Souled Out The Film

[Mark Bicknell]

Are you sure about this? I thought it started, that is, Northern Soul  at Wigan Casino

Lol maybe it's a case of what came first the chicken or the egg? in the scenes case a venue such as Wigan or infact any venue since the scenes conception has been there because of what? well I'm buggered oh yes the music without this there would be no scene in the first place, so it's long overdue I think to pay homeage and a little respect infact to the music rather than looking back to the so called golden era of the scene and this so called golden egg of Wigan Casino or the chicken whichever way you want to look at it, this Wigan thing has somehow become the common link between us as an underground cult and the rest of the world and we all know it's history is so much more than that, could a film not be made about the Northern scene without the Casino link? it would seem not so if this is the case do we not have the right at the very least to exspect any production to be some way authentic and historically correct as potetic licence and a film makers inturpritation of what it's all about may not work if all the boxes are not ticked.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Chris L]

These people have the skills and knowledge to make a film which we don't, it would be nice if we did and could tell it like it is but that's never gonna happen, all we can hope is that this production turns out to be an enjoyable well made authentic tribute to the period and the scene, it's in their hands if it's gonna be a hit or something which goes straight to DVD, time will tell but remember it ain't real it's a movie as we all know what the real deal is....see photographs.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

We all hope that the film "tells it like it is" in so much as possible. Apart from the dancing one does get the impression they are a little short on technical and historical input. Not much to do now except sit back and wait for the release, no matter what they'll be a lot of NS fans who'll go see the movie for sure (or buy the DVD). I predict the biggest SS thread of all time once the film is availble, something to watch out for. In any case I wish the film crew the very best of luck, trying to please NS fans is not for the fainthearted.

Chris L

[paultp]

We all hope that the film "tells it like it is" in so much as possible. Apart from the dancing one does get the impression they are a little short on technical and historical input. Not much to do now except sit back and wait for the release, no matter what they'll be a lot of NS fans who'll go see the movie for sure (or buy the DVD). I predict the biggest SS thread of all time once the film is availble, something to watch out for. In any case I wish the film crew the very best of luck, trying to please NS fans is not for the fainthearted.

Chris L

Tenner says it is a pile of cack that makes Northern Soul look ridiculous to those on the scene.

Twenty says it attracts herds of rubber-neckers to do's up and down the country (mixed blessing there).

Another tenner says it goes straight to DVD.

Why anyone wants to be involved with this rubbish is beyond me.

[Guest Bearsy]

well i never went to Wigan cos i was far to young but all this talk about having great dancers is ok but wasnt there dancers there too that wasnt as good as others but danced their own style but with the same passion as the better dancers

if so then count me in as your leading man for i am young bad at dancing but want the fame

[Maark]

I think we all know it started in Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia etc. etc. and not bloody Wigan Casino, as the years go by the whole ethos of this scene is diluted and manipulated often to suit whoever wishes to jump on the bandwaggon, I'm sure the producers of this film have every good intention of making a decent movie but going by this thread they are up against it from the off certainly not gaining much trust or support from the very scene they are trying to capture, having met many media, television types over the years one fatal flaw that these people have is they jump into a project no matter what the subject full on with what seems on the outside a very genuine passion yet their true agenda is nothing more than at best a very narrow overview of the topic or subject matter, the passion is often short lived during their current project and as soon as it's done they move on to the next thing, the danger is they think they know best and this is often not the case.

These people have the skills and knowledge to make a film which we don't, it would be nice if we did and could tell it like it is but that's never gonna happen, all we can hope is that this production turns out to be an enjoyable well made authentic tribute to the period and the scene, it's in their hands if it's gonna be a hit or something which goes straight to DVD, time will tell but remember it ain't real it's a movie as we all know what the real deal is....see photographs.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

I can just hear a young film executive saying "Wow, man, look at all those....... er, what are they?"

[Guest Simon]

Tenner says it is a pile of cack that makes Northern Soul look ridiculous to those on the scene.

Twenty says it attracts herds of rubber-neckers to do's up and down the country (mixed blessing there).

Another tenner says it goes straight to DVD.

Why anyone wants to be involved with this rubbish is beyond me. Ego's my dear boy, Ego's!

