Film: Souled Out

[Guest Beeks]

I'm glad I never got to see Absolute Beginners now, I loved the book. Colin McInnes used to live near my old flat in Langham St, by the by.

Ive never read it...but im going to hunt it out now...luckily I havn't seen the film either...even if I am a teen of the 80s haha

[Guest Matt Male]

Ive never read it...but im going to hunt it out now...luckily I havn't seen the film either...even if I am a teen of the 80s haha

Also try 'City of Spades' and 'Mr Love and Justice' Beeks by the same author.

[Guest Beeks]

Also try 'City of Spades' and 'Mr Love and Justice' Beeks by the same author.

Thanks for the tip Matt

[Gogger]

Jesus Christ...will you all give it a rest!!

You know barely nothing about the film and you are already surmising this and that...give the guy a chance for gods sake...then if he makes a hash of it slag him off to your hearts content....

But why do I get the feeling no matter how authentic it might be you will still get the anally retentive having a pop

wel said beeks

[Tabs]

Clockwork Orange is one of my fave films of the 70's.

The film is actually true to the book.

The author lived in Adderbury, a few miles from me, and taught at the local Grammar school, as it was then.

A prophetic film in more ways than one, and his introduction of the 'street' language Nadsat was inspired.

A remarkable novel and brilliantly transformed to the silver screen by Kubrick.

Its getting late so soon be time for a spatchka.

Oh dear and you were doing SO well. I loved Quadrophenia but to compare any film with Sting kicking someone softly on the floor to that masterpiece with the best ever screen violence by the lake side is not on sir!

I'm glad I never got to see Absolute Beginners now, I loved the book. Colin McInnes used to live near my old flat in Langham St, by the by.

[sister dawn]

Absolutely Orgasmic Dawny......... but more importantly How are you?...

Interestingly they were advertising for 'soulies' (Don't you hate that term!) to be extra's for this film on the radio last week, but they stipulated you needed to be under 50 and of a certain size to fit into the 'costumes' (their words - not mine)

Must admit to being a little concerned about them refering to bags and an Adiddas top as a "costume".....sounds more like they intend everyone to look like an Extra from a cheap 70's porn film..........

A sort of 'Debbie does Wigan'.....

So its going to be no good then you trying to squeeze your arthretic leg into your old 28 inch high waisters then tea pot???

Periodic dress would have been a better description than costume.. agree with ya there but its lovies talk I would assume

Im very well thanks all studied out after 4 years thank god and have the qualification to boot.

[Guest andyrattigan]

Anyone been picked as an extra yet?

I put my name down but haven't heard anything yet.

I'd be well chuffed if I got a spot.

[Reg]

Anyone been picked as an extra yet?

I put my name down but haven't heard anything yet.

I'd be well chuffed if I got a spot.

I started to fill the form in and got put off my the weight questions I thought about knocking a size off but then i got the image of me trying to squeeze my fat ass in a size 6 circle skirt (okay more than one size.... ).

[Chris L]

This thread is fantastic seriously...sod the film...why don't we write a script on the SS members...it would be a box office smash!!

No shortage of vivid imaginations on here eh?

Great idea, can Robbe Coltrane play me ? I always wanted to speak wiv a Scottish accent

[pikeys dog]

I know the person doing the wardrobe on this film - and he was a regular at Wigan and Cleethorpes etc, so it should be authentic, within the constraints of budget and sourcing the gear.

[Guest soulmaguk]

I love Quadrophenia, warts, mistakes and all

Quad has grown on me over the years, just marvel at the beach scene now when The Who kick in with these lyrics....

Only love Can make it rain The way the beach is kissed by the sea.

Only love Can make it rain Like the sweat of lovers' Laying in the fields.

Love, Reign o'er me. Love, Reign o'er me, rain on me.

Only love Can bring the rain That makes you yearn to the sky.

Only love Can bring the rain That falls like tears from on high.

Love Reign O'er me.

[Guest Matt Male]

so it should be authentic, within the constraints of budget and sourcing the gear.

