Previously Unissued Material

[Harrogatesoul]

So there's the raging debate on OVO thread but what about the music eh?

No arguments about OVO etc and should they/should they not be played out (I know my humble opinion) but how about a look at some of the fantastic unreleased tracks on legit labels that have found favour whether on the dancefloor or at home. Label owners / publishing companies feel free to promote and give us a taste of what may be to come!

Will kick off with a couple of easy ones:

Gloria Shannon - Tears (Are A Gift From Heaven) - REALSIDE

Dottie Pearson - Bring It Over Baby / House Made Of Love - Grapevine

There's plenty out there without having to resort to the same old boots / oldies. Plenty of recent releases but what about forgotten ones?

Rich

Edited September 23, 2008 by harrogatesoul

[Dave Rimmer]

So there's the raging debate on OVO thread but what about the music eh?

No arguments about OVO etc and should they/should they not be played out (I know my humble opinion) but how about a look at some of the fantastic unreleased tracks on legit labels that have found favour whether on the dancefloor or at home. Label owners / publishing companies feel free to promote and give us a taste of what may be to come!

Will kick off with a couple of easy ones:

Gloria Shannon - Tears (Are A Gift From Heaven) - REALSIDE

Dottie Pearson - Bring It Over Baby / House Made Of Love - Grapevine

There's plenty out there without having to resort to the same old boots / oldies. Plenty of recent releases but what about forgotten ones?

Rich

Isn't the title of the thread a contradiction ! Surely if they are on legit 45s, they are no longer unreleased material.

[Harrogatesoul]

Oh ok - Previously unreleased material issued on legitimate 45s and not bootlegs for the first time. Hows that? Or do we always have to enter into a debate rather than actually talking about the music which is why we're all here in the first place? I give up sometimes.

[Trev Thomas]

the servicemen - i'll stop loving you - grapevine 2000

[Prophonics 2029]

Oh ok - Previously unreleased material issued on legitimate 45s and not bootlegs for the first time. Hows that? Or do we always have to enter into a debate rather than actually talking about the music which is why we're all here in the first place? I give up sometimes.

Err what's it about again I didn't catch that 70ts or 20ts Y2K.

[Harrogatesoul]

Whatever the decade I'm not bothered - But just thought we'd stick to the trusty loved 45 format. Plenty to go around....

[Peter99]

Err what's it about again I didn't catch that 70ts or 20ts Y2K.

I got it mate!

[Guest Paul]

Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine)

Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent)

Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine)

Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun)

Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out (Soul Junction)

Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine)

Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun)

Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside)

Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine)

Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction)

The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine)

Johnnie Taylor - Please Let Me In (Kent) ?

Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine)

Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy)

Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine)

[Harrogatesoul]

Thanks Paul - Some real highlights there (including your very own) - Sam Dees being an obvious highlight personally.

A lot issued in the 21st century but how about any early ones? Did anyone start the ball rolling so to speak or is a later soul phenomenon?

Rich

[Guest Paul]

Thanks Paul - Some real highlights there (including your very own) - Sam Dees being an obvious highlight personally.

A lot issued in the 21st century but how about any early ones? Did anyone start the ball rolling so to speak or is a later soul phenomenon?

Rich

Hello Rich,

I'd say The Contours "Baby Hit And Run" is a classic example.

Regards,

Paul

[Trev Thomas]

i would have thought betty boo - say it isn't so on grapevine would have been one of the first

[Harrogatesoul]

Of course - I didn't realise that was unissued till I read it on the other thread. Always assumed it was LP track.

Rich

[Guest Paul]

Of course - I didn't realise that was unissued till I read it on the other thread. Always assumed it was LP track.

Rich

I can't be certain, Rich, because it was a long time ago, but I thought it was previously unissued.

Anyone know for sure?

Paul

[Guest topcatnumpty1]

I can't be certain, Rich, because it was a long time ago, but I thought it was previously unissued.

Anyone know for sure?

Paul

Betty Boo defo previously unreleased(as my learned friends have said) found at the same time as --Spaceland,Hanky Panky,Down in the dumps--all came from Popcorn Wylie(direct) to John Anderson the 1 st. came out on the Yellow Grapevine L.P.

