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[Dave]

  At the end of the day it's all down to personal choice and preference    There's always summat I don't like played at venues, I know though there will soon be something I do like played 

It's still got no place in a Northern Room of mine

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OK Chalky....so not in your Northern room.....but how about the East wing?

As for knowing there will something played that you do like.....I had to wait an hour and half last night

[Mace]

Not another closet R&B fan Mace     

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You're just bringing ya mates in to back you up methinks..

[Chalky]

OK Chalky....so not in your Northern room.....but how about the East wing?

As for knowing there will something played that you do like.....I had to wait an hour and half last night    

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East Wing will be fine...as long as I'm not in it

Hour and half where did you go....

[Chalky]

You're just bringing ya mates in to back you up methinks..  

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rumbled

[Guest dundeedavie]

now as someone who is known to like r'n'b ( well love it really) my opinion on the anabelle caeser is i don't like it ...not even a little bit ... it's plain and ordinary in my opinion

Davie

[Mace]

rumbled   

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[Mace]

now as  someone who is known to like r'n'b ( well love it really) my opinion on the anabelle caeser is i don't like it ...not even a little bit ... it's plain and ordinary in my opinion

Davie

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Davie...you're not big mates with Chalky are ya...

[Mace]

now as  someone who is known to like r'n'b ( well love it really) my opinion on the anabelle caeser is i don't like it ...not even a little bit ... it's plain and ordinary in my opinion

Davie

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Do have a confession though - first time I heard it (through a sound burger) I was not over impressed to say the least.....next time was in a club and it blew me socks off.....hence the 12 months from now remark.

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[Guest NASHEE]

now as  someone who is known to like r'n'b ( well love it really) my opinion on the anabelle caeser is i don't like it ...not even a little bit ... it's plain and ordinary in my opinion

Davie

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didnt any of the others float yer boat dave?

[Dave]

Good evening Dave 

Err ok, I suppose I meant crossed over in a major way a la Big Daddy Rogers etc... seems to me the R&B tunes that have gone big in Northern rooms are the ones with something a bit different from the normal R&B, not quite sure what but they seem to be more 'accessible' to the majority of the Northern crowd... whereas often DJs trying to introduce the earlier, heavier sounds provoke grumbling 

As for "no place".. that's up to the dancefloor/majority to decide... 

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I think the reason only "bit different" tracks have crossed over is that these are the ones singled out by the Northern DJs for novelty value

On the rare occassions I have heard a true R&B collector in a main room BDR, James Duncan, Lou Lowton etc are not top of the playlist.

[Dave]

East Wing will be fine...as long as I'm not in it 

Hour and half where did you go....

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Leicester!!!

[Dave]

Do have a confession though - first time I heard it (through a sound burger) I was not over impressed to say the least.....next time was in a club and it blew me socks off.....hence the 12 months from now remark.

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I take it this is one you are playing regularly at the moment then, mate?

[Mace]

I think the reason only "bit different" tracks have crossed over is that these are the ones singled out by the Northern DJs for novelty value

On the rare occassions I have heard a true R&B collector in a main room BDR, James Duncan, Lou Lowton etc are not top of the playlist.

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Truth is that when these big R&B tunes become accepted by the Northern crowd, they become instantly adopted and defended by the same token.

Big Daddy Rogers, Cookie Jackson, 5 Royales etc seem to suffer the fate of being dropped by the R&B scene cus they have been accepted by the Northern Scene .....shame really, cus they are great tunes.

(James Duncan and Lou Lawton are terrible records IMHO.)

[Mace]

I take it this is one you are playing regularly at the moment then, mate?

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Nearly worn me way through to the flipside mate....

[Guest rachel]

(James Duncan and Lou Lawton are terrible records IMHO.)

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Did I mention... nursery rhyme lyrics are bad

[Chalky]

Truth is that when these big R&B tunes become accepted by the Northern crowd, they become instantly adopted and defended by the same token.

