Guest Nik Mak Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 lets hope the actors can portray the excitement and euphoria of going to the casino for th first time it will live with me forever only those who went undestand After reading the production crews quotes I guarentee they'll play Footsie!!!! 16mm film to make it look 'gritty' & authentic then Paul Weller doing a 'authentic' cover track? Yep 'Footsie', Joe 90, Ski-ing in the snow etc etc! . As virtually every Northern Soul track is about lost love or the need for love or loseing the one you love why the hell would you need to write new tunes to compliment a Love Story? + There ain't a vocalist today that can hold a candle to some of the artists still living & available. Now that would add the realism and authenticity not bloody Duffy. Sorry still not convinced. Post the finished play list then people might get behind the film in a more positive way. Pay someone who really knows to pick the tunes then their would be no argument. regards
Ted Massey Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 at least it looks like we wont get any of the pop rubbish that was played and Amy Wine house and Duffy got more soul in their little toes than Lyn randell
Jumpinjoan Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 at least it looks like we wont get any of the pop rubbish that was played and Amy Wine house and Duffy got more soul in their little toes than Lyn randell You think? I'd say they were all little toes on the same soul less foot
Ted Massey Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 You think? I'd say they were all little toes on the same soul less foot And you with a degree now
Jumpinjoan Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 And you with a degree now I give up! Can't believe I'm arguing with Ted Massey about the likes of Duffy and Amy Winehouse! Knock yourself out guys
kathdj Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 lets hope the actors can portray the excitement and euphoria of going to the casino for th first time it will live with me forever only those who went undestand hopefully as they are actors they will draw on experience - like the first time of going to Cream, or Kinetic, or Ibiza etc. Every generation has its own 'Casino' moment so we shouldn't assume no-one else gets it. Anyway I never went - it was full of kids in baggy pants
Diddy Morgan Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 good start to the film would be using david ruffins opening line the past is never forgotten,it just takes its place ,in empty space,of each yesterday .then bam !! 1500 spinnin back droppin stompin dancers in tanktops @the kings hall
Pete S Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 Pete...I'm sorry mate ..but i really am surprised at you...in the past ..you have been very vocal in defending the Casino..and before you start ..yes this film isn't all about the Casino..it isn't a documentry about the Northern scene...it is a film which happens to use Northern soul as a backdrop...but from what i can interpretate...it sounds to me that we should be oh soo grateful that the media has finally acknowledged us???...correct me if i am wrong...but didnt you choose not to go to se Once Upon A Time In Wigan because you didnt think the stage produc...and you know i will apologise to you if i am wrong....wouldnt capture the spirit of the Casino???...i would have no qualms about this ..if Paul Sadot was involved because i know it would be credible..and fron chats with him a couple of years back at the Queens Hall...Stoke..when i raised the question of OUATIW..being made into a film he gave me his reasons why...which i fully respect......Delxxxx No Del thats bollocks, I would loved to have seen Once Upon A Time but it was always either the wrong place or time, I bitterly regret never having seen it.
Guest nubes Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 No Del thats bollocks, I would loved to have seen Once Upon A Time but it was always either the wrong place or time, I bitterly regret never having seen it. Apologies on my behalf then Pete....got that wrong hun.....but i am sure if you had....then you would see why some of us..."anally retentive knobheads"...as described by some of the more knowledgeable soul messiahs on here ... feel the way we do.... .....Delxxxx
Simsy Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 What have you got against romance??? The film isn't about the northern soul scene. That would be far too sleazy. Best regards, Paul Mooney I've nothing against romance. So you're saying the film is a romantic drama and the so called northern soul is just subtext? That be the case the film could be called Loveydoveydom or similar, but it isn't is it?
Guest Paul Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) I've nothing against romance. So you're saying the film is a romantic drama and the so called northern soul is just subtext? That be the case the film could be called Loveydoveydom or similar, but it isn't is it? Film titles can be very misleading. Sometimes they have double-meanings just to catch you out. When I was a kid, I went to see The Sound Of Music, thinking it was an adventure cowboy thriller or a violent gangster movie. I was absolutely horrified when it turned out to be a pathetic singing and dancing movie. My sister liked it but she's a girl. It was just too gay for me and I cried all the way home. Edited August 12, 2008 by Paul
Mike Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 whole hatfull of off topic posts removed try and keep it to the thread subject please couple more ask again
Kevinkent Posted August 12, 2008 Posted August 12, 2008 For all those that think Souled Out will be a disappointment to them, well the good news is that most cinemas are multi-screen jobbies - so you could go and watch something else. I have a question too. Is the issue of dubbing/sub-titling decided at the production stage? It might be worthwhile considering the languages of countries with an established or fledgling "Northern" scene. Italian, Spanish, Japanese, and German (that should cover the Swiss too) immediately spring to mind (apologies to those I've missed). The european scene, being somewhat younger generally, might welcome such an insight into a past they wouldn't have personally experienced and might also be far less critical of the inclusion of Weller/Duffy/Winehouse et al. But please - no Bratwurst stalls outside the Casino! Just a thought.
