Was just thinking today, that sometimes when you get over the initial choking reaction to someone 'stealing one of our tunes', the result of a sampling can be better than the original, or at least different in a good way.

For instance, despite Johnnie Taylor's 'What About My Love' being one of my all-time favourites, once I'd recovered from the shock of hearing it on mainstream radio, I quite liked the way Shapeshifters Lola's Theme made an uplifting song out of a heartbreakingly sad one. Shame Johnnie never got to see it at No.1, bless him.

I loved Deep Sensation's treatment of Sly Johnson for 'Somehow, Somewhere (There's a Soul Heaven)', and of course Angie Stone's 'Wish I Didn't Miss You'.

What about some more recent ones?

T x

Was just thinking today, that sometimes when you get over the initial choking reaction to someone 'stealing one of our tunes', the result of a sampling can be better than the original, or at least different in a good way.

For instance, despite Johnnie Taylor's 'What About My Love' being one of my all-time favourites, once I'd recovered from the shock of hearing it on mainstream radio, I quite liked the way Shapeshifters Lola's Theme made an uplifting song out of a heartbreakingly sad one. Shame Johnnie never got to see it at No.1, bless him.

I loved Deep Sensation's treatment of Sly Johnson for 'Somehow, Somewhere (There's a Soul Heaven)', and of course Angie Stone's 'Wish I Didn't Miss You'.

What about some more recent ones?

T x

How about Newcastle band Spearmint whose song 'Sweeping the Nation' relied heavily on 'Out on the Floor', you might think this sounds a bit obvious but it works really well.

Was just thinking today, that sometimes when you get over the initial choking reaction to someone 'stealing one of our tunes', the result of a sampling can be better than the original, or at least different in a good way.

For instance, despite Johnnie Taylor's 'What About My Love' being one of my all-time favourites, once I'd recovered from the shock of hearing it on mainstream radio, I quite liked the way Shapeshifters Lola's Theme made an uplifting song out of a heartbreakingly sad one. Shame Johnnie never got to see it at No.1, bless him.

I loved Deep Sensation's treatment of Sly Johnson for 'Somehow, Somewhere (There's a Soul Heaven)', and of course Angie Stone's 'Wish I Didn't Miss You'.

What about some more recent ones?

T x

Spiller's "Groovejet (If This Ain't Love)" was better than Carol William's "Love Is You" IMO (and I'm a Salsoul freak)........

Ian D

I think Paul Weller did a very very good take of "Thinking of you"

Also thought the Levi stubbs and the four tops did a pretty nice cover of If I were a carpenter from the Tim Hardin original.. Love both versions indeed..

Or what about Armand Van Helden's You Don't Know Me, from Carrie Lucas' Dance With U? And Stardust's Music Sounds Better With You from Chaka Khan's Fate? I loved all that Disco House stuff from the late 90s.

Wasn't keen on the Freemasons' take on 'This Time Baby' from a couple of years back (Love On My Mind). Massive on the gay scene though apparently. Mind you, I always thought that Jackie Moore's version was better than the O'Jays in the first place.

T x

Eminems 'Hi My Name Is Slim Shady' took heavily from Labi Siffres 'I Got The...' which incidentally is one of my favourite records ever...as you can imagine...I was less than enthralled

Pretty much any hip hop record that samples "Funky Drummer" is better than "Funky Drummer" itself.

Especially Public Enemy's "Rebel Without A Pause".

Pretty much any hip hop record that samples "Funky Drummer" is better than "Funky Drummer" itself.

Especially Public Enemy's "Rebel Without A Pause".

Tony Rounce is down with the kids!

Yes...the Rounce the rebel...without a pause i'm lowering my level

Didn't Gwyneth Paltrow do a god awful version of D'Angelos 'Cruisin' for some crap film?

Or what about Armand Van Helden's You Don't Know Me, from Carrie Lucas' Dance With U? And Stardust's Music Sounds Better With You from Chaka Khan's Fate? I loved all that Disco House stuff from the late 90s.

