Cool Or Fool

[Guest Bicks]

Reading through many of the posts on here it's clear that despite my love for Northern Soul I have really only scratched the surface of the good stuff that's out there.

To this end I was wondering how well known does a track have to be to make you clear the dance floor?

For example if the DJ put on Out on the Floor would you dance? What about The Snake? I picked these two as they are probably the best known tracks of all, but is it still cool to dance to them?

What about The Night? Great track but...big name singer, chart hit...still cool?

Personally I don't care I'll dance to anything, even better if I actually know the song, which is why I liked the Wigan Reunion nights.

I've seen people booing DJ's at events because they don't agree with their song choices, so is it good to dance to 'the hits' of Northern Soul or does the record need to have been rescued from a collapsed secret nuclear bunker on the outskirts of Detroit before you'll move those feet?

[ZapatootheTiger]

...or does the record need to have been rescued from a collapsed secret nuclear bunker on the outskirts of Detroit before you'll move those feet?

[Zed1]

Reading through many of the posts on here

Your First mistake..... sadly!.

They are YOUR ears, if you like a record then dance to it, don't let other peoples preducaces spoil your enjoyment of the music...... no matter WHAT it is

In some ways we should all envy you as you don't have 30+ years of politics and crap clouding your judgement of a track, some played out oldie thats hated by the 'purists' can sound fantastic to 'fresh' ears...

[wolfie66]

Your First mistake..... sadly!.

They are YOUR ears, if you like a record then dance to it, don't let other peoples preducaces spoil your enjoyment of the music...... no matter WHAT it is

In some ways we should all envy you as you don't have 30+ years of politics and crap clouding your judgement of a track, some played out oldie thats hated by the 'purists' can sound fantastic to 'fresh' ears...

Yep, totally agree with this - I've just done a couple of CD's for people who 'got' into the sound because of The Snake & Fortune Teller. If it gets new blood/youngsters into the scene does it matter how well known the tunes?

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[barney]

They are YOUR ears, if you like a record then dance to it, don't let other peoples preducaces spoil your enjoyment of the music...... no matter WHAT it is

In some ways we should all envy you as you don't have 30+ years of politics and crap clouding your judgement of a track, some played out oldie thats hated by the 'purists' can sound fantastic to 'fresh' ears...

[Prophonics 2029]

Bood for playing bad records where was this.

Edited November 2, 2008 by Prophonics 2029

[barney]

there is no such thing as a bad record ,it,s just that some are better than others

[Guest Bicks]

Bood for playing bad records where was this.

I didn't say 'bad records', just their choice of records. And incidently it was Soul Sam at Brighouse who I thought did a pretty good set.

He was playing some seventies stuff, but I should point out that the dance floor was packed so it didn't turn everybody off, and furthermore he really ripped it up at the end of his set.....so good on him.

[Guest gordon russell]

there is no such thing as a bad record ,it,s just that some are better than others

out on the floor and the snake are fine tunes,the first l used to listen to as a 13/14 year old at the youth club and the lyrics to the snake are very good when you listen to em .Yes like what ya like and dance to what ya want,thats what it's all about,but don't get stuck just listening to this stuff and leaving other stuff behind

[Guest Bearsy]

Bood for playing bad records where was this.

last time you DJd Tony

[Guest Matt Male]

I'd never not dance just because something is popular or overplayed. That would be stupid. There can't be anyone on here who wouldn't dance to a record they like just because it's overplayed.

The reason why people get annoyed with DJs and promoters is when venues are billed as something they are not. You go somewhere expecting to hear something different or unknown but it's the same old stuff, nothing at all to do with the quality of the music but everything to do with the imagination of the DJs.

I heard Chuck Jackson - I Got The Need out the other week, classic oldie that i could happily dance to all night and there are thousands of others, but i wouldn't want to hear the same records every time i went out.