Blimey it will be authentic

[Guest]

Can i be one of them big fat smelly twots thats used to gob at us at thee station please,but only if i can gob at P Weller and have a swanky caravan,that would be chavtastic ta !!

[Guest]

I know the person doing the wardrobe on this film - and he was a regular at Wigan and Cleethorpes etc, so it should be authentic, within the constraints of budget and sourcing the gear.

Roll the film credits ........

Director , Producer , Script Writer , Make Up Artist , Barb Wrangler ........

Malc Burton

[BrianB]

Quad has grown on me over the years, just marvel at the beach scene now when The Who kick in with these lyrics....

Only love Can make it rain The way the beach is kissed by the sea.

Only love Can make it rain Like the sweat of lovers' Laying in the fields.

Love, Reign o'er me. Love, Reign o'er me, rain on me.

Only love Can bring the rain That makes you yearn to the sky.

Only love Can bring the rain That falls like tears from on high.

Love Reign O'er me.

I have never understood how the Who, The Jam etc can even be loosely connected with the Northern scene. Even going back to the Who in the 6ts, there were loads of groups who were more closely connected to the Mod scene. The Who were just more famous I suppose?

Not looking to start anything, just my personal POV.

Paul B and Jill have just come back from the dancing auditions. He says the producer and crew were keen to make it as authentic as possible. However, I suppose it has to appeal to others outside our scene, as around 10000 bums on seats mean a financial flop?

[Guest Fatius Bumius]

Quad has grown on me over the years, just marvel at the beach scene now when The Who kick in with these lyrics....

Only love Can make it rain The way the beach is kissed by the sea.

Only love Can make it rain Like the sweat of lovers' Laying in the fields.

Love, Reign o'er me. Love, Reign o'er me, rain on me.

Only love Can bring the rain That makes you yearn to the sky.

Only love Can bring the rain That falls like tears from on high.

Love Reign O'er me.

Yeah those lyrics and the crashing waves in that song.Recommend it to anyone suffering from insomnia, drift off in no time. Fell asleep one afternoon listening to it, it was on repeat. Woke up, and realised I was nearly late for picking the kids up from school and i'd got a parents meeting straight after.

Teacher pointed out that i'd got a handprint on my face! WHAT! obviously dozed off on my hand, leaving the house in a hurry i'd not had time to look in a mirror.

[Mike]

below showed up on a news feed

says to be from

Source: Sentinel, The (Stoke-on-Trent UK)

National Elf SERVICE: Elves are working hard to make sure all the actors about to start filming Northern Soul movie Souled Out are properly decked out in period costume.

The recruits, all from Stoke-on-Trent, who have been taken on by filmmakers Ipso Facto, to help Oscar-nominated costume designer Elvis Davis, pictured, have been given the nickname Elvis's Elves around set.

They have been tasked with shopping for period clothes in charity stores, and dying, sewing and generally converting modern clothing to look as if it has come fresh from 1974.

Elvis, who has previously worked on Prince of Thieves and Saving Private Ryan, among others, said: " We are up against it, but we should just about be ready in time for the start of filming."

[Guest Trevski]

If they get all the clothes authentic, and all the extras are current scene, ie mainly old, isn't it gonna look a bit like Potters "Blue remembered hills"?

[Munchkin]

below showed up on a news feed

says to be from

Source: Sentinel, The (Stoke-on-Trent UK)

National Elf SERVICE: Elves are working hard to make sure all the actors about to start filming Northern Soul movie Souled Out are properly decked out in period costume.

The recruits, all from Stoke-on-Trent, who have been taken on by filmmakers Ipso Facto, to help Oscar-nominated costume designer Elvis Davis, pictured, have been given the nickname Elvis's Elves around set.

They have been tasked with shopping for period clothes in charity stores, and dying, sewing and generally converting modern clothing to look as if it has come fresh from 1974.

Elvis, who has previously worked on Prince of Thieves and Saving Private Ryan, among others, said: " We are up against it, but we should just about be ready in time for the start of filming."

sharon has still got her full circle skirt in the wardrobe if the need one, complete with sixteen inch waist.... thats now thigh measurement

[Guest andyrattigan]

Can i be one of them big fat smelly twots thats used to gob at us at thee station please,but only if i can gob at P Weller and have a swanky caravan,that would be chavtastic ta !!

