Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) The Blue Sharks " These Things Will Keep Me Loving You " The first copy I have seen in 31 years has surfaced on eBay ( item # 330284475318 ) , located somewhere in Italy , with the auction / sales blurb as follows ........ THESE THINGS WILL KEEP ME LOVING YOU / THE BANNER MAN ... 7-inch, 45rpm single by BLUE SHARKS. Original Italian pressing on GRAN PRIX Label (CPI 7013). No date info but circa late '60s. Mega rare northern soul single that was only ever released in Italy. The record was originally given away as a freebie by the Italian supermarket chain, UPIM. The big side for collectors and DJs is an ultra-obscure cover version of THESE THINGS WILL KEEP ME LOVING YOU, originally by the Motown girl group, The Velvelettes. Top production obviously influenced by the Phil Spector Wall Of Sound (Grand Prix was a cream Italian Library label) featuring powerful vocal harmony / big strings and orchestrations. This is the rarest Northern Soul 45 from Italy (rarer than Wil Collins et al). A top tip for 2007 on the Soulsource forum message board and recently charted again in the last couple of months. Comped by Goldmine (Northern Soul Satisfaction CD) too. Very rare 45!!! Bidding currently stands as of 06.00 AM today , 12th November at $461.00 USD : the auction ends on November 16th . When records are listed has being rare , The BS is one of those records ....... Malc Burton Edited November 12, 2008 by Malc Burton
boba Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 this has been on ebay a few times, you can even find 4 copies in popsike The Blue Sharks " These Things Will Keep Me Loving You " The first copy I have seen in 31 years has surfaced on eBay ( item # 330284475318 ) , located somewhere in Italy , with the auction / sales blurb as follows ........ THESE THINGS WILL KEEP ME LOVING YOU / THE BANNER MAN ... 7-inch, 45rpm single by BLUE SHARKS. Original Italian pressing on GRAN PRIX Label (CPI 7013). No date info but circa late '60s. Mega rare northern soul single that was only ever released in Italy. The record was originally given away as a freebie by the Italian supermarket chain, UPIM. The big side for collectors and DJs is an ultra-obscure cover version of THESE THINGS WILL KEEP ME LOVING YOU, originally by the Motown girl group, The Velvelettes. Top production obviously influenced by the Phil Spector Wall Of Sound (Grand Prix was a cream Italian Library label) featuring powerful vocal harmony / big strings and orchestrations. This is the rarest Northern Soul 45 from Italy (rarer than Wil Collins et al). A top tip for 2007 on the Soulsource forum message board and recently charted again in the last couple of months. Comped by Goldmine (Northern Soul Satisfaction CD) too. Very rare 45!!! Bidding currently stands as of 06.00 AM today , 12th November at $461.00 USD : the auction ends on November 16th . When records are listed has being rare , The BS is one of those records ....... Malc Burton
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 this has been on ebay a few times, you can even find 4 copies in popsike I never think to check Popsike - which I should - Bob ......... The last copy I saw , as I state , was 31 years ago : So with the copy on eBay plus the four on Popsike . would you class it as being rare now ? Malc Burton
boba Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I never think to check Popsike - which I should - Bob ......... The last copy I saw , as I state , was 31 years ago : So with the copy on eBay plus the four on Popsike . would you class it as being rare now ? Malc Burton clearly it's rare, everything goes through ebay, including some very rare records. i don't know how rare it actually is, probably someone in italy could answer better though.
Bigsoulman Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 It may be rare but it doesn't even come close to the original version, can't understand why anyone would want pay silly money for this tbh Lenny
Trev Thomas Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 this record is a classic case of the emporers new clothes, it doesnt even come close to the velvelettes
Peter99 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I Like it. Last time I said that on here I got slated! Incoming...........................