Sunnysoul Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Here's a question - what about the DJ's? Will they have actors playing the original Wigan DJ's I wonder? Hope so - who do you think will play Dickie Searling? A friend of mine just showed me an old picture of Soul Sam at age 21 ... And at 21 he looked exactly as he does now
munchkinette Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Think again Bogue how many people do you know that went to Wigan cite love and romance as a key factor? Dont know anyone that went to Wigan with romance as the key factor but I did meet my husband there. Sharon
munchkinette Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Thanks for clearing that up Jeff, you said it much better than me! I keep wondering where my Islington invite is too... Information about being an extra in the film: We really need as many people as possible to register themselves at www dot ipsofactofilms dot com slash souledout We need 1000 extras to make the Kings Hall in Stoke really feel like a Northern Soul night in 74. For all those who have registered already, you WILL be contacted, please be patient. But please spread the word, it should be a fun day out - and obviously you'll get to be in the film too. And if you have any children who fancy themselves on screen (and you need an excuse to demonstrate a few moves to them), ask your nearest and dearest to register too! We had a phone call yesterday about being an extra it was for our son who is 18 which is fine however I'm not sure about having extra's who are nearly 50 just wouldn't look right, unless your gonna have them that far away that you cant see how old they really are, I mean back then we were all young and most were really skinny. My Daughter answered the phone and the person she spoke to who I might add was really nice mentioned the age group they were looking for as being upto 30/40ish sorry but I never really noticed anyone that age in Wigan well maybe the DS and Mrs Woods but I suppose when your only 15 yourself a 25 year old looks old . Just a thought. Sharon
Reg Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) We had a phone call yesterday about being an extra it was for our son who is 18 which is fine however I'm not sure about having extra's who are nearly 50 just wouldn't look right, unless your gonna have them that far away that you cant see how old they really are, I mean back then we were all young and most were really skinny. My Daughter answered the phone and the person she spoke to who I might add was really nice mentioned the age group they were looking for as being upto 30/40ish sorry but I never really noticed anyone that age in Wigan well maybe the DS and Mrs Woods but I suppose when your only 15 yourself a 25 year old looks old . Just a thought. Sharon I think that they would struggle finding 100 teenagers who can do the dancing etc never mind 1000! Even a lot of the so called youngsters who post on here are late 20s. They'll probably use the older folks for the darker dancing scenes as I would imagine the more authentic dancers are older on the whole. Look at Keb in the Mercy video-he was the best by far and how old is he? That Moloko video with Paddy Considine had quite a lot of older people in it too Edited August 13, 2008 by Reg
Sunnysoul Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Notwithstanding mention of names such as Duffy, Weller etc ... one of the main questions surely is ... will the film have a contemporary (ie 2008) setting ... or will the setting be some time in the late 60's / 70's ?
Jumpinjoan Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Ta for that, so just for clarity - do you intend to use contemporary artists for diegetic (in the real world portrayed in the film - not just dance scenes) or non diegetic (the score, that outside the scenes that drives the narrative) or both? quality!
Spacehopper Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Notwithstanding mention of names such as Duffy, Weller etc ... one of the main questions surely is ... will the film have a contemporary (ie 2008) setting ... or will the setting be some time in the late 60's / 70's ? where have you been mate ? its set in 74 .... i think our opinions are valued by the film makers but we soul sourcers will only be a very small section of the audiance.....and this may be the most knowledgable forum on the scene BUT we are also only a small part of the scene...i think we sometimes forget that ! its a shame we get so cynical with age...yes we are passionate and want our scene to be represented right to those who dont know it and the music IS AND ALWAYS SHOULD BE the most important thing but the filmmakers have said they will try to use as much real music as they can....lets give em a chance as for the love story im no expert BUT IN MY OPINION most storys fall into one of maybe half a dozen "types"....just different periods in time,settings etc for example the gladiator is basically the same plot as the patriot....good peoples hero taking on bad boy leader and winning in the end....quodrophenia is the same as babylon...leading actors looses everything and is dissalusioned with what he thought was important...im sure there are more examples but im not really a film buff and ive gotta go do some work !!