Hi ken,

Just curious why you hate Paul Weller so much? Is it personal or just his music?

regards,

Andy

[Guest]

Hi ken,

Just curious why you hate Paul Weller so much? Is it personal or just his music?

regards,

Andy

Coarse it ain,t personal dont know him personaly.

Edited August 10, 2008 by ken

[Sunnysoul]

Films like this are are produced to make money , pure and simple.

And the commercial dictates of making such a film will require well known names to in some way be associated with the film. That's why names like Duffy Weller Winehouse etc are being bandied about at this early stage.

It will be interesting to see what lengths the producers will go to to give this film some commercial appeal to the rest of the world (read : the US market !!!) .

If they are looking for a setting for the film, then an interesting approach might be that mythical piece that Tony Cummings wrote in Black Music magazine in 1974 ...

Set in the USA ... old soul man Eddie Foster (played by a Hollywood star - possibly Samuel Jackson ? ) , now down and out on his luck , having long given up on a musical career and his dream of fame and riches , wakes up in the middle of the night , startled after a nightmare - it's a telephone call from this barely intelligible Englishman telling him that this one obscure record "I Never Knew" that he made a long time ago and hardly sold more than a handful is massively popular with thousands of (then) teenagers in the north of England and can he pack his suitcase to get over there post haste .... and so on and so on .

Sound familiar ?

Edited August 11, 2008 by sunnysoul

[Guest]

If they get all the clothes authentic, and all the extras are current scene, ie mainly old, isn't it gonna look a bit like Potters "Blue remembered hills"?

Malc Burton

[Paul-s]

Thank you Ian, so my original question remains unanswered:

"I'm glad to hear that you intend using original music. Perhaps you could let us know what part these people ''The Dap Kings, Sharon Jones, Amy Winehouse*, Mark Ronson*, Paul Weller and Duffy" who are all mentioned in your publicity, will play in terms of original music ?"

Especially as most of the people named weren't even born in 1974, never mind into Northern Soul.

I saw the original script for this over two years ago and the nearest it got to a soul record was Kim Weston. It was like story that could have taken place anywhere, but they were squeezing it into the 'Northern Soul' box. Maybe its had a re-write and a re think. I also read that Mick Martin was the writer, but the guy on here says he is? Or is that a different film?

[kimbo]

below showed up on a news feed

says to be from

Source: Sentinel, The (Stoke-on-Trent UK)

National Elf SERVICE: Elves are working hard to make sure all the actors about to start filming Northern Soul movie Souled Out are properly decked out in period costume.

The recruits, all from Stoke-on-Trent, who have been taken on by filmmakers Ipso Facto, to help Oscar-nominated costume designer Elvis Davis, pictured, have been given the nickname Elvis's Elves around set.

They have been tasked with shopping for period clothes in charity stores, and dying, sewing and generally converting modern clothing to look as if it has come fresh from 1974.

Elvis, who has previously worked on Prince of Thieves and Saving Private Ryan, among others, said: " We are up against it, but we should just about be ready in time for the start of filming."

Ahh wondered why dachet soul was wanting so much info on skinners etc.

[Guest Matt Male]

If they get all the clothes authentic, and all the extras are current scene, ie mainly old, isn't it gonna look a bit like Potters "Blue remembered hills"?

Wigan Casino 1974 (pre-baggies)

Edited August 11, 2008 by Matt Male

[Guest Bogue]

Wigan Casino 1974 (pre-baggies)

I don't know, you bunch of sceptics..... wait till it's done & then applaud or egg it.

Blue remembered hills fancy dress soul night..... that could be a laugh though

Edited August 11, 2008 by Bogue

[Simsy]

I don't know, you bunch of sceptics..... wait till it's done & then applaud or egg it.

In fairness though if someone was making a film that had been on the scene for a long time and was making it purely out of love (and it was authentic) that would be fine.

However unemotional producers, bubblegum love story and crap music and they're entitled to pre-egg imo.