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 It may be rare but it doesn't even come close to the original version, can't understand why anyone would want pay silly money for this tbh Lenny I thought N'soul fans would rather go for something rare and different and bin the motown version as too nice and polished and available I'm a N'soul fan.
funkyfeet Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I thought N'soul fans would rather go for something rare and different and bin the motown version as too nice and polished and available I'm a N'soul fan. Why would you want to bin quality
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Why would you want to bin quality Ok you got me there,i'll stick it with me pop stuff
Peter99 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I thought N'soul fans would rather go for something rare and different and bin the motown version as too nice and polished and available I'm a N'soul fan. Good lad Ken. You fookin tell em pal.
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Good lad Ken. You fookin tell em pal. Yep i'll stick mine in me sales box let someone else listen to quality,too much of it about these days....i'm into iffy production stompin garage mentality stuff first Pete. anybody with none quality stompin' iffy production garage mental stuff they dont like,send em' me. Bit of Blue Sharks trivia for you; Paul Merrit off the cooking programs owns one with different label design (checkered flag). Edited November 12, 2008 by ken
Kev Moore Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I thought N'soul fans would rather go for something rare and different and bin the motown version as too nice and polished and available I'm a N'soul fan. Any spare copies of the Mrs Miller album yet Ken? Surely that fits the bill! Stompin in places..... found in a garage........ and not at all polished! Kev
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Any spare copies of the Mrs Miller album yet Ken? Surely that fits the bill! Stompin in places..... found in a garage........ and not at all polished! Kev Got a local issue with some different stuff on,stompers !! will i be playin' em' out......NO !!
paultp Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 It may be rare but it doesn't even come close to the original version, can't understand why anyone would want pay silly money for this tbh Lenny Agree with you on this, I understand that people want to collect rare records but buying this to play out is stretching the rare soul point IMHO. Same with playing the rare "Tams - Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" - It's still the Tams Hey Girl Don't Bother Me. Maybe I don't geddit.
Kev Moore Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Got a local issue with some different stuff on,stompers !! will i be playin' em' out......NO !! Come on Ken. Why keep the world in the dark?
Ted Massey Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) this record is a classic case of the emporers new clothes, it doesnt even come close to the velvelettes same goes for that Uptight cover and Nowhere to run imo Edited November 12, 2008 by Tedsoul
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 All the versions of this record are all very close to the original, I am sure after a few shandys I wouldn't tell the difference.
Harry Crosby Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Probably wrong here but wasn`t this an old NEV WHERRY play? [excuse the spelling]
Peter99 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Probably wrong here but wasn`t this an old NEV WHERRY play? [excuse the spelling] I think that is correct Harry.
Harry Crosby Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I think that is correct Harry. Cheers pete, don`t know where the fook that came from must have been stored in the memory banks good dj in his time NEV
macca Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I associate it with Soul Sam. A very, very big record in 1977. The last tiem I heard it was at the !00 Club two years, played by Kenny Burrell. It brings back fond memories for me, fetuccini Soul or not.
Peter99 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Cheers pete, don`t know where the fook that came from must have been stored in the memory banks good dj in his time NEV He was indeed a good DJ Harry. Used to play some wicked stuff.
Peter99 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I associate it with Soul Sam. A very, very big record in 1977. The last tiem I heard it was at the !00 Club two years, played by Kenny Burrell. It brings back fond memories for me, fetuccini Soul or not. It is a record that is associated with Sam too.
