Ian Levine, Motorcity, Centre City, Blackpool Mecca, And Swons

[Paul-s]

as said many times if got something to say about this site then say it in feedback

tell you what i post reply to your pm there and to this save me doing it twice

STILL WAITING FOR THE REPLY MIKE?

[Guest moggy]

Dunno but I wish he'd broke the rest of the copies

Kill Me at times, yer pratt

[Pete S]

.. Along with Bobby Kline and a few others in your book.. Soul source is richer place with Pete Smith around..

Whats this ANS you talk about Pete???? tell me in a pm if its off topic stuff..

This one was just a joke Steve, I do like it really.

Hate Bobby Kline though.

ANS was or is a Northern Soul forum helmed at one time by Ian Levine

Edited September 5, 2008 by Pete S

[Guest moggy]

....there is loads more Mecca etc... stuff to talk about..........happy dayz,happy dayz.....

pete

Get some Photos up you old timer!

Andy.

Im getting worried about you, this bloody photo fetish you seem to have

[Guest]

This bird is from Scotland

More heartfelt soul than the 50 pages of tripe that has been posted up since...

You may not like some of them, that's your prerogative if you're judging fairly on the quality, and not on whether my name is linked to them or not, but if you then include stuff like this, and I most certainly posted several songs by her earlier in the thread, in comparison to Sharleen Spiteri, then you really are being biased and totally unfair. And your words "More heartfelt soul than the 50 pages of tripe that has been posted up since" show your true colours and your true motives, and reveal EXACTLY how objective you are being here.

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[Paul-s]

Plus, I believe in the music that I make with every fibre of my being.

I have no desire, none whatsoever, to go visit a club that wouldn't play one of my records. That's like throwing acid in my face.

BIT EGOTISTICAL IS IT NOT? A club has to play your records or you wont visit?

You did pay your dues, true. BUT that doesn't entitle you to comment on the scene NOW, if your not a part of it. It has changed and moved on since your day. How can you comment if you have NO idea whats going on. You dont even know whats being played.

There are three in particular that have really made me weary of it all. And wonder why I other. Then I listen back to Fay Jones singing "You Threw A Lucky Punch" and Nat Augustin singing "Love Is My Sanctuary", and I realise that no old bigoted closed minded fool can take away my joy at how great I think they sound, and how artistically and creatively satisfied I am with them.

Well, a bit of the old 'double standards here. Mike says I cant talk openly on here. So i stop. And then Levine points fingers agian. So, im going to answer, at the risk of the censorshhip on thisite removing it. The REASON ian that you are being questioned (you call it attacked) is because you came on here and attacked Joan and others. Can you explain WHY you feel its OK for you to do this and yet when its done to you, you whinge to the sites editors.? Simple question, answer it and I will duck out.

[Stevie]

Ady Croasdell and others with a rich history on the soul scene can come on the forum as a whole and just be a punter like the rest of us..

It does not seem to be the case for people like Ian Levine, Mr Goldsoul and that bloke who plays cds in a shopping center in Wigan... Why do they find it so hard to play ball on soul source???? i think i and many others know the answer...

They could have all joined the forum and just blend in with everyone else.. Maybe posting in different sections and just cutting the breeze..

Good post - IMO I think this pretty much sums up the reason(s) for much of the animosity.

[Pete S]

You may not like some of them, that's your prerogative if you're judging fairly on the quality, and not on whether my name is linked to them or not, but if you then include stuff like this, and I most certainly posted several songs by her earlier in the thread, in comparison to Sharleen Spiteri, then you really are being biased and totally unfair. And your words "More heartfelt soul than the 50 pages of tripe that has been posted up since" show your true colours and your true motives, and reveal EXACTLY how objective you are being here.

Superb singer - loved the record too til right at the end when the backing singers got too loud, but hey, I'm no record producer. Love the pizzicato strings at the end.

