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April 18, 2005

Ive just bought a Technics 1210 mk2 deck & i`m looking to add the following.

Amp, tuner, cd recorder & a pair of quality speakers, i would like to be able to copy vinyl to cd so i`m looking for advice/help on what works well with what.

Any advice is vey welcome.

Many thank Garv.

FrankM · April 18, 2005

Ive just bought a Technics 1210 mk2 deck & i`m looking to add the following.

Amp, tuner, cd recorder & a pair of quality speakers, i would like to be able to copy vinyl to cd so i`m looking for advice/help on what works well with what.

Any advice is vey welcome.

Many thank Garv.

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I do hope you got the Technics cheap. To quote the Irishman giving directions "Well I would not have started from here."

If your main aim is to copy vinyl to CD all you need is a pre amp so whatever amp you buy make sure it has an input marked "phono" or get a seperate pre amp. Plug your deck into the pre amp and then the preamp into your amp

Cheap pre amp here

Decent pre amp here

You can also plug your pre amp straight into your CD recorder. And use decent cable not the stuff that comes with equipment.

What kind of cartridge came with the Technics? Shure and Ortofons are normally favoured and Stantons are better than other cheapos.

The rest of your system depends on what you want to spend and the size of your room

This is a small popular combo that seems to work

Unless there are particular local stations you wish to listen to I would get a Freeview tuner with a digital out rather than buy a tuner. The sound is superior. Do you have Sky?

Whether you buy an FM tuner, a DAB tuner you rae looking at an external aerial.

I record onto computer but other on here prefer CD recorders. I'll let them recommend.

Apologies for the curt response but I hope it helps.

Edited April 18, 2005 by FrankM

Mark B · April 18, 2005

I do hope you got the Technics cheap. To quote the Irishman giving directions "Well I would not have started from here."

If your main aim is to copy vinyl to CD all you need is a pre amp so whatever amp you buy make sure it has an input marked "phono" or get a seperate pre amp. Plug your deck into the pre amp and then the preamp into your amp

Cheap pre amp here

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You can also plug your pre amp straight into your CD recorder. And use decent cable not the stuff that comes with equipment.
What kind of cartridge came with the Technics? Shure and Ortofons are normally favoured and Stantons are better than other cheapos.

The rest of your system depends on what you want to spend and the size of your room

This is a small popular combo that seems to work

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Unless there are particular local stations you wish to listen to I would get a Freeview tuner with a digital out rather than buy a tuner. The sound is superior. Do you have Sky?

Whether you buy an FM tuner, a DAB tuner you rae looking at an external aerial.
I record onto computer but other on here prefer CD recorders. I'll let them recommend.

Apologies for the curt response but I hope it helps.

link

i too record to computer and i use clean version 5 with the in line amp supplied you connect headphone to this so you can listen whilst recording you turntable connects the in line amp so no need for going through all the amp preamp stuff.

it allows you to record your cd's in audio so will play on any palyer.

mark

April 18, 2005

I do hope you got the Technics cheap. To quote the Irishman giving directions "Well I would not have started from here."

If your main aim is to copy vinyl to CD all you need is a pre amp so whatever amp you buy make sure it has an input marked "phono" or get a seperate pre amp. Plug your deck into the pre amp and then the preamp into your amp

Cheap pre amp here

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Decent pre amp here

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You can also plug your pre amp straight into your CD recorder. And use decent cable not the stuff that comes with equipment.
What kind of cartridge came with the Technics? Shure and Ortofons are normally favoured and Stantons are better than other cheapos.

The rest of your system depends on what you want to spend and the size of your room

This is a small popular combo that seems to work

https://ws4.richersounds.com/showproduct.ph...d=CAMB-A1V3-BLK]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp://https://ws4.richersounds.com/showpro...K]Cambridge amp

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Unless there are particular local stations you wish to listen to I would get a Freeview tuner with a digital out rather than buy a tuner. The sound is superior. Do you have Sky?

Whether you buy an FM tuner, a DAB tuner you rae looking at an external aerial.
I record onto computer but other on here prefer CD recorders. I'll let them recommend.

