Tommy1 Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 I often get a question why most of the soul collectors, DJ's, dancers etc. are mostly white people? Is there a good answer to this?
Guest Mrs Simsy Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) I often get a question why most of the soul collectors, DJ's, dancers etc. are mostly white people? Is there a good answer to this? Because it makes my heart beat faster, the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and theres nothing quite like the people you meet on your travels! The above is why i love soul music btw! Edited October 10, 2008 by Mrs Simsy
Jumpinjoan Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 The telly's shite Sorry answered the question in your title before reading your first post. Now I'm confused as to what the question is It doesn't take much!
stomper45 Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Joan, get to the cinema, think 1 or 2 good films on way... Is the coast clear
stomper45 Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 I often get a question why most of the soul collectors, DJ's, dancers etc. are mostly white people? Is there a good answer to this? Too much talcum powder
Simsy Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Is there a good answer to this? Nothing else grips yer heart like soul music does.
Guest Beeks Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) I often get a question why most of the soul collectors, DJ's, dancers etc. are mostly white people? Is there a good answer to this? I certainly don't think it's a race issue...just so happens that regardless of the shite the BNP tell you the UK is still predominantly white that's all...for what it's worth alot of my black friends actually quite like northern/old soul...but tend to just dip their toe in from time to time...they tend to mainly DJ/dance/listen to Nu Soul(Hate that word but if I say Modern Soul it will confuse you all haha) or your classic Gaye/Mayfield/O'Jays type stuff...now thats just my friends...and granted they are all in their late 20's/mid 30s so I can't comment wider that what I directly experience Edited October 10, 2008 by Beeks
Harry Crosby Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Nothing else grips yer heart like soul music does. And bacardi n coke by the looks of your avatar kylie
Guest nomad Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 I think I would have loved soul music whatever colour I was born...just a coincidence that Im white
Pauldonnelly Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Because Bohemian Rhapsody is the worst piece of music EVER made, undiluted shyte.
Spacehopper Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 i love it cos it has the lot ,great lyrics (mostly!)...great molodies and a beat that makes you wanna dance !!!....your soul is suppose to be that part of you deep inside ...the real you...thats why this music has its name...it reaches the parts even heinekin cant ! why are most of us white ?....despite it being black music i suppose the northern scene is part of white working class culture,maybe cos back in the day youngsters didnt use to mix quite as much as todays clubbers ??....'most' black people that i know either like reggae or hip hop which is more laid back and the dancin is about looking cool rather than dancing your nuts off,sweating your tits off and generally not looking that sexy !!... its odd but most ROOTS/dub reggae gigs are also mainly white crowds,other than the REAL religious rastas...in the main the black crowd go for the ragga/dancehall ting i guess the black thing is just not a retro thing....i can vaguely remember i tv programme about the u.s and hip hop and that said in the u.s something that is 10 years old is past it....i know there are black souulsources maybe they know better than me... personally id love to see a more mixed crowd
Bigsoulman Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 For me it's probably due to the fact that I grew up in a house listening to Jackie Wilson, Ray Charles, The Drifters, Ben E King etc, all late 50s recordings, then when I started going to the clubs Stax/Motown had just started to make it's mark, so a natural progression for me, Lenny
Guest Mrs Simsy Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 And bacardi n coke by the looks of your avatar kylie It's vodka Harry! Helps me limber up before i hit the dancefloor!
Jumpinjoan Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Joan, get to the cinema, think 1 or 2 good films on way... Is the coast clear :lol:
Harry Crosby Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 It's vodka Harry! Helps me limber up before i hit the dancefloor! helps me hit the dancefloor too, normally face first back on topic same as lenny really i grew u in the sixties and my parents were somewhat famouse for there after hours parties, so i grew up hearing, RONNETTES,RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS, CRYSTALS, N MOTOWN STUFF my mum & dad loved
Guest nubes Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 i love it cos it has the lot ,great lyrics (mostly!)...great molodies and a beat that makes you wanna dance !!!....your soul is suppose to be that part of you deep inside ...the real you...thats why this music has its name...it reaches the parts even heinekin cant ! why are most of us white ?....despite it being black music i suppose the northern scene is part of white working class culture,maybe cos back in the day youngsters didnt use to mix quite as much as todays clubbers ??....'most' black people that i know either like reggae or hip hop which is more laid back and the dancin is about looking cool rather than dancing your nuts off,sweating your tits off and generally not looking that sexy !!... its odd but most ROOTS/dub reggae gigs are also mainly white crowds,other than the REAL religious rastas...in the main the black crowd go for the ragga/dancehall ting i guess the black thing is just not a retro thing....i can vaguely remember i tv programme about the u.s and hip hop and that said in the u.s something that is 10 years old is past it....i know there are black souulsources maybe they know better than me... personally id love to see a more mixed crowd I will use your post as a base...in certain respects ..a lot of places back then had an unwritten rule just how many of