Wasn't keen on the Freemasons' take on 'This Time Baby' from a couple of years back (Love On My Mind). Massive on the gay scene though apparently. Mind you, I always thought that Jackie Moore's version was better than the O'Jays in the first place.

T x

Who sampled Rare pleasure's - let me down easy?.. mind's gone blank...

Jayne.x

NuYoricans version of Black Gold of the Sun is very good indeed.

Who sampled Rare pleasure's - let me down easy?.. mind's gone blank...

Jayne.x

wasn't it david morales ? (sic)

Eminems 'Hi My Name Is Slim Shady' took heavily from Labi Siffres 'I Got The...' which incidentally is one of my favourite records ever...as you can imagine...I was less than enthralled

Wu Tang Clan had already used that back in 93 (the bassline a couple of bars before the bass/keyboards bit Dre used) together with a Gladys Knight sample for their 'Can It All Be So Simple'

you know it's Chas and Dave playing bass and piano on that Labi Siffre LP, back in their session muso days?

Rare Pleasure sample was David Morales, title was something like 'Needin' You' i think...

you know it's Chas and Dave playing bass and piano on that Labi Siffre LP, back in their session muso days?

I know!! Only found out about that little titbit years after first hearing it...must admit I thought my mate was taking the piss when he told me

Who sampled Rare pleasure's - let me down easy?.. mind's gone blank...

Jayne.x

David Morales presents the Face "Needin' U"

Rare Pleasure sample was David Morales, title was something like 'Needin' You' i think...

Correct.

Rare Pleasure is still far superior according to me.

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Absolutely thousands

here's a list of just a few from one Dilla album

Watcha Gonna Wear Now - Detroit Emeralds

You're Gonna Need Me - Dionne Warwick

People Hold On - Eddie Kendricks

Fruitman - Kool and the Gang

All I do is think of you - Jackson Five

I Don't Really Care - L.V. Johnson

For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder

A Legend In Its Own Time - Smokey & Miracles

Only One Can Win - Sylvers

I Can't Stand (To See You Cry) - Escorts

Sweet Misery - Martha Reeves

To The Other Man - Luther Ingram

Rubber Band - the Trammps

Walk on By - Undisputed Truth

Just Because I Really Love You - Jerry Butler

Maybe - Three Degrees

Don't Say Good Night - Isley Brothers

To You With Love - Moments

Edited October 21, 200816 yr by lifeandsoul

I think Paul Weller did a very very good take of "Thinking of you"

He also massacred Nolan Porters - If I could only be sure, in a live version...

Mal

The flame suit is on...

I certainly loved the energy of RIDE ON TIME ~ puts Loleatta Holloway's LOVE SENSATION into the shade - it sounds plodding by comparison...and I'm a big fan of Soul-Disco in general and Salsoul in particular.

Correct.

Rare Pleasure is still far superior according to me.

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I picked up a "Best of Sampled" 2-CD-er in Tesco's a couple of years back. It has these tracks - I don't know what all of them have been more recently sampled by - a couple have already been mentioned in this topic, though:

• 1. David Axelrod HUMAN ABSTRACT, THE (1969) Jazz
  2. Banbara SHACK UP (1975) Soul/R&B/Blues
  3. John Barry 7 GOLDEN GIRL (1964) Jazz
  4. Shirley Bassey LIGHT MY FIRE (1970) Jazz
  5. Archie Bell & the Drells STRATEGY (1979) Soul/R&B/Blues
  6. Blue Mitchell GOOD HUMOUR MAN (1967) Jazz
  7. Hamilton Bohannon ME AND THE GANG (1978) Soul/R&B/Blues
  8. Bob Borough THREE IS THE MAGIC NUMBER (1972) Popular/Rock
  9. Tom Brock THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS WORLD THAT CAN STOP ME... (1974) Soul/R&B/Blues
  10. James Brown MAKE IT FUNKY (1971) Soul/R&B/Blues
  11. Oliver Cheatham GET DOWN SATURDAY NIGHT (1983) Soul/R&B/Blues
  12. Chi-Lites ARE YOU MY WOMAN? (1973) Soul/R&B/Blues
  13. Chic CHIC CHEER (1978) Soul/R&B/Blues
  14. Billy Cobham STRATUS (1973) Jazz
  15. Delfonics READY OR NOT HERE I COME (1968) Soul/R&B/Blues
  16. Double Exposure EVERYMAN (1976) Soul/R&B/Blues
  17. Family Tree feat. Sharon Brown FAMILY TREE (1979) Soul/R&B/Blues
  18. Darryl Hall & John Oates I CAN'T GO FOR THAT (NO CAN DO) (1981) Popular/Rock
  19. Honey Drippers IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT (1973) Soul/R&B/Blues
  20. Jimmy 'Bo' Horne DANCE ACROSS THE FLOOR (1978) Soul/R&B/Blues
  21. Thelma Houston I'M HERE AGAIN (1977) Soul/R&B/Blues
  22. Gunter Kallmann Choir DAYDREAM (1969) Popular/Rock
  23. Ben E. King SUPERNATURAL THING (1975) Soul/R&B/Blues
  24. Carrie Lucas DANCE WITH YOU (1977) Soul/R&B/Blues
  25. Lulu LOVE LOVES TO LOVE LOVE (1967) Popular/Rock
  26. Curtis Mayfield RIGHT ON FOR THE DARKNESS (1974) Soul/R&B/Blues
  27. David McCallum EDGE, THE (1966) Jazz
  28. Miami feat. Robert Moore CHICKEN YELLOW (LET ME DO IT TO YOU) (1974) Soul/R&B/Blues
  29. Patti Page OLD CAPE COD (1953) Popular/Rock
  30. Rare Pleasure LET ME DOWN EASY (1976) Soul/R&B/Blues
  31. Googie Rene SMOKEY JOE'S LA LA (1966) Jazz
  32. Buddy Rich BEAT GOES ON, THE (1967) Jazz
  33. Minnie Riperton INSIDE MY LOVE (1975) Popular/Rock
  34. Max Romeo CHASE THE DEVIL (1976) Reggae/Ska etc.
  35. Patrice Rushen HAVEN'T YOU HEARD? (1980) Soul/R&B/Blues
  36. Lalo Schifrin JIM ON THE MOVE (1996) Jazz
  37. Tom Scott SNEAKIN' IN THE BACK (1974) Jazz
  38. Labi Siffre I GOT THE... (1975) Soul/R&B/Blues
  39. Sly & the Family Stone CROSSWORD PUZZLE (1975) Soul/R&B/Blues
  40. Ike & Tina Turner WHOLE LOTTA LOVE (1974) Soul/R&B/Blues
  41. Carol Williams LOVE IS YOU (1977) Soul/R&B/Blues
  42. Bill Withers GRANDMA'S HANDS (1971) Soul/R&B/Blues
  

Though not soul, the Blue Note series 'Blue Break Beats vol. 1-4' is an interesting selection of sampled tunes (mainly jazz funk) with the odd soul artist thrown in - Ike and Tina Turner, Marlena Shaw, Lou Rawls. Worth checking out if you like jazz grooves.

I picked up a "Best of Sampled" 2-CD-er in Tesco's a couple of years back. It has these tracks - I don't know what all of them have been more recently sampled by - a couple have already been mentioned in this topic, though:

• 11. Oliver Cheatham GET DOWN SATURDAY NIGHT (1983) Soul/R&B/Blues
  16. Double Exposure EVERYMAN (1976) Soul/R&B/Blues
  30. Rare Pleasure LET ME DOWN EASY (1976) Soul/R&B/Blues
  

super duper tunes and nice jobs done with the samples too.

Jayne.x

The flame suit is on...