[Chris L]

Tenner says it is a pile of cack that makes Northern Soul look ridiculous to those on the scene.

Twenty says it attracts herds of rubber-neckers to do's up and down the country (mixed blessing there).

Another tenner says it goes straight to DVD.

Why anyone wants to be involved with this rubbish is beyond me.

It's so easy and rather pathetic to stand on the sidelines and pick holes in other peoples work.

I'm not sure but I believe Soul Source has a couple of thousand members but on this thread there

are about a dozen people who have repeatedly posted devisive and derogatory comments. I challenge

anyone who's been knocking this film to list their contribution to the NS scene. I don't mean

finding a dodgy naf record for $1.00 and selling to a DJ for a grand (mind you if that person did

send back some of that money to the original artist that would be nice to hear about).

What a comment "Northern Soul look ridiculous to those on the scene." really choice, an

awful lot of people today on the NS make it ridiculous, trust me, the amount of garbage that gets

touted as "Great Northern Soul ne Rare Soul" all of which deserves to be recycled into garden knomes. Any poor newcomer to the scene could be forgiven in thinking that the NS scene is cross between

Cha-cha and bad R & B. No wonder there are "only 3 known copies" it's so bad there shouldn't even be

any copies.

I hope these guys make their film and what the heck, with Wigan as a backdrop (sorry for those

who never went there and can't forgive the people who did) and I hope it's a big success, so what

if all the music isn't all 1960T's released stuff, in 1974 both Wigan & the Mecca were playing current

releases.

Go for it guys, looking forward to the release date, wouldn't be marvelous if it brings in new

fans who will just love that Motownesque music.

[Chris L]

the music without this there would be no scene in the first place, so it's long overdue I think to pay homeage and a little respect infact to the music rather than looking back to the so called golden era of the scene and Wigan Casino.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Not quite right here Mark, sure the music is a part, where do you play it ? In a pub, your bedroom

your back garden or a venue with a dance-floor? Northern Soul has and still is about going out to

a venue and dancing all night long. If you're making a movie situated in 1974 and with NS as a backdrop

then the Casino is as good a place as any (although the Mecca tended to play more soulful stuff).

Making a NS movie and holding BIDDS as your Northern Soul example wouldn't be correct either.

Of course with all projects you have a goal, what is the goal of the movie ? If that goal is a story

set in the mid-70Ts with NS music then so be it, lets wait and see the finished product, if your a

"Roger Banks is the best DJ in the world" kinda guy/gal then this movie may well not be for you, then

of course everybody is free to make a movie about anything including the latter day scene with

perhaps the 100 Club as the centrepiece and good luck to anyone who does that.

Chris L

[Guest sarahleen]

I think we all know it started in Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia etc. etc. and not bloody Wigan Casino, as the years go by the whole ethos of this scene is diluted and manipulated often to suit whoever wishes to jump on the bandwaggon, I'm sure the producers of this film have every good intention of making a decent movie but going by this thread they are up against it from the off certainly not gaining much trust or support from the very scene they are trying to capture, having met many media, television types over the years one fatal flaw that these people have is they jump into a project no matter what the subject full on with what seems on the outside a very genuine passion yet their true agenda is nothing more than at best a very narrow overview of the topic or subject matter, the passion is often short lived during their current project and as soon as it's done they move on to the next thing, the danger is they think they know best and this is often not the case.

These people have the skills and knowledge to make a film which we don't, it would be nice if we did and could tell it like it is but that's never gonna happen, all we can hope is that this production turns out to be an enjoyable well made authentic tribute to the period and the scene, it's in their hands if it's gonna be a hit or something which goes straight to DVD, time will tell but remember it ain't real it's a movie as we all know what the real deal is....see photographs.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

"that bloody wigan casino"

yeah that bloody wigan wigan casino with its bloody massive dancefloor and all those bloody dancers having a good time eh?

