Soul Police - The Charge Sheet

[Guest Glawster]

QUOTE (Nik Mak @ Aug 28 08, 11:23 AM) My point is if you had no intention of playing the oldies in your box then ultimately it didn't matter But if the guy played a load of boots that the rest of the Dj line up wanted to play off the original vinyl then that did matter. That is bad etiquette and a matter for the Soul Police. It comes across from the many comments that Djing is becoming a pissing contest between collectors IE: 'I've got better records than you have,hey look at me this is SOOOOO rare & you haven't got it!!!!Na,Na,Na,Na,Na! They seem to be forgetting that they are there to entertain the crowd and get them dancing a few boots in a night ain't gonna end the world as we know it! The scene was built on bootlegs & pressings wether you like it or not. Collecting & Djing are seperate practices. Collecting is a personal experience about the vinyl & it's exclusivity. Djing is a shared one about the music & the reaction of the audiance. Being too serious about it all only ruins it for everyone. NO SMILEYS!

Edited August 28, 2008 by Glawster

[Guest soulmaguk]

[Guest Simon]

That didn't stop some of the people who say they were there

I was 6 also in 74, i went honest Guv, i remember going on the Casino one night straight from seeing the Pistols in 76!

Simon

[jocko]

Stuart mate if you are out there, and havn't ran off to hills of Perth in horror at what your merry jape has turned into, please close this down then I can resort to my Levinesque ignoring statement

Many many many thanks if you do!

[Guest Gavin Page]

I was 6 also in 74, i went honest Guv, i remember going on the Casino one night straight from seeing the Pistols in 76!

Simon

Yeah at the 100 club

[jocko]

We obviously share more than a name, at last a laugh, I am retiring to my afternoon nap happy at last.

Oops that was meant to quote Jocks picture above, damned technology (ooops is that a moan)

Edited August 28, 2008 by jocko

[Guest Gavin Page]

That didn't stop some of the people who say they were there

[Guest Simon]

Yeah at the 100 club

That's the one Gavin, good night wonnit!

Simon

[Guest Gavin Page]

That's the one Gavin, good night wonnit!

Simon

Not sure, I was still out of my head from Wigan to many Geen and Clears

[Guest Simon]

Not sure, I was still out of my head from Wigan to many Geen and Clears

Too many greens are deffo not good for you at a nighter, that brocolli plays havoc with your indigestion!

Simon

[Tricky]

I thought you might be interested to know i have applied to join the:

Soul Police Vice Squad.

[Guest]

p.s. modern soul sucks

[Guest soulmaguk]

We obviously share more than a name, at last a laugh, I am retiring to my afternoon nap happy at last.

Oops that was meant to quote Jocks picture above, damned technology (ooops is that a moan)

That's OK, caught your slot at Lifeline in October of 2007, loved it. There's not many folk on this thread who would ever get the chance to DJ at such a prestigious soul gathering.

Regards

Jock

[Chalky]

Get a life Jocko...better still get some friends...

thats the second or third time you've implied Jock has no friends Dunno why cause believe me he has more friends on this scene than you will ever know.

[Val (Chunky)]

Jock.......ROCKS!

[Guest]

Jock.......ROCKS!

....but bread ROLLS

[Guest Gavin Page]

Jock.......ROCKS!

I spose he is okay for a sweaty.

[Guest Beeks]

thats the second or third time you've implied Jock has no friends Dunno why cause believe me he has more friends on this scene than you will ever know.

I don't know whether it will be more than I will ever know Chalky...but fair enough...I cede your point

Anyway stop stirring

[Modernsoulsucks]

"I reckon anybody who went to Wigan Casino for a sustained

length of time and still knows what soul music is deserves a bloody medal"

"Not sure, I was still out of my head from Wigan to many Geen and Clears"

Probably the wrong thread but why these pops at Wigan? I went from first night in'73 straight after the Mecca and stopped going after the several last nights we had. From what I remember we didn't sit there like whales passively taking in the plankton but sifted through whatever came our way.

