Biggest Record On The Northern Scene

[Godzilla]

Dobie Gray-out on the floor

Mark Lloyd-When i'm gonna find her

The very white Dobie Gray

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[stomper45]

Dobie aint grey or white

[Guest east rob]

Good shout Birfday Boy!

way out girl- the construction,( del capris) massive in its time Edited October 9, 2008 by east rob

[Guest Nik Mak]

way out girl- the construction,( del capris) massive in its time

Virtually anything by Paul Anka?

Edited October 9, 2008 by Nik Mak

[Guest NS101]

Mike And Ray-If only you knew on Giant. Anyone mentioned this yet? I loved this but i also loved their Man Without a Woman. I always got the impression that people liked one and not the other or vice versa.

[manus]

The Baltimore & ohio Marching band - Condition red

p.S Helen Shapiro is Half-cast not white as is Kiki dee

I hadn't realised Helen Shapiro was mixed race I'd always thought she was a Jewish girl from the east end of London and a cousin of Cliff Richards.

Manus

[Guest swoz]

WOLVERHAMPTONS VERY OWN

JON FORD...YOU GOT ME WHERE YOU WANT ME. ?

P.J PROBY NIKI HOEKY

Edited October 10, 2008 by swoz

[Mick Holdsworth]

Mike And Ray-If only you knew on Giant. Anyone mentioned this yet? I loved this but i also loved their Man Without a Woman. I always got the impression that people liked one and not the other or vice versa.

Which of course leads us to "Abstract Reality" / "Love Burns Like A Fire"

Cheers

Mick Holdsworth

https://northern-soul-records.com

https://motownsound.co.uk

[pogo paul]

Dobie Gray??

Don't know what i was thinking there? probably Len Barry.

the blokes in the back are white.

Edited October 10, 2008 by pogo paul

[Guest NS101]

Well we got a P.J.Proby Niki that was Twisted Wheel/Torch early type dancer but what about his THATS THE TUNE which was also recorded by the VOGUES. Both versions were top notch. But here's a little story going back to the mid 70s. I've never forgotten it because at the time it was so funny.

Both versions used to get played in the midlands and i think it was off LP for Mr Proby and off 7inch for the Vogues. The latter was found in quantity and that pretty much killed it spins-wise.

So there i was in the Wolves Social Club (maybe 1974-1977, i dunno which year, but it hardly matters cos i aint too good with years or an anorack and over 30+ years ago) for one of their friday night soul do's. As is the chat it's always about records. The one guy is going on about how much the Vogues is superior to the P.J.Proby version because they are black and that's what NS is all about.

Nuff said yeah??

(Vogues are white just incase you missed that point)

[Hitsville Chalky]

Stuart Avig - King for a day / Oh Angelina Angelina

[Guest NS101]

Are we sure this is a white guy, thought he was black???

What a tune tho. Just heard it again for the first time since gawd knows when. Was this CU at some point early days? I think i heard it on a JM tape but do not recall. Do any copies ever turn up? Is it a 2 grand single single still. Does it get played anywhere? I do like it lots and lots.

[Paul R]

Well we got a P.J.Proby Niki that was Twisted Wheel/Torch early type dancer but what about his THATS THE TUNE which was also recorded by the VOGUES. Both versions were top notch. But here's a little story going back to the mid 70s. I've never forgotten it because at the time it was so funny.

Both versions used to get played in the midlands and i think it was off LP for Mr Proby and off 7inch for the Vogues. The latter was found in quantity and that pretty much killed it spins-wise.

So there i was in the Wolves Social Club (maybe 1974-1977, i dunno which year, but it hardly matters cos i aint too good with years or an anorack and over 30+ years ago) for one of their friday night soul do's. As is the chat it's always about records. The one guy is going on about how much the Vogues is superior to the P.J.Proby version because they are black and that's what NS is all about.

Nuff said yeah??

(Vogues are white just incase you missed that point)

Didn't Frank Elson in his B&S Column rave about the Vogues one week saying it sounded like a cross between Bobby Bland & ?(someone else just as black soulfull etc.,I can't remember who the other artist was)

Paul

[Soul-slider]

Stuart Avig - King for a day / Oh Angelina Angelina

Stuart Ames......white?? Are you sure? Hard to tell on this one.

What about Solomon King....

Edited October 11, 2008 by Soul-Slider

[shute]

Stuart Ames......white?? Are you sure? Hard to tell on this one.

Yeah ! Hitsville C had met him on one of his travels to Detroit and ended up back at his house, where he gave the record to him......... nice

[Soul-slider]

Yeah ! Hitsville C had met him on one of his travels to Detroit and ended up back at his house, where he gave the record to him......... nice

Nice one!

[Garethx]

I hadn't realised Helen Shapiro was mixed race I'd always thought she was a Jewish girl from the east end of London and a cousin of Cliff Richards.