Big Daddy Rogers, Cookie Jackson, 5 Royales etc seem to suffer the fate of being dropped by the R&B scene cus they have been accepted by the Northern Scene .....shame really, cus they are great tunes.

(James Duncan and Lou Lawton are terrible records IMHO.)

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Think to be perfectly honest some of those mentioned above also different in style to records like Little Annie. R&B yes (it's all R&B at the end of the day, just us who pigeon hole it) but they aren't as low down and dirty

[Mace]

Did I mention... nursery rhyme lyrics are bad 

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Spot on girl.......

[Guest dundeedavie]

didnt any of the others float yer boat dave?

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i haven't got to them yet miss popcorn

Davie

[Chalky]

Truth is that when these big R&B tunes become accepted by the Northern crowd, they become instantly adopted and defended by the same token.

Big Daddy Rogers, Cookie Jackson, 5 Royales etc seem to suffer the fate of being dropped by the R&B scene cus they have been accepted by the Northern Scene .....shame really, cus they are great tunes.

(James Duncan and Lou Lawton are terrible records IMHO.)

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Nick Nack Paddy Whack give the dog a bone...I'd give the dog this f****** record to chew

[Dave]

Did I mention... nursery rhyme lyrics are bad 

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Looks like we all agree on that one then.....any dissenters?

(Though to be fair ....I love Big Bad Wolf )

[Guest NASHEE]

Nearly worn me way through to the flipside mate....

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Cant wait until it's completely knackered...i can get some airings out of mine

[Guest dundeedavie]

Spot on girl.......

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i disagree ......looking for my pig - joe tex is a cracking tune

Davie

[Guest NASHEE]

i haven't got to them yet miss popcorn

Davie

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hi Dave

See post 60 & 91

maybe not everyones cup of tea....to say the least

[Mace]

Think to be perfectly honest some of those mentioned above also different in style to records like Little Annie.  R&B yes (it's all R&B at the end of the day, just us who pigeon hole it) but they aren't as low down and dirty 

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So singing about taking you down to the woodshed for a piece of jellyroll ain't low down and dirty.....

Cookie Jackson 'Try love' also falls into low down and dirty in my books.

It is all R&B at the end of the day (or shall we go into chain gang / gospel / tribal chant blah blah blah....... )...just different levels of acceptance....

Been a good discussion Chalky, and a clean fight...

I'll get ya a pint at Stafford Reunion and have ya dancing to Little Annie by Xmas...

Catch ya all later,

Mace.

[Guest NASHEE]

Looks like we all agree on that one then.....any dissenters?

(Though to be fair ....I love Big Bad Wolf )

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Just cant help it...I love "Little Boy Blue"

[Guest dundeedavie]

Just cant help it...I love "Little Boy Blue"

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the only one that grabbed me on first listen was harvey lantz - little boy blue ...niiiice

Davie

[Guest rachel]

Most concerning thing about this conversation has been Mace's obsession with getting low down and dirty (and trying to get us all to do the same)!

[Chalky]

So singing about taking you down to the woodshed for a piece of jellyroll ain't low down and dirty.....

Cookie Jackson 'Try love' also falls into low down and dirty in my books.

It is all R&B at the end of the day (or shall we go into chain gang / gospel / tribal chant blah blah blah....... )...just different levels of acceptance....

Been a good discussion Chalky, and a clean fight...

I'll get ya a pint at Stafford Reunion and have ya dancing to Little Annie by Xmas...

Catch ya all later,

Mace.

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I ws thinking more the likes of "Do You Still Love Me"

Enjoyed it Mace, been a pleasure and look forward to the pint on Saturday

[Mace]

Most concerning thing about this conversation has been Mace's obsession with getting low down and dirty (and trying to get us all to do the same)!   

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Bugger, now I've been rumbled

[Mace]

...actually, thinking about it, Chalky started the low down and dirty talk.....

[Mace]

Ah Billy.....since you started the ball rolling with this record.....

