Guest chorleybloke Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Ey up everyone, Having a yarn with Steve Handbury yesterday about (IMHO) the world's best record. Steve thought there's an elusive first issue prior to Quinvy - urban myth or true? Anyone know owt about this? Cheers...........Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It's supposed to have been released on VEEP (#1296), but I don't think anyone has ever found a copy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Sadly I only have this on CD but after saying that I had a listen the other day for the first time in 4 or 5 years and it turns out to be a stereo recording from master tapes. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest chorleybloke Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It's supposed to have been released on VEEP (#1296), but I don't think anyone has ever found a copy. Oh yeah I recall that rumour now you mention it. A bit like the Honey Bees on Wand? Cheers Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) Oh yeah I recall that rumour now you mention it. A bit like the Honey Bees on Wand? Cheers Pete It would probably have been the second issue as the wand stuff would be like earl Harrison and the ivories i think John Anderson swears the had the Veep Don varners and sold them to Japan and you have to beleive him as he did turn up the Ivories didnt he Edited September 10, 2008 by Tedsoul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 (edited) i really like the other side of this as well. mark Edited September 10, 2008 by mark.b Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Johnny Mack Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Ted, Pete I've collected the Veep label off and on for more than 30 years and have never even sighted a copy of V-1296. I had the same discussion with John Anderson regarding existence of this record and he told me that he had a box in the early 70's and sold them to Holland for the "Meet me in Church" side for 75p each - Holland or Japan there's a plausible deep link there. My Veep discography shows V-1296 as "voided 12/18/68" - if JA did find a box that was probably the total vinyl run - but surely if that was the case the odd one to have surfaced over the last 30 years, especially considering popularity and value of "Tear Stained face" on Quinvy. Also spoken with John Manship and Lew Stanley on this subject and neither of them has ever seen one nor do they know anyone who has one. Another vinyl myth I'm afraid........................would love to be proven wrong though ! Best John It would probably have been the second issue as the wand stuff would be like earl Harrison and the ivories i think John Anderson swears the had the Veep Don varners and sold them to Japan and you have to beleive him as he did turn up the Ivories didnt he Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I had the same discussion with John Anderson regarding existence of this record and he told me that he had a box in the early 70's and sold them to Holland for the "Meet me in Church" side for 75p each - Holland or Japan there's a plausible deep link there. He once told me Holland too. It is certainly safe to assume that they aren't over here in Japan, as none of the collectors have it/them/have ever seen one either. My copy came from Quin Ivy himself...and yes the version used on various Charly label releases is indeed off master tapes, stereo AND a different mix to the released 45 (check out the brass work!). If y'all don't know it, I thoroughly recommend another track by him, on the South Camp label called, 'The sweetest story'...great Northern SOUL. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 There's also an absolutely brilliant previously unreleased track on one of the John Ridley-compiled Charly albums from the late 80s called When It's Over. Mid-to-uptempo and much more sophisticated in approach than Tear Stained Face. I've often thought this would be popular if spun at rare soul dances. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 There's also an absolutely brilliant previously unreleased track on one of the John Ridley-compiled Charly albums from the late 80s called When It's Over. Mid-to-uptempo and much more sophisticated in approach than Tear Stained Face. I've often thought this would be popular if spun at rare soul dances. Agree. What do you think of his, 'The sweetest story', Gareth? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Agree. What do you think of his, 'The sweetest story', Gareth? A great record Dave: I've never seen it on the more usual South Camp logo (the Atlantic/Atco distributed one) only a white demo which looks quite different to anything else on the label. I can't remember where it fits into the chronology of Quinvy / South Camp stuff: later than the main bulk of releases I think. It can still be bought for around fifty quid and is good value at that I reckon. I'd still love a copy of Tear Stained Face. Took me years to appreciate it fully but now I come to think of it aggro-soul gets no better. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 I could swear that i saw a white Veep promo on eBay in the early days of the site. Kicking myself now if it was indeed a Veep label copy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 A great record Dave: I've never seen it on the more usual South Camp logo (the Atlantic/Atco distributed one) only a white demo which looks quite different to anything else on the label. I can't remember where it fits into the chronology of Quinvy / South Camp stuff: later than the main bulk of releases I think. It can still be bought for around fifty quid and is good value at that I reckon. I'd still love a copy of Tear Stained Face. Took me years to appreciate it fully but now I come to think of it aggro-soul gets no better. hi gareth have you listened to the other side of tear stained face, mojo mama it is a really earthy northern track. mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Souljazera Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Tear Stained Face. Took me years to appreciate it fully but now I come to think of it aggro-soul gets no better. aggro soul indeed of the very highest calibre gareth... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 hi gareth have you listened to the other side of tear stained face, mojo mama it is a really earthy northern track. mark Its 25 miles or very similar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Souljazera Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 anybody got a minter for sale sweetest story or tear stained cheque book for that matter. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
solidhit Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Excellent record, I like it! Me too. Value? Availability? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest chorleybloke Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Excellent record, I like it! What a top track - that's got plenty of potential. But here's the daddy of em all... Cheers......Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest veep1296 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 What a top track - that's got plenty of potential. But here's the daddy of em all... Cheers......Pete Ey up Pete, See you in Mojacar next week! Ref Veep 1296...... see Avatar been here for a good while! Listed as voided as mentioned earlier.....not sure but think in Hot Buttered Soul? but stand to be corrected. My daughter & i mocked this to take as a scan to Dave Greets 50th...had Eddie Hubbard, Butch & others scraping stubble! We used the releases either side 1295 & 1297, one of which i think was Baby Washington "Think.." , the date stamp is off BW @ 1969 so it was going to be a reissue? Anyone comment or correct ..??? Regards David & Berry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest veep1296 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 OOPS not very technically adept..please read around the first pic, Sorry David & Lamont Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Its 25 miles or very similar Yes, "Mojo Mama" is pretty much "25 Miles", but "32 Miles" instead... I personally prefer Wilson Pickett's version of "Mojo Mama", much punchier and with a more intense vocal delivery. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest chorleybloke Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Ey up Pete, See you in Mojacar next week! Ref Veep 1296...... see Avatar been here for a good while! Listed as voided as mentioned earlier.....not sure but think in Hot Buttered Soul? but stand to be corrected. My daughter & i mocked this to take as a scan to Dave Greets 50th...had Eddie Hubbard, Butch & others scraping stubble! We used the releases either side 1295 & 1297, one of which i think was Baby Washington "Think.." , the date stamp is off BW @ 1969 so it was going to be a reissue? Anyone comment or correct ..??? Regards David & Berry Ey up Dave, Yep looking forward to Mojacar & meeting all my virtual mates! Also a great opportunity to spin semi-knowns. Denny Johnson, also from Perth, will be in attendance too. See you at Dave's place on Thursday night? Cheers............Pete Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) A great record Dave: I've never seen it on the more usual South Camp logo (the Atlantic/Atco distributed one) only a white demo which looks quite different to anything else on the label. Here's a nice one...West Coast Monarch press. I sold a stone-mint (probably unplayed!) spare copy for £50 recently. Should go for double that imo...so good/fine pedigree/under played. Edited September 11, 2008 by Anoraks Corner Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Garethx Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Thanks for the scan Dave. The first Atco-distributed issue of this I've ever seen. Wonder if it exists on a vinyl Atco-distributed stock copy? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Thanks for the scan Dave. The first Atco-distributed issue of this I've ever seen. Wonder if it exists on a vinyl Atco-distributed stock copy? you won't have to look very hard to find another right now Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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