[Mark Bicknell]

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Edited August 21, 2008 by Mark Bicknell

[Dave]

I think we all know it started in Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia etc. etc. and not bloody Wigan Casino, as the years go by the whole ethos of this scene is diluted and manipulated often to suit whoever wishes to jump on the bandwaggon, I'm sure the producers of this film have every good intention of making a decent movie but going by this thread they are up against it from the off certainly not gaining much trust or support from the very scene they are trying to capture, having met many media, television types over the years one fatal flaw that these people have is they jump into a project no matter what the subject full on with what seems on the outside a very genuine passion yet their true agenda is nothing more than at best a very narrow overview of the topic or subject matter, the passion is often short lived during their current project and as soon as it's done they move on to the next thing, the danger is they think they know best and this is often not the case.

These people have the skills and knowledge to make a film which we don't, it would be nice if we did and could tell it like it is but that's never gonna happen, all we can hope is that this production turns out to be an enjoyable well made authentic tribute to the period and the scene, it's in their hands if it's gonna be a hit or something which goes straight to DVD, time will tell but remember it ain't real it's a movie as we all know what the real deal is....see photographs.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Is the purpose of the film to create a "tribute to the period and the scene"? Or is it to tell a story, something which may appeal to the paying public, that just happens to be set against a backdrop of NS in 1974?

I thought it was the latter, in which case the only people who are going to get exercised about accuracy are a few anoraks on here.

Lol maybe it's a case of what came first the chicken or the egg? in the scenes case a venue such as Wigan or infact any venue since the scenes conception has been there because of what? well I'm buggered oh yes the music without this there would be no scene in the first place, so it's long overdue I think to pay homeage and a little respect infact to the music rather than looking back to the so called golden era of the scene and this so called golden egg of Wigan Casino or the chicken whichever way you want to look at it, this Wigan thing has somehow become the common link between us as an underground cult and the rest of the world and we all know it's history is so much more than that, could a film not be made about the Northern scene without the Casino link? it would seem not so if this is the case do we not have the right at the very least to exspect any production to be some way authentic and historically correct as potetic licence and a film makers inturpritation of what it's all about may not work if all the boxes are not ticked.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

I think this "paying homage to the music" idea is very noble.

Looking at the photos of your records, you must have paid a lot of "homage", in the form of royalties, on those, no?

[Jumpinjoan]

No word from the Ipsofacto campo then?

Something tells me now that they've got exactly what they wanted out of this sight and it's members... we won't be hearing from them again.

Anybody know what the film industry term is for being used?

[Guest Bearsy]

No word from the Ipsofacto campo then?

Something tells me now that they've got exactly what they wanted out of this sight and it's members... we won't be hearing from them again.

Anybody know what the film industry term is for being used?

exploited is a word to use Joan

[jocko]

Is the purpose of the film to create a "tribute to the period and the scene"? Or is it to tell a story, something which may appeal to the paying public, that just happens to be set against a backdrop of NS in 1974?

I thought it was the latter, in which case the only people who are going to get exercised about accuracy are a few anoraks on here.

I much preferred when we disagreed all the time Dave, this is no good for my Mr Grumpy rep!

But yes Dave hits the nail on the head here, and actually thank goodness, as a film about NS is unfilmable IMHO, so a story set around people where it is an integral part of their lives is surely the only way to do, otherwise you would be as well just showing Steve Catos excellent short looped for 90 minutes.

I think the bit most agree on is they should use original music and Keb seems to trust them on this bit so, maybe we should wait and see.

Joans other point about being exploited for resources, dont think anyone can disagree with that, they knew what they were coming here for and the lemmings went for it, I was going to ask to have my hand pictured in a scene in the record bar but reckon it had too many wrinkes,

So agree Dave, lets wait and see.

[Reg]

I much preferred when we disagreed all the time Dave, this is no good for my Mr Grumpy rep!

But yes Dave hits the nail on the head here, and actually thank goodness, as a film about NS is unfilmable IMHO, so a story set around people where it is an integral part of their lives is surely the only way to do, otherwise you would be as well just showing Steve Catos excellent short looped for 90 minutes.

I think the bit most agree on is they should use original music and Keb seems to trust them on this bit so, maybe we should wait and see.

Joans other point about being exploited for resources, dont think anyone can disagree with that, they knew what they were coming here for and the lemmings went for it, I was going to ask to have my hand pictured in a scene in the record bar but reckon it had too many wrinkes,

So agree Dave, lets wait and see.