Paul--p.m ed. you

Tony COLEBY

[Guest Paul]

Betty Boo defo previously unreleased(as my learned friends have said) found at the same time as --Spaceland,Hanky Panky,Down in the dumps--all came from Popcorn Wylie(direct) to John Anderson the 1 st. came out on the Yellow Grapevine L.P.

Paul--p.m ed. you

Tony COLEBY

Thanks Tony,

I was thinking more about The Contours on Tamla Motown. That may have been one of the first examples. If it was previously unissued, can anyone remember what year it was issued on TMG?

I have 1974 in my mind but I'm not sure.

Best regards,

Paul

[Guest Paul]

List updated...

Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine)

Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent)

Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine)

Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun)

Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out (Soul Junction)

Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine)

Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun)

Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside)

Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine)

Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction)

The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine)

Johnnie Taylor - Please Let Me In (Kent) ?

Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine)

Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy)

Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine)

Primers - How Does It Grab You (Kent)

Contours - Baby Hit And Run (Tamla Motown)

[Sean Hampsey]

Aleshure "Shower The World" Phoenix

Chuck Jackson "What's With This Loneliness" Kent

Sean

[Chalky]

List updated...

Primers - How Does It Grab You (Kent)

Unissued? Was origianlly issued as a 45 on Hale.

[Dennisoul]

Hello Rich,

I'd say The Contours "Baby Hit And Run" is a classic example.

Regards,

Paul

Paul, is the Contours track only on the MFP lp, always loved this...didn`t know this was its only issue.

Absolutely okay in my book to play the likes of the Servicemen..I`ll stop loving you..Grapevine..Wonderful track!!! and also all those lovely other previously unissued sounds...Theres no other way to hear them!!!

I wish more of these previously unissued items were played out,

Imagine what a soul nite that would be, rather than keeping hearing the same things that need to be put to bed for a long while.

The depth and quality of these sounds, that generally only cost about £10, are astounding.....Just heard that Gloria Shannon ...tears, couple of weeks ago...stunnin!!

Unissued tracks that labels like Grapevine etc are bringing out is absolutely amazing.

We`re all missing out if they dont get played out.

Andy

Edited September 23, 2008 by Dennisoul

[Chalky]

Plenty on Kent, especially the anniversary 45's. Melba Moore Magic Touch, Milton Bennett - One More Lie, Gigi And Charmaines etc.

[Harrogatesoul]

Paul, is the Contours track only on the MFP lp, always loved this...didn`t know this was its only issue.

Absolutely okay in my book to play the likes of the Servicemen..I`ll stop loving you..Grapevine..Wonderful track!!! and also all those lovely other previously unissued sounds...Theres no other way to hear them!!!

I wish more of these previously unissued items were played out,

Imagine what a soul nite that would be, rather than keeping hearing the same things that need to be put to bed for a long while.

The depth and quality of these sounds, that generally only cost about £10, are astounding.....Just heard that Gloria Shannon ...tears, couple of weeks ago...stunnin!!

Unissued tracks that labels like Grapevine etc are bringing out is absolutely amazing.

We`re all missing out if they dont get played out.

Andy

Absolutley agree Andy - Kind of my point in a way. Servicemen a great slice of group soul. As re. the Stardust label guys - Are they legitimate issues? If so there's a fair few on there am I right?

Rich

[Guest Paul]

Unissued? Was origianlly issued as a 45 on Hale.

Well spotted, Chalky.

Actually, the producer had at first told me it was unissued but then a few copies turned up which proved that he was wrong. He'd obviously forgotten about it. And now I'm just as forgetful as he was.

I'll remove it from the list.

Reluctantly.

If you insist.

[Guest Paul]

List corrected...