[grant]

Take it you don't like it then Grant......

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u could say that mate - insult to rock n roll!

[Guest rachel]

...actually, thinking about it, Chalky started the low down and dirty talk.....

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Mmm good point

You carried it on with such enthusiasm though

[Mace]

Mmm good point 

You carried it on with such enthusiasm though   

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Can't help meself....

[Dave]

Just cant help it...I love "Little Boy Blue"

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You can't, can you?

Fair shout though

[Mace]

u could say that mate - insult to rock n roll!

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Still starting to fill floors at Northern dos though.....all the same......

We all have personal tastes Grant, (thank f*ck or it would be a boring scene), and this record will never appeal to the majority of soulies.......it does however, have a certain appeal to so many of them or this discussion would not arise in the first place.

[Soulfool]

Love to read playlists (sad but true!) and would love to read ANY DJ's current top 10 plays

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Back to the original topic, my first DJ stint for almost a year was at the Dublin Alldayer so here's my top 10 plays:

If eVER

[Soulfool]

Love to read playlists (sad but true!) and would love to read ANY DJ's current top 10 plays

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Back to the original topic, my first DJ stint for almost a year was at the Dublin Alldayer on Saturday so here are my top 10 plays:

Little Dooley - If Ever I Needed You (Koko)

Chuck Corby - I Need Your Love (Fee Bee)

The Shepards - Little Girl Lost (ABC)

Clifford Binns - It Was Only Yesterday (Theoda)

The Rotations - Trying To Make You My Own (Mala)

Rose Brooks - I'm Moanin' (Soul City)

Choice Of Colour - Your Love (APT)

Tommy Youngblood - Hello Darling (Chattahoochee)

Curtis Lee - Is She In Your Town (Mira)

The Intensions - I Love You (Blue Light)

A Happy Hoop

[Guest Dan]

Leicester!!!

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have to say dave, having posted in the events section saying leicester was a great night and recommending it, i agree with you - the music on saturday was not great.

i thought hammie was excellent early on and i think it was andy riley who played some nice tunes in the small room (commands on dynamic is one well-known but not worn-out track which springs to mind) but others were not really on form

eddie bishop's 'call me' was probably the biggest record of the night in terms of dance floor reaction which was a bit odd

left halfway through kenny burrell so didn't hear mick h

not the usual excellent level though still way ahead of many other nights

great venue and marston's pedigree which is probably the finest pint on earth

anyway, back to the top 10s

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Big Daddy Rogers, Cookie Jackson, 5 Royales etc seem to suffer the fate of being dropped by the R&B scene cus they have been accepted by the Northern Scene .....shame really, cus they are great tunes.

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No they're not Mace

Chalky is right

[Dave]

have to say dave, having posted in the events section saying leicester was a great night and recommending it, i agree with you - the music on saturday was not great.

i thought hammie was excellent early on and i think it was andy riley who played some nice tunes in the small room (commands on dynamic is one well-known but not worn-out track which springs to mind) but others were not really on form

eddie bishop's 'call me' was probably the biggest record of the night in terms of dance floor reaction which was a bit odd

left halfway through kenny burrell so didn't hear mick h

not the usual excellent level though still way ahead of many other nights

great venue and marston's pedigree which is probably the finest pint on earth

anyway, back to the top 10s

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Hi Dan,

I didn't get there till about 9.30 so missed Andy (very under-rated) and Hammie's early sets.

I heard some good music in the main room till 10.00 when the rank oldies started.

Went into the small room and caught half an hour of Mick and Kenny Burrell double decking with some unusual records.....so far, so good!

After that in the second room it was Hammie with oldies, as billed, and Lee Vowles playing "modern", which turned out to be 70s oldies, several of which he interrupted with the microphone.

I wandered into the main room a few times to hear motown and more tired oldies, some repeated.

I did stick it out until Mick came on at 12.00 and his set was of the usual high standard, so at least it finished on a high!

