Post Stafford Classics

[Russ Vickers]

Okay quick run by while waiting in coffee cue

Donnie Burdick Candle In The Window

Colin Law at his peak, dance floor rocking, hands clapping, mad Scotsmen chanting Soul. I was off course at side stroking my chin in time.

Lost more records from Colin in that period, trying to think when, also lots of Allanton records although not sure they count as huge, 2 from me I would suggest

Soulful Twins - Can't Let You Go and Tears - Good Luck My Love

Also Magnetics I Have A Girl would only became popular after Stafford, would it have not, trust me I used to ask Butch to play it enough!!

Do not under estimate the power of the Scots Jocko.......Allanton was huge for us. Did I hear Colin might be making a come back ???????????

Russ

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[Dave Thorley]

I have moaned & moaned at Dave to spin this again, in fact I thought he may have sold it...........you lucky blighters gonna hear it out foe the first time in eons at Lifeline...............listen to that back beat thump, thump, thump...............strings n things & a vocal to die for, will be huge again, in fact didnt reach its full potential first time round.........just great NS, what it should be all about.............

Russ

Off tread a bit, but if it arrives in the post tomorrow, I've just got a studio disc that I sold 25 years ago to Ion, gonna play it tomorrow nite. old fashioned 100mph stomper. Come home to daddy

[Simon M]

A rundown of Rock City classics wouldn't go amiss. Remember Bill "Space Lady" causing quite a stir for a few weeks.

Yeah got that off Raistrick about 1985 , I played it so much folks had had enough of it after three weeks

[Simon M]

One post Stafford record Im yet to hear is Butch's Mighty Lovers coverup . He says its very Northern !?

[Chalky]

Do not under estimate the power of the Scots Jocko.......Allanton was huge for us. Did I hear Colin might be making a come back ???????????

Russ

Colin played at Lifeline alongside Jock, one of the best nights we've had.

[Daved]

I never went to Stafford or anything pre that, so forgive me if any these were played but I always thought of them as newies when I heard them in the late 90s/early 00s:

Sammy Relford - Hey Girl

Kenny Carter - What's That On Your Finger

TC & The Bricklayers - Up and Down The Hill

Little Dooley - If Ever I Needed You

Joe Tex - I Wanna Be Free (possibly a Wheel tune?)

[Garethx]

One post Stafford record Im yet to hear is Butch's Mighty Lovers coverup . He says its very Northern !?

Very Northern in a classic way. Wouldn't have sounded out of place at the great venues of the past.

[Chalky]

Man O Man was stratospherically popular around 2000 wasnt it.

popular mid to late 80's as well, places like Blackburn wasn't it, Butch's G Davis & R Tyler cover up.

[Garethx]

I never went to Stafford or anything pre that, so forgive me if any these were played but I always thought of them as newies when I heard them in the late 90s/early 00s:

Sammy Relford - Hey Girl

Kenny Carter - What's That On Your Finger

TC & The Bricklayers - Up and Down The Hill

Little Dooley - If Ever I Needed You

Joe Tex - I Wanna Be Free (possibly a Wheel tune?)

Little Dooley was played at The Mecca and other venues.

[Raresoul45s]

Kenny wells - isnt it just a shame when did that first get played and the Great Ward Burton - Sweet Temptation.

Two fine tunes

Darren

[Chalky]

MM & the Peanuts 'The Phillie', sure that was a Yate spin? Must have been as I never went to Stafford and I had it & played it when I was at Yate.

was also covered up at Stafford, The Del Larks I think.

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[Simon M]

popular mid to late 80's as well, places like Blackburn wasn't it, Butch's G Davis & R Tyler cover up.

Did Guy have it at Stafford ?

[Dave Thorley]

was also covered up at Stafford, The Del Larks I think.

I had it covered up at Yate as The Del Larks-The Dance way back in 78, was un-covered by the time Stafford came around, but that was a time when records had a much longer shelf life

[Garethx]

Did Guy have it at Stafford ?

Pat certainly had it at Stafford and played Life Of Tears. Came from Levine's collection, I am led to believe.

[Guest Nik Mak]

was also covered up at Stafford, The Del Larks I think.

Wayhay! I played a cover up!

[Dave Thorley]

Nice one Dave............loved the Willy White you played Sat BTW of course I have now forgotten everything you told us about it, other than it was detroit........gonna be a biggie tho'..........certainly did it for us & of course the Superlatives c/up was great too.

Russ

Hi Russ

Willie White-Nobody likes me/I'm leaving-Gold Soul

[Garethx]

Has anyone mentioned Tolbert yet?