[Peter99]

fiver...inc post

I'll send you a fiver too then Smiffy.

Probably when I get back from Romania now.

[Guest Bogue]

In fairness though if someone was making a film that had been on the scene for a long time and was making it purely out of love (and it was authentic) that would be fine.

However unemotional producers, bubblegum love story and crap music and they're entitled to pre-egg imo.

Yeah but be honest Ian that was never going to happen, as someone else as pointed out, it's very doubtful the target audience would be big enough.

It's like Quadrophenia wasn't aimed at the remaining original mods it was brought up to date to appeal (which in the end it did) the mainstream youth at that time in the hope of making a succesful movie bums on seats wise.

The same might happen with this, & does it really matter if they get it right or wrong ? it doesn't change your memories or experiences.

[Pete S]

Yeah but be honest Ian that was never going to happen, as someone else as pointed out, it's very doubtful the target audience would be big enough.

It's like Quadrophenia wasn't aimed at the remaining original mods it was brought up to date to appeal (which in the end it did) the mainstream youth at that time in the hope of making a succesful movie bums on seats wise.

The same might happen with this, & does it really matter if they get it right or wrong ? it doesn't change your memories or experiences.

But oddly enough, the actual Northern scene suffered from the success of Quadrophenia. Suddenly we were overrun with mods. I remember being at a Stafford alldayer when Chris King played My Generation. Green Onions became a top sound at Wigan, not just a once a year spin in Mr M's. I wonder how many of the Mods stayed on the scene or just moved on to whatever was the next youth cult back then.

[Guest Bogue]

But oddly enough, the actual Northern scene suffered from the success of Quadrophenia. Suddenly we were overrun with mods. I remember being at a Stafford alldayer when Chris King played My Generation. Green Onions became a top sound at Wigan, not just a once a year spin in Mr M's. I wonder how many of the Mods stayed on the scene or just moved on to whatever was the next youth cult back then.

Not sure i would say 'suffered' Pete, but then i can't remember being present at anything like you described.

There were lots of mods around but i think that was just a fashion of the time thing & i have to say the mods i can remember getting into Northern pretty much stayed. You could also argue that it brought them to the table in the first place too ?

[Simsy]

Yeah but be honest Ian that was never going to happen, as someone else as pointed out, it's very doubtful the target audience would be big enough.

It's like Quadrophenia wasn't aimed at the remaining original mods it was brought up to date to appeal (which in the end it did) the mainstream youth at that time in the hope of making a succesful movie bums on seats wise.

The same might happen with this, & does it really matter if they get it right or wrong ? it doesn't change your memories or experiences.

Is it necessary to pigeonhole a 'target audience'? How about just the audience? Bearing in mind the total and utter crap that is on at the cinema week in week out; Batman 46, Diehard whatever... No I think there is a good majority of the common populous that enjoy soul music at heart and a properly promoted film about one of the longest running dance scene's shouldn't be that much of a risk.

I think Quadrophenia was an authentic British film about the mod movement of the mid sixties - no more no less..

Does it matter if they get it right or wrong? Erm for me, yeah because the majority of NS portrayal's thus far have been very very wrong and it would be oh so feckin nice if someone could get it right for a change!

Rant over, sorry Juli ..

[Guest Bogue]

Is it necessary to pigeonhole a 'target audience'? How about just the audience? Bearing in mind the total and utter crap that is on at the cinema week in week out; Batman 46, Diehard whatever... No I think there is a good majority of the common populous that enjoy soul music at heart and a properly promoted film about one of the longest running dance scene's shouldn't be that much of a risk.

I think Quadrophenia was an authentic British film about the mod movement of the mid sixties - no more no less..

Yeah i guess so, but there were still a few mainstream hooks like the casting of Sting & the soundtrack being mainly the Who, whom were both popular at the time.

Does it matter if they get it right or wrong? Erm for me, yeah because the majority of NS portrayal's thus far have been very very wrong and it would be oh so feckin nice if someone could get it right for a change!

Rant over, sorry Juli ..

No probs Ian.

Don't get me wrong, i too would much prefer it to be right ! it's just it dosen't register very high on my narkedometer

I don't