I certainly loved the energy of RIDE ON TIME ~ puts Loleatta Holloway's LOVE SENSATION into the shade - it sounds plodding by comparison...and I'm a big fan of Soul-Disco in general and Salsoul in particular.

surprised sliced tomato's hasn't had a mention yet.... (or has it).

There's a nice soulful dance track I picked up last year off juno that sample's J J Barnes - please come home too.

Jayne.x

super duper tunes and nice jobs done with the samples too.

Jayne.x

Which song (who) sampled EVERYMAN, Jayne?

I originally have this on the "Ten Per Cent" L.P., which I bought for DM 2 (50p) in a long-gone chain of shops called "Kaufhalle" in Frechen, Germany in February 1980 - funny how one can remember useless info like that - I also bought Joe Simon's "Sounds of Simon" (Spring - 1970?) and Luther's "This Close To You" (Cotillion - 1977) albums on the same day, for the same price.

Thanks - Joe

Tony Rounce is down with the kids!

Yes...the Rounce the rebel...without a pause i'm lowering my level

"Rebel'"s nearly 22 years old now, doubt that PE mean that much to today's 'kids' really!

"Bring the Noise" is one of my all time favourite records. "Soul on a roll, but you treat it like soap on a rope"...

Another quality LP compilation with various covers/new takes on old records is the Strange Brew compilation...here's the track listing

1Satisfaction - Mary Wells

2Hold on I'm Comin' [Edit] - Herbie Mann

3Knock on Wood - Ella Fitzgerald

4You Showed Me - Phil Moore, Jr.

5My Girl Sloopy - Killer Joe

6Wicked Messenger - Marion Williams

7Whole Lotta Love - King Curtis & the Kingpins

8I Heard It Through the Grapevine - Ella Fitzgerald

9Willie & Laura Mae Jones - Clarence Carter

10Strange Brew - Arif Mardin

11I Thought I Knew You Well - Carmen McRae

12Blowin' in the Wind - Jack McDuff

13Jumpin' Jack Flash - Ananda Shankar

14Sympathy for the Devil - Arif Mardin

15People Are Strange - Lea DeLaria

16My Girl - Rahsaan Roland Kirk

17Respect - Freedom Sounds

18I Want You - Carmen McRae

19I Want You Back - Shirley Scott

20Walk on the Wild Side - Herbie Mann

21I Shall Be Released - Marion Williams

22Paint It Black - Johnny Harris

Edited October 21, 200816 yr by Beeks

Which song (who) sampled EVERYMAN, Jayne?

I originally have this on the "Ten Per Cent" L.P., which I bought for DM 2 (50p) in a long-gone chain of shops called "Kaufhalle" in Frechen, Germany in February 1980 - funny how one can remember useless info like that - I also bought Joe Simon's "Sounds of Simon" (Spring - 1970?) and Luther's "This Close To You" (Cotillion - 1977) albums on the same day, for the same price.

Thanks - Joe

Argh - I was just going to ask that!.

I can't remember. It was about ten years ago now. (or feels like it). I've got it at home on a Rampling Comp or something similar. I'd never heard Everyman - I heard the track that sampled it first, Simon White played the original somewhere and it went straight on my wants list.

Double Exposure was an American disco era band hailing from Philadelphia, USA

Band members were Leonard Davis, Joe Harris, Chuck Whittington, and Jimmy Williams and they recorded for the Salsoul record label.

On December 11, 1975, at Sigma Sound Studios in Philadelphia, Pa, Double Exposure began recording what would become one of the most successful albums ever to come out of the Philly music empire.

Their 1976 album Ten Percent featured a pair of major club hits with the title track's remix by Walter Gibbons being the first commercially available 12-inch single. The song Ten Percent and My Love is Free established the Ten Percent Album with a "gold" and both songs hit "gold" status.

Before signing to Salsoul, the band were known as United Image and recorded on the Stax Records label.

In 2001, a dance group called M&S used samples from Double Exposure's "Everyman" in their song called "Salsoul Nugget".Songs include "My Love is Free.

https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TEf3tZmgKiQ

ah, can you post links on here?.. can't remember!