Manus

Helen Shapiro is definitely not of mixed race.

Edited October 11, 2008 by garethx

[manus]

Helen Shapiro is definitely not of mixed race.

Yes indeed - that's was what I meant but I was being polite

might have been better if you had qouted Ernie's original statement

Cheers Manus

Edited October 11, 2008 by manus

[Garethx]

My apologies Manus if it appeared that I was contradicting you rather than EA.

[manus]

My apologies Manus if it appeared that I was contradicting you rather than EA.

No problem Gareth My apologies for leaping in .

Cheers Manus

[Soul-slider]

Don't know what i was thinking there? probably Len Barry.

the blokes in the back are white.

Re Dobie Gray: I know exactly what you were thinking pogo....'Drift Away' (his big hit) is such a white sounding m.o.r tune!!! During the 70's when I saw the singer of that song I was shocked!

[Lenny Harkins]

LOUIS PAUL - A CHANGE WILL DO YOU GOOD, Quite a new thing i know, but big and white all the same

[Eddie Hubbard]

Kris Peterson - Just as much [ Top Dog ] One of the most Soulful records by a white Soulstress .Best ,Eddie

[Davetay]

Kris Peterson - Just as much [ Top Dog ] One of the most Soulful records by a white Soulstress .Best ,Eddie

I didn,t know she was white, always loved it great record

[Guest carl_p]

Kelly Michaels is white but i am curious if anyone knows if the "soul incorporated" is a white or black group?

[Ady Potts]

how about Ted Wilson?

No. I think you'll find he's Al Wilsons brother (Eddie).

Edited October 12, 2008 by pottsy

[Guest Nik Mak]

thank you toad, not heard this for over 20 years! you needed to be on your toes dancing to this! what about the stomper "born a loser" don ray?

Rufus Lumley 'I'm standing' Holton. Or Rufus Lumley 'Stronger than me' RCA. (LP only.) ?????

[Guest]

Rufus Lumley 'I'm standing' Holton. Or Rufus Lumley 'Stronger than me' RCA. (LP only.) ?????

We all seem to have put our two pence worth in on this subject , in respect of what was the greatest recording by a white artist , to be played on the scene .......

Is there a way that someone - our esteemed leader Mike perhaps - can put a voting form on the forum , in which the people on SS can nominate their choice , so that we will - eventually - have a decision as to what was the top title ? ........

Malc Burton

[Guest john s]

We all seem to have put our two pence worth in on this subject , in respect of what was the greatest recording by a white artist , to be played on the scene .......

Is there a way that someone - our esteemed leader Mike perhaps - can put a voting form on the forum , in which the people on SS can nominate their choice , so that we will - eventually - have a decision as to what was the top title ? ........

Malc Burton

I thought the question was 'biggest', not 'greatest' or 'my favourite'.

[Coops]

JOEY HEATHERTON,

When You Call Me Baby / Live & Learn DECCA

31962 DJ PS 45 £200.00 (thanks manny for that quote)

& james walsh's gypsey band

[Jez Jones]

I thought the question was 'biggest', not 'greatest' or 'my favourite'.

Ah well then---- think of the biggest records on the scene in the last 12 months and multiply the impact on the 'scene' they had by say 5 or 10 and you have..............

Mr Posts catchy little number about a rhino!

For a 3/6 month period in '73 probably every major northern soul venue in the land had a rammed dance floor when that was played. not many folks sat around talking when that b*stard came on

[Guest soulful ady]

Not seen these yet,what about FEARNS BRASS FOUNDRY "DON'T CHANGE IT"..Sure they were a Leicester based group..

[Ady Croasdell]

how about Ted Wilson?

Al Wilson's brother; so pretty black.

Danny Monday and Bobby Wisdom

Edited October 15, 2008 by ady croasdell

[Ady Croasdell]

Not seen these yet,what about FEARNS BRASS FOUNDRY "DON'T CHANGE IT"..Sure they were a Leicester based group..

How dare you sir; Steve was a Market Harborian, though his foundry probably emanated from Less-toh!

[Guest Dave Turner]

Wigan's Ovation

Sorry about that, I'll just fcuk off shall I

[Mach]

Wigan's Ovation

Sorry about that, I'll just fcuk off shall I

[Soulman]

There is no contest. Judy (Street) Corner "What". Rare release, rare label, HB Barnum production...perfect northern soul and, as far as I'm concerned, colour just doesn't enter into it. She's a wonderful woman.

[Guest Awake 502]

Cant believe no one has mentioned THE biggest track....

Outsiders / "Lonely man" aka Detroit Shakers / "Help me find my way"

this was HUGE !!

[SteveM]

Cant believe no one has mentioned THE biggest track....

Outsiders / "Lonely man" aka Detroit Shakers / "Help me find my way"

this was HUGE !!

Not read all way through this thread Darran, but its got to be Paul Anka surely ?

If not anything from Wigan , then maybe Timi Yuro ?

[Jez Jones]

Not read all way through this thread Darran, but its got to be Paul Anka surely ?

If not anything from Wigan , then maybe Timi Yuro ?

Belated Lee david entry

[Citizen P]

Worrabout the dreaded " Cherry People"????????

Sorry

Tony

[sid jones]

what about

charlie gracie-hell never love you like i do-diamond

john and paul-im walkin-tip

boss four-walkin by-rim

christy allen-walk tall like a man-diamond

joan baker-evreybodys talkin-diamond

sid

[Guest micky p]

love is after me-charlie ritch and i have got a good tune from,wait for it ,david essex ! laugh if you want ! pure white voice but i like it,have a listen.

micky p wallsend

site note

mp3 dropped

can you use the refosoul feature for posting clips

[Guest]

Was COURT DAVIS white?

Yes Court Davis is white. He's my older brother.

[Prophonics 2029]

Yes Court Davis is white. He's my older brother.

Hi Craigaa52 that's the singer of the record Try To Think, do you have a picture of him you would like to post up of the great man.

What is his real name?

[Prophonics 2029]

There is no contest. Judy (Street) Corner "What". Rare release, rare label, HB Barnum production...perfect northern soul and, as far as I'm concerned, colour just doesn't enter into it. She's a wonderful woman.

HB said he wrote the song for somebody really famous but they turned it down Sandi Shaw or somebody I have it listed somewhere. could be Petula Clark

Edited December 10, 2008 by Prophonics 2029

[De-to]

sorry if its been posted up before,but how about tony blackburns northern biggie,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDtXEgXetco

[Tabs]

Petula Clarke from my aging memory?

HB said he wrote the song for somebody really famous but they turned it down Sandi Shaw or somebody I have it listed somewhere.

[Guest Brett F]

Sir Alf Ramsey and The Ipswich Town Football Club.....and their cracking version of Billy Butlers....."The Right Track"

[Prophonics 2029]

Petula Clarke from my aging memory?

That,s her, I was surprised to find out she was born in November 1932 and entertained people during the war.

Born November 15, with "a voice as sweet as chapel bells," Petula Clark first broke into the limelight during World War II when as a child she entertained the troops, both on radio and in concert. She is said to have performed in over 200 shows for the forces all over England before the age of nine and by war's end, Petula Clark--the British "Shirley Temple" who had come to represent childhood itself--was so popular in England she was asked to sing at a national victory celebration at Trafalgar Square. In 1944, Petula made her first movie and has since appeared in over 30 British and American films.

Throughout the forties and fifties Petula was a regular guest on a vast number of radio shows and became something of a television "pioneer" in England, first appearing on experimental TV in the forties and later as host of several of her own television series during the very early years of British programming, with Pet's Parlour being her longest running and most popular. Although she sang regularly in concert, on radio and TV all through the forties, it wasn't until 1949 that she recorded her first song Music, Music, Music and that pretty much sums up her very prolific recording career.

She has never stopped recording " 50 plus years and over a 1,000 songs and still counting! Her first hits were children's songs like Where Did My Snowman Go (1952) and The Little Shoemaker (1954). To date, she has sold well in excess of 68 million records.

In answer to the rock-and-roll craze of the late fifties, Petula recorded Sailor, Romeo and My Friend The Sea and was back on the charts again. In 1957, she was invited to sing at the famed Olympia theatre in France. After one song the French crowd went wild, and an entirely new career was launched.

Asked to record in French, Petula declined at first but was quickly persuaded to do so by Frenchman Claude Wolff with whom she fell madly in love - they were married in June 1961. (They have three children, daughters Barbara and Catherine and son Patrick and a granddaughter and grandson.) By the early sixties, Petula found herself reinvented as a French chanteuse, even rivaling the legendary Piaf--during Piaf's own lifetime. (She is still classified as a "French" singer

on the shelves in French and French-Canadian record stores.) In addition to her newfound French pop star status, Petula also began to enjoy success with the songs that she had begun to record in German and Italian. By the mid-sixties she'd established herself as superstar throughout Europe with Number One tunes sung in different languages in different countries all across the Continent. (Interesting to note, each of her early European hits were with entirely different songs--a feat not duplicated by any other singer since!)

Urged by her friends in Britain to record something in English, Petula allowed Tony Hatch to visit her in Paris where he presented his new song, Downtown. Petula recorded it and the rest is music history. Downtown skyrocketed to number 1 in the USA, launching Petula's American career and earning her a Grammy in 1964. She quickly followed with I Know A Place which went to number 3 and earned Petula her second Grammy in 1965. Numerous top 40 hits followed. All told, Pet has had 15 top 40 hits in the USA (two #1 hits). Internationally, Petula Clark has charted in the top 40 somewhere, sometime, with 159 recordings!