I agree with yourself and Dave Jock but one point about the extras....I know they aren't paying them but for my niece who is doing a performing arts course it is valuable experience for her. Especially if it does well and she gets picked for some of the dancing scenes-she can put it on her cv! She isn't bothered about the fee, she's happy to give it go for the experience Maybe people who are in key dancing scenes will get paid in the end?

[macca]

what must old cotton club regulars have thought of francis ford coppola's tribute to the era?

The film was made a good 50 years after it's heyday. Perhaps we should wait another 15 years

for the NS story to be told in all its gory detail. By then, most of us will be well into retirement

& be able to lambast it from the undeniable comfort of our comodes. I reservedly apologise if this

point has been previously raised.

[Guest]

Despite you getting your message through eventually, I reckon you are bang on the money with what you've said.

They have come on here for one thing and one thing only - and that is to get the people they need to dance in their film - and to get them to do it for nothing.

They wouldn't give this site the time of day otherwise.

They're doing the same on facebook too, just plugs and requests for dancers..

Jayne.x.

[Naughty Boy]

Are you sure about this? I thought it started, that is, Northern Soul at Wigan Casino

theres a conspiracy some f##ker once told me it was the music of young black america and i believed them... did not realise it was a casino thing

[Naughty Boy]

"aaah Juds cock 't'estate AND he's got best record collection in't village"

"tha's got moower uncles than anybody else in this neeter Casper"

etc etc etc

Hey up ya wasso#k lets have less,

topping local film

rob

[SteveM]

Im not the one thats talked irrelevant crap for 8 pages am I Steve?

You sure it's me that needs dissuading? [/quuote]

I was replying to Bearsy, but now you've brought the subject round to yourself as usual...............

Its all about peoples views, otherwise we wouldn't be on internet forums. My own perspective, is that its going to be about poor Northerners, strikes etc etc (you know what I mean) and the portrayal of the scene is purely for financial purposes. If you read the link to the staffs newspaper, they've been told that "Northern Soul is bigger than ever", which as we all know is b*llocks. They see it as a market, but probably didn't realise it was a market for (mainly) the over 40's. I wish them no ill will with it but do agree that this forum is being used as a free source of advertising. I'd be interested to see how many people off here are actually used as extras though.

Its effectively part of the never ending thread about being underground/needing new blood/being more commercial/Wigan being the be all and end all/Wigan not being the be all and end all/oldies/newies/pop/disco/RnB/Soul Police/chinstrokers/divs etc that keeps us all on here more active than most old people in the evenings. Boring to some, a link to the outside world to others. You'll be old(er) one day.

Edited August 21, 2008 by SteveM

[SteveM]

Hey up ya wasso#k lets have less,

topping local film

rob

All right then " Aah Robs got best record collection in't village"

It was a good film. I liked the bit where you got the stick with Casper and McDowell for smoking, and you were only taking a message to 'Eadmaster.

[Guest andyrattigan]

It's so easy and rather pathetic to stand on the sidelines and pick holes in other peoples work.

I'm not sure but I believe Soul Source has a couple of thousand members but on this thread there

are about a dozen people who have repeatedly posted devisive and derogatory comments. I challenge

anyone who's been knocking this film to list their contribution to the NS scene. I don't mean

finding a dodgy naf record for $1.00 and selling to a DJ for a grand (mind you if that person did

send back some of that money to the original artist that would be nice to hear about).

What a comment "Northern Soul look ridiculous to those on the scene." really choice, an

awful lot of people today on the NS make it ridiculous, trust me, the amount of garbage that gets

touted as "Great Northern Soul ne Rare Soul" all of which deserves to be recycled into garden knomes. Any poor newcomer to the scene could be forgiven in thinking that the NS scene is cross between

Cha-cha and bad R & B. No wonder there are "only 3 known copies" it's so bad there shouldn't even be

any copies.

I hope these guys make their film and what the heck, with Wigan as a backdrop (sorry for those

who never went there and can't forgive the people who did) and I hope it's a big success, so what

if all the music isn't all 1960T's released stuff, in 1974 both Wigan & the Mecca were playing current

releases.