Apologies for the curt response but I hope it helps.

link

i too record to computer and i use clean version 5 with the in line amp supplied you connect headphone to this so you can listen whilst recording you turntable connects the in line amp so no need for going through all the amp preamp stuff.
it allows you to record your cd's in audio so will play on any palyer.

mark

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Thanks for the advice lads,

Frank i take it you don`t rate the Technics deck then & how did you know i`m Irish .

I did`t think your reply was curt, very helpfull indeed. I dont have sky does that meen ive got to go & subscribe now .

I ve got an average size room so if anyone has any suggestions on speakers then i would be grateful for any tips.

My budget is around £400 ( for the lot).

Garv.

Pete S · April 18, 2005

My budget is around £400 ( for the lot).

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Are you familiar with the word BINATONE ??

Gary · April 18, 2005

Are you familiar with the word BINATONE ??

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Sounds as if you are though Pete

FrankM · April 18, 2005

Frank i take it you don`t rate the Technics deck then biggrin.gif & how did you know i`m Irish biggrin.gif .
I did`t think your reply was curt, very helpfull indeed. I dont have sky does that meen ive got to go & subscribe now whistling.gif .
I ve got an average size room so if anyone has any suggestions on speakers then i would be grateful for any tips.

My budget is around £400 ( for the lot).

Garv.

I've got two Technics for DJ'ing but my Project Debut with built in pre amp cost me £130 and that's what I listen to at home

Cambridge Audio A1 VERSION 3 Black (Stereo Amplifier) £80

Cambridge Audio DAB300 Black (DAB Tuner) £120

Mission M70S Beech Speakers £50

or

Gale GOLD MONITOR MK2 Beech Speakers £80

Cambridge Audio ATLANTIC 1M (Interconnect) x Two £20

all of the above available at Richer sounds

I don't know if you're gonna get a Cd recorder for £100. Why not record onto your computer?

If you don't have Sky then a Freeview tuner is a good option and will be cheaper than an FM or Dab Radio Tuner Check here for your TV Channels and radio Stations

Freeview

E.G Humax F2-FOX T £90 and it has a digital output

FrankM

April 18, 2005

cant recomend boss speakers highly enough they have a great punch to them

i use old ION (about 10 years) seperats the amp has only a volume controll plays music how it was recorded but that can be a bad thing some times esspecially with 40 year old vinyl bet you could pick some great stuff up off ebay for a cut price

i use the stienberg clean 5 too but cant seam to get a sound coming out when i record on to the comp any one know what im doin wrong

April 19, 2005

Are you familiar with the word BINATONE ??

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:ohmy: i cant afford Binatone, Pete have sent you a pm.

Garv.

April 19, 2005

I used to use 1210s and a valve mixer with white labels to record my vinyl onto minidisc for the car. But since Wrighty and I went our seperate ways he took the gear with him I have now got a Rega P3 turn table with a fancy cartridge (can't remember name of cartridge) and a Pro-Ject Phono Box SE, I tried a number of different phone boxes and they made a big difference to the sound. Now when I play my records on mini disc through my Harman Kardon sound system in my car there is a massive difference to the sound I picked up through the 1210s. The records sound much warmer and clearer now. I was stunned by the difference.

I can not recomend geting a good preamp highly enough. And for your technics I would recomend getting white label cartridges. They produce a much much better sound than anythign else I have used on the 1210s.

Shure White Label :thumbsup:

Pro-Ject pre amp that I use and am very happy with, although there are much better modelson the market.

Edited April 19, 2005 by James Trouble

FrankM · April 19, 2005

With you on the Shure cart but the Pre amp at £100 would take up a quarter of his budget. The Rega is a better home deck than the Technics and is worth that investment of a good phono stage. The Project Debut II comes with an inbuilt phono and you can upgrade the Ortofon by changing the stylus for £50.

April 19, 2005

I used to use 1210s and a valve mixer with white labels to record my vinyl onto minidisc for the car. But since Wrighty and I went our seperate ways he took the gear with him I have now got a Rega P3 turn table with a fancy cartridge (can't remember name of cartridge) and a Pro-Ject Phono Box SE, I tried a number of different phone boxes and they made a big difference to the sound. Now when I play my records on mini disc through my Harman Kardon sound system in my car there is a massive difference to the sound I picked up through the 1210s. The records sound much warmer and clearer now. I was stunned by the difference.