Chris L Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) Hi I work for Ipso Facto Films on the production team for Souled Out. There's been such a lot of debate on this forum about the film, we want you to know your voices aren't going unheard. I want to hear your thoughts and help answer some questions about cast, music, locations, costume, release dates etc. Our official Souled Out blog website will be launched very soon, with some sneak preview videos of the pre production. Everyone is very excited at our end, and raring to go. Talk to us. In Soul x You need to understand that the Northern Soul scene (read Sub-Cult) has jealously guarded itself over the last 37 years, outsiders have always been treated with suspicion, in the main because when they have transmitted to the wider public they have gotten it wrong. Imagine a documentry about the D Day landings taking place in Spain, fighting Turkish soldiers, get the picture ? From a purely personal standpoint (but I know I speak for many who were there at the time) lets hope the film captures the true Northern Soul story and that is : 99.9% of people participating were white working class kids, that included the DJs.They were very young, almost nobody over the age of 20.The dancing was phenominal.It was run from the grass roots up, the music, the venues, the dancing, there was no "Mr Big" pulling any strings from behind the scenes.The majority of people in the scene were extraordinary characters, you didn't do this sort of thing if you were "Joe Average" check out the DJs, all larger than life for sure.There was a large amount of amphetamines used at all-nighters, drug busts closed both the Twisted Wheel and the Torch, leaving that fact out won't explain how come that kids could dance almost 10 hours non-stop and alcohol wasn't an issue.Going to all-nighters was never about "pulling a bird, then taking her around the back of the venue" it was all about the music, having said that hats off to the girls for being able to get away from their parents all night long for months on end.It was in the main non-violent, this was no Mods & Rockers scene.It was (and still is) a scene with enormous passion, if you were in a dead-end job and a Northern Soul fan it's about all you lived for, the choice of buying a record with your dinner money was a "no contest" decision.I guess we all wish you luck with project but please understand about the fear of not "getting it right" if we can argue amongst ourselves about 2 digits on a record label that gives you some idea about the obsesive and passionate nature of the Northern Soul fan and after all the film is just about that !! Good luck Chris Lalor (old Torch, Mecca, Junction & Cats soulie) Edited August 13, 2008 by Chris L
Guest Mrs Simsy Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Ive got a question; can you tone down any references to drug taking during any scenes at the casino as at the time I told me mam "that sort of thing never happens at the casino", I would hate for to see the film and give me a slap round the earhole for fibbin PMSL! Dont know anyone that went to Wigan with romance as the key factor but I did meet my husband there. Sharon Aw, i think loads of couples met on the scene. In fact there was a thread about it not so long ago wasn't there? I for one am quite looking forward to seeing the film, until then i shall sit firmly on the fence!
Paul-s Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) I think that they would struggle finding 100 teenagers who can do the dancing etc never mind 1000! Even a lot of the so called youngsters who post on here are late 20s. They'll probably use the older folks for the darker dancing scenes as I would imagine the more authentic dancers are older on the whole. Look at Keb in the Mercy video-he was the best by far and how old is he? That Moloko video with Paddy Considine had quite a lot of older people in it too Edited August 13, 2008 by paul-s
Paul-s Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Thanks for clearing that up Jeff, you said it much better than me! I keep wondering where my Islington invite is too... Information about being an extra in the film: We really need as many people as possible to register themselves at www dot ipsofactofilms dot com slash souledout We need 1000 extras to make the Kings Hall in Stoke really feel like a Northern Soul night in 74. For all those who have registered already, you WILL be contacted, please be patient. But please spread the word, it should be a fun day out - and obviously you'll get to be in the film too. And if you have any children who fancy themselves on screen (and you need an excuse to demonstrate a few moves to them), ask your nearest and dearest to register too! I dont get this? Surely people on here are the WRONG AGE to dance in this film? Is it going to be an historically accurate portrayal or not? You seem to contradict yourselves by saying it is and then asking a bunch of 30 /40/50 year old to dance in it? On the day , if people are new to the style do you give them a group class for 10 minutes? Whats the approach to this, im confused?