Go for it guys, looking forward to the release date, wouldn't be marvelous if it brings in new

fans who will just love that Motownesque music.

People are judging this film before its even been made. Would they condemn a book without reading it? Wait til you have seen it and then make your judgements.

Besides the film company have enlisted several people on the Northern scene to assist them with authenticity and the producers have even been attending events to see what the scene is like and they genuinely appear to want to make a decent film set against the backdrop of the Wigan casino. What's wrong with that?

Give it a chance I bet you loads of people were slating Paul Sadot's ONCE UPON A TIME IN WIGAN before it came out and it turned out to be an excellent production. In fact one of the best plays Ive ever seen.

I hope the film is decent and a success with plenty of 6ts stompers on the soundtrack.

[Guest Beeks]

I was replying to Bearsy, but now you've brought the subject round to yourself as usual

Its all about peoples views, otherwise we wouldn't be on internet forums. My own perspective, is that its going to be about poor Northerners, strikes etc etc (you know what I mean) and the portrayal of the scene is purely for financial purposes. If you read the link to the staffs newspaper, they've been told that "Northern Soul is bigger than ever", which as we all know is b*llocks. They see it as a market, but probably didn't realise it was a market for (mainly) the over 40's. I wish them no ill will with it but do agree that this forum is being used as a free source of advertising. I'd be interested to see how many people off here are actually used as extras though.

Its effectively part of the never ending thread about being underground/needing new blood/being more commercial/Wigan being the be all and end all/Wigan not being the be all and end all/oldies/newies/pop/disco/RnB/Soul Police/chinstrokers/divs etc that keeps us all on here more active than most old people in the evenings. Boring to some, a link to the outside world to others.

Well until the Director starts burning Soul Vinyl in the street I won't be joining the lynch mob...it's only a film after all and I think the damage it will have on anything and everything has been grandly exaggerated to an extreme bordering on ridiculous....

Like any film ill go watch it with an open mind...if its crap so what...if its good so what...ill continue going to the cinema...and ill continue loving soul music

[SteveM]

People are judging this film before its even been made. Would they condemn a book without reading it? Wait til you have seen it and then make your judgements.

Besides the film company have enlisted several people on the Northern scene to assist them with authenticity and the producers have even been attending events to see what the scene is like and they genuinely appear to want to make a decent film set against the backdrop of the Wigan casino. What's wrong with that?

Give it a chance I bet you loads of people were slating Paul Sadot's ONCE UPON A TIME IN WIGAN before it came out and it turned out to be an excellent production. In fact one of the best plays Ive ever seen.

I hope the film is decent and a success with plenty of 6ts stompers on the soundtrack.

I think most people have actually asked questions about the portrayal of the music to be used in the film Andy, rather than judging the film per se. Questions that don't appear to have been answered by the production team. Not unreasonable to ask is it ? Particularly as they appear to want feedback.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll all look out for you in the final cut.

[Guest sarahleen]

i wish them luck and hope the films "setting" is a fair and realistic portrayal with dancers dancing to origanal songs by origanal artists. but when i look back at the film peoples posts {they had a thread before this one too} i cant help feeling a little bit patronized by them , in every sense of the word.

[Jules]

its free food all day, thats why I`m going, if it was free ale I`d be there at 5.30

[Guest Nik Mak]

No word from the Ipsofacto campo then?

Something tells me now that they've got exactly what they wanted out of this sight and it's members... we won't be hearing from them again.

Anybody know what the film industry term is for being used?

You've been HOLLYWOODED!

[Guest Nik Mak]

You've been HOLLYWOODED!

Go to the thread on northern-soul.com (Think that's right?) and see what they put on there about the movie. I think this is why it's pissed so many peeps off. They say it's a film about he Northern scene back in the 70's seen thru the eyes of the lead character. But when you fire off a question they say it's really a love story that just happens to be set in the Northern Scene useing that as a backdrop to the love story? Sounds like excuses to me....

[Pauldonnelly]

will any of the non-soul extras actually get "The Wigan Clap"

[Guest Nik Mak]

Is the purpose of the film to create a "tribute to the period and the scene"? Or is it to tell a story, something which may appeal to the paying public, that just happens to be set against a backdrop of NS in 1974?