Re the Sharleen Spiteri record - I like her voice and I liked the sound of that track, but I thought the song lacked a decent chorus.

Pete Smith, Jukebox Jury, West Midlands

[Guest]

Thats fine Swifty, but for guys like James and myself we find this sub standard (generally) copycat imitation the complete opposite of what we want. As with most RnB and most modern, stuff I cant stand, if people want to like it, I couldnt give a rats, but I do object to be called closed minded or a fascist for not liking it.

Your calling it "substandard" in your first line immediately marks you out as closed minded. And thankfully, most of the members reading this thread will be able to see this for themselves as clear as day.

You may not like it, that much is painfully obvious, and I can't argue with that fact, but I am a professional record producer with a 33 year history. I have produced million selling records, I have won a Brit. I do not produce sub standard records. That is a slur on my artistic ability and technical competence. Yes you clearly don't like them, and you never would as long as my name is on the label or sleeve, that much is also painfully obvious, but that does not give you any right whatsoever to call them substandard and I deserve an apology, something which I imagine you would rather choke than utter.

[Prophonics 2029]

So one of the biggest critics and sabateours of the Rocket is standing outside handing out his own flyers. What a brass neck. If it'd been my venue I'd have set fire to his flyers.

Bloody hell, I bet all the clubs in London are less than 4 miles apart over 10 years I can think of 20 clubs with 50 to 300 attendances, it has a community feel to the place. A mix of people from Europe, America and all around the UK meet up and talk and dance to music they like or dislike, you can see flyers on the tables in the dimly lit rooms, pick them up to edge them into the light to get a glimse of the next step in the soul story.

I remember very clearly how the Rocket promoters handed out flyers in all our clubs. I think when you say saboteurs you are referring to the wrong side, and as for the criminal damage to the flyers I am astounded you said that. To me it sounds like the Jackboots have changed camp.

[Guest]

We find this sub standard copycat imitation the complete opposite of what we want.

Ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of what we call Northern Soul was conceived as "copycat imitation".

When Curtis Mayfield made "Can't Satisfy", you think he was writing a new and innovative song, do you ?????

Stevie Wonder claimed Motown was based on it.

[Guest]

Superb singer - loved the record too til right at the end when the backing singers got too loud, but hey, I'm no record producer. Love the pizzicato strings at the end.

Re the Sharleen Spiteri record - I like her voice and I liked the sound of that track, but I thought the song lacked a decent chorus.

Pete Smith, Jukebox Jury, West Midlands

Not Half!

Andy.

[Guest]

I see Paul S's anger very much like some of the Scenesville crowds anger when certain things were printed off and posted in the gents toilets on the mirrors and stalls.

And the minute I retaliated I was the bad guy.

[Paul-s]

Plus, I believe in the music that I make with every fibre of my being.

I have no desire, none whatsoever, to go visit a club that wouldn't play one of my records. That's like throwing acid in my face.

BIT EGOTISTICAL IS IT NOT? A club has to play your records or you wont visit?

You did pay your dues, true. BUT that doesn't entitle you to comment on the scene NOW, if your not a part of it. It has changed and moved on since your day. How can you comment if you have NO idea whats going on. You dont even know whats being played.

There are three in particular that have really made me weary of it all. And wonder why I other. Then I listen back to Fay Jones singing "You Threw A Lucky Punch" and Nat Augustin singing "Love Is My Sanctuary", and I realise that no old bigoted closed minded fool can take away my joy at how great I think they sound, and how artistically and creatively satisfied I am with them.

Well, a bit of the old 'double standards here. Mike says I cant talk openly on here. So i stop. And then Levine points fingers again. So, im going to answer, at the risk of the censorship on this site removing it. The REASON Ian that you are being questioned (you call it attacked) is because you came on here and attacked Joan and others. Can you explain WHY you feel its OK for you to do this and yet when its done to you, you whinge to the sites editors.? Simple question, answer it and I will duck out.