Simsy Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 You need to understand that the Northern Soul scene (read Sub-Cult) has jealously guarded itself over the last 37 years, outsiders have always been treated with suspicion, in the main because when they have transmitted to the wider public they have gotten it wrong. Imagine a documentry about the D Day landings taking place in Spain, fighting Turkish soldiers, get the picture ? From a purely personal standpoint (but I know I speak for many who were there at the time) lets hope the film captures the true Northern Soul story and that is : 99.9% of people participating were white working class kids, that included the DJs.They were very young, almost nobody over the age of 20.The dancing was phenominal.It was run from the grass roots, the music, the venues, the dancing, there was no "Mr Big" pulling any strings from behind the scenes.The majority of people in the scene were extraordinary characters, you didn't do this sort of thing if you were "Joe Average" check out the DJs, all larger than life for sure.There was a large amount of amphetamines used at all-nighters, drug busts closed both the Twisted Wheel and the Torch, leaving that fact out won't explain how come that kids could dance almost 10 hours non-stop and alcohol wasn't an issue.Going to all-nighters was never about "pulling a bird, then taking her around the back on the venue" it was all about the music, having said that hats off to the girls for being able to get away from their parents all night long for months on end.It was in the main non-violent, this was no Mods & Rockers scene.It was (and still is) a scene with enormous passion, if you were in a dead-end job and a Northern Soul fan it's about all you lived for, the choice of buying a record with your dinner money was a "no contest" decision.I guess we all wish you luck with project but please understand about the fear of not "getting it right" if we can argue amongst ourselves about 2 digits on a record label that gives you some idea about the obsesive and passionate nature of the Northern Soul fan and after all the film is just about that !! Good luck Chris Lalor (old Torch, Mecca, Junction & Cats soulie) What a superbly concise post Chris. All of the important points covered that a would-be film maker should be mindful of when entering into a project such as this.
Willow Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 From a purely personal standpoint (but I know I speak for many who were there at the time) lets hope the film captures the true Northern Soul story and that is : 99.9% of people participating were white working class kids, that included the DJs.They were very young, almost nobody over the age of 20.The dancing was phenominal.It was run from the grass roots, the music, the venues, the dancing, there was no "Mr Big" pulling any strings from behind the scenes.The majority of people in the scene were extraordinary characters, you didn't do this sort of thing if you were "Joe Average" check out the DJs, all larger than life for sure.There was a large amount of amphetamines used at all-nighters, drug busts closed both the Twisted Wheel and the Torch, leaving that fact out won't explain how come that kids could dance almost 10 hours non-stop and alcohol wasn't an issue.Going to all-nighters was never about "pulling a bird, then taking her around the back on the venue" it was all about the music, having said that hats off to the girls for being able to get away from their parents all night long for months on end.It was in the main non-violent, this was no Mods & Rockers scene.It was (and still is) a scene with enormous passion, if you were in a dead-end job and a Northern Soul fan it's about all you lived for, the choice of buying a record with your dinner money was a "no contest" decision.I guess we all wish you luck with project but please understand about the fear of not "getting it right" if we can argue amongst ourselves about 2 digits on a record label that gives you some idea about the obsesive and passionate nature of the Northern Soul fan and after all the film is just about that !! Good luck Chris Lalor (old Torch, Mecca, Junction & Cats soulie) Chris, Well said, a realistic reproduction is vital. Can you imagine watching the film and cringing, knowing that certain things didn't happen or may have happened but very differently to that portrayed on screen. Did we really know or appreciate what we had then? Did we know how special it all was? Personally I didn't at the time but do now many years later. Why did I and a few mates travel 450 miles (every fortnight for us) to be a part of something that was so so good! I know that there are some people in the scene today that are fed up with any reference to Wigan, largely because they did not go, some are just bored with living in the past, but for me I have got and will always have my memories of the Casino and the scene at the time. Incidentally I loved the Cats too and was there on the last night. The camaradarie then and now was/is brilliant and I have met many great soulies from being involved in the scene. I too wish the Film makers every success, it won't be easy! Cheers Yogi