Eddie Holman - Hold Me In Your Arms (Grapevine)

Carla Thomas - I'll Never Stop Loving You (Kent)

Al Williams - Try Them (Grapevine)

Rozetta Johnson - You Better Keep What You Got (Shotgun)

Jimmy Ruffin - We Finally Found Out (Soul Junction)

Dottie Pearson - A House Made Of Love / Bring It Over Baby (Grapevine)

Sam Dees - Fool Of The Year (Shotgun)

Gloria Shannon - Tears Are Gifts From Heaven (Realside)

Detroit Magnificents - Is This A Woman's Way? (Grapevine)

Bobby Cutchins - Leaving (Soul Junction)

The Servicemen - I'll Stop Loving You (Grapevine)

Johnnie Taylor - Please Let Me In (Kent) ?

Jerry Williams - When You Move, You Lose (Grapevine)

Timmy Willis - Such Misery (Joe Boy)

Johnny Moore - Yesterday, Today And Tomorrow (Grapevine)

Contours - Baby Hit And Run (Tamla Motown)

[Sebastian]

Some good unissued tunes that have been issued on 7" vinyl over the last couple of years:

David Sea - Believe In Me - SHOTGUN

Other Brothers - Nobody But Me - KENT

Mixed Emotions - Am I Imposing - ROCK-WAY

Edited September 23, 2008 by Sebastian

[Dylan]

in the car tiday from the good guys don't always win CD ...

Frederick Knight "It ain't much fun"

fantastic

some of these CDs contain some absolute belters.

[Guest Paul]

Some good unissued tunes that have been issued on 7" vinyl over the last couple of years:

David Sea - Believe In Me - SHOTGUN

Other Brothers - Nobody But Me - KENT

Mixed Emotions - Am I Imposing - ROCK-WAY

How could I forget about David Sea? I'll add it to my list.

[Dylan]

in the car tiday from the good guys don't always win CD ...

Frederick Knight "It ain't much fun"

fantastic

some of these CDs contain some absolute belters.

just seen this is for 45s not stuff on CD... DOH

[Harrogatesoul]

JJ BARNES - Love At First Sight (Hayley)

JIMMY RUFFIN - The Entertainer/STEVE MANCHA - One in a million

EMANUEL LASKEY - (Put your Name) In the Hall of Fame

THUNDERBIRD SOUND - In heaven and on earth

Nice handful of offerings from Hayley - Was the Loretta Kendrick previously unknown/released? Gorgeous track IMO. Just Brothers 'Honey' ??

Rich

[Chris L]

Isn't the title of the thread a contradiction ! Surely if they are on legit 45s, they are no longer unreleased material.

[Guest Paul]

in the car tiday from the good guys don't always win CD ...

Frederick Knight "It ain't much fun"

fantastic

some of these CDs contain some absolute belters.

Hello Dylan,

There are hundreds of amazing tracks which have surfaced on CD but I think this thread is about those which were eventually released on 45s. Don't blame me, Rich made the rules.

Frederick Knight, by the way, wasn't anywhere near as good as Shirley Brown in my opinion.

One track that I wish had been issued as a 45 is "Millionaire" by Chuck Jackson.

Best regards,

Paul

[Harrogatesoul]

I'm really not a dictator / take my ball home type.. honest... - On a more serious note the unreleased material on CD's IMO does get over-looked due do its format in some ways??

Did someone mention recently there was one or two on Goldmine??

Rich

[John Siret]

Jeffree - Love Loan (Expansion)

[Dylan]

Hello Dylan,

There are hundreds of amazing tracks which have surfaced on CD but I think this thread is about those which were eventually released on 45s. Don't blame me, Rich made the rules.

Frederick Knight, by the way, wasn't anywhere near as good as Shirley Brown in my opinion.

One track that I wish had been issued as a 45 is "Millionaire" by Chuck Jackson.

Best regards,

Paul

rules are there to be broken

still need to hear the shirley brown but found it cheap enough via a quick google search.

[Guest Paul]

rules are there to be broken

still need to hear the shirley brown but found it cheap enough via a quick google search.

"It Ain't No Fun" might be Shirley's best ever moment. Especially the long version.

Now let's have no more rebellious behaviour from you. And please try to pay attention, otherwise you'll have to stand in the corner until home time.

