Dennisoul Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) My copy of Darrell Banks...Our Love....Revilot.....styrene and not stamped. Is it a boot? It has ZTSC-107682-3C scratched in the dead wax cheers, Andy Edited June 20, 2013 by 45cellar Artist Tag
Haydn Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 My copy of Darrell Banks...Our Love....Revilot.....styrene and not stamped. Is it a boot? cheers, Andy Weird that its styrene and not stamped Andy, stumped! I thought the boot was in vinyl only, am curious. H
Dennisoul Posted October 6, 2008 Author Posted October 6, 2008 Weird that its styrene and not stamped Andy, stumped! I thought the boot was in vinyl only, am curious. H Hi Haydn..been wonderin for a while now. It has ZTSC-107682-3C scratched in the dead wax.
Steve G Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) That LOOKS like a boot done in the 70s at the same time as Rose Batiste. Edited October 6, 2008 by Steve G
45cellar Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) My copy of Darrell Banks...Our Love....Revilot.....styrene and not stamped. Is it a boot? It has ZTSC-107682-3C scratched in the dead wax cheers, Andy Hi Andy I am currently preparing some scans, I believe that this one is OK Will explain in a moment -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First thing to say is that "Hit & Run" does have the Stamped ZTSC Matrix and is on Styrene.(As mentioned in another Post. >>> LINK <<<) & IT SHOULD HAVE, & Boots / Counterfeits are on Vinyl.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whereas the Revilot White DEMO here hasn't. It is Styrene & has a Scratched Matrix. I purchased them from Soul Bowl & They are Originals. Edited October 6, 2008 by 45cellar
Steve G Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 I was looking at that horrible off red colour. Those 70s boots were largely vinyl as I remember. If it's styrene does it have a Bell Sound / Nashville Matrix or Delta number I wonder?
45cellar Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) My copy of Darrell Banks...Our Love....Revilot.....styrene and not stamped. Is it a boot? It has ZTSC-107682-3C scratched in the dead wax cheers, Andy The next thing is that FIRST Stock Copies of this record are on a Grey Label.They are ALL on Styrene.The Fact that your copy is Styrene suggests to me that it is OK.This record has a 2nd Issue on a Pink Revilot Label and I have scanned my copy below. As you can see, One side has a STAMPED Matrix & the other has a Scratched Matrix. This record has Sold many copies over the years, and when it gets to the Re-Issue Stage things can change. If anyone was to go to the trouble of Counterfeiting, I would have thought that they would have gone for the DEMO or First Stock Copy and NOT the 2nd Issue. Edited October 6, 2008 by 45cellar
45cellar Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) My copy of Darrell Banks...Our Love....Revilot.....styrene and not stamped. Is it a boot? It has ZTSC-107682-3C scratched in the dead wax cheers, Andy I was looking at that horrible off red colour. Those 70s boots were largely vinyl as I remember. If it's styrene does it have a Bell Sound / Nashville Matrix or Delta number I wonder? I know what you mean about the Colour, here is the Same Record using my Old Scanner. Guessing that it is the scan settings? Edited October 6, 2008 by 45cellar
Dennisoul Posted October 6, 2008 Author Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks Roger for the very concise info, much appreciated cheers, Andy
Kris Holmes Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I can attest that this 45 gets really difficult when trying to analyse the pink label variations. I have 3 copies on pink & they are all different from each other & none of mine are the "stamped matrix on one side" version pictured above so there are at least 4 variants on the pink label.
Blunny Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 The next thing is that FIRST Stock Copies of this record are on a Grey Label.They are ALL on Styrene.The Fact that your copy is Styrene suggests to me that it is OK.This record has a 2nd Issue on a Pink Revilot Label and I have scanned my copy below. Only just spotted this thread and it is of interest, many thanks. I have a Grey label first issue stock copy that is Styrene with scratched in matrix. I have always assumed that it was a genuine issue (as I've never been aware of the Grey one being booted). I have recently been considering getting a Pink issue copy to compliment it, so this information is very helpfull. Cheers.
45cellar Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I can attest that this 45 gets really difficult when trying to analyse the pink label variations. I have 3 copies on pink & they are all different from each other & none of mine are the "stamped matrix on one side" version pictured above so there are at least 4 variants on the pink label. Only just spotted this thread and it is of interest, many thanks. I have a Grey label first issue stock copy that is Styrene with scratched in matrix. I have always assumed that it was a genuine issue (as I've never been aware of the Grey one being booted). I have recently been considering getting a Pink issue copy to compliment it, so this information is very helpfull. Cheers. Thanks for your Support in this Forum, I am in the process of Including more records of Interest. I have recently been sorting the whole of my collection into Alphabetical Order by Label, makes things a lot easier to access for scans.
Kris Holmes Posted September 14, 2010 Posted September 14, 2010 New Zealand press. This just came up on auction locally this week so I swiped the pic from there, hence the fuzziness. Not a common variation these days.
Kris Holmes Posted July 4, 2012 Posted July 4, 2012 possible confirmation of a grey label copy on vinyl
Chris L Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 My copy of Darrell Banks...Our Love....Revilot.....styrene and not stamped. Is it a boot? It has ZTSC-107682-3C scratched in the dead wax cheers, Andy I know this was a while ago but rest assured it's an original. If it's styrene your safe, the Rose Batiste boot is in vinyl, that's how to tell. I have also some Okeh on styrene given to me by one of their arrangers in Los Angeles, the matrix numbers are scratched not stamped, don't bamboozled by famous names. I have yet to meet the person who knows it all (some are close though ) Good luck
Garethx Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 Red labels and pink labels are notoriously difficult to scan (as opposed to photograph) and get consistent colour representation. Perhaps anyone on here in printing can explain why.
Chris L Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 New Zealand press. This just came up on auction locally this week so I swiped the pic from there, hence the fuzziness. Not a common variation these days. "Our love pocket" B side ?
Chris L Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 New Zealand press. This just came up on auction locally this week so I swiped the pic from there, hence the fuzziness. Not a common variation these days. He may just be coming to New Zealand to tour https://www.ticketmaster.co.nz/Darrell-Banks-tickets/artist/1493684
Dave Pinch Posted March 20, 2013 Posted March 20, 2013 made no 27 on the pop charts so they most likely used other pressing plants
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