Actually thinking about it,not a good analogy cos whales do sieve their intake so forget the whales; besides they have their own Assembly now and a Dr. Who spin-off. But you get the drift. Shit!, that's almost back to plankton again and where there's plankton there's...

I never set foot in Mr.M's although I have been to Kegsy's "event" about 8 years ago so I do know roughly what that hell-hole was like but in my opinion nothing whatsoever to do with what was happening in the main room. When Wigan finished I did check my collection to see what I'd amassed during that time as obviously being a drug-crazed regular I coulda bought anything. Guess what? No Joe 90,Muriel Day, Bobby Goldsboro [Richard's discovery!!] but Professionals,Moses Dillard etc. Oh and an album of Whale songs by Ivor Emmanuel.

So next time you hear that Wigan was not all it was cracked up to be I'd take it with a pinch of plankton as it's just a falsehood spread by disgruntled 6 year olds.

ROD

[SteveM]

"I reckon anybody who went to Wigan Casino for a sustained

length of time and still knows what soul music is deserves a bloody medal"

"Not sure, I was still out of my head from Wigan to many Geen and Clears"

Probably the wrong thread but why these pops at Wigan? I went from first night in'73 straight after the Mecca and stopped going after the several last nights we had. From what I remember we didn't sit there like whales passively taking in the plankton but sifted through whatever came our way.

Actually thinking about it,not a good analogy cos whales do sieve their intake so forget the whales; besides they have their own Assembly now and a Dr. Who spin-off. But you get the drift. Shit!, that's almost back to plankton again and where there's plankton there's...

I never set foot in Mr.M's although I have been to Kegsy's "event" about 8 years ago so I do know roughly what that hell-hole was like but in my opinion nothing whatsoever to do with what was happening in the main room. When Wigan finished I did check my collection to see what I'd amassed during that time as obviously being a drug-crazed regular I coulda bought anything. Guess what? No Joe 90,Muriel Day, Bobby Goldsboro [Richard's discovery!!] but Professionals,Moses Dillard etc. Oh and an album of Whale songs by Ivor Emmanuel.

So next time you hear that Wigan was not all it was cracked up to be I'd take it with a pinch of plankton as it's just a falsehood spread by disgruntled 6 year olds.

ROD

Rod, out of the sixties things you had in your collection, did you have second copies of the stuff you supplied RS with 79/83 ish ? You know William Powel, Combinations etc ? Did you find the Pierre Hunt c/u ?

[Guest Byrney]

thats the second or third time you've implied Jock has no friends Dunno why cause believe me he has more friends on this scene than you will ever know.

Too right, a very well respected lad across all strata's of the scene.

Have you ever met anyone whose been In his company who doesn't like Jock??? One of the best lads I've had the pleasure of knowing.

[Guest Gavin Page]

"I reckon anybody who went to Wigan Casino for a sustained

length of time and still knows what soul music is deserves a bloody medal"

"Not sure, I was still out of my head from Wigan to many Geen and Clears"

Probably the wrong thread but why these pops at Wigan? I went from first night in'73 straight after the Mecca and stopped going after the several last nights we had. From what I remember we didn't sit there like whales passively taking in the plankton but sifted through whatever came our way.

Actually thinking about it,not a good analogy cos whales do sieve their intake so forget the whales; besides they have their own Assembly now and a Dr. Who spin-off. But you get the drift. Shit!, that's almost back to plankton again and where there's plankton there's...

I never set foot in Mr.M's although I have been to Kegsy's "event" about 8 years ago so I do know roughly what that hell-hole was like but in my opinion nothing whatsoever to do with what was happening in the main room. When Wigan finished I did check my collection to see what I'd amassed during that time as obviously being a drug-crazed regular I coulda bought anything. Guess what? No Joe 90,Muriel Day, Bobby Goldsboro [Richard's discovery!!] but Professionals,Moses Dillard etc. Oh and an album of Whale songs by Ivor Emmanuel.

So next time you hear that Wigan was not all it was cracked up to be I'd take it with a pinch of plankton as it's just a falsehood spread by disgruntled 6 year olds.