For the second time running this event has been let down IMHO by a big name guest playing safe! :angry:

I hope none of my entrance money was used to pay Ken Burrell

A good atmosphere, and better night than some but I heard a better sustained quality of music at Wellingborough on Friday.

As you say, back to Little Annie

Dave

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Funnily enough i was talking to Lee yesterday and he commented on how difficult it was to play anything that wasn't a guaranteed floor filler on the night as the dancers left the floor in droves if they weren't 100% familiar with it, so i don't know that it is entirely fair to give the DJ's stick.

[Dave]

Funnily enough i was talking to Lee yesterday and he commented on how difficult it was to play anything that wasn't a guaranteed floor filler on the night as the dancers left the floor in droves if they weren't 100% familiar with it, so i don't know that it is entirely fair to give the DJ's stick.

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Funnily enough I wasn't intending to "give him stick"....just recounting what I heard.

Mick kept the floor full for the last hour with quite a lot of records that would be mainly familiar to regular nighter-goers and the TBI crowd.

I spoke to quite a few friends WHO WERE THERE and their thoughts were similar to mine.

Dave

[Guest Dan]

i think that's a fair comment john

it was a bit like the parting of the red sea at times

it is hard for djs esp on a night where the crowd was a bit unusual maybe

having said that, i was more saying that from my own P-O-V (ie not specifically about the dancefloor) that it wasn't that hot

some of the lesser-known stuff that was played wasn't that great IMO (can't remember specific tracks, just a feeling)

re lee and ally, i'm not sure that double decking works that well - why not do a full spot and let your own stuff flow?

also think that the two room policy might be worth looking at because you get similar sounds ie a bit of everything in both which maybe defeats the object a bit. maybe would be better to have the small room as out and out newies/lesser-knowns or r&b or modern

having said all that, i still think the orange is an excellent night with friendly punters and promoters, lots of good beer and usually great music/atmosphere

[Mace]

No they're not Mace 

Chalky is right 

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Actually Trouty, Chalky comments were not aimed at Big Daddy Rogers, Cookie Jackson and the like...but at the Anna Belle Caesar track......please try keep up if you wanna join in....

[grant]

no matter how much i hate modern soul...or wishy washy type northern.....i never call them Crap !!!!!!

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i do ! believe in speak your mind - could have used a worse description but thought i'd keep it clean!!

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Actually Trouty, Chalky comments were not aimed at Big Daddy Rogers, Cookie Jackson and the like...but at the Anna Belle Caesar track......please try keep up if you wanna join in....      

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You sure Mace?? Can't exactly see Chalky shaking a tail feather to "I'm a big man" of course i could be wrong but i doubt it

and i wasn't really joining in just heckling from the back

[Mace]

You sure Mace?? Can't exactly see Chalky shaking a tail feather to "I'm a big man"  of course i could be wrong but i doubt it 

and i wasn't really joining in just heckling from the back     

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Wasn't saying that he was applauding those records, just that his remarks (as muffled as they were from inside that closet ) were aimed at Anna Belle Caesar.............although he actually voiced support for a Cookie Jackson track, but doubt myself that any of his tail feathers were being shook, or even twitched, at the time (mind you, it is pretty dark in afformentioned closet, so he could have been doing the Watusi for all we know )

Now please return to the back, where your heckling can only be defined as mumbling rant...

[Chalky]

Wasn't saying that he was applauding those records, just that his remarks (as muffled as they were from inside that closet  ) were aimed at Anna Belle Caesar.............although he actually voiced support for a Cookie Jackson track, but doubt myself that any of his tail feathers were being shook, or even twitched, at the time (mind you, it is pretty dark in afformentioned closet, so he could have been doing the Watusi for all we know  )

Now please return to the back, where your heckling can only be defined as mumbling rant...  

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Let me out.....let me out........

[Mace]

Let me out.....let me out........    

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Not till we see those tail feathers shaking away mate....

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