[Guest aintgotit]

it matters not a toss mate whether others dance or not .if you hear it enjoy it,do what you want to it,be guided by no one elses reaction..example, whenever i hear "the velvettes ,im gonna find me somebody, i,ll dance to it,It reminds me of rob stoff so i have dance for rob.i,ve not seen him for 0ver 25 years .i suppose some ,ll have heard it so many times that it sounds a bit worn out to them.But if the same folk sneer or turn their nose up at others enjoyment..F*** em i say,,ill dance if and when i want for the pleasure of it.Have a dance and imagine theres no F****r else there.Just mind me corns

[Guest Bearsy]

Sod all this about not dancing to an over played banged out oldie thats been heard a million times before surely the big issue has to be when a bloody good tune thats underplayed or unknown gets played and people moan cos they dont know it when was the first time you hear the tune that does it for you now, i cant go out for the night and expect to like every tune played but i want to hear something old something new and a dj enjoying himself behind the decks trying to entertain and not just being a jukebox clone for the few that will dance to anything, thats my opinion and i know its not the same as everyone elses but if you ate your favourite dinner every day how long would it be before you couldnt even think of that meal again

keep them ears open and just enjoy the bloody music wether you know it cos its overplayed or not

[Guest Matt Male]

Sod all this about not dancing to an over played banged out oldie thats been heard a million times before surely the big issue has to be when a bloody good tune thats underplayed or unknown gets played and people moan cos they dont know it

Spot on Bearsy, that's the real problem. Unfortunately there are too many people who do only want to hear the same records week in week out, they were probably the people booing Soul Sam, not the people who don't like overplayed oldies. They are the same tossers who come up and say 'play some northern mate' and 'have you got anything a bit more commercial' after you've just played Sharon Jones

[Guest Bearsy]

Spot on Bearsy, that's the real problem. Unfortunately there are too many people who do only want to hear the same records week in week out, they were probably the people booing Soul Sam, not the people who don't like overplayed oldies. They are the same tossers who come up and say 'play some northern mate' and 'have you got anything a bit more commercial' after you've just played Sharon Jones

you mean the same people that go out once every couple of months and come up and ask you to play duffy

I did a set in Bournemouth earlier in the year and got asked by a woman to play Duffy and i said i dont know that tune and she said yeah you must do its No-1 in the charts so i said in that case go outside to your car and turn the radio on its being played every 10 minutes on there and i nearly got a clip around the ear for my cheekyness

[Prophonics 2029]

last time you DJd Tony

You wait mate next time I am let out I will play you some stuff that will make your toes curl (my lumber jack songs) clear the floor, I will clear bloody the street and a surrounding boroughs.

There is a time and place for every record, if you surprise people with the likes of The Snake, Fortune Teller they can go down a storm.

[Guest Bearsy]

You wait mate next time I am let out I will play you some stuff that will make your toes curl (my lumber jack songs) clear the floor, I will clear bloody the street and a surrounding boroughs.

There is a time and place for every record, if you surprise people with the likes of The Snake, Fortune Teller they can go down a storm.

saying that though Paul MaKay played Skiing in the snow at the last Bisley and not only did the dance floor empty ive never seen so many non smokers standing outside in the rain at any one time and all Paul was doing was trying to drop a classic oldie in for a suprise so it dont always work even at the most obvious of venues

[Guest aintgotit]

im curious as to who is considered to be the arbiter of good taste and judgement over whats cool and whether if someone gets up to express themselves or remains seated the entire night should that be considered a judgement on anything .we have a free will and the means communicate it whether its booing or dancing.If your still there when the lights go on and feel you haven,t enjoyed what you heard saw or felt then i suppose you learned something.

[good angel]

Spot on Bearsy, that's the real problem. Unfortunately there are too many people who do only want to hear the same records week in week out, they were probably the people booing Soul Sam, not the people who don't like overplayed oldies. They are the same tossers who come up and say 'play some northern mate' and 'have you got anything a bit more commercial' after you've just played Sharon Jones

Are these the same people that dress in a black vest, wide black bags held up with a white belt and a beer towel hanging from the very same belt,it reminds me of the old rock and rollers.

Kev

[Guest Beeks]

What sort of name is Bicks...that's just daft

[sister dawn]

What sort of name is Bicks...that's just daft

have to be careful now and make sure I stick me specks on now theres two of you with a similar name

[Guest Beeks]

have to be careful now and make sure I stick me specks on now theres two of you with a similar name

Nah...there's only one me...thank fook you all say

[stomper45]

Reading through many of the posts on here it's clear that despite my love for Northern Soul I have really only scratched the surface of the good stuff that's out there.

To this end I was wondering how well known does a track have to be to make you clear the dance floor?