Stevie Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I think that they would struggle finding 100 teenagers who can do the dancing etc never mind 1000! Even a lot of the so called youngsters who post on here are late 20s. They'll probably use the older folks for the darker dancing scenes as I would imagine the more authentic dancers are older on the whole. Look at Keb in the Mercy video-he was the best by far and how old is he? That Moloko video with Paddy Considine had quite a lot of older people in it too They are struggling. You cant have people 30-40years old, portraying Wigan?! How can it then be historically accurate, if its got the whole demographic of its punters so wrong? Age range was 14 to early 20s as i remember....no fat guts or crap splits or sagging whatever! . Also, a couple of weeks training aint gonna make them into dancers that can portray Wigan. Paddy Consadine was atrocious in the Moloko video and he had private lessons apparently. Its a very big and very complicated thing to portray Wigan and on this scale, the dancing and its depiction, is going to cause great difficulties. Even with Liam, (who himself is a good dancer) involved, the fact that he never went to Wigan and experienced the FULL range of incredible dancing that went on there, will cause problems in accurate portrayal. The Wigan "this Engalnd" documentary and ALL other footage, doesn't have the best dancers on there and so cant be used as a truly accurate reference, so it begs the question "what is Liam basing the dancing on"?, if he is teaching the cast to dance? Anyway, thats just a few thoughts. . Ok so what you're saying is........the people who can dance are too old to appear in the film, and the people who are young enough to appear can't dance. Sounds like a bit of a stalemate to me. If the dance scenes are authentic they will be shot in semi darkness which will allow some licence as regards age.......keep them in the background and thirty to forty younger dancers in the forefront - sorted. This film could be a wigmakers dream
Pete Morgan Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 As for there being no love stories at Wigan - I met a Manchester girl at Wigan , got engaged and used to make out in the phone box on the balcony at Mr m's.for many weeks. I two timed her with a Welsh girl and had a meat pie thrown in my face on the balcony at the casino. more love drama in my early life than A SOUL RECORD and that all happened at the Casino for me ! Pete Morgan
Reg Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) I dont get this? Surely people on here are the WRONG AGE to dance in this film? Is it going to be an historically accurate portrayal or not? You seem to contradict yourselves by saying it is and then asking a bunch of 30 /40/50 year old to dance in it? On the day , if people are new to the style do you give them a group class for 10 minutes? Whats the approach to this, im confused? Edited August 13, 2008 by Reg
Reg Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Ok so what you're saying is........the people who can dance are too old to appear in the film, and the people who are young enough to appear can't dance. Sounds like a bit of a stalemate to me. If the dance scenes are authentic they will be shot in semi darkness which will allow some licence as regards age.......keep them in the background and thirty to forty younger dancers in the forefront - sorted. This film could be a wigmakers dream That would probably work ...would have to be very dark and airbrushed for a lot of us though
Davetay Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 You need to understand that the Northern Soul scene (read Sub-Cult) has jealously guarded itself over the last 37 years, outsiders have always been treated with suspicion, in the main because when they have transmitted to the wider public they have gotten it wrong. Imagine a documentry about the D Day landings taking place in Spain, fighting Turkish soldiers, get the picture ? From a purely personal standpoint (but I know I speak for many who were there at the time) lets hope the film captures the true Northern Soul story and that is : 99.9% of people participating were white working class kids, that included the DJs.They were very young, almost nobody over the age of 20 Good luck Chris Lalor (old Torch, Mecca, Junction & Cats soulie) I agree with everthing you said but, almost nobody over the age of 20.The film is set in 1974 and there was still alot of the 20 and older still going to Wigan than.There were 9 lads from Accrington alone going than that age.
Manfromsoul45s Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Ok so what you're saying is........the people who can dance are too old to appear in the film, and the people who are young enough to appear can't dance. Sounds like a bit of a stalemate to me. If the dance scenes are authentic they will be shot in semi darkness which will allow some licence as regards age.......keep them in the background and thirty to forty younger dancers in the forefront - sorted. This film could be a wigmakers dream No amount of darkness can hide how old most people on the scene are...
Paul-s Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 And most younger people on the scene don't dance right...they may be good dancers but they don't dance in the right style and that's males and females. And if they think they can teach people to dance right in a short period of time than I think they may be fooling themselves... professional dancers maybe , but for a normal person I would imagine the style is quite tricky to pick up? For gawd's sake I tried to learn how to spin for 20 years until I finally gave up Also even older people don't generally dance like they did at Wigan now in the main do they Paul? True, as people have got older the dancing has changed and NO amount of dvd watching of old footage is going to inform a young choreographer or dancer about the style and level of dancing that took place then! Its certainly a conundrum and involves a lot of work and experience of the time in question.I had to deal with it with 'Once Upon A Time', which I now hear is being made into a film (a third one! ) by the dynamic and clueless couple, Prick Martin and Puss Winstanley.....cant wait!
