Diddy Morgan Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 ive got a one sided d.j copy of the vontastics 1023 you can work it out ,it looks like a 2nd issue to me ,any info i can look at please on this label,ive got a mamie galore but tis different Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) ive got a one sided d.j copy of the vontastics 1023 you can work it out ,it looks like a 2nd issue to me ,any info i can look at please on this label,ive got a mamie galore but tis different not sure if there are re-issues of this, but it should have the address round the bottom of the label. ya mamie galore with the split coloured label is from the 200 series that followed on from Satellite label the latter St lawrence are all pink I think. I know Johnny Sayles "I Cant get enough" has re-issues and the difference is the lack of Chicago address round the bottom. Pity ya got single sided demo, coz the tother side "Never let Your Love Grow Cold" is awesome imo steve Edited September 6, 2008 by Soul-Integrity Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) not sure if there are re-issues of this, but it should have the address round the bottom of the label. ya mamie galore with the split coloured label is from the 200 series that followed on from Satalite label the latter St lawrence are all pink I think. I know Johnny Sayles "I Cant get enough" has re-issues and the difference is the lack of Chicago address round the bottom. Pity ya got single sided demo, coz the tother side "Never let Your Love Grow Cold" is awesome imo steve Here is the >>> St Lawrence label at Hitsville Soul Club <<< We haven't completed yet, I haven't seen a one sided DEMO for this, but the previous number 1022 shows a One Sided DEMO. Just been on PopSike.com All show "Never let Your Love Grow Cold" side Not sure about this one, address missing but that could be the way the label has been cut out as there is a hint of an address to the bottom right of the scan. Edited September 6, 2008 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 Just been on PopSike.com All show "Never let Your Love Grow Cold" side Not sure about this one, address missing but that could be the way the label has been cut out as there is a hint of an address to the bottom right of the scan. heres the record Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 (edited) heres the record Looks OK to me Mate, difficult when It's a scan though. John Manship has had a DEMO (One Sided) on his site >>> LINK <<< It's just that I hadn't seen one. Edited September 6, 2008 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Looks OK to me Mate, John Manship has had a DEMO (One Sided) on his site >>> LINK <<< agree wid ya Roger, got the address and all, also that 2nd scan of yours also appears to have the addy, tho as you say it seems cropped steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Is the Burgess Gardner referred to on the label the jazz trumpeter ? Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 agree wid ya Roger, got the address and all, also that 2nd scan of yours also appears to have the addy, tho as you say it seems cropped steve Yes, looks very nice that DEMO as I say first time I have seen a copy. The St Lawrence label changed slightly throughout it's run. Address just under the logo on the early numbers, Address at the bottom of the label later numbers. There is also the Styrene West Coast Pink Label if you can find them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 agree wid ya Roger, got the address and all, also that 2nd scan of yours also appears to have the addy, tho as you say it seems cropped steve picked it up for 20$ recently on a search its a mint copy also , thanks for your help its appreciated. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted September 6, 2008 Author Share Posted September 6, 2008 Is the Burgess Gardner referred to on the label the jazz trumpeter ? Cheers Paul its certainly got some great horns in it shrews Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Is the Burgess Gardner referred to on the label the jazz trumpeter ? Cheers Paul Id say one and the same Paul, Burgess's name turns up on so many class St Lawrence and other Chicago recordings He also had his own label "Down To Earth" think his son is following in his footsteps, tho on Trombone instead of trumpet.... unless theres 2 Burgess Gardners from chicago? steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 picked it up for 20$ recently on a search its a mint copy also , thanks for your help its appreciated. sounds good to me steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Yes, looks very nice that DEMO as I say first time I have seen a copy. The St Lawrence label changed slightly throughout it's run. Address just under the logo on the early numbers, Address at the bottom of the label later numbers. There is also the Styrene West Coast Pink Label if you can find them. also plain white with blue writing label with no addy (an early one) Roger steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 ive got a one sided d.j copy of the vontastics 1023 you can work it out ,it looks like a 2nd issue to me ,any info i can look at please on this label,ive got a mamie galore but tis different The Mamie Galore "It Ain't Necessary" should have the full publishing company details, Cragvee and Overcome on the left hand side, some just have Overcome and don't look right. The Vontastics you describe seams ok to me. But like many labels its different rules for different releases! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 also plain white with blue writing label with no addy (an early one) Roger steve Yes, forgot about this one Steve. Seen it on White & Pink too Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Yes, forgot about this one Steve. Seen it on White & Pink too Hi Roger, also this design steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Id say one and the same Paul, Burgess's name turns up on so many class St Lawrence and other Chicago recordings He also had his own label "Down To Earth" think his son is following in his footsteps, tho on Trombone instead of trumpet.... unless theres 2 Burgess Gardners from chicago? steve There was a Burgess Gardner album on MCA C.1980, with an instrumental version of a track by Candy Edwards (Detroit). Is that the same guy? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 There is also the Styrene West Coast Pink Label if you can find them. Think we may have to dig out that old rarer issue's & demo's thread again Roger ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 yeah, Vontastics great double sider with terrific horn work on "You can Work It Out" that I think has a similar feel to " Fatman (Batman) at the Go Go" that Monk Higgins also had a hand in. Or is it just me? ATB Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Think we may have to dig out that old rarer issue's & demo's thread again Roger ! Yes we should. That is a very rare copy, Thanks for posting. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jerry Hipkiss Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 There was a Burgess Gardner album on MCA C.1980, with an instrumental version of a track by Candy Edwards (Detroit). Is that the same guy? "Music Year 2000", came out 1983, had an instr. of Al Hudsons "Spread Love" on it, and IIRC "Little Bellflower" got plays as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Our Kid Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Not had a chance to check my copy but I'm almost sure it was issued as We not You Can Work It Out. Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Diddy Morgan Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 Not had a chance to check my copy but I'm almost sure it was issued as We not You Can Work It Out. Paul so demo says you issue changed to we .seems peculiar as they sing "you" ,still a great record Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 so demo says you issue changed to we .seems peculiar as they sing "you" ,still a great record Issues say "You Can Work It Out" too! steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chris L Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 heres the record Those St Lawrence demos (ie DJ Copy) never had addresses on them, meethinks it has something to do with the distributor (Chess ?) Chris L Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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