I thought it was the latter, in which case the only people who are going to get exercised about accuracy are a few anoraks on here.

I think this "paying homage to the music" idea is very noble.

Looking at the photos of your records, you must have paid a lot of "homage", in the form of royalties, on those, no?

PRS + PPL every venue has to pay..........Royalties are paid on the sale of an item brand new. No royalties are due if the record is sold after that as the ownership of the product goes to the purchaser.(This does not include copyright or publishing rights as this stays with the artist or publishing company.)

[Guest Soultown andy]

Its no wonder its hard to attract new blood to the scene,its just a film not life and death if its good its good if its not who cares.Usual peeps knockin everything that doesnt meet their criteria .Personaly its not for me but for those that are involved hope it works out but very much doubt it will have any impact one way or the other.

Edited August 21, 2008 by Soultown andy

[Guest sarahleen]

No word from the Ipsofacto campo then?

Something tells me now that they've got exactly what they wanted out of this sight and it's members... we won't be hearing from them again.

Anybody know what the film industry term is for being used?

sold out ?

[Guest]

its free food all day, thats why I`m going, if it was free ale I`d be there at 5.30

It'll be pie's loads of old fukcin' pie's,to get you in the mood!!

[Dave]

I much preferred when we disagreed all the time Dave, this is no good for my Mr Grumpy rep!

But yes Dave hits the nail on the head here, and actually thank goodness, as a film about NS is unfilmable IMHO, so a story set around people where it is an integral part of their lives is surely the only way to do, otherwise you would be as well just showing Steve Catos excellent short looped for 90 minutes.

I think the bit most agree on is they should use original music and Keb seems to trust them on this bit so, maybe we should wait and see.

Joans other point about being exploited for resources, dont think anyone can disagree with that, they knew what they were coming here for and the lemmings went for it, I was going to ask to have my hand pictured in a scene in the record bar but reckon it had too many wrinkes,

So agree Dave, lets wait and see.

Sorry Jock.

I'll try not to let it happen again.

PRS + PPL every venue has to pay..........Royalties are paid on the sale of an item brand new. No royalties are due if the record is sold after that as the ownership of the product goes to the purchaser.(This does not include copyright or publishing rights as this stays with the artist or publishing company.)

Yes, thank you.

Actually the royalties bit was meant as irony. Or do I mean satire?

Are you American, by any chance?

[Guest Nik Mak]

Sorry Jock.

I'll try not to let it happen again.

Yes, thank you.

Actually the royalties bit was meant as irony. Or do I mean satire?

Are you American, by any chance?

Sorry just had a run in with the Soul Police and took it out on you. Should have caught the irony/satire but the steam rising around me got in the way!

Not American, (Lived there for a few years if that helps) just a southern softy. My dad was a yank tho, born in Chicago.

[Pauldonnelly]

be interesting to hear Duffys version of "whats it gonna be" or Wellers version of "you got me where you want me now"

Edited August 21, 2008 by PaulDonnelly

[Guest Nik Mak]

be interesting to hear Duffys version of "whats it gonna be" or Wellers version of "you got me where you want me now"

They could post the covers on 'refosoul' get everyones 'opinion' before the movie opens.....

[timthedim]

FFS this has to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.

Northern soul is only the backdrop for the movie and if I was a director I'd be straight on here telling people about it, word of mouth and all that.

Although I don't know the director personally I am aware of him and he is a soul fan but maybe not as devout as ye lot.

If you were working on a project you don't tend of give too much away about it at this early stage or your idea gets nicked and as regards the soundtrack it hasn't been picked out yet but isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction), instead of trying to stomp all over him why don't ye try opening his eyes to a few things.

The way extras are being treated is nothing different to any other productions there all like that but some people will do anything to get on the TV and I bet there'll no shortage.

Keep treating people like this and I reckon the scene will have strangled itself in a couple of years.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE DON'T GO AND F**KING SEE IT THEN

[Pete Eccles]

FFS this has to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.

Northern soul is only the backdrop for the movie and if I was a director I'd be straight on here telling people about it, word of mouth and all that.