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Its a brilliant version and a lot of you guys dont like to admit it!!........IMHO I payed $130 a few years ago and sold it on later for CONSIDERABLY more, I think Kenny got my copy. Talking to Sam about the one he had, he got it from a radio DJ in the 70`s/80`s (im shit wi names ) He always kicked himself for parting with it but I seem to think he aquired another copy recently.Its a B side, the flip is a version of Blue Minks Banner man....which is propper shite Its very rare but I dont think its as rare as its made out, apparently there are quite a few NS DJ`s in Italy with it so im told. Didnt know it had another label. Edited November 12, 2008 by Guest
Peter99 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Its a brilliant version and a lot of you guys dont like to admit it!!........IMHO I payed $130 a few years ago and sold it on later for CONSIDERABLY more, I think Kenny got my copy. Talking to Sam about the one he had, he got it from a radio DJ in the 70`s/80`s (im shit wi names ) He always kicked himself for parting with it but I seem to think he aquired another copy recently.Its a B side, the flip is a version of Blue Minks Banner man....which is propper shite Its very rare but I dont think its as rare as its made out, apparently there are quite a few NS DJ`s in Italy with it so im told. Didnt know it had another label. I think Sam got his copy back from someone in Italy cos he wanted it for the last Cleethorpes Winter Garden's do. Packed the dance floor.
Harry Crosby Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Its a brilliant version and a lot of you guys dont like to admit it!!........IMHO I payed $130 a few years ago and sold it on later for CONSIDERABLY more, I think Kenny got my copy. Talking to Sam about the one he had, he got it from a radio DJ in the 70`s/80`s (im shit wi names ) He always kicked himself for parting with it but I seem to think he aquired another copy recently.Its a B side, the flip is a version of Blue Minks Banner man....which is propper shite Its very rare but I dont think its as rare as its made out, apparently there are quite a few NS DJ`s in Italy with it so im told. Didnt know it had another label. Yeh there is another label design as ken rightly says, with two checkered flags
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I think Sam got his copy back from someone in Italy cos he wanted it for the last Cleethorpes Winter Garden's do. Packed the dance floor. I wonder why?
Andybellwood Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Probably wrong here but wasn`t this an old NEV WHERRY play? [excuse the spelling] also a York Soul Club (www.yorksoulclub.com) play from John Parker
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 sound clip anyone? blue_sharks___these_things_will_keep_me_loving_you.MP3
Harry Crosby Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 also a York Soul Club (www.yorksoulclub.com) play from John Parker yeh i was talking about must be thirty years ago nearly, when i first heard it
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Its a brilliant version and a lot of you guys dont like to admit it!!........IMHO I payed $130 a few years ago and sold it on later for CONSIDERABLY more, I think Kenny got my copy. Talking to Sam about the one he had, he got it from a radio DJ in the 70`s/80`s (im shit wi names ) He always kicked himself for parting with it but I seem to think he aquired another copy recently.Its a B side, the flip is a version of Blue Minks Banner man....which is propper shite Its very rare but I dont think its as rare as its made out, apparently there are quite a few NS DJ`s in Italy with it so im told. Didnt know it had another label. Same label just different design............i still think its the same as the version on Plexiem top hits Lp,they,re full of covers all pretty good aswell.......Allen Caddy band and singers i think and there a version of "banner man" on em' aswell,just a theory at the mo' but "Blue Sharks" is a 7ts record same as Alan Caddy and bunch what include singers Like Penny North other cool birds names like her in his line up. Edited November 12, 2008 by ken
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) I associate it with Soul Sam. A very, very big record in 1977. The last tiem I heard it was at the !00 Club two years, played by Kenny Burrell. It brings back fond memories for me, fetuccini Soul or not. I also associated the record with Sam : he first aired it - to my knowledge - at Cleethorpes , but " broke " it at Wakefield Unity , at the all - nighters ( which I promoted ) in 1977 - that was the last time I saw a copy , 31 years ago as I stated in my original post this morning ........ Malc Burton Edited November 12, 2008 by Malc Burton
Harry Crosby Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I also associated the record with Sam : he first aired it - to my knowledge - at Cleethorpes , but " broke " it at Wakefield Unity , at the all - nighters ( which I promoted ) in 1977 - that was the last time I saw a copy , 31 years ago as I stated in my original post this morning ........ Malc Burton probably right malc, just got nev wherry, stuck in my head for some reason, it was about 77/78 when i heard it, never did cleethorpes so may well have been wakefield unity, may have been st mary`s at selby sam used to do a lot over there at one point, DAMN THIS MEMORY!!!