Jayne.x

"Rebel'"s nearly 22 years old now, doubt that PE mean that much to today's 'kids' really!

"Bring the Noise" is one of my all time favourite records. "Soul on a roll, but you treat it like soap on a rope"...

Talking of PE what about Black Steel in the hour of Chaos...I thought Martina Topley Birds version with Tricky was great...the original actually sampled Isaac Hayes!!

Incidentally it was also covered by Sepultura the Brazillian metal band haha

Argh - I was just going to ask that!.

I can't remember. It was about ten years ago now. (or feels like it). I've got it at home on a Rampling Comp or something similar. I'd never heard Everyman - I heard the track that sampled it first, Simon White played the original somewhere and it went straight on my wants list.

...

In 2001, a dance group called M&S used samples from Double Exposure's "Everyman" in their song called "Salsoul Nugget".Songs include "My Love is Free.

https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TEf3tZmgKiQ

Jayne.x

Thanks for the info, Jayne - I don't have "Salsoul Nugget" (If I remember, when I'm back home at the week-end, I'll fish out this BEST OF SAMPLED CD and see if it mentions this tune).

FWIW, my favourite tune on the 10% L.P. is MY LOVE IS FREE, which just beats off EVERYMAN and the title track...

Thanks for the info, Jayne - I don't have "Salsoul Nugget" (If I remember, when I'm back home at the week-end, I'll fish out this BEST OF SAMPLED CD and see if it mentions this tune).

FWIW, my favourite tune on the 10% L.P. is MY LOVE IS FREE, which just beats off EVERYMAN and the title track...

ooh, I dont think I know it.. I'll listen out for it.

Jayne.x

I have a feeling that "My Love Is Free" was sampled on the excellent Profile 12" "One Man" by Chanelle. Would need to play the latter again to be absolutely sure, mind, as I haven't heard it for almost 20 year.

Anyway, it's my favourite Double Exposure record, too...

Edited October 21, 200816 yr by TONY ROUNCE

Some young man came up to me at the club the other day and asked what record was playing cos he wanted to sample it. It was Dee Clark.

Didn't Weller sample Martha Reeves' 'I'm Ready For Love' in 'Town Called Malice'?

Some of Andy Smith's (ex Portishead) stuff is ace. I know he used a lot for his Document LP years ago and is now a staunch collector of soul.

I heard a really good use of the intro to 'In Orbit' the other day on the soundtrack to the 90's film 'Go'.

Blue Boy's 'Remember Me' featuring the live Montreal version of Marlena Shaw's 'Woman Of The Ghetto' might be the biggest seller.

The Go Team used 'Come See About Me' and a million other tracks like 'Soul Time' on their Thunder Lightening Strike album. Rather well actually.

M

Got to be Funk Soul Brother for me now, The Just Brother just dose not cut the mustard any more its not the same a boring old Hillbilly tune without that mix.

MC Hammer's 'You Can't Touch This' was a huge chart hit sampling the late Rick James' 'Superfreak'.

I have a feeling that "My Love Is Free" was sampled on the excellent Profile 12" "One Man" by Chanelle. Would need to play the latter again to be absolutely sure, mind, as I haven't heard it for almost 20 year.

Anyway, it's my favourite Double Exposure record, too...

Well, if I remember (when I'm home at the week-end), I'll have a go at Chanelle's ONE MAN, Tony - I have it on the "Now Dance 89" L.P.

I suppose I might as well bash MY LOVE IS FREE as well, while I'm dusting off some vinyl

Spiller's "Groovejet (If This Ain't Love)" was better than Carol William's "Love Is You" IMO (and I'm a Salsoul freak)........

Ian D

Definitely. And Soulsearcher's 'Can't Get Enough' pissed all over the crap lyrics of 'Let's Lovedance Tonight' by Gary's Gang.

Respect to the Carshalton Massive... I used to go to St Phils!