I can not recomend geting a good preamp highly enough. And for your technics I would recomend getting white label cartridges. They produce a much much better sound than anythign else I have used on the 1210s.

Shure White Label

Pro-Ject pre amp that I use and am very happy with, although there are much better modelson the market.

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Hi James thanks for the advice :ohmy: , whats the damage on the Shute cartridge could`t find a price on the link. Go easy mate i`m on a Binatone budget, at the moment ive got a Ortofon dj cartridge (blue one).

Garv.

Just read Frank`s reply.

Ok OK so i will have up the budget , sorry Pete but i wont be buying your Binatone system.

Edited April 19, 2005 by garv

Pete S · April 19, 2005

Makro sell this box containg two turntables and a mixer for £100. Same thing is £200 in HMV. Not exactly top of the range but for using at home it's perfectly good, also Richer Sounds do a good cheap amp by Acoustic Solutions, all this is great for tatting about at home. Get a standalone cd recorder for £150 or so.

April 19, 2005

Hi James thanks for the advice , whats the damage on the Shute cartridge could`t find a price on the link. Go easy mate i`m on a Binatone budget, at the moment ive got a Ortofon dj cartridge (blue one).

Garv.

Just read Frank`s reply.

Ok OK so i will have up the budget , sorry Pete but i wont be buying your Binatone system.

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Should be about £80-£100 each, but well worth it. They don't wear your records out either. :ohmy:

Here's one on ebay at the moment.

April 19, 2005

Makro sell this box containg two turntables and a mixer for £100. Same thing is £200 in HMV. Not exactly top of the range but for using at home it's perfectly good, also Richer Sounds do a good cheap amp by Acoustic Solutions, all this is great for tatting about at home. Get a standalone cd recorder for £150 or so.

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Fine if you're playing bootlegs Pete, some of us like to hear our vinyl how it was originally recorded though. :thumbsup:

Pete S · April 19, 2005

Fine if you're playing bootlegs Pete, some of us like to hear our vinyl how it was originally recorded though.

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April 19, 2005

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:thumbsup: :ohmy:

April 19, 2005

Ive just bought a Technics 1210 mk2 deck & i`m looking to add the following.

Amp, tuner, cd recorder & a pair of quality speakers, i would like to be able to copy vinyl to cd so i`m looking for advice/help on what works well with what.

Any advice is vey welcome.

Many thank Garv.

link

Garv

Try something like a cheap marantz amp - up to £150 and comes with a built in phono input.

Philips twin deck recorder at about £180, or if you've already got a cd player try a pioneer or marantz cd recorder. Finally some wharfedale diamond 8 or 9 speakers at about £180. Try Richer sounds for bargains.

Hope this helps

Andy

April 19, 2005

Just like to say thanks to EVERYONE who took the trouble to give advice & help,

Its given me & my wallet a lot to think about.

Thanks all :thumbup: :huh:

Garv.

Gary · April 19, 2005

Just like to say thanks to EVERYONE who took the trouble to give advice & help,
Its given me & my wallet a lot to think about.

Thanks all

Garv.

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And provided some snippets of top entertainment as well mate :yes:

April 19, 2005

And provided some snippets of top entertainment as well mate

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What i`m still trying to work out is why Mr Trouble has a picture of you as his avatar :thumbup:

Gaz would you like to tell the good folks on SS about a particular TV show you have been on :yes: :yes: .

Over to you Mr Briggs

Garv.

Gary · April 19, 2005

What i`m still trying to work out is why Mr Trouble has a picture of you as his avatar

Gaz would you like to tell the good folks on SS about a particular TV show you have been on .

Over to you Mr Briggs

Garv.

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:yes: You'll have to pry the answer from my cold dead fingers.

:huh:

Gary · April 19, 2005

What i`m still trying to work out is why Mr Trouble has a picture of you as his avatar

Gaz would you like to tell the good folks on SS about a particular TV show you have been on .

Over to you Mr Briggs

Garv.

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:yes: Just figured out what you mean about Mr Troubles avatar mate (Its not offensive at all Mr T, just an in joke between me and Garv) nice one :yes:

Gary · April 19, 2005

I dont believe you did that Garv :thumbup:

:huh:

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