Although I don't know the director personally I am aware of him and he is a soul fan but maybe not as devout as ye lot.

If you were working on a project you don't tend of give too much away about it at this early stage or your idea gets nicked and as regards the soundtrack it hasn't been picked out yet but isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction), instead of trying to stomp all over him why don't ye try opening his eyes to a few things.

The way extras are being treated is nothing different to any other productions there all like that but some people will do anything to get on the TV and I bet there'll no shortage.

Keep treating people like this and I reckon the scene will have strangled itself in a couple of years.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE DON'T GO AND F**KING SEE IT THEN

As much as this post nails it, i reckon theres plenty mileage left in this silly thread, especially after the weekend,

Anyone wanna guess how many more pages, another 10 maybe?

[paultp]

It's so easy and rather pathetic to stand on the sidelines and pick holes in other peoples work.

I'm not picking holes in their work cos it doesn't exist.

I'm entitled to my opinion and that opinion is based on the various promotional guff put about by those involved with the film. The story line and the mass of incorrect information about the period that they have published leads me to proposing my bets. It sounds bloody awful and as I said that is my opinion, you're welcome to yours.

Which one are you taking me up on? I'll give you a hint - the straight to DVD looks like its a dodgy bet for me cos if the extras go to see themselves that should about fill screen 12 at the local Vue. I'll give you 2/1 that its a pile of cack though.

I hope they and the other film makers fail miserably and all proposed films about northern soul die on their *rse. They have no interest whatsoever in the music, they are just bandwagon jumpers.

Off to rummage for more records on t'internet

Cheers

Paul

[Philly]

FFS this has to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.

Northern soul is only the backdrop for the movie and if I was a director I'd be straight on here telling people about it, word of mouth and all that.

Although I don't know the director personally I am aware of him and he is a soul fan but maybe not as devout as ye lot.

If you were working on a project you don't tend of give too much away about it at this early stage or your idea gets nicked and as regards the soundtrack it hasn't been picked out yet but isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction), instead of trying to stomp all over him why don't ye try opening his eyes to a few things.

The way extras are being treated is nothing different to any other productions there all like that but some people will do anything to get on the TV and I bet there'll no shortage.

Keep treating people like this and I reckon the scene will have strangled itself in a couple of years.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE DON'T GO AND F**KING SEE IT THEN

You are right about that, and I could well imagine his answer.....lol

[Guest sarahleen]

FFS this has to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.

Northern soul is only the backdrop for the movie and if I was a director I'd be straight on here telling people about it, word of mouth and all that.

Although I don't know the director personally I am aware of him and he is a soul fan but maybe not as devout as ye lot.

If you were working on a project you don't tend of give too much away about it at this early stage or your idea gets nicked and as regards the soundtrack it hasn't been picked out yet but isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction), instead of trying to stomp all over him why don't ye try opening his eyes to a few things.

The way extras are being treated is nothing different to any other productions there all like that but some people will do anything to get on the TV and I bet there'll no shortage.

Keep treating people like this and I reckon the scene will have strangled itself in a couple of years.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE DON'T GO AND F**KING SEE IT THEN

im new here but i think this is probably the greatest thread iv ever read in my life {and best forum},i can hardly wait to get out of bed in the morning to read it, frankly. The "production team "? came here advertising for extras and when we had the gall to discuss there production , admitedly sometimes in a sarcastic and suspicious manner ,the director came in with his statement of 'facts"and accused us of "outrageous" behaviour. Keb Darge,similarly came left a statement and went ,wich i found to be a shame as i thought i tried to ask him a question i thought was pertinant the film and kebs skills as a dancer .we dont want to slag them off , we want to talk to them but they dont stick around long enough for anyone to be able to do that

[Guest sarahleen]

as for this thread being "ridiculous ",they are the ones who started it , and the previous one.

[Guest Matt Male]

As much as this post nails it, i reckon theres plenty mileage left in this silly thread, especially after the weekend,

Anyone wanna guess how many more pages, another 10 maybe?

Personally i think Mike should open up a whole new section for the filming feedback. I'm booking next week off work just to read the threads...

