Suspect its one o' them rhetorical questions because I've never seen a "2 Shields" issue. Secondary question: was there ever an issue label designed, and if so would it have followed the East Coast orange/white design.

All speculation - anyone confirm or deny?

Cheers

Pete

Hi Pete

Im sure a yellow parkway issues, Ive defo seen one somewhere

but for the life of me I cant remember what or who it was.

but IM 100% SURE IVE SEEN ONE SOMEWHERE

BUT THEN AGIN..IM NORMALLY MINCED

remember seeing a west coast issue of bunny sigler - follow your heart in a sales box recently, styrene vinyl and lable was shiny and light brown in colour also a totally different design to normal east coast philly parkway releases.

BRI PINCH.

I can't find one either.

Nothing like this but with the harps.

Edited October 5, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

  GASHER said:

Hi Pete

Im sure a yellow parkway issues, Ive defo seen one somewhere

but for the life of me I cant remember what or who it was.

but IM 100% SURE IVE SEEN ONE SOMEWHERE

BUT THEN AGIN..IM NORMALLY MINCED

Could it have been that Nikki Blu boot (might be wrong but think that was plain yellow)

Paul

  Prophonics 2029 said:

I can't find one either.

Nothing like this but with the harps.

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THE ONE I SAW PAUL NEWTON / SOULGALORE RECORDS HE HAD THE BUNNY SIGLER IN HIS SALES BOX A WHILE AGO. SAME TYPEFACE AS THE WEST COAST WHITE DEMO AS ABOVE BUT A LIGHT BROWN COLOURED LABLE WITH PARKWAY WRITTEN IN FANCY WRITING IN A BIG HARP.

BRI PINCH

Sure my mate Billy Foster from Burnley picked up a Bunny Sigler-Girl Don't make me wait-on a strange looking Parkway design recently-remember talking for a while about it as neither of us had seen a copy like that before. Looked real nice

cheers

Kev Moore

  Prophonics 2029 said:

I can't find one either.

Nothing like this but with the harps.

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Me Neither, these 3 all West Coast Styrene, all have Harps Missing.

Don't know if all (DO THE) DISCOTHEQUE are Styrene, I think I have seen a DEMO listed.

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by 45cellar

  Imogen said:

Sure my mate Billy Foster from Burnley picked up a Bunny Sigler-Girl Don't make me wait-on a strange looking Parkway design recently-remember talking for a while about it as neither of us had seen a copy like that before. Looked real nice

cheers

Kev Moore

These are my copies of "Girl Don't Make Me Wait"

  bri pinch said:

remember seeing a west coast issue of bunny sigler - follow your heart in a sales box recently, styrene vinyl and lable was shiny and light brown in colour also a totally different design to normal east coast philly parkway releases.

BRI PINCH.

Saw this one on ebay a while back, was this the one..

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by 45cellar

I have a few of these and it looks like they double up with the red and orange star.

Also these two have a Frank Ford Wayne stamp and the orange star has an Audiomatrix stamp.

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

  Prophonics 2029 said:

I have a few of these and it looks like they double up with the red and orange star.

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Yes, Parkway Label Design change.

This one has 2 Matrix on it, Including the "AudioMatrix"

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by 45cellar

Demo and issue but different number same B-side.

  Prophonics 2029 said:

Demo and issue but different number same B-side.

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Two releases for this one as well.

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by 45cellar

  45cellar said:

Saw this one on ebay a while back, was this the one..

A much later design from 1968 ish?

Thats nice compared to my blunt half pressed Audiomatrix

This one has 2 Matrix on it, Including the "AudioMatrix"

Thats nice compared to my blunt half pressed Audiomatrix

This one has 2 Matrix on it, Including the "AudioMatrix"

  45cellar said:

Saw this one on ebay a while back, was this the one..

yes, thats the one roger. not a later issue but the contemporary issue to the styrene west coast white demo.

BRI PINCH.

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by bri pinch

  bri pinch said:

yes, thats the one roger. not a later issue but the contemporary issue to the styrene west coast white demo.

BRI PINCH.

I've got other ones like that, demos, Simms Twins, olympics being two that spring to mind - they were the last releases on the label weren't they?

MGM distributing

Edited October 7, 200816 yr by Steve G

  45cellar said:

Saw this one on ebay a while back, was this the one..

Thats the label design for Bunnys LP (Let The Good Times Roll)

Cheers Paul

  45cellar said:

These are my copies of "Girl Don't Make Me Wait"

The one on the right is the one I saw with Billy-he thought it was a much harder copy!!!!maybe?????

  Imogen said:

The one on the right is the one I saw with Billy-he thought it was a much harder copy!!!!maybe?????

You raise an Interesting Point here. I haven't seen many of these 2 below.

(Especially The West Coast Stock Copy)

WEST COAST

PopSike.com

PopSike.com

Edited October 8, 200816 yr by 45cellar

  Imogen said:

The one on the right is the one I saw with Billy-he thought it was a much harder copy!!!!maybe?????