Theresa x

This thread's bloody awful.

A few mates and me spin a little vinyl in a busy town centre wine bar in Sheffield, we often drop in tunes that have been sampled. loads of people come up and say "that tunes familliar!?!". maybe covers and remixs promote original sounds to people and influence other purer sounds later in their lives.

I heard a really good use of the intro to 'In Orbit' the other day on the soundtrack to the 90's film 'Go'.

M

Was it this?

Lionrock - Scatter & Swing

P

I heard a really good use of the intro to 'In Orbit' the other day on the soundtrack to the 90's film 'Go'.

The Go Team used 'Come See About Me' and a million other tracks like 'Soul Time' on their Thunder Lightening Strike album. Rather well actually.

...and here's the soundtrack list...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139239/soundtrack

Respect to the Carshalton Massive... I used to go to St Phils!

...or the Virgin Megastore, as it's known by the local youth....

Although I don't prefer it to the original, I enjoyed hearing WISH I (by Jem), which samples frequently the guitar intro (was that Ernest Ranglin, I wonder?) to Dotty & Bonny's DEAREST - a Duke Reid-produced Ska ballad from 1964.

In turn, I believe that this DEAREST was a version of a 50s Doowop tune, though who sang it escapes me

Edited October 22, 200816 yr by ZapatootheTiger

Although I don't prefer it to the original, I enjoyed hearing WISH I (by Jem), which samples frequently the guitar intro (was that Ernest Ranglin, I wonder?) to Dotty & Bonny's DEAREST - a Duke Reid-produced Ska ballad from 1964.

In turn, I believe that this DEAREST was a version of a 50s Doowop tune, though who sang it escapes me

Mickey & Sylvia did the original, their follow up to "Love Is Strange". It was also cut by Buddy Holly under the title "Umm Oh Yeah". Both it and "Love Is Strange" were part-written by Bo Diddley, no less!

Thanks once again, Tony - I was tempted to put in an "over to 'Rouncey'" comment in my previous post, but didn't feel it right to presume...

While I have one Sylvia L.P. (LAY IT ON ME ~ U.S. Vibration VI131 - 1977) and 2 singles and some of her productions, I have nothing by M&S...

Was "Sylvian Van der Pool Robinson" her actual real name?

Thanks once again, Tony - I was tempted to put in an "over to 'Rouncey'" comment in my previous post, but didn't feel it right to presume...

While I have one Sylvia L.P. (LAY IT ON ME ~ U.S. Vibration VI131 - 1977) and 2 singles and some of her productions, I have nothing by M&S...

Was "Sylvian Van der Pool Robinson" her actual real name?

Yes, she was born Sylvia Vanderpool, and she became a Robinson by marriage. If you ever get a chance to hear it, her first single from 1952 (as 'Little Sylvia') "Drive Daddy, Drive" is one of the classics of double entendre R & B.

Yes, she was born Sylvia Vanderpool, and she became a Robinson by marriage. If you ever get a chance to hear it, her first single from 1952 (as 'Little Sylvia') "Drive Daddy, Drive" is one of the classics of double entendre R & B.

A favourite for me is the Modern slow version of 'I get the sweetest feeling' was it Dasy Hicks?

absolutely love that take on it.

Armand Van Helden for me with You Don't Know Me and i am very much into dance music and

Alcatzar - Crying At The Discoteque is great which samples an old Disco tune Spacer or something.

Alcatzar - Crying At The Discoteque is great which samples an old Disco tune Spacer or something.

Yep. It was Sheila & B. Devotion's SPACER (1979) ~ a fine blend of Euro Disco and American chic (as in Chic!)

...and I like the Alcazar version too, though it's a tad speeded up...

Armand Van Helden for me with You Don't Know Me and i am very much into dance music and

Alcatzar - Crying At The Discoteque is great which samples an old Disco tune Spacer or something.

I can hear the Armand Van Helden thing in my head but what did it sample?..

Ta

Jayne.x