[Naughty Boy]

All right then " Aah Robs got best record collection in't village"

It was a good film. I liked the bit where you got the stick with Casper and McDowell for smoking, and you were only taking a message to 'Eadmaster.

funny thing i know di brad very well mate

my owd man built the studios for them and i built the bloody sheds where he kept the kes and the hedge at the back of them were transplanted there to make it look like a garden .

and all the folks involved got payed and fed

rob

[Guest]

FFS this has to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.

Northern soul is only the backdrop for the movie and if I was a director I'd be straight on here telling people about it, word of mouth and all that.

Although I don't know the director personally I am aware of him and he is a soul fan but maybe not as devout as ye lot.

If you were working on a project you don't tend of give too much away about it at this early stage or your idea gets nicked and as regards the soundtrack it hasn't been picked out yet but isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction), instead of trying to stomp all over him why don't ye try opening his eyes to a few things.

The way extras are being treated is nothing different to any other productions there all like that but some people will do anything to get on the TV and I bet there'll no shortage.

Keep treating people like this and I reckon the scene will have strangled itself in a couple of years.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE DON'T GO AND F**KING SEE IT THEN

isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction),

thats cause keb would kick ten sahdes of sh*t out of you

[Guest Nik Mak]

FFS this has to be the most ridiculous thread I've ever read.

Northern soul is only the backdrop for the movie and if I was a director I'd be straight on here telling people about it, word of mouth and all that.

Although I don't know the director personally I am aware of him and he is a soul fan but maybe not as devout as ye lot.

If you were working on a project you don't tend of give too much away about it at this early stage or your idea gets nicked and as regards the soundtrack it hasn't been picked out yet but isn't Keb Darge there as a consultant (I notice nobody directed any complaints in his direction), instead of trying to stomp all over him why don't ye try opening his eyes to a few things.

The way extras are being treated is nothing different to any other productions there all like that but some people will do anything to get on the TV and I bet there'll no shortage.

Keep treating people like this and I reckon the scene will have strangled itself in a couple of years.

YOU DON'T LIKE THE MOVIE DON'T GO AND F**KING SEE IT THEN

Read the whole thread from the start (including the first one) then make your comments. Some of what you say is true but you ca't get away from the fact that this is a great little thread. All they have done is set the cat amongst the pidgeons to drum up some interest and it's worked. Fair play to them. They started the thread to see what reaction they would get from the scene and have no interest in our opinions as the film is already written and the production schedule has been set. What they lacked is a free crowd to make the club scenes more authentic, because of this thread and others they have set rolling they will be over run with wannabees & X factor rejects. Again fair play to them. I still say it will be total tosh from start to finish and I won't be going to see it I'll get the bootleg . It will be like Wigans Chosen Few on Top of the Pops all over again. Fu*k'n NIGHTMARE!

[Guest kerby]

at the moment id say put £100 on it being a flop .

Edited August 21, 2008 by martx

[BrianB]

Hmmm.... you lot keep harking on about the soundrack never being finalised until after the editing has been completed, which may be true, what do I know about film making.

But no one has asked you WHAT songs you are going to use in the film - only whether you are going to use the ORIGINAL recordings by the ORIGINAL artists.

And from your reluctance to answer that simple question, its looking like it's going to be Duffy and Weller after all then.

On the bright side - if the film turns out to be a flop - why not turn to a career in politics, you are all very good at talking a lot and yet saying very little.

Never met you, been where you have played, but don't have a clue what your problem is, and please don't bore me with He hasn't said original etc...Yawn

[Guest Netspeaky]

If the film is based around the year 1974 and northern soul is it's backdrop then the Casino has to be part of it, but I bet the tunes that are used will be out on sink with that timescale, as someone who went to the Casino throughout it's life it always pisses me off with what people people think, thought what was actual played there and it's impact on the dance floor when played. Lots of the sounds from 1974, will be totally BLANKED by the majority of SS members on here for starters as non-soul, not rare enough and numerous other silly comments. I totally agree that the tunes played then don't fit today's scene but if it's about 1974 and the Casino figures then HISTORICALLY they shouldn't be erased, but I guess it will be the same as when the yanks win battles/wars they never were in, or like watching Heartbeat which is set in the 60's and they go and play 70's tunes in the background.