For example if the DJ put on Out on the Floor would you dance? What about The Snake? I picked these two as they are probably the best known tracks of all, but is it still cool to dance to them?

What about The Night? Great track but...big name singer, chart hit...still cool?

Personally I don't care I'll dance to anything, even better if I actually know the song, which is why I liked the Wigan Reunion nights.

I've seen people booing DJ's at events because they don't agree with their song choices, so is it good to dance to 'the hits' of Northern Soul or does the record need to have been rescued from a collapsed secret nuclear bunker on the outskirts of Detroit before you'll move those feet?

remember the first time you heard the snake, was that equalled by the 380th time?? Maybe depends on state of body or mind but the more i hear a tune the less likely to get on the dancefloor, some think its a rare soul scene.

[SteveM]

have to be careful now and make sure I stick me specks on now theres two of you with a similar name

Really ?

[sister dawn]

Really ?

lol

[Guest]

I'd never not dance just because something is popular or overplayed. That would be stupid. There can't be anyone on here who wouldn't dance to a record they like just because it's overplayed.

The reason why people get annoyed with DJs and promoters is when venues are billed as something they are not. You go somewhere expecting to hear something different or unknown but it's the same old stuff, nothing at all to do with the quality of the music but everything to do with the imagination of the DJs.

I heard Chuck Jackson - I Got The Need out the other week, classic oldie that i could happily dance to all night and there are thousands of others, but i wouldn't want to hear the same records every time i went out.

Agree Matt, I could think of loads of tunes I still like which fall into ( in my opinion) "overplayed" category...but I still dance irrespective (eg;the likes of 5 Royales(Catch that Teardrop), Charles Sheffield (Voodoo Working) etc;) Billing is definitely the issue.

Nah...there's only one me...thank fook you all say

Well I,for one, do yes!

[Guest mel brat]

...nothing at all to do with the quality of the music but everything to do with the imagination of the DJs...

... but i wouldn't want to hear the same records every time i went out.

I agree.

[Drew3]

there is no such thing as a bad record ,it,s just that some are better than others

Sorry to go off thread but my old fella used to say this.................... but about pubs not records!

KTF.

Drew.

[Guest ScooterNik]

One mans overplayed oldie is another mans new sound. I've raved on about tracks I've heard to mates who do a lot more than me and had "FFS are they still playing that one?". I enjoyed it, maybe I won't the 200th time, but thats to be seen.

On the other hand my mates probably HAVE heard it 200 times and are sick of it.

Each to their own....

[Ernie Andrews]

How many times have you walked into a nightclub & they have played the Snake - First you think "OH NO" and then you have a little glee to say to yourself - They are playing our music and you smile

I was in the car listing to Northsound 2 here in Aberdeen andthe last record the guy played in his 2 hours of solid pop/rock music was "Love factory" - Wow I shouted to myself and felt tingles up my spine.

Now Im sick of hearing Love factory after 30 odd years but to hear it on mainstream radio just made me feel great!

[Mattbolton]

I get requests for the like of The Snake every week from young people who LOVE that record, along with Out On The Floor etc. And, as a DJ, I'll happily play them because I can still see what effect these records still have on 300-400 teenagers. It's very difficult to remember how we all used to love these records once over and the way they made us feel.

Though there is a time and a place for every record. That time is usually sunday night at Cleethorpes when you're likely to be dancing back to back with 'My Proposal' and 'Out On The Floor' and everyone suddenly remembers how good they still sound.

It's not really an issue of 'Cool or Fool' rather wanting to listen to new things in new places and moving on.

[Paul-s]

Your First mistake..... sadly!.

They are YOUR ears, if you like a record then dance to it, don't let other peoples preducaces spoil your enjoyment of the music...... no matter WHAT it is

[Guest nomad]

Nah...there's only one me...thank fook you all say

That one too many

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

Well it's spot on to a lot here, we shouldn't be told what to dance to especially by the soul police

if you go to a venue and hear a song that's been played a lot and you like it to dance to go for it, if it's a new one you can always listen to it and next time maybe as a request you dance to it.

but i know that a lot of oldies have not been played for years to dig one out and play it again for first time in years is hardly a crime. Same as hearing Jackie Wilson - I Get The Sweetest feeling on local Hereward FM i wasn't expecting it as most of the music is 80's onwards