ROD

[Modernsoulsucks]

Rod, out of the sixties things you had in your collection, did you have second copies of the stuff you supplied RS with 79/83 ish ? You know William Powel, Combinations etc ? Did you find the Pierre Hunt c/u ?

WHOA there!!!

None of those were mine!! I did supply Richard with a couple of records but they were terrible. Nightwatch,Peter Jarret,Curtis, and I've just remembered Chuck Cockerham and that Willie Pickett which were OK although that was later post-'88. Think I gave him a cut of that "Suspicion" too in early 80's from that first lot of unreleased Motown I stumbled across.

If you're talking Combinations on Kell-mac I got that off him, although at Stafford Dave and I did play the Combinations on Kimtone.

This is off-topic I know but don't want any misunderstanding.

ROD

[Guest Byrney]

Here's a few things I've been charged with by the SP:

1. Not wearing proper shoes (Trim Trabs not good enough for some)

2. Not being a proper soulie i.e not wearing the soulie uniform

3. Being a traitor for leaving the scene (I got bored with it 94 ish, not many of us admit to this crime; stone the heretic)

4. Going downstairs at Bradford to listen to that there rave music

5. Being up my own arse as I don't want to attend nostalgia oldies events

6. As a punter having the audacity of wanting the DJ to play originals

Personally if I was the SP I'd have me breaking rocks

[SteveM]

WHOA there!!!

None of those were mine!! I did supply Richard with a couple of records but they were terrible. Nightwatch,Peter Jarret,Curtis, and I've just remembered Chuck Cockerham and that Willie Pickett which were OK although that was later post-'88. Think I gave him a cut of that "Suspicion" too in early 80's from that first lot of unreleased Motown I stumbled across.

If you're talking Combinations on Kell-mac I got that off him, although at Stafford Dave and I did play the Combinations on Kimtone.

This is off-topic I know but don't want any misunderstanding.

ROD

OOOh. Sorry Rod. Always thought that the Combinations was one of your finds. Were they Andersons ?

Still off topic but the Soul Police haven't acted yet.

[SteveM]

Here's a few things I've been charged with by the SP:

1. Not wearing proper shoes (Trim Trabs not good enough for some)

2. Not being a proper soulie i.e not wearing the soulie uniform

3. Being a traitor for leaving the scene (I got bored with it 94 ish, not many of us admit to this crime; stone the heretic)

4. Going downstairs at Bradford to listen to that there rave music

5. Being up my own arse as I don't want to attend nostalgia oldies events

6. As a punter having the audacity of wanting the DJ to play originals

Personally if I was the SP I'd have me breaking rocks

Re 3 Byrney. Bored ? Bored? aThe stock answer is " the musical direction *the scene was taking at the time wasn't for me, because while I like most black music genres, I'm basically a soul music fan"

Lets not have any of this bored, married, kids etc etc talk. How will the newbies ever learn ?

* You can of course insert, pop, house, disco, r n' b, rock and roll etc here.

Edited August 28, 2008 by SteveM

[Modernsoulsucks]

OOOh. Sorry Rod. Always thought that the Combinations was one of your finds. Were they Andersons ?

Still off topic but the Soul Police haven't acted yet.

Yes John's. Others may know more but I heard CODs and Combinations came out of a dj collection in Chicago and I would guess that of Lucky Cordell as I've bought stuff off him too and he did mention John to me but then everybody mentioned John to me which does get a bit wearing after a time.

I was in Mar-v-lus warehouse back in '79 and asked about both titles but blank looks unfortunately.

ROD

[SteveM]

Yes John's. Others may know more but I heard CODs and Combinations came out of a dj collection in Chicago and I would guess that of Lucky Cordell as I've bought stuff off him too and he did mention John to me but then everybody mentioned John to me which does get a bit wearing after a time.

I was in Mar-v-lus warehouse back in '79 and asked about both titles but blank looks unfortunately.

ROD

[Guest Byrney]

Re 3 Byrney. Bored ? Bored? aThe stock answer is " the musical direction *the scene was taking at the time wasn't for me, because while I like most black music genres, I'm basically a soul music fan"

Lets not have any of this bored, married, kids etc etc talk. How will the newbies ever learn ?