Reg Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 And most younger people on the scene don't dance right...they may be good dancers but they don't dance in the right style and that's males and females. And if they think they can teach people to dance right in a short period of time than I think they may be fooling themselves... professional dancers maybe , but for a normal person I would imagine the style is quite tricky to pick up? For gawd's sake I tried to learn how to spin for 20 years until I finally gave up Also even older people don't generally dance like they did at Wigan now in the main do they Paul? True, as people have got older the dancing has changed and NO amount of dvd watching of old footage is going to inform a young choreographer or dancer about the style and level of dancing that took place then! Its certainly a conundrum and involves a lot of work and experience of the time in question.I had to deal with it with 'Once Upon A Time', which I now hear is being made into a film (a third one! ) by the dynamic and clueless couple, Prick Martin and Puss Winstanley.....cant wait! So they've not asked you to help then Paul? I remember Lee who was in your play went out to venues for months on end and I suppose that must have helped him get a bit of a feel of it If they are advertising for extras for filming now for August, how much time must that give them?
Madmandy Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 date='Aug 13 08, 12:41 PM' post='839367' name='SouledOutFilm' date='Aug 12 08, 05:09 PM' post='838624'] Thanks for clearing that up Jeff, you said it much better than me! I keep wondering where my Islington invite is too... Information about being an extra in the film: We really need as many people as possible to register themselves at www dot ipsofactofilms dot com slash souledout We need 1000 extras to make the Kings Hall in Stoke really feel like a Northern Soul night in 74. For all those who have registered already, you WILL be contacted, please be patient. But please spread the word, it should be a fun day out - and obviously you'll get to be in the film too. And if you have any children who fancy themselves on screen (and you need an excuse to demonstrate a few moves to them), ask your nearest and dearest to register too! I dont get this? Surely people on here are the WRONG AGE to dance in this film? Is it going to be an historically accurate portrayal or not? You seem to contradict yourselves by saying it is and then asking a bunch of 30 /40/50 year old to dance in it? On the day , if people are new to the style do you give them a group class for 10 minutes? Whats the approach to this, im confused? I got an email that said dont worry about the age group just come and show us your moves mebbes they'll use us proper soul folks feet/leg shots then dub the actors over them ( I have no clue how this is done you probably do ) PS I dont have the bottle to go I would dearly love to do it I got brave puttin my feet on youtube LOL Mand
Willow Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 True, as people have got older the dancing has changed and NO amount of dvd watching of old footage is going to inform a young choreographer or dancer about the style and level of dancing that took place then! Paul, I agree entirely that the dancing has changed. I don't see the girls shuffling in those big cloddy shoes that they used to at Wigan anywhere. They were so light on their feet and moved around the floor so gracefully and what about the hand movements, only a few exponents of that nowadays to match the early dancers. Reproducing that will be very tough to replicate IMHO Cheers Yogi
Chris L Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 As for there being no love stories at Wigan - I met a Manchester girl at Wigan , got engaged and used to make out in the phone box on the balcony at Mr m's.for many weeks. I two timed her with a Welsh girl and had a meat pie thrown in my face on the balcony at the casino. more love drama in my early life than A SOUL RECORD and that all happened at the Casino for me ! Pete Morgan I once met a blonde girl from Cheltenham at the Torch, got her in the back of my car and nearly got knocked out by her hairdo, she'd used so much hairspray on it it was like a crash-helmet!!
Chris L Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I agree with everthing you said but, almost nobody over the age of 20.The film is set in 1974 and there was still alot of the 20 and older still going to Wigan than.There were 9 lads from Accrington alone going than that age. Well I guess with about 1100 at the Torch and about 10 were more than 20 that would make it 99% under 20
Guest Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Film titles can be very misleading. Sometimes they have double-meanings just to catch you out. When I was a kid, I went to see The Sound Of Music, thinking it was an adventure cowboy thriller or a violent gangster movie. I was absolutely horrified when it turned out to be a pathetic singing and dancing movie. My sister liked it but she's a girl. It was just too gay for me and I cried all the way home. Not buying that for one minute ........ " The Sound Of Rustling " or " The Scarface Of Music " - that I would believe ......... Malc Burton
Guest SouledOutFilm Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Hi all As with any dance/club/musical revolution of any age, it is always the late teens and early twenties who pick up on it first and make it their own. Of course this is exactly our intention in the film - it will look like it's full of really young people. But we still need 1000 people to make the Kings Hall feel rammed like a big NS night, which is why we need as many people of any age to get in touch and register their details as extras. Such is the magic of film, with smoke and mirrors and vaseline etc, the camera and art departments are adept at manipulating the different elements within the frame to create the desired effect.