Still waiting for the answer to this ONE important question Ian. But, for the unprovoked attack you made on Joan, i wouldn't be on this thread. YOU and your music have NEVER been a part of my life and I dont feel YOU, as a person are worth the energy of replying. BUT, your hypocritical whinging and double standards when it comes to people questioning your rudeness and vitriol , are just too blatently out of order to sit down and shut up. So, dont make Pete answer for you, or Mr darcy ask for us to be removed, just a simple explaination of why you should be able to launch attacks on people , but not receive reciprocal treatment? A fair question i think?

[Pete S]

Bloody hell, I bet all the clubs in London are less than 4 miles apart over 10 years I can think of 20 clubs with 50 to 300 attendances, it has a community feel to the place. A mix of people from Europe, America and all around the UK meet up and talk and dance to music they like or dislike, you can see flyers on the tables in the dimly lit rooms, pick them up to edge them into the light to get a glimse of the next step in the soul story.

I remember very clearly how the Rocket promoters handed out flyers in all our clubs. I think when you say saboteurs you are referring to the wrong side, and as for the criminal damage to the flyers I am astounded you said that. To me it sounds like the Jackboots have changed camp.

I don't remember The Rocket promotors setting up a website to try to kill off attendances at the Dome.

[Paul-s]

Plus, I believe in the music that I make with every fibre of my being.

I have no desire, none whatsoever, to go visit a club that wouldn't play one of my records. That's like throwing acid in my face.

BIT EGOTISTICAL IS IT NOT? A club has to play your records or you wont visit?

You did pay your dues, true. BUT that doesn't entitle you to comment on the scene NOW, if your not a part of it. It has changed and moved on since your day. How can you comment if you have NO idea whats going on. You dont even know whats being played.

There are three in particular that have really made me weary of it all. And wonder why I other. Then I listen back to Fay Jones singing "You Threw A Lucky Punch" and Nat Augustin singing "Love Is My Sanctuary", and I realise that no old bigoted closed minded fool can take away my joy at how great I think they sound, and how artistically and creatively satisfied I am with them.

Well, a bit of the old 'double standards here. Mike says I cant talk openly on here. So i stop. And then Levine points fingers again. So, im going to answer, at the risk of the censorship on this site removing it. The REASON Ian that you are being questioned (you call it attacked) is because you came on here and attacked Joan and others. Can you explain WHY you feel its OK for you to do this and yet when its done to you, you whinge to the sites editors.? Simple question, answer it and I will duck out.

Still waiting for the answer to this ONE important question Ian. But, for the unprovoked attack you made on Joan, i wouldn't be on this thread. YOU and your music have NEVER been a part of my life and I dont feel YOU, as a person are worth the energy of replying. BUT, your hypocritical whinging and double standards when it comes to people questioning your rudeness and vitriol , are just too blatently out of order to sit down and shut up. So, dont make Pete answer for you, or Mr darcy ask for us to be removed, just a simple explaination of why you should be able to launch attacks on people , but not receive reciprocal treatment? A fair question i think?

waiting

[Guest Simon]

ANS was or is a Northern Soul forum helmed at one time by Ian Levine

.....Or ANuS as it was affectionately known!

Simon

[Guest]

I've never met Joan but through this site have grown to respect all she has done and stands for in regards to Northern Soul, and have known Mark B tho never spoken to him, and Dave Rimmer for longer than I care to remember. Seeing them cristicised is very similar to seeing the things about the Dome, 100 club etc back then. I think lessons should have been leant that aggressive comments are not going to be met with universal acceptance by the soul crowd, and if you are going to fire bullets, expect to be shot back at.

Or better still, dont fire them at all.

The people you mention have either bitterly attacked me or held me to ridicule or shown such a closed minded bias that I couldn't keep my mouth zipped.

Dave Rimmer called me an embarrassment and a disgrace to the Soul Scene.