* You can of course insert, pop, house, disco, r n' b, rock and roll etc here.

*Can I insert Detroit Techno here I once played Joey Beltram at a soul night as a dare

Edited August 28, 2008 by Byrney

[pikeys dog]

It all begs the question...

When Ian Levine was trying to persuade himself straight, did he unwittingly help create Beeks?

The use of prose and overall attitude are remarkably similar.

[SteveM]

It all begs the question...

When Ian Levine was trying to persuade himself straight, did he unwittingly help create Beeks?

The use of prose and overall attitude are remarkably similar.

Oi. Find your own ******** to stalk

Edited August 28, 2008 by SteveM

[Guest Gavin Page]

4. Going downstairs at Bradford to listen to that there rave music

Bloody good room

[soulfulsaint]

I think I am a fully paid up, card carrying member of the 'Soul Police' ............because I beleive in trying to do the 'right thing'. Some people use the phrase to ridicule those that speak out about certain things on the NS scene that they disagree with...........as with everything there are extremes, but if trying to do your best to promote & enjoy the music we love in the traditional manner, these traditions having been passed down through the years & is generally excepted as being the norm & the correct etiquette is being a Soul Copper then........ allo, allo, allo.............. instead of seeing it as a slur I wear my constabulary badge with honour !!!!!!!!!!!!.

Russ

Thank you Russ. At last an honest man. Nothing wrong with maintaining standards in society. Better a bobby than a bootleg.

[kathdj]

I think I saw it this morning in the frozen foods gaff. It was called panga & the label said it was an 'acuicultura' product, country of origin: Vietnam. There were large white fillets. Is it better than Nile Perch?

Better than Nile Rodgers mate!!

[soulfulsaint]

I spose he is okay for a sweaty.

....careful lots of soul police around some of them keen on nabbing people who threaten to breach race relations legislation.

Since Jocko is featuring on this soul police thread. Maybe you should all no that his name is actually taken from the PIR 12" Rythmn Talk by the Philly DJ 'Jocko', a rap version of 'Aint No Stopping Us Now.' A far from criminal record.

But - is it legitimate to have a nickname from a 12" especially one with rap overtones? I think the Soul Police should decide?

[soulfulsaint]

As originator - can I request mods close this post please, has run its course, fun over too much bitching, and old debates.

[Guest]

As originator - can I request mods close this post please, has run its course, fun over too much bitching, and old debates.

scroll to the bottom of your page soulfulsaint and it says modrator function (or summit like that) and you can lock the topic (i think)

[Guest BIG H]

....careful lots of soul police around some of them keen on nabbing people who threaten to breach race relations legislation.

Since Jocko is featuring on this soul police thread. Maybe you should all no that his name is actually taken from the PIR 12" Rythmn Talk by the Philly DJ 'Jocko', a rap version of 'Aint No Stopping Us Now.' A far from criminal record.

But - is it legitimate to have a nickname from a 12" especially one with rap overtones? I think the Soul Police should decide?

The thing is i've actually heard Jocko play it out

And just to say i've known him for more years than we both would care to mention and is...........

A one the most forward thinking and open minded people on the scene

B has a record collection second to none embracing ALL genres of black underground dance music from 50's though to 2YK

C and is as home on the dancefloor of a nothern night as he is dancing to Derrick May djing at Pure

Only downside is he's a Hibee

[Jumpinjoan]

As originator - can I request mods close this post please, has run its course, fun over too much bitching, and old debates.

Hi Stuart,

As the thread starter, you can close the thread.

If you look on the left hand side after the last post there should be a box that says 'moderation options'.

If you click that it should come up 'close this topic'.

Click that and then click 'go' - and the thread should be 'locked'.

[macca]

Edited

Edited August 28, 2008 by macca

[Guest]

scroll to the bottom of your page soulfulsaint and it says modrator function (or summit like that) and you can lock the topic (i think)

or if you miss that post you can read jumpinjoan's