Guest Andy Kempster Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 did this ever make it to vinyl...???
Harry Crosby Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Not that i know of andy, think searling played it from an acetate
Guest Andy Kempster Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Not that i know of andy, think searling played it from an acetate yeah, i've got it on a cd but not heard of it on vinyl.
Steve G Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 did this ever make it to vinyl...??? acetate only andy
Trev Thomas Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 the version that searling used to play was by nate adams on a atlantic acetate, hermon hitsons version is c.d. only
Harry Crosby Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 the version that searling used to play was by nate adams on a atlantic acetate, hermon hitsons version is c.d. only Not saying your wrong trev, but he played it as HERMAN HITSON got an old northern noise with his playlist in with it as herman hitson in the listing
Steve G Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Not saying your wrong trev, but he played it as HERMAN HITSON got an old northern noise with his playlist in with it as herman hitson in the listing and Ginger has a copy of it too
Trev Thomas Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 Not saying your wrong trev, but he played it as HERMAN HITSON got an old northern noise with his playlist in with it as herman hitson in the listing he played it as hermon hitson, but its actually by nate adams
Trev Thomas Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 so is nate adams a vinyl release then no, unreleased atlantic acetate, searling had one & i think rob thomas had one
Harry Crosby Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 so didn`t searling know who it was then, seems strange to cover an acetate, i know he did it with little ann simply because he didn`t know who the artist was at the time, wonder if this was the same case then?
Our Kid Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Slightly off track but seem to recall somebody introducing another version of 'Stick By Me Baby' as Herman Hitson at Brid last year - have we any clues about this one? - sounded good to me. Paul
Ian Seaman Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 I had a HH acetate/dubplate in my sales box for 2 years with no takers, recently found out it,s really Nate Adams on it Has Susan Schiffrin female Right track on B side Ian.
grant Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Not saying your wrong trev, but he played it as HERMAN HITSON got an old northern noise with his playlist in with it as herman hitson in the listing agree - was there when he played it and remember himannouncing it as HH. Mark Freeman will probably be able to confirm this as sure he will have on one of his wigan tapes both NE and HH almost sound the same to me anyway what cd is HH on? only ever heard a very rough version on mp3.
Guest Andy Kempster Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 agree - was there when he played it and remember himannouncing it as HH. Mark Freeman will probably be able to confirm this as sure he will have on one of his wigan tapes both NE and HH almost sound the same to me anyway what cd is HH on? only ever heard a very rough version on mp3. i've got it on "Rare & Unreleased Georgia Soul (1961-1976)", think its a kev roberts jobbie, but cant remember
ChrisOD1964 Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 did this ever make it to vinyl...??? i know its on a herman c.d called.. you are to much for the human heart chris
Garethx Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) so didn`t searling know who it was then, seems strange to cover an acetate, i know he did it with little ann simply because he didn`t know who the artist was at the time, wonder if this was the same case then? Hi Harry I've seen the offending article. It's an Atlantic vinyl test pressing rather than an acetate: Atlantic logo, laminated white label, neatly typed credits and recording dates. I think James Trouble has or has had another Nate Adams Atlantic TP: the instrumental of Herman Hitson's "Yes You Did": I think he may have got that off Sam. Maybe James can confirm? That's from the same session as his released Atlantic 45, "Why Is It Taking So Long", which is a great cheapie if you don't know it. As to why Richard covered it up, I can only speculate that it was at the insistence of his supplier, presumably John Anderson. Many of these Atlantic TPs are not one-offs, and that would provide a perfectly logical reason to cover this one up. The Herman Hitson version released on CD a few years ago is quite different, definitely a different band take and a much rawer, looser version of the song. It seems to have been producer Johnny Brantley's method to have as many of his stable of artists record as many versions of the songs of his main songwriters, Lewis, Farmer & Lewis as possible. Maybe there are further takes of "Love Slipped Through..." or "You Don't Mean It" by the likes of Lee Moses waiting to be found on shelves somewhere. Here's hoping! Edited October 7, 2008 by garethx
Steve G Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Ginger's version sounds more like the Nate Evans based on your description Gareth. But he called it Herman Hitson - confused!!!
Dave Moore Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 The provenance of the song and it's different variants by different vocalists is told in Issue # 5 of There's That Beat! I think back issues are still available of this issue at THERES THAT BEAT One of Johnny Brantley's finest moments. Great song.