bri pinch Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) GOTTA TAKE THIS AT FACE VALUE, PERSONALLY I THINK IT,S A CREDITABLE RETREAD OF A VERY GOOD SONG/RECORD, I LIKE IT. THINK IT WAS RELEASED IN 1971 COS THATS WHEN BANNER MAN AND TTWKMLY WERE IN'T CHARTS RIGHT. BRI PINCH. Edited November 12, 2008 by bri pinch
Trev Thomas Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 does anybody know anything about the blue sharks ? were they an italian group ? also is the version of "these things" on the motown chartbusters album (the one with the big spider / bug fellow on the cover) a different take with different words to the 45 release ?
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 does anybody know anything about the blue sharks ? were they an italian group ? also is the version of "these things" on the motown chartbusters album (the one with the big spider / bug fellow on the cover) a different take with different words to the 45 release ? Where they fukc !!
Trev Thomas Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Where they fukc !! glad that amused you ken, so, i'm assuming youve got some information regarding the nationality & identity of the group, do tell, dont keep it to yourself
paultp Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 sound clip anyone? Just play the velvelettes and imagine white people singing it badly
John Al Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 also a York Soul Club (www.yorksoulclub.com) play from John Parker .....and also played at Stolen Hours, Ramsgate (Stolen Hours, Ramsgate) - by me. Goes down a treat every time.
MarkWhiteley Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 .....and also played at Stolen Hours, Ramsgate (Stolen Hours, Ramsgate) - by me. Goes down a treat every time. First Aired by Sam 1976 Winter Gardens Cleethorpes
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 glad that amused you ken, so, i'm assuming youve got some information regarding the nationality & identity of the group, do tell, dont keep it to yourself Read the thread,got my suspisions no proof tho'.........you can think what you like about em' even think they're funny,go head fill yer' boots.
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 also is the version of "these things" on the motown chartbusters album (the one with the big spider / bug fellow on the cover) a different take with different words to the 45 release ? Yes, it was cut on the 1st release of CB volume 6....they cut the wrong version by mistake, a slightly different cut also.... the CD version has the correct words to it and probably later releases of the (vinyl) album........my mate had his copy for 30 odd years and never played the track, he had no idea about the different take till I played mine out a while back, you do get some very strange looks from the floor
Mick Holdsworth Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 does anybody know anything about the blue sharks ? were they an italian group ? Apparently they were part Italian and part Swiss Cheers Mick Holdsworth https://northern-soul-records.com https://motownsound.co.uk
Trev Thomas Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) Read the thread,got my suspisions no proof tho'.........you can think what you like about em' even think they're funny,go head fill yer' boots. right, im with you now, the plexium album by the mike morton congragation, just phoned my mate who's got a copy of the album, he says its exactly the same as the blue sharks , also the alan caddy that you mentioned was involved in making those buget cover version records that you used to get in supermarkets in the 60s & 70s, which ties in with the italian supermarket promotion that was mentioned earlier Edited November 12, 2008 by soulman1964
Mick Holdsworth Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Yes, it was cut on the 1st release of CB volume 6....they cut the wrong version by mistake, a slightly different cut also.... the CD version has the correct words to it and probably later releases of the (vinyl) album........my mate had his copy for 30 odd years and never played the track, he had no idea about the different take till I played mine out a while back, you do get some very strange looks from the floor Don't think it was a mistake - If you play the Smokey / Miracles track "Come 'Round Here" from the same LP, that is also a different take - Quite a few Motown LPs had different takes to the 45, Jimmy Mack / at least two Jackson 5 tracks, probably others too Cheers Mick Holdsworth https://northern-soul-records.com https://motownsound.co.uk
Guest Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 right, im with you now, the plexium album by the mike morton congragation, just phoned my mate who's got a copy of the album, he says its exactly the same as the blue sharks And they do banner man,might be different lp but same cover different colour be good to compare them too !.
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