Mark Bicknell, for years, has subtly continued a campaign of being initially critical, then dismissal, then refusing to get drawn into anything that mentions my name or my music, having previously already sown the seeds, then claiming it is of no relevance to him whatsoever. Very clever, very insidious, and very annoying and soul destroying, while never missing a trick to plug his own soul show, or go off on another one of his drama-queen, hissy-fits, "I Quit" tirades, waiting for everyone to beg him "Oh please come back Mark, we love you"..

[Guest]

Just had a browse on John Manships auction site

Nestled amongst some crackers half way down

Linda Jones : "Just Can't Live My Life" Warner Bros Issue

On his notes

Debuted by Ian Levine in the Highland room 1972

Love him or hate him

he certainly had an ear for some great tunes, and although widely accepted today as a truly fantastic sounding record, maybe a tadd slow for 72, amongst all the stompers and 100 mphers

so I have to dob my hat for having the balls to do that.

Now don't start attacking me Im just saying he has broke some great records in the past, thats all Im saying

This has been my Favorite all time Northern Soul single, Incidentally her other two Northern outings with the exception of "I'm so glad I found You", Namely "You hit me like TNT" and "My heart needs a break" I also heard for the first time at The Mecca.

By the way a new album out soon "Soul Talkin"

Andy.

PS

Anyone want to borrow me some money on the never never for George Pep Pleazzzzzze

[Pete S]

So, dont make Pete answer for you

Not sure what this means but I haven't spoken or corresponded with Ian for weeks before he joined Soul Source so he's not pulling my strings like some Thunderbird puppet you can bet if I disagreed with him - or anyone for that matter - I would not be frightened to say so and never have been.

[Guest]

Silly question but if he wasn't intending to go in, what was he doing outside the Rocket, just happened to be passing at the same time the nighter was starting did he?

I must have also imagined a website set up called Stephensons Rocket who's sole aim was to undermine what was happening at The Rocket.

I must have imagined the same thing too, Smiffy.

[Guest]

Silly question but if he wasn't intending to go in, what was he doing outside the Rocket, just happened to be passing at the same time the nighter was starting did he?

I must have also imagined a website set up called Stephensons Rocket who's sole aim was to undermine what was happening at The Rocket.

I don't think I could stomach this thread if you weren't here Smiffy.

While I don't always agree with you, I think you're a fabulous guy and one of the fairest I have met, and you make the world a better place.

Thankyou for being you.

[Guest]

Nick was handing out flyers for Scenesville

After him putting up "Levine Must Go" posters in Scenesville, I'm not quite certain how fair it seems that he came down to the Rocket to hand out Scenesville fliers.

Do you think HONESTLY think that was playing the game fairly ????

[Pete S]

I don't think I could stomach this thread if you weren't here Smiffy.

While I don't always agree with you, I think you're a fabulous guy and one of the fairest I have met, and you make the world a better place.

Thankyou for being you.

Well...thank you

[Guest]

So one of the biggest critics and sabateours of the Rocket is standing outside handing out his own flyers. What a brass neck. If it'd been my venue I'd have set fire to his flyers.

Fabulous.

Just FABULOUS.

[Guest moggy]

Your calling it "substandard" in your first line immediately marks you out as closed minded. And thankfully, most of the members reading this thread will be able to see this for themselves as clear as day.

You may not like it, that much is painfully obvious, and I can't argue with that fact, but I am a professional record producer with a 33 year history. I have produced million selling records, I have won a Brit. I do not produce sub standard records. That is a slur on my artistic ability and technical competence. Yes you clearly don't like them, and you never would as long as my name is on the label or sleeve, that much is also painfully obvious, but that does not give you any right whatsoever to call them substandard and I deserve an apology, something which I imagine you would rather choke than utter.

Why oh Why do you have to be so confrontational again

Mikey has his opinion, he is entitled to that, yourself and I imagine a great many others fail to see where he is coming from, and your reply was up until the last few sentences an excellent reply, not only giving us your thoughts on why he dislikes your productions but also a little insight into your past workings.

But to say you deserve an apology, and not knowing Mikey you assume he would rather choke than utter such a word, beggers belief.

Had you not have written those closing lines, I have no doubt Mikey would have replied with his reasons as to why they were substandard to him, and to assume he is unable to apologize, deserves an apology to Mikey

You realy do need to calm down Ian, everything we do in life will make someone have an opinion, doesn't mean there right, doesn't mean were right, it's just how it is.

[Guest Trevski]

Your calling it "substandard" in your first line immediately marks you out as closed minded. And thankfully, most of the members reading this thread will be able to see this for themselves as clear as day.

You may not like it, that much is painfully obvious, and I can't argue with that fact, but I am a professional record producer with a 33 year history. I have produced million selling records, I have won a Brit. I do not produce sub standard records. That is a slur on my artistic ability and technical competence. Yes you clearly don't like them, and you never would as long as my name is on the label or sleeve, that much is also painfully obvious, but that does not give you any right whatsoever to call them substandard and I deserve an apology, something which I imagine you would rather choke than utter.

Surely Ian, this is Mikey's personal opinion, and to say substandard depends on what the standard is with Mikey. I know you are proud if your work, and rightly so, anyone would be, but others don't have to like it, and because they don't doesn't mean they are of closed minds. It really is just a matter of where you set the bar, what you apply as your personal standard. I offer an example, as I see it, from another perspective to try and clarify my point. Christian Ronaldo may well be a brilliant footballer, but, it you set George Best as the standard, then, brilliant as Ronaldo is, he will always be substandard compared to Best, (imho) That doesn't mean closed minds, it's just a matter of personal taste and standards. Probably on of my top female vocals is Monique-"If you love me (show me) Maurci. measuring your records against that as my standard, yours don't measure up, for me. That doesn't mean they are bad, it doesn't mean they are not good in their own right, It does not slur your competance as a producer, they just don't reach my standard of what a great female vocal is, irrespective of who made it. If that makes me closed minded, then I admit guilt!

Edited September 5, 2008 by Trevski

[Prophonics 2029]

I don't remember The Rocket promotors setting up a website to try to kill off attendances at the Dome.

Did they I never new that.

[Peter99]

I don't think I could stomach this thread if you weren't here Smiffy.

While I don't always agree with you, I think you're a fabulous guy and one of the fairest I have met, and you make the world a better place.

Thankyou for being you.

Smiffy is a blaggard and a cad!

[Guest]

Silly question but if he wasn't intending to go in, what was he doing outside the Rocket, just happened to be passing at the same time the nighter was starting did he?

I must have also imagined a website set up called Stephensons Rocket who's sole aim was to undermine what was happening at The Rocket.

Tragically, the people who can most corroborate my facts have all been banned for Soul Source, and mainly for defending me.

[Peter99]

You realy do need to calm down Ian, everything we do in life will make someone have an opinion, doesn't mean there right, doesn't mean were right, it's just how it is.

How very dare you! You know I'm always right Moggy!

[Guest]

It's hardly the crime of the century Pete, there were a lot worse actions from the other side like getting our all night licence revoked.

You're getting into dangerous territory here. I knew nothing of this, and your allegations are both very seriously false, and very seriously misleading.

[Pete S]

many people connected with Scenesville and The Dome made it their business to see that The Rocket failed solely because of Ian Levine's involvement.

A rival allnighter was set up specifically to clash with The Rocket.

Emails from Ian Levine were photocopied and blown up in size and posted all over The Dome.

An anti-Rocket website was set up for all and sundry to slag off Levine and The Rocket.

[Prophonics 2029]

After him putting up "Levine Must Go" posters in Scenesville, I'm not quite certain how fair it seems that he came down to the Rocket to hand out Scenesville fliers.

Do you think HONESTLY think that was playing the game fairly ????

Sticks and stones may break my bones.

I cant get that Donna Williams track out of my heed it almost brings you to tears when I play it Hummm.

[Epic]

....there is loads more Mecca etc... stuff to talk about..........happy dayz,happy dayz.....

pete

Get some Photos up you old timer!

Andy.

The one of Ian in his white "boiler suit" will be shown unless he meets our ransom demands.

[Pete S]

Did they I never new that.

Ask Greg, Stuart etc. They'll remember it well.

It was a piss-take - but not funny if you were Ian or anyone else involved in The Rocket

p.s. I did go to The Dome and I loved it though the cloakroom girl was a bit of a boiler

Edited September 5, 2008 by Pete S

[Pete S]

Ah, another normal day at the office

stay cool everyone

[Prophonics 2029]

many people connected with Scenesville and The Dome made it their business to see that The Rocket failed solely because of Ian Levine's involvement.

A rival allnighter was set up specifically to clash with The Rocket.

Emails from Ian Levine were photocopied and blown up in size and posted all over The Dome.

An anti-Rocket website was set up for all and sundry to slag off Levine and The Rocket.

How do you know as you say you weren't there.

If you had internet connection you would be able to join in the so called hate campaign but a majority of us didn't have internet access.

Huurr if non of the London crowed go to Ian's club but have a club of their own to go to the night of Ian's club then why should attendances of Ian's club be down when the London crowed never went in the first place. Hurr huurrrr.

Edited September 5, 2008 by Prophonics 2029

[Prophonics 2029]

Ask Greg, Stuart etc. They'll remember it well.

It was a piss-take - but not funny if you were Ian or anyone else involved in The Rocket

p.s. I did go to The Dome and I loved it though the cloakroom girl was a bit of a boiler

A Bunny boiler

I never missed one Dome did you sell records their Pete or just attend.

[Guest]

The god complex will not go down well with members.. Mr Roberts came on here playing that game and got shot down in flames...

Kev Roberts is a wonderful guy, who has championed soul music for thirty five years, discovered artists, discovered wonderful records, been a slick and professional DJ, brought our music to a wider audience, played ultra rarities but also played Sidney Barnes and Ronnie McNeir, brought in new recordings like Chairman Of The Board, and made most of the soul scene more open minded outside of the hardcore purists clubs who never would be anyway, and flown people over to the States to see the likes Of Alexander Patton perform, has lost money on gigs yet been accused of being a rip-off merchant, and has been one of the most outstanding people and best friends a man could ever wish for.

I find the years of bitter criticism aimed at him on this forum to be nothing short of excruciating, but as the recipient of much of the same criticism by a few with Marxist tendencies, who view anyone who uses the Northern Soul scene as a business, and dares to charge money for what he does, as the antichrist, and naturally I have great sympathy with him.

This forum is not the nicest of places always, and many so called fans stand on a soapbox to criticise without giving and due care to the hurt they cause.

I love Kev Roberts like a brother, and would defend him with my dying breath.

[Mike]

Tragically, the people who can most corroborate my facts have all been banned for Soul Source, and mainly for defending me.

bollocks

nothing to do with you

it should be all still up on here somewhere

do you want me to post links ?

more than happy to do so

[Pete S]

How do you know as you say you weren't there.

If you had internet connection you would be able to join in the so called hate campaign but a majority of us didn't have internet access.

No the majority of people did have interenet access. How do I know, because I know most of the people involved, or did do. Not in the sense I was in some kind of weird inner circle but I do or did know a lot of people back then.

[Little-stevie]

Your calling it "substandard" in your first line immediately marks you out as closed minded. And thankfully, most of the members reading this thread will be able to see this for themselves as clear as day.

You may not like it, that much is painfully obvious, and I can't argue with that fact, but I am a professional record producer with a 33 year history. I have produced million selling records, I have won a Brit. I do not produce sub standard records. That is a slur on my artistic ability and technical competence. Yes you clearly don't like them, and you never would as long as my name is on the label or sleeve, that much is also painfully obvious, but that does not give you any right whatsoever to call them substandard and I deserve an apology, something which I imagine you would rather choke than utter.

A brit award or anything like that don't matter a jot on here Ian.. Your songs will be treated like all other soul songs we talk about.. Some will think they are nice and some will think they are sub standard....

I am sure there are some who have an axe to grind with you and would not give you any credit but many others are just judging each record that you post up... I can see a good production but still not like the outcome and thats the case with a good few of your choices, they don't make me wanna rush for the off button but they don't grab me by the balls either...

Thats what i want with music, something to give that feeling we can't always put into words.. Maybe some real depth in the voice,despair, anger, raw power and much more...A lot of these productions just pass me by.. It was the same with so much of the Acid Jazz stuff in the 90s, quite liked a good bit of that at the time but it was here today gone tomorrow for me with many of those tunes... I picked up a record a few years ago and did not know it was one of your productions before i had played it a few times, it sounded pretty good in the small bars that we played at.. "Half a man", not heard it anot sure in what box i have it now, not been played in a long while... Can we have a soundclip of that, would like to see if i still like it..

With regards to a lot of your music.......Don't hate them but don't rate them.. And i aint got a closed mind..

regards

Steve

[Pete S]

Kev Roberts is a wonderful guy, who has championed soul music for thirty five years, discovered artists, discovered wonderful records, been a slick and professional DJ, brought our music to a wider audience, played ultra rarities but also played Sidney Barnes and Ronnie McNeir, brought in new recordings like Chairman Of The Board, and made most of the soul scene more open minded outside of the hardcore purists clubs who never would be anyway, and flown people over to the States to see the likes Of Alexander Patton perform, has lost money on gigs yet been accused of being a rip-off merchant, and has been one of the most outstanding people and best friends a man could ever wish for.

I find the years of bitter criticism aimed at him on this forum to be nothing short of excruciating, but as the recipient of much of the same criticism by a few with Marxist tendencies, who view anyone who uses the Northern Soul scene as a business, and dares to charge money for what he does, as the antichrist, and naturally I have great sympathy with him.

This forum is not the nicest of places always, and many so called fans stand on a soapbox to criticise without giving and due care to the hurt they cause.

I love Kev Roberts like a brother, and would defend him with my dying breath.

They don't like Kev because they believe that money is his only motivation. Simple as that.

[Guest Simon]

Thankyou for being you.

Well...thank you

[chrissie]

Ah, another normal day at the office

stay cool everyone

Being off sick for a long time can be boring, when I was ill at the end of June beg July I was lucky (IMHO) it was during wimbledon fortnight, this time not only have I had the olympics but this thread to keep me amused

QoFxx

[Pete S]

You're just jealous

[Guest]

ANS was or is a Northern Soul forum helmed at one time by Ian Levine

It's still going, still popular, still controversial, never stopped, eight years old almost, and still helmed by me.

[Guest Trevski]

They don't like Kev because they believe that money is his only motivation. Simple as that.

Nothing to do with the high and mighty "How dare you question me, you no-body, I have done blah, blah, blah" attitude then...

I don't give a flying f**k what anyone has or hasn't done, with regard to contributing to the scene, it doesn't make them better than anyone else, or give them the right to talk down to anyone. That's why I, and I suspect many others, don't like Kev, nothing to do with money.

Edited September 5, 2008 by Trevski

[Prophonics 2029]

No the majority of people did have interenet access. How do I know, because I know most of the people involved, or did do. Not in the sense I was in some kind of weird inner circle but I do or did know a lot of people back then.

I now have this vision of you like Gandolf the all seeing wise one.

It was years ago and internet was different slower and 80 I bet was word of mouth.

I only had a few remarks passed down via the old ways about internet espionage and that was from the main contractors.

Mainly what blah blah had done or said with regard to the Uno what.

Edited September 5, 2008 by Prophonics 2029