EAST COAST

PopSike.com

  Imogen said:

The one on the right is the one I saw with Billy-he thought it was a much harder copy!!!!maybe?????

Question is, was there a DEMO for this one, and which format of any variation is rarer.

Personally I have seen a few more of this Stock Copy, could be chance though.

Sometimes happens like that.

Edited October 8, 200816 yr by 45cellar

  45cellar said:

Question is, was there a DEMO for this one, and which format of any variation is rarer.

Personally I have seen a few more of this Stock Copy, could be chance though.

Sometimes happens like that.

Flippin eck this is way more complex than I first envisaged. So, summarising all of the above, am I right in saying that:

1) no W Coast issues incporated the "2 shields" design (or "harps" as otherwise described)?

2) So the "uneven font 2 shields" design can only be seen on W Coast white demos?

3) the W Coast dark orange outer / yellow inner designs had both demo & issue releases?; and

4) there was a late 60s mucky yellow design (but apparently only seen on "Follow My Heart")?

Cheers

Pete

  chorleybloke said:

4) there was a late 60s mucky yellow design (but apparently only seen on "Follow My Heart")?

Cheers

Pete

Same design (with the sloping "P") used on other late releases - Simms, Olympics etc.

  chorleybloke said:

Flippin eck this is way more complex than I first envisaged. So, summarising all of the above, am I right in saying that:

1) no W Coast issues incporated the "2 shields" design (or "harps" as otherwise described)?

A) That would be a demo.

2) So the "uneven font 2 shields" design can only be seen on W Coast white demos?

A) Yes but you can get them on issues as well at the top left and right.

3) the W Coast dark orange outer / yellow inner designs had both demo & issue releases?; and

A) Yes they do, but the spirals as well may have east coast west coast press just a different mastering plant.

4) there was a late 60s mucky yellow design (but apparently only seen on "Follow My Heart")?

A) Its actualy green-silver-bronze-goldish.

Cheers

Pete

Edited October 8, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

Interestingly this parkway is distributed by of all companeys MGM

  Prophonics 2029 said:

Interestingly this parkway is distributed by of all companeys MGM

yeah read above. They distributed the label at the end c. 1968

To be honest, This is the only West Coast Parkway "2 shields" styrene 45 I have ever owned , This is a "monarch" stamp with the "54132" delta making it 1964 - I have never seen another real west coast promo of this 45 (APART FROM THE BOOTLEG WHICH HAD THIS TYPE OF LABEL BUT IS VINYL I BELIEVE)

Has anyone else got a styrene / monarch pressed "Tymes" Demo ?? I have been told it that is a really rare way to own it ?

All my other parkway bits are vinyl !

And I have never seen an orange styrene issue with this sort of label design.

Best M

  mossy said:

To be honest, This is the only West Coast Parkway "2 shields" styrene 45 I have ever owned , This is a "monarch" stamp with the "54132" delta making it 1964 - I have never seen another real west coast promo of this 45 (APART FROM THE BOOTLEG WHICH HAD THIS TYPE OF LABEL BUT IS VINYL I BELIEVE)

Has anyone else got a styrene / monarch pressed "Tymes" Demo ?? I have been told it that is a really rare way to own it ?

All my other parkway bits are vinyl !

And I have never seen an orange styrene issue with this sort of label design.

Best M

Hi Mossy what's the b-side my 933 plays the other track?

With the same B-side on both the ones above.

Edited October 8, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

  Prophonics 2029 said:

Hi Mossy what's the b-side my 933 plays the other track?

With the same B-side on both the ones above.

"Twelfth of never" on the (A) side monarch stamp 54528 - which meant the West coast demo 45 came out October 64 promoting the "12th of never" with a miss- press of "here she comes" on the b side ! - but not on them all !

then the West Coast issue came to be !!

So then they messed up big time and changed the stamper for "here she comes" leaving the issue labels on the machine but pressing our fav dancer northern tune by mistake !!! So we have mis-pressed demos and different and mis-pressed issues then?

So definatley both very intresting and rare 45s IMO ???

Edited October 9, 200816 yr by mossy

  Prophonics 2029 said:

Hi Mossy what's the b-side my 933 plays the other track?

With the same B-side on both the ones above.

Hang on ............wait a minuite !

If I am right then (John Manship will know) every styrene copy of "The Tymes" is a fecking result!

Either it is the rare never seen mis-pressed demo of "here she comes" or it is the mis-pressed issue with our top tune on !

all the vinyls are early 64 normal issues and demos !

No.......... they corrected the flip of "12th of never" demo and issue- I just checked !

So they are both Rare Intresting West coast mis - presses !

Edited October 9, 200816 yr by mossy

I have the 12 of never on both so 933 must be right on your demo copy and only the issue plays the other tune?

Edited October 9, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029