[Russ Vickers]

Hi Russ

Willie White-Nobody likes me/I'm leaving-Gold Soul

Wooooooohooooooooooooooo, any chance of a small snippet, altho' I think its more of a Nighter record, you know booming thru a big system kinda thing.

Russ

[Chalky]

Was the Newsounds, cut from the P-Vine LP.................was huge for awhile darn sarf ...............a great tune & happy memories of the 'Water Rats'.

Russ

It was, Andy Dyson probably the first I remember spinning this at the Hoist in Conisboro that Andy and Rod ran.

[Chalky]

Did Guy have it at Stafford ?

Dunno, Pat Brady played the other side late Wigan early 80's?

* just seen Gareth's post

Edited August 29, 2008 by chalky

[Russ Vickers]

It was, Andy Dyson probably the first I remember spinning this at the Hoist in Conisboro that Andy and Rod ran.

...........tune & almost forgotten now too, thanks Chalks.

Russ

[Simon M]

Has anyone mentioned Tolbert yet?

Oh yeah , Tolbert plus C Coulter .. two great singers

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[Simon M]

How about these

Philip Wright " Keep her happy"

Chain Reaction "Search for tomorrow"

New World " Were gonna make it"

Wee Unissued

Wee "try me"

[Dylan]

Robert Tanner "Sweet memories" became a massive sound after I started going to Northern clubs.

had that been played at stafford ?

other things that have had a lot of turntable action over recent years but may have already been mentioned...

sensations

hamilton movement

vangaurds

passions

joe jama, margeret little (I don't particulary like these 2)

I can't comment if they were played at stafford cos I wasn't there.

[Garethx]

Reding through all the posts the three which stand out as cast-iron, would have been absolute nailed-on-monsters at any of the great venues of the past are:

Jesse James Love Is Alright

Carla Thomas I'll Never Stop Loving You

The Prophets If I Had One Gold Piece (unissued version)

[Guest Chris Waterman]

What was Butch's thing with the same backing track as Yvonne Baker ????????........was it the Volcanoes ????..........mental block..........hoofin' sound !!!!!!.

Russ

'Think It Over' The Chesterfields

I asked Butch about this at the Central Bank Holiday niter in Leeds a couple of years ago and I'm sure he told me he played it at Stafford around 86

Edited August 29, 2008 by Chris Waterman

[Chalky]

Flash McKinley - I'll Rescue You - Bombay. Early Wilton spin.

[Russ Vickers]

'Think It Over' The Chesterfields

I asked Butch about this at the Central Bank Holiday niter in Leeds a couple of years ago and I'm sure he told me he played it at Stafford around 86

Cheers Chris...

Russ

[Guest Roddy]

The two willie white tracks are they hard to find ?

[Russ Vickers]

Some absolutely fantastic posts & sound files............brilliant, thanks for all the contributions.

Russ

[Dave Thorley]

Cheers Chris...

Russ

Russ the side I played the other week is the other side about 4 posts earlier, not the one you've listened to

[Guest Netspeaky]

When was Montclairs-Hey you, first played?

Dave, IL played this in the Mecca.

[Russ Vickers]

The two willie white tracks are they hard to find ?

Yeah, I think so Roddy, from what I remember Dave saying on Sat...........great arnt they !!!!

Russ

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[Russ Vickers]

Dave, IL played this in the Mecca.

About twice ..........

Russ

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

How about every version of "The Look On Your Face"?

I don't personally remember hearing any of 'em played out before the late 80s but, as I said earlier (to some derision, it would appear ), I spent quite a few years in the middle of that decade doing very little other than going to the cinema three or four times a week...

Oh yeah, and possibly Bobby Patterson's "I'm In Love With You" which I'm sure must have been played in the 70s but which didn't really achieve classic status until the late 80s...

[Dave Thorley]

Dave, IL played this in the Mecca.

Cheers mate

[Russ Vickers]

Russ the side I played the other week is the other side about 4 posts earlier, not the one you've listened to

I listened to both mate..........first one was the one you played Sat right ???.........altho' the second sounds very familiar tho I cant think why ???

Russ

[Soulof]

Robert Tanner "Sweet memories" became a massive sound after I started going to Northern clubs.

had that been played at stafford ?

don´t think so. think Phil Wainwright was first with this ?? don´know when he started playin it though ?? 90´s ??

[Dave Thorley]

How about every version of "The Look On Your Face"?

I don't personally remember hearing any of 'em played out before the late 80s but, as I said earlier (to some derision, it would appear ), I spent quite a few years in the middle of that decade doing very little other than going to the cinema three or four times a week...