Guest Mrs Simsy Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 So they've not asked you to help then Paul? I remember Lee who was in your play went out to venues for months on end and I suppose that must have helped him get a bit of a feel of it If they are advertising for extras for filming now for August, how much time must that give them? I remember seeing him at The Marrs Bar, he must of thought i was a right nutter because i was staring at him for ages trying to place where i knew him from!
Reg Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 I remember seeing him at The Marrs Bar, he must of thought i was a right nutter because i was staring at him for ages trying to place where i knew him from! He's in a few things now-that new family comedy with Nick Lyndhurst, used to be in Two Pints of Lager. Not seen him in yonks cos I don't go to allniters that much-he's a nice lad
Guest Byrney Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Hi all As with any dance/club/musical revolution of any age, it is always the late teens and early twenties who pick up on it first and make it their own. Of course this is exactly our intention in the film - it will look like it's full of really young people. But we still need 1000 people to make the Kings Hall feel rammed like a big NS night, which is why we need as many people of any age to get in touch and register their details as extras. Such is the magic of film, with smoke and mirrors and vaseline etc, the camera and art departments are adept at manipulating the different elements within the frame to create the desired effect. Again, ta for that. Could you respond to my question please re contempoary artists and how they will be used in diegetic and non diegetic contexts. I'd copy my question from page one but don't know how to Cheers Byrney
Guest SouledOutFilm Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Again, ta for that. Could you respond to my question please re contempoary artists and how they will be used in diegetic and non diegetic contexts. I'd copy my question from page one but don't know how to Cheers Byrney Hi Byrney Truth is, this will all be decided in post production, there's absolutely no way of telling which music will be used where and how. The entire musical track and incidental music will be added after the film has been shot. I, and the rest of production, could speculate where contemporary artists might appear on the film's soundtrack, but this is an artistic decision to be made by the creative team - once we've all finished the mammoth task of filming! So quite a way down the line, but you lot will probably all be the first to know.
Guest SouledOutFilm Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 www.souledoutfilm.com Now up and running! x
Guest swoz Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 at least it looks like we wont get any of the pop rubbish that was played and Amy Wine house and Duffy got more soul in their little toes than Lyn randell ted can't believe this is you talking total bollocks, what you gonna do for an oncore turn up in a john travolta suite. without lynn randell and all the other records that was played . maybe the scene might have gone a different road. please do not insult the clubs and d.js who made this scene by playing the records they did. maybe its just the weather giving you a touch of saturday night fever... swo
Pete S Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 ted can't believe this is you talking total bollocks, what you gonna do for an oncore turn up in a john travolta suite. without lynn randell and all the other records that was played . maybe the scene might have gone a different road. please do not insult the clubs and d.js who made this scene by playing the records they did. maybe its just the weather giving you a touch of saturday night fever... swo Swoz - go and have a look at the 'names scratched in the run off' thread, just mentioned you by name...
Ted Massey Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 ted can't believe this is you talking total bollocks, what you gonna do for an oncore turn up in a john travolta suite. without lynn randell and all the other records that was played . maybe the scene might have gone a different road. please do not insult the clubs and d.js who made this scene by playing the records they did. maybe its just the weather giving you a touch of saturday night fever... swo Bloody hell swoz you had a bad day dont be a berk mate
Naughty Boy Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 Absolutely Joan...all that matters is the is the ££££s...end of ...and the only reason that the storyline if being fitted around the Northern scene ..is because it is the flavour of the month...end off...Delxxxx i would agree with that .... hey watch out bet they are all drinking lambrini too . rob
Naughty Boy Posted August 13, 2008 Posted August 13, 2008 at least it looks like we wont get any of the pop rubbish that was played and Amy Wine house and Duffy got more soul in their little toes than Lyn randell Ted but Lyn randell was recorded in that period and taken up . and it was all pop music Rob
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