Harry Crosby Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Hi Harry I've seen the offending article. It's an Atlantic vinyl test pressing rather than an acetate: Atlantic logo, laminated white label, neatly typed credits and recording dates. I think James Trouble has or has had another Nate Adams Atlantic TP: the instrumental of Herman Hitson's "Yes You Did": I think he may have got that off Sam. Maybe James can confirm? That's from the same session as his released Atlantic 45, "Why Is It Taking So Long", which is a great cheapie if you don't know it. As to why Richard covered it up, I can only speculate that it was at the insistence of his supplier, presumably John Anderson. Many of these Atlantic TPs are not one-offs, and that would provide a perfectly logical reason to cover this one up. The Herman Hitson version released on CD a few years ago is quite different, definitely a different band take and a much rawer, looser version of the song. It seems to have been producer Johnny Brantley's method to have as many of his stable of artists record as many versions of the songs of his main songwriters, Lewis, Farmer & Lewis as possible. Maybe there are further takes of "Love Slipped Through..." or "You Don't Mean It" by the likes of Lee Moses waiting to be found on shelves somewhere. Here's hoping! Thanks for that gareth very intresting, this clears a few things up for me, as i was under the understanding it was a acetate, and not a TP never actually saw richards copy at the time so as you say this is a logical reason as to why he covered it
Guest Andy Kempster Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Now i`m verrrrry confused this is totally different to the clip i posted, out of refosoul earlier-REGARDS A VERY CONFUSED MR CROSBY thats the version i was referring to in the first post, didnt realise there were more
Philippe Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 I rarely buy CD's, but that one is a must-have ! For me most of the tracks are much better than "Love slipped through my fingers".
Harry Crosby Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 this is not Hermon Hitson Yeh understand that mate,
Guest James Trouble Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) Hi Harry I think James Trouble has or has had another Nate Adams Atlantic TP: the instrumental of Herman Hitson's "Yes You Did": I think he may have got that off Sam. Maybe James can confirm? That's from the same session as his released Atlantic 45, "Why Is It Taking So Long", which is a great cheapie if you don't know it. As to why Richard covered it up, I can only speculate that it was at the insistence of his supplier, presumably John Anderson. Many of these Atlantic TPs are not one-offs, and that would provide a perfectly logical reason to cover this one up. It's Richard Searling's old copy (so I'm told but I've never met the man), via a Ion from Brighton who had had it for an age, I believe. Edited October 8, 2008 by James Trouble
Pete S Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 Hi Harry I've seen the offending article. It's an Atlantic vinyl test pressing rather than an acetate: Atlantic logo, laminated white label, neatly typed credits and recording dates. I think James Trouble has or has had another Nate Adams Atlantic TP: the instrumental of Herman Hitson's "Yes You Did": I think he may have got that off Sam. Maybe James can confirm? That's from the same session as his released Atlantic 45, "Why Is It Taking So Long", which is a great cheapie if you don't know it. As to why Richard covered it up, I can only speculate that it was at the insistence of his supplier, presumably John Anderson. Many of these Atlantic TPs are not one-offs, and that would provide a perfectly logical reason to cover this one up. I've had that Nate Adams for nearly 20 years in fact I cut 3 or 4 of those for people in the late 90's so they are there somewhere. Proper metal acetates they were I never had the record but I had it recorded directly off it.
Garethx Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 I've had that Nate Adams for nearly 20 years in fact I cut 3 or 4 of those for people in the late 90's so they are there somewhere. Proper metal acetates they were I never had the record but I had it recorded directly off it. Hi Pete no doubt genuine metalwork for this exists, but the copy I saw was a totally authentic Atlantic vinyl test pressing and the timing would have predated you getting dubs made. It would be interesting if James could describe his version of "Yes You Did": acetate or test pressing?
Pete S Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 Hi Pete no doubt genuine metalwork for this exists, but the copy I saw was a totally authentic Atlantic vinyl test pressing and the timing would have predated you getting dubs made. It would be interesting if James could describe his version of "Yes You Did": acetate or test pressing? No, I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying it was around a long time ago along with the instrumental version of I Hurt On The Other Side, round about the same time.
Garethx Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 No, I'm not disagreeing with you, just saying it was around a long time ago along with the instrumental version of I Hurt On The Other Side, round about the same time. Hi Pete I've just re-read your comment and it makes perfect sense now.
Guest James Trouble Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 Hi Pete no doubt genuine metalwork for this exists, but the copy I saw was a totally authentic Atlantic vinyl test pressing and the timing would have predated you getting dubs made. It would be interesting if James could describe his version of "Yes You Did": acetate or test pressing? Atlantic acetate
Prophonics 2029 Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 So their are two versions of this record on this thread Nate Adams and Herman Hitson so Sam Williams, Towanda Barnes makes 4 in total.
Guest James Trouble Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 Thanks James. I'll bring it along to Crossfire on Saturday if you want to have a butchers at it and share a chin stroke with me...
Peter99 Posted October 8, 2008 Posted October 8, 2008 Great record - great thread. Really, interesting. Peter
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