Deputy Headmaster

[Steve G]

Art Posey on Kent 12"

Sam dees "Run to me" (as above)

Sy Hightower

[jocko]

JIMMY RUFFIN - The Entertainer/STEVE MANCHA - One in a million

I am pretty sure I have the Jimmy Ruffin on Polydor LP Rich, I know it was discussed as unissued at the time but sure I found the LP in Manchester not much later, will try and dig it out when my PC repairs are over!

Also forgot to say wantt aware the Sam Dees Shotgun actually come out on 7"? I bought the David Sea but dont remember seeing the Sam Dees, is it still available?

Edited September 23, 2008 by jocko

[Guest Paul]

I'm really not a dictator / take my ball home type.. honest... - On a more serious note the unreleased material on CD's IMO does get over-looked due do its format in some ways??

Did someone mention recently there was one or two on Goldmine??

Rich

"Recipe (For Love)" by L.V. Johnson.

I suppose that counts.

Paul

[jocko]

Art Posey on Kent 12"

Sam dees "Run to me" (as above)

Sy Hightower

What is the details of the Sy Hightower Steve, who did that, was it Hayley?

[Harrogatesoul]

I am pretty sure I have the Jimmy Ruffin on Polydor LP Rich, I know it was discussed as unissued at the time but sure I found the LP in Manchester not much later, will try and dig it out when my PC repairs are over!

Also forgot to say wantt aware the Sam Dees Shotgun actually come out on 7"? I bought the David Sea but dont remember seeing the Sam Dees, is it still available?

Thanks for the info Jock much appreciated. Sam Dees still to be released as yet but coming soon I'm reliably informed.

Best

Rich

[Guest topcatnumpty1]

"Recipe (For Love)" by L.V. Johnson.

I suppose that counts.

Paul

Too right --top tune----Recipe--my Rani has always loved it---also Little Anne(2 0n Kent) 60,s Detroit soul at its Zenith(good word)

Paul have p.m. ed you

Tony Coleby

[Guest Paul]

I am pretty sure I have the Jimmy Ruffin on Polydor LP Rich, I know it was discussed as unissued at the time but sure I found the LP in Manchester not much later, will try and dig it out when my PC repairs are over!

Also forgot to say wantt aware the Sam Dees Shotgun actually come out on 7"? I bought the David Sea but dont remember seeing the Sam Dees, is it still available?

Hello

You haven't missed it, Jocko. "Fool Of The Year" by Sam Dees will be out on Shotgun SHOT 103 in a few weeks.

And closely behind it will be "Missing You" by Eddie Floyd (Shotgun SHOT 104).

Best regards,

Paul

[Guest Paul]

Bob & Earl Band - My Little Girl (Jay Boy)

[Steve G]

What is the details of the Sy Hightower Steve, who did that, was it Hayley?

Yes Hayley.

[Ian Dewhirst]

I can't be certain, Rich, because it was a long time ago, but I thought it was previously unissued.

Anyone know for sure?

Paul

Yep. Established that the single came out 3 months before the album appeared, so the Contours should deffo be on the list.

Ian D

[Sean Hampsey]

"It Ain't No Fun" might be Shirley's best ever moment. Especially the long version.

With you there Paul.

Just got a chill down my spine just thinking about it.

Transported me right back to me yoof that did!

Incredible track!

(even if slightly off topic)

Sean

[Guest Paul]

Yep. Established that the single came out 3 months before the album appeared, so the Contours should deffo be on the list.

Ian D

Thanks Ian,

"Baby Hit And Run" was probably the track which really made us all start to wonder just what unknown delights were in the Motown vaults.

I feel like I'm sixteen again.

Paul

[Ady Croasdell]

Art Posey on Kent 12"

Sam dees "Run to me" (as above)

Sy Hightower

Art Gentry Steve

[Steve G]

Art Gentry Steve

Oh yea - I am getting as forgetful as Ian D

[pikeys dog]

Wasn't it Betty Boo on the original Grapevine series that was unissued?

[Guest Paul]

Art Gentry Steve

"This Is My Chance"?

Was that a 45?

Paul