Oh yeah, and possibly Bobby Patterson's "I'm In Love With You" which I'm sure must have been played in the 70s but which didn't really achieve classic status until the late 80s...

Hi Tony

Someone must have really believed in that record for it to get released so many times on all those artists

But your right don't remember it until late 80's at least

[Guest Roddy]

I fucking love that nobody likes me its almost worth me paying £95 for the train to lifeline !

[Mark B]

Herde something we made up alcon

Daddy Maxfield i've always been in love with you U A

Tabby Thomas you're all i've got Hip

Len Wade what you gonna do Dial

only post stafford classics from my play box

i struggle as with stafford as i was not there so do not know most of the stuff that was played from 79/80 to 1995. so i find these threads extremely enlightening.

Mark

[Dave Thorley]

I fucking love that nobody likes me its almost worth me paying £95 for the train to lifeline !

More than worth it, see you tomorrow nite

Mate in Detroit gave it to me for DJing for him.

[Guest Netspeaky]

Musn't forget Eddie Holland's beautiful Daydreamer acetate, courtesy of Ady Croasdell. A record I remember from a similar timeframe is Butch playing The Prophets One Gold Piece. Both these records and scores more would have been monsters anywhere at any time.

Are you sure about Butch and the Prophets, I thought only Andy Rix was the only one who had this back then, as it was rumoured not to exist at one time.

[solidhit]

Robert Tanner "Sweet memories" became a massive sound after I started going to Northern clubs.

had that been played at stafford ?

don´t think so. think Phil Wainwright was first with this ?? don´know when he started playin it though ?? 90´s ??

I sold this in the mid 90s to Soul Sam. I thought it was unknown at the time, but after the deal, Butch told me he had one. Not sure who he sold it to.

Interesting that this is getting mentioned within a few posts of the New Sounds LP on Turbo, as it's the exact same band and singers.

[Chalky]

Are you sure about Butch and the Prophets, I thought only Andy Rix was the only one who had this back then, as it was rumoured not to exist at one time.

I remember Butch playing this at 100 Club when I went every month, that was years ago.

[Md Records]

Just sold a Willie White to Mike Wilkes, difficult to price - OK tune, but not up there with the best.The studio disc you played Dave IS pretty Darned good though, I think Johnny Beggs played this at Bidds (one of the most upfront and exciting allnighters around), I have a CD of it, from him - great track!!!

Des Parker

P.S. Just my personal opinion, for what little it's worth

Edited August 29, 2008 by SOUL.INC

[Guest Netspeaky]

I remember Butch playing this at 100 Club when I went every month, that was years ago.

When AC put the first shrine LP out on Kent it was one of the missing numbers that was back in the 80's, and unknown to exist.

[Dave Thorley]

Clyde Milton-I'd rather leave on my feet-Disco Tac

The versions by Emanual Laskey, Forth Day and Magnificents, RS had it the early 80's but this version wasn't know about until Bretby time

[Garethx]

I'm sure someone will have a more complete recollection of the chronology of The Prophets, but the version on the Horace's Capitol Soul anthology predates the discovery of the released version, which only existed as hearsay at the time. It was this version, or a very similar cut which Butch had played for some eighteen months or so before the release of the album. The actual 45 was rumoured to exist but an actual playable copy didn't emerge until some years later. The released version, while good, doesn't have the same magic as the 'tape version'. I call it a tape version because I don't know whether this would have existed on a contemporary (i.e. 1960s) acetate or whether it came from Eddie Singleton's actual masters. Perhaps Ady can tell us the full story.

[Dave]

I'm sure someone will have a more complete recollection of the chronology of The Prophets, but the version on the Horace's Capitol Soul anthology predates the discovery of the released version, which only existed as hearsay at the time. It was this version, or a very similar cut which Butch had played for some eighteen months or so before the release of the album. The actual 45 was rumoured to exist but an actual playable copy didn't emerge until some years later. The released version, while good, doesn't have the same magic as the 'tape version'. I call it a tape version because I don't know whether this would have existed on a contemporary (i.e. 1960s) acetate or whether it came from Eddie Singleton's actual masters. Perhaps Ady can tell us the full story.

Great thread folks, fabulous some might even say

So many of my favourite records mentioned here, mainly because they were new to me 10 years ago.

A few though pre-date 1986 I reckon. Some have been commented upon, and although my memory ain't the best, I reckon The Jokers was played earlier (Nev Wherry perhaps?) and also I heard the Hamilton Movement first time around, though not necessarily at a northern event?