can anyone help, am looking for a track by scratch and the upsetters called barbed wire (in his underpants) have a version by nora dean. used to play this at local youth club late 60s early 70s, not heard it since, cheers barney

  barney said:

can anyone help, am looking for a track by scratch and the upsetters called barbed wire (in his underpants) have a version by nora dean. used to play this at local youth club late 60s early 70s, not heard it since, cheers barney

Thats the one you want - Nora Dean - don't think it has any Upsetters connection at all

  Pete S said:

Thats the one you want - Nora Dean - don't think it has any Upsetters connection at all

Prefer...........MESHWIRE - Winston Wright/Tommy McCook. Instrumental........

Played it Friday Night along with a few others at.............

https://z3.invisionfree.com/Yorkshire_Allia...=4446&st=15

Edited November 10, 200816 yr by the dukester

From Tapir's:

TR 7735 Nora Dean - Barbwire // The Barons - Calypso Mama

Produced by: Byron Smith

1970

Uses Duke Reid's rhythm for the Techniques' YOU DON'T CARE (1967), which is a version of an old Soul or R&B song, which I don't have and can't remember what it is.

I don't care much for BARBWIRE - I don't like Nora Dean's whining voice on this one and do prefer MESHWIRE, or indeed the B side of the DJ piece (Dennis Alcapone's THE GREAT WOGGIE). Although BUTTERCUP (VERSION) is credited to Dennis Alcapone, it's actually Tommy McCook & the Supersonics.

And it isn't the same as I CARE (by Ronald Wilson) UK Punch PH100 (1972), which although is an instrumental, is a later version of the same rhythm. The A side of Punch PH100 is called BUTTERCUP and is by Winston Scotland - another DJ piece to YOU DON'T CARE, although on this later version of the rjhythm.

Shall I get my coat now?

When I do commercial type nights you can guarantee someone will come up & say "Can you play some reggae mate?!?" So I always start with the same 4, "Double Barrel" then mix that towards the end into "Nuclear Weapon", then I wack on "Barbwire". Instantly as soon as the lyrics hit the girlie dancers ears you get the smiles & giggles from them, & a little blushing, so then I give it to 'em, "Wet Dream" !

PS

I reckon Barb Wire must have done a bit of good round these parts when it came out, I've found 3 copies round the bootsales/market over the last 3 or 4 years.

  pottsy said:

When I do commercial type nights you can guarantee someone will come up & say "Can you play some reggae mate?!?" So I always start with the same 4, "Double Barrel" then mix that towards the end into "Nuclear Weapon", then I wack on "Barbwire". Instantly as soon as the lyrics hit the girlie dancers ears you get the smiles & giggles from them, & a little blushing, so then I give it to 'em, "Wet Dream" !

now you have mentioned double barrell im going to listen to it

chris

I absolutely love Barbwire and have since the first time I heard it in 72. You Don't Care is maybe the greatest rocksteady record of all. (Version of Major Lance - You'll Want Me Back). I don't like Meshwire as much as the others, love the Alcapone versions though.

  FrostyJak said:

Was gonna ask about this version Wot year is it from ?

I always thought it was just a rework by Nora Dean

1973- MINES ON USA STUDIO ONE 45

  Chris-od said:

now you have mentioned double barrell im going to listen to it

chris

Forgive me if this is already well-known, but DOUBLE BARREL was based on this:

  TOAD said:

1973- MINES ON USA STUDIO ONE 45

Thanks for the info Tim Dare ya ta play it at The Oakley later

  ZapatootheTiger said:

Forgive me if this is already well-known, but DOUBLE BARREL was based on this:

ANY CHANCE OF A SOUND CLIP PLEASE??

CHRIS

Not forgetting Dennis Alcapone - El Paso - JA Supreme

  ZapatootheTiger said:

From Tapir's:

TR 7735 Nora Dean - Barbwire // The Barons - Calypso Mama

Produced by: Byron Smith

1970

Uses Duke Reid's rhythm for the Techniques' YOU DON'T CARE (1967), which is a version of an old Soul or R&B song, which I don't have and can't remember what it is.

I don't care much for BARBWIRE - I don't like Nora Dean's whining voice on this one and do prefer MESHWIRE, or indeed the B side of the DJ piece (Dennis Alcapone's THE GREAT WOGGIE). Although BUTTERCUP (VERSION) is credited to Dennis Alcapone, it's actually Tommy McCook & the Supersonics.

And it isn't the same as I CARE (by Ronald Wilson) UK Punch PH100 (1972), which although is an instrumental, is a later version of the same rhythm. The A side of Punch PH100 is called BUTTERCUP and is by Winston Scotland - another DJ piece to YOU DON'T CARE, although on this later version of the rjhythm.

Shall I get my coat now?

  Chris-od said:

ANY CHANCE OF A SOUND CLIP PLEASE??

CHRIS

Sure thing, Chris - I had a sample up on putfile, but I can't get on there and haven't been able to, for the last few days.

Technology permitting, I'll sort it out with the Soca we "spoke" about

  nij flood said:

Not forgetting Dennis Alcapone - El Paso - JA Supreme

I only got that version recently on Heartbeat's re-issue of the FOREVER VERSION album - I remembered it from when I was a lad, but had forgotten all about it

Dennis A also did an updated re-cut for Roy Shirley (who died in June this year) in 1976 - it's quite OK: