Souled Out The Film

[Guest]

Ian - all new members are expected to do an intro, perhaps that would be a better place to discuss your role in the soul scene than a topic which is about something else.

I already discussed this with Mike by private e-mail.

And I am merely directly answering questions.

And I only joined because some of the comments on this topic offended every fibre of my being.

And I'm no hypocrite and I'm not going to behave in any fashion that's not true to myself. If therefore you'd like me to leave again, no probs.

[Baz Atkinson]

Ive kept of this debate,again spending 95% of my soul source time in the media section for the music,I would like to say this however it is f--king great to hear from I an Levine,listen and learn folks!!!!

BAZ A

[Guest Roddy]

jock you are far too busy promoting your fringe show ! you better get up the royal mile and hand some flyers out !

[Wiganer1]

Im heading out the door to Stoke now for a seven hour bus journey from Brighton.

Im actually looking forward to the filming tomorrow. I reckon this will be a good film from what I've read about it. As long as the clips of the club scenes feature original Northern Soul then Im all for it.

Surely the producers are trying to be authentic in their portrayal of the Wigan Casino if they are consulting regulars and people involved with the Casino and the Soul scene.

There is so much begrudgery towards a film that no one has seen. Like I said earlier people should wait until its out. Perhaps this film will get some genuine interest in young people about Northern Soul. Surely thats a good thing and something the artists would appreciate. After all they made the music so that people could listen to it.

I will let you know how it all fairs out. See some of you down at the King's Hall in the morning.

==========

all the best Andy

have a great day!!

hope u get in the film!

[Pete S]

OK, hate having to be so sensible and I can't even begin to pick my way through all the off-topic posts, but can we please use this thread for talking about THE FILM.

All members are expected to keep to the forum house rules - https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forum-house-rules - should be fresh in everyone's mind since they were updated recently

Ian - all new members are expected to do an intro, perhaps that would be a better place to discuss your role in the soul scene than a topic which is about something else.

Give the point scoring a rest Rachel, do you really think there is any point in Ian going to the intros section and writing hello my name is Ian levine, we all know who he is

[Guest]

name='paultp' date='Aug 22 08, 10:00 AM' post='847034']

While we're on the subject of wafters in and outers, does your arrival on this forum and this particular thread possibly have anything to do with some involvement in "ipso facto" (sorry ) and/or the film? Or is this just another opportunity to promote your awful CD's - NS 2007 and the worse follow up NS 2008.

After the post of yours which I quoted, this is exactly what I expected in return.

The Soul Police are nothing if not consistent.

As for my "awful" CDs, three million people on YouTube disgree with you, and I have more fans who adore what I do than I have members of Soul Source who go out of their way to actively criticise.

Edited August 22, 2008 by Ian Levine

[jocko]

jock you are far too busy promoting your fringe show ! you better get up the royal mile and hand some flyers out !

Tried that and didn't like it, going for the direct mailing approach now. When are you coming?

She was fantastic last night, honest.

Sorry last off topic post from me, but will say before I go Mr Levine's comments about soul police sort of shatter my inferiority complex theory!

[Simsy]

Give the point scoring a rest Rachel, do you really think there is any point in Ian going to the intros section and writing hello my name is Ian levine, we all know who he is

She's just doing what she should do, the terms apply to everyone. What part of that don't you and him understand?

[Guest sarahleen]

no one has tried to"dictate " what music should be played in this film , people where asked their opinion and gave it .

i have not seen one post saying they do not think it should have original songs by original artists. the control of a group by the majority of its members is called democracy NOT fascism.

the debate in this thread is lively , passonate , and bloody hilarious, its a shame some people seem to have lost their sense of humour

i rather object to being called a fascist, but hey thats freedom of speech

[Russ Vickers]

I think its about time we all got this in perspective & got back on thread, IL has given his opinion, as have others, dont agree with some of the stuff, do with others.......so lets get back to 'Souled Out' & less of the off topic sniping & the personal attacks from all concerened.

Russ

[Guest Beeks]

no one has tried to"dictate " what music should be played in this film , people where asked their opinion and gave it .

i have not seen one post saying they do not think it should have original songs by original artists. the control of a group by the majority of its members is called democracy NOT fascism.

the debate in this thread is lively , passonate , and bloody hilarious, its a shame some people seem to have lost their sense of humour

i rather object to being called a fascist, but hey thats freedom of speech

Im disappointed in you Sarah...you've been on here 2 minutes and you're starting to sound like the worst of the Soul Snobs on here...thought better of you to be honest

[Simsy]

As for my "awful" CDs, three million people on YouTube disgree with you, and I have more fans who adore what I do than I have members of Soul Source who go out of their way to actively criticise.

I think you should do an intro. That way people could reply to things like the above and still be on topic.

Did every one of those three million YouTuber's leave positive comments? Hits don't equal fans.

Edited August 22, 2008 by Simsy

[Guest sarahleen]

god cant wait to get home from work , this is great debate x

[Guest rachel]

I think you should do an intro. That way people could reply to things like the above and still be on topic.

That's what I was trying to say, well actually that's what I thought I said!

Pete - I'm not the slightest bit interested in point scoring, just applying the forum rules fairly and equally to everyone.

[Guest]

Im heading out the door to Stoke now for a seven hour bus journey from Brighton.

Im actually looking forward to the filming tomorrow. I reckon this will be a good film from what I've read about it. As long as the clips of the club scenes feature original Northern Soul then Im all for it.

Surely the producers are trying to be authentic in their portrayal of the Wigan Casino if they are consulting regulars and people involved with the Casino and the Soul scene.

There is so much begrudgery towards a film that no one has seen. Like I said earlier people should wait until its out. Perhaps this film will get some genuine interest in young people about Northern Soul. Surely thats a good thing and something the artists would appreciate. After all they made the music so that people could listen to it.

I will let you know how it all fairs out. See some of you down at the King's Hall in the morning.

Well said Andy.... despite feeling slightly more cynical (after reading a lot of the negative posts on a thread,which I'm definitely not reading any more! ) I'm still going tomorrow,just for the experience and hopefully will have an objective opinion afterwards (I doubt anyone will give two hoots what I think actually,as I dont have the soul credentials of the likes of Ian Levine/ Keb Darge/ Mark Bicknall (check those three names so close together! ) but then again,fortunately that doesnt bother me either! See you tomorrow mate.

Edited August 22, 2008 by Delasoul

[Guest Trevski]

As for my "awful" CDs, three million people on YouTube disgree with you, and I have more fans who adore what I do than I have members of Soul Source who go out of their way to actively criticise.

Come on Ian, less of the 'three million' please. Just because you have 3,000,000. views doesn't mean everyone liked it! Last year 1.2 million people visited Madame Tussauds, doesn't mean they all thought it was great. Maybe you do actually have more people that like what you do than don't, but to keep quoting the magic 3,000,000. as if they agree with you is preposterous.

[paultp]

After the post of yours which I quoted, this is exactly what I expected in return.

The Soul Police are nothing if not consistent.

As for my "awful" CDs, three million people on YouTube disgree with you, and I have more fans who adore what I do than I have members of Soul Source who go out of their way to actively criticise.

I shouldn't have mentioned your CD's should I as I've just given you another opportunity to promote them, doh!

I don't really see myself as the Soul Police but it is an easy term to bandy about. After all this is more Soul Police like:

"And now I am here to not let you get away with your closed minded strangulation of a beautiful music form"

You called me a facist so I thought I should respond, as to be honest that is just a tad over the top but not unexpected from you. I doubt you have even started given your previous form on personal insults. On this thread you have already started dishing it out to all and sundry and there'll be worse to come I'm sure.

I haven't gone out of my way to criticise, I just don't like those CD's. Apart from the content of them which wasn't to my personal taste, I thought using the title Northern Soul 2007/8 was really a bit of a mis-description (if that's a word - it should be if it isn't) cos they didn't have anything to do with Northern Soul to my ears and didn't seem to be very representative in my opinion.

But it's a wide and fractional scene and so it doesn't really matter what I personally think does it? If three million people like them then they must be good, I'm pleased for you if they have sold that many.

The words "Northern Soul" obviously sell things at the moment which was my original point.

Edit: That last bit was the on-topic bit.

Edited August 22, 2008 by paultp

[Guest in town Mikey]

Sorry to hear that mate, you don't wanna buy a Northern Soul alarm clock do ya squire?

Simon

My fave post of the whole thread. Sums up some peoples affiliation with what they think the Northern Soul scene is.

I take it you have the Brand leader in mind Simon.

my twopence worth.

A film about Northern Soul shouldnt be done (am I a facist yet?). I wont go to watch it as it will have nothing to do with me.

But anyone who does go, I hope they enjoy it.

[macca]

Soul Source is rather like a microcosm of an all-nighter late 1976. If you wander around those dimly lit alcoves, you'll see venerated scene sages poring over stone tablets, pontificating on varied aspects of scene law (sic) to awe-struck neophytes. Their constant farting in chapel and jockeying for the front pews provide the seasoned 'moscas cojoneras' (the flies that annoyingly buzz around the gonad region in summer) with an opportunity to engage in a bit of 'light entertainment' at the expense of chemically deranged. In of the darker areas of the hall, especially in the khasi, looms the real fauna, the cloven hooved beasts with the sulphurous breath, whose company we soon learn to steer well clear of. You can almost smell their presence & it's always best not to look them directly in the eye for fear of being abducted. Pan's Labryinth's got nothing on this place, it's definitely not a haunt for the faint of heart. I'd just like to think that there's room for all of us, but than again maybe I've probably had too much coffee this morning.

[Guest Trevski]

Im disappointed in you Sarah...you've been on here 2 minutes and you're starting to sound like the worst of the Soul Snobs on here...thought better of you to be honest

Give the girl a break Beeks, you only joined the month before. Pot and kettle? Sarah's opinion is a valid as anyone elses', how long she has been a member has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[paultp]

My fave post of the whole thread. Sums up some peoples affiliation with what they think the Northern Soul scene is.

I take it you have the Brand leader in mind Simon.

my twopence worth.

A film about Northern Soul shouldnt be done (am I a facist yet?). I wont go to watch it as it will have nothing to do with me.

But anyone who does go, I hope they enjoy it.

Mikey,

You say the things I mean in a far better way than I do, hat tipped

Cheers

Paul

[pikeys dog]

but than again maybe I've probably had too much coffee this morning.

i'll take a mug of whatever Java you've been a-swiggin this morn.

[Guest in town Mikey]

Mikey,

You say the things I mean in a far better way than I do, hat tipped

Cheers

Paul

Cheers bud.

Its not like me to use 20 words about something I care passionately about, when I could use 2000.

[macca]

It's Brazilian Pikey, bought last week in a one horse, adobe-walled town called Taroudannt in Morocco.

I'm beginning to think it's been laced with kiff though. :-)

[Guest Beeks]

Give the girl a break Beeks, you only joined the month before. Pot and kettle? Sarah's opinion is a valid as anyone elses', how long she has been a member has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Yeah but I know Sarah and I know she's not like that in real life

[Stevie]

Soul Source is rather like a microcosm of an all-nighter late 1976.

Feels a bit like 5am at the moment. Just been out for a breath of air, come back in and the dance floors quietening down. Needs someone to play a few stompers and get things going again

[Guest]

Soul Source is rather like a microcosm of an all-nighter late 1976. If you wander around those dimly lit alcoves, you'll see venerated scene sages poring over stone tablets, pontificating on varied aspects of scene law (sic) to awe-struck neophytes. Their constant farting in chapel and jockeying for the front pews provide the seasoned 'moscas cojoneras' (the flies that annoyingly buzz around the gonad region in summer) with an opportunity to engage in a bit of 'light entertainment' at the expense of chemically deranged. In of the darker areas of the hall, especially in the khasi, looms the real fauna, the cloven hooved beasts with the sulphurous breath, whose company we soon learn to steer well clear of. You can almost smell their presence & it's always best not to look them directly in the eye for fear of being abducted. Pan's Labryinth's got nothing on this place, it's definitely not a haunt for the faint of heart. I'd just like to think that there's room for all of us, but than again maybe I've probably had too much coffee this morning.

hope the film is as good as your post brillant much better than the moaners on here ,now were was I ah yes back to listening (and not moaning) about soul

[Guest in town Mikey]

As usual I cant keep quiet for too long.

The way I see it is there are two poles, with most people somewhere in the middle or leaning slightly to one pole or the other.

I'm quite polar in my belief that the Northern Soul scene is best in its underground, exclusiveness. I revel in the fact I meet people my age, (mid 40s) who haven't heard of it. Elitist? Maybe, but for the right reasons IMO.

Ian is at the opposite end. he wants (if I am reading his posts right and taking personality out of it) Northern Soul to be spread so that it reaches as many ears as possible.

I can understand that. to a point. As long as its for the music's good. When it becomes a financial cash cow for people not into the music then it goes too far. And that's why I am totally against efforts like this. i believe its a Pandora's box.

I remember back in the late 70s, the mod revival. It really opened my eyes to how corporate money grabbers will corrupt anything just to make a buck. I remember for one thing a Silhouette of the guy on a Vespa from the mods Mayday album, being silhouetted onto a sew on parka badge reading LAMBRETTA.

Since then I've seen how scenes like the blitz kids have had their music stolen from them. how Rave became mainstream and how indie became about mega bands on major labels.

Thats what I think these efforts only end up doing. Where northern Soul, and the artists, producers etc of the music we love to benefit I'd see that as a major positive. but having the music stolen so faceless people can earn a nice Xmas bonus is not what I want to see.

So Ian (sorry to address it directly to you) I am so far opposed to this project I'd be your Genghis Khan hate figure. Efforts like this are poison to the things I found magical about Northern Soul as a 13 year old kid.

My view and yours are totally different, but I think Soul Source is at its very best when people are so opposed. As long as the passion for the music doesn't spill into passionate verbal or typed assaults, SS performs the perfect platform to air the views.

I'm not against northern Soul promoting itself. but I think that should be done at Soul Nights and Allnighters where the scene and the music is touchable. Its a place where interested parties can come and sample for themselves.

i believe Ady c has the perfect way of going about it. introducing people to the music via Kent, and supporting venues as well as running his own.

Taking our underground scene repeatedly to mass media sources has never in my opinion done anything positive at all for Northern Soul.

I hope you are successful in your project. I hope that somehow the artists we love listening to make some compensation for the rest of the world not being as lucky as us.

But if this is an attempt just to make yourself money, massage your ego, and somehow bring up your personal standing by bringing Northern Soul out into the mainstream, then I cant support you one bit I'm afraid.

Northern Soul doesnt need the oxygen of cinemaplex's across the world. The longevity of the scene comes from the people within, still turning up new sounds.

To me this post sounds fair. To others it may sound elitist and/or fascist. I cant help that.

As long as the Northern Soul scene doesn't suffer from this exposure then all will be good. I don't have the confidence it wont somehow be tarnished.

[Modernsoulsucks]

Im probably only echoing Ady's comment but I think Ian has jumped in here without actually taking in what started the unease in the first place.

The original suggested playlist posted was not particularly representative to my mind of Wigan. I guess it was the same for a few on here. All we asked was that it be authentic to the period and if that means Nosmo King then fine. It can't be that hard to look through a few old fanzines to get something together rather than relying on 30 year old personal memories which of course would have filtered out those records that didn't appeal at the time but were nevertheless extremely popular.

This was of course confounded by the reference to material from Duffy etc which if used in the actual Wigan scenes as a soundtrack to the dancing would for some dilute the effect.

OK Keb and others seem to have got involved and sorted that concern. Im pretty sure that Ian,had the Mecca been the setting, would equally have been engaged to get that right.

Secondly it's slightly unsettling to see your own recollections subsumed into this generic view of ALL of us being the same with our talc,overnight bags and badges. If anything I would have thought the NS attracted all types but the film-makers appear to be going for a uniform look accompanied by synchronised dancing.

One of the few dancers who stood out for me was "Malcolm" always down at the front of the stage. He always looked as if he was dancing to the record that was on before the one he was actually dancing to at the time. If Keb wants a challenge....... .

Finally to come on here as Ian has done and engage in puerile comments such as "wanna have sex" doesn't actually contribute much to the debate.

ROD

[Our Kid]

Im probably only echoing Ady's comment but I think Ian has jumped in here without actually taking in what started the unease in the first place.

The original suggested playlist posted was not particularly representative to my mind of Wigan. I guess it was the same for a few on here. All we asked was that it be authentic to the period and if that means Nosmo King then fine. It can't be that hard to look through a few old fanzines to get something together rather than relying on 30 year old personal memories which of course would have filtered out those records that didn't appeal at the time but were nevertheless extremely popular.

This was of course confounded by the reference to material from Duffy etc which if used in the actual Wigan scenes as a soundtrack to the dancing would for some dilute the effect.

OK Keb and others seem to have got involved and sorted that concern. Im pretty sure that Ian,had the Mecca been the setting, would equally have been engaged to get that right.

Secondly it's slightly unsettling to see your own recollections subsumed into this generic view of ALL of us being the same with our talc,overnight bags and badges. If anything I would have thought the NS attracted all types but the film-makers appear to be going for a uniform look accompanied by synchronised dancing.

One of the few dancers who stood out for me was "Malcolm" always down at the front of the stage. He always looked as if he was dancing to the record that was on before the one he was actually dancing to at the time. If Keb wants a challenge....... .

Finally to come on here as Ian has done and engage in puerile comments such as "wanna have sex" doesn't actually contribute much to the debate.

ROD

That's what makes him legendary!!!

Paul

[Winnie :-)]

Anybody would think there was a film in the offing...........

[Jumpinjoan]

It's those few I see - Tomangoes, Pikey's Dog, Steve Guarnori, Mark Bicknell, Jumping Joan, Black And White, etc etc etc, who are so possessive of their unique scene of rare records and soul collectors, that they deny the music any chance to exist in another thirty years.

With respect Ian, your only contact with the northern soul scene these days is via the internet - so in a way I can understand why you have such a poor opinion of it.

Now, I have to admit to being very flattered by the fact that you are so bothered by me.

But that said, I am not the least bit possessive. Passionate? Most definitely.

My only gripe with this film has been whether they use the original music by the original artists.

Now, while my persistence with this point has been annoying to some on here, I felt it a reasonable question that was worthy of being asked.

I'm sure I am not alone in thinking this film has all the markings of being a cringe fest.

But I will be the first person to hold my hands up and say I was wrong if it isn't. In fact - I would delight in being able to do so!

But for me that will never happen if the music used in the film is by Duffy, Weller and co.

Now while there are many people on here who aren't the least bit bothered about this - I don't feel I should have to apologise for not being one of them.

Surely everybody is entitled to their opinion?

[Guest]

Why personal sniping ? I do hope you are not sick and that you can't help but post these kinds

of mails, if so do get better soon.............

Well said Chris.

Lets make a stand against the trolls. It's high time they stopped fooling the public that their view is the popular one.

[Guest]

Eh? Ian's not at the forefront of making changes though unless you mean making modern NS soundalike music, he's not really been a big player since the 7ts.

Tut tut.

YOU should know better.

When does a song become a soundalike ??

What bloody RUBBISH !!!!!!!!!

If it sounds like Northern Soul, it IS Northern Soul

If it quacks like a duck and flies like a duck and farts like a duck, it IS a phucking duck.

Northern Soul is a musical genre, no matter when it was recorded. It doesn't have to be forty years old and discovered by a sixty five year old schoolteacher to qualify.

[Wiganer1]

Tut tut.

YOU should know better.

When does a song become a soundalike ??

What bloody RUBBISH !!!!!!!!!

If it sounds like Northern Soul, it IS Northern Soul

If it quacks like a duck and flies like a duck and farts like a duck, it IS a phucking duck.

Northern Soul is a musical genre, no matter when it was recorded. It doesn't have to be forty years old and discovered by a sixty five year old schoolteacher to qualify.

===============

WIGAN CASINO IN COLOUR - NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE!!!!!

[Guest]

And what should the Northern scene be about other than discovering new records, is that not whole the point of the scene? Once that is gone you are left with a lot of flybynights here until the next big thing comes along.................

It should be about enjoying a certain sound and a certain calibre of artist, without bias or blinkers.

Nicole Willis and The Soul Investigators gave me as much of a buzz as Skip Jackson and The Shantons.

[Guest]

Give the point scoring a rest Rachel, do you really think there is any point in Ian going to the intros section and writing hello my name is Ian levine, we all know who he is

I love you, Pete. I really do. I wish there were more like you.

[bri phill]

I read the initial thread and the first few postings a few days ago and thought a film on the way,so ok.

This morning sees a thread about Mark Bicknell resigning (who contributes a lot to this site)amd thought what's all that about which drew me back into this thread.

I've not read all posts ecause unlike some have got a life to lead.

It's a commercial film not a documentary yes it wants authenticity but it doesn't have to be the to the most minute detail.

The film makers are going for the wider audience they have to make money and are just tapping into the NS scene because of a point of difference with other British films.

Using some of todays popular artist will help the commercial viability so it makes sense but this will also help the original artist also used in the sountrack through reaching a wider audience.

In the early 60's when the Rolling Stones and the rest started coveing black R&B tunes some purist wern't to happy but that helped the chicago blues men and the Motown R&B acts.

The same thing with soul acts a little later.

So youv'e got to look at the bigger picture(no smart cracks) the original artists will receive some benefit via extra CD sales and thats more important than anything else.

The other benefit I hope it results in a few new faces on the scene if the soul police don't scare them off.

I personally don't like the pigeon holed view of NS being portrayed ie Baggies ,Vests, Talc etc (not my cup of tea)but in1974 that's what was happening.

At the end of the day it's just a film so I hope it's enjoyable and no one dies(in real life)

Regards Brian Phillips

[Chalky]

I've not read this topic since page 1 so to save me reading 12 pages can some one do an edited version

[Steve G]

It's those few I see - Tomangoes, Pikey's Dog, Steve Guarnori, Mark Bicknell, Jumping Joan, Black And White, etc etc etc, who are so possessive of their unique scene of rare records and soul collectors, that they deny the music any chance to exist in another thirty years.

Hi Ian, and welcome back to Soul Source. For your information my one comment on this new film posted some time ago was:

"Anyway good luck with the film".

I am fully aware that this isn't going to be a documentary or a tribute film, and have no expectations about the musical content or the historical accuracy. It is what is is and I am happy to see it when it comes out and judge it on whether its entertaining or not.

Since you name me in person, allow me the courtesy of a brief response. Yes I am unashamedly a soul collector, it's a pursuit I have enjoyed for many years. I have thoroughly enjoyed amassing as many good records as I could, and hearing as much authentic black music as I can (from all eras not just the 60s and early 70s). My pursuit for records and hearing new music has taken me to many places, but I have enjoyed almost every minute of it. I have also enjoyed sharing it via numerous tapes and CDs for friends, endless articles in magazines, radio shows every week for 4 years and numerous DJ sets - so hardly "denying the music" as you put it. In fact I have forgotten more about soul music than many of the so called 'big guns' that spout off or get wheeled out every time the words "northern" and "soul" are put together in the same sentance. I remain very passionate about it all too.

Anyway....back to "Souled Out".......

[Guest Gavin Page]

I've not read this topic since page 1 so to save me reading 12 pages can some one do an edited version

I think somebody is making a film about a soul club somewhere in the north of England

[SteveM]

I've not read this topic since page 1 so to save me reading 12 pages can some one do an edited version

Something to do with Trolls

[Guest]

That's what I was trying to say, well actually that's what I thought I said!

Pete - I'm not the slightest bit interested in point scoring, just applying the forum rules fairly and equally to everyone.

I told Mike by private e-mail that I wanted to come back on and post, but that I had no intention of posting an introduction and I still don't.

Please either live with it, or if you feel you have to, then ban me again. I hope you don't, but I am not posting any introduction, no way, no how.

Not all your members may enjoy me being on here, but there are a hell of a lot of them who do.

[Reg]

I already discussed this with Mike by private e-mail.

And I am merely directly answering questions.

And I only joined because some of the comments on this topic offended every fibre of my being.

And I'm no hypocrite and I'm not going to behave in any fashion that's not true to myself. If therefore you'd like me to leave again, no probs.

You can't leave now it's all getting exciting

Not been this kind of debate since errrrrr the last "youngsters on the NS scene thread"....

By the way (on topic) Ipsofacto called me to be an extra on Saturday (I don't remember filling the form in to be honest-must have done it after a few drinkies)....but I can't go as I will be bouncing on a castle and eating birthday cake (possibly at the same time).. Maybe I can practise me backdrops just in case they get really desperate and call me again

[Guest Beeks]

Nicole Willis and The Soul Investigators

Exceptional talent to anyone who has taste in music...regardless of what decade it was brought out in

[Chalky]

I think somebody is making a film about a soul club somewhere in the north of England

really...which club

[Guest]

I shouldn't have mentioned your CD's should I as I've just given you another opportunity to promote them

Typical response.

I offer praise to the heavens that not everyone thinks like you.

[Guest]

I just don't like those CD's. Apart from the content of them which wasn't to my personal taste, I thought using the title Northern Soul 2007/8 was really a bit of a mis-description (if that's a word - it should be if it isn't) cos they didn't have anything to do with Northern Soul to my ears and didn't seem to be very representative in my opinion.

Now that makes me angry.

WHO ARE YOU to decide what qualifies as Northern Soul ????????

[Guest Gavin Page]

really...which club

You know them raves that the kids today go to, well it was a bit like that. An all night thing in a club in Wigan I think? Where people went and had a good time

[Pete S]

She's just doing what she should do, the terms apply to everyone. What part of that don't you and him understand?

I understand it fully, she's just trying to make him look stupid, so don't patronise me thank you Ian.