us Black kids got into clubs...so most of us didnt bother going..not saying that this happened at any of the NOrthern soul clubs that i went to...but certainly some of the Southern based clubs were very guilty of this....my own inroads into soul ...came mainly from my parents..who under duress finally admitted that they had been to clubs like the Flamingo and Roaring 20s..in London..during the early days of mass Black Immigration during the late 50s /early 60s...which despite the infamous Colour bar...attracted quite a vast selection of people.... my own interest into soul music started to take hold in 73...the sounds of Philly really grabbed my 12 year old ears...my first record i purchased was Backstabbers- O'Jays...from there on and greatly infuenced by my older male cousins...most of whom dressing like extras from Shaft....started listening to some of the deeper Funkier tunes that were creeping thru....at this point my life was to change irrevocably...my parents decided to upsticks and move out of London to Northampton..at 13....i thought my life had ended....not realising that as couple of years down the line... the soul music which i had just discovered and loved was going to take me down another unique path...wasnt always easy....because when i decided that northern was where i wanted to be...i didnt bank on the surge of the Rasta movement of the 70s...whose followers made it quite clear that they saw me as being some sort of traitor to the cause...it was very rough for a while...but when they realised what a stubborn bird i was..i was just isolated by them...anyway 30+ years down the line i am still here....and most of my former foes actually quite like some of the music along with a bit of C+W...now what the hell is that all about ...Delxxx
Pete S Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 and most of my former foes actually quite like some of the music along with a bit of C+W...now what the hell is that all about ...Delxxx Del, you buy or look through an old reggae collection and you will always find a Jim Reeves record - honestly!
Guest nubes Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Del, you buy or look through an old reggae collection and you will always find a Jim Reeves record - honestly! Pete...Jim Reeves was the reason why i fled to Wigan mate....every blessed Sunday...and it wasnt just in our house either....all my mates had to endure the same scenario ....Delxxxx
Guest john s Posted October 10, 2008 Posted October 10, 2008 Del, you buy or look through an old reggae collection and you will always find a Jim Reeves record - honestly! I love that picture on the back of the Prince Buster "Message Dubwise" LP - Buster standing in his record shop in Kingston, in front of an LP display rack featuring Tom Jones, Engelbert Humperdinck, Jim Reeves.....
Tommy1 Posted October 10, 2008 Author Posted October 10, 2008 Sorry if the question(s) was a bit confusing, could be me thinking in Norwegian, but trying to write English , but Spacehopper and Nubian75soulsis did give me some good answers. Of our 1500 members at Oslo Soul Experience only 3 or 4 is black. Of all "known" and "big" soul DJ's I've met or heard of, only one is black. All the big collectors/dealers I know are white. And not forget the people who are working hard collecting and writing down history of unknown soul artists/ labels, or people making compilations, releasing unissued stuff etc. So, why does it seem like this music is mostly appreciated by whites? Could the answer be as easy as Berry Gordys way of business, the music was aimed at a white crowed and it stuck there?
Guest nubes Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Sorry if the question(s) was a bit confusing, could be me thinking in Norwegian, but trying to write English , but Spacehopper and Nubian75soulsis did give me some good answers. Of our 1500 members at Oslo Soul Experience only 3 or 4 is black. Of all "known" and "big" soul DJ's I've met or heard of, only one is black. All the big collectors/dealers I know are white. And not forget the people who are working hard collecting and writing down history of unknown soul artists/ labels, or people making compilations, releasing unissued stuff etc. So, why does it seem like this music is mostly appreciated by whites? Could the answer be as easy as Berry Gordys way of business, the music was aimed at a white crowed and it stuck there? I think..you have it the nail on the head mate....look at the fuss ..when original RnB reared it's head onto the Northern scene a few years back..now to me ..there should have not been a problem ...because this was the most natural progression onto what later became known as soul music......with Motown is was Black music purifried to meet a specific audience....for most soulfolk on here... i would say that Motown was the starting point.....Delxxx
Davetay Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 I often get a question why most of the soul collectors, DJ's, dancers etc. are mostly white people? Is there a good answer to this? cause country&western is shite
Epic Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 cause country&western is shite Bobby Womack thinks it's alright & most of Oscar Pery's albums have a C&W air about them - sorry Dave it sounds like I am defending it - you are right it is shite.
Spacehopper Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Del, you buy or look through an old reggae collection and you will always find a Jim Reeves record - honestly! also lots of great reggae tunes are originally c&w songs....!... think it was beenie man who recently recorded a c&w song in a nashville studio !...loved to see their faces when he walked in...
Guest in town Mikey Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 I would think it has a lot to do with timing? The early to mid 70s saw the fruits of the blaxploitation stuff. Funk was THE powerhouse black music. Politically and musically that was the sound of black youth. The Northern Soul crowd pretty much rejected the funk sound, and many hated with a passion the disco sound that followed it. So it pretty much goes without saying that the majority would have stuck with what was 'their' sound of that moment in time. Also the popularity of Ska and reggae in the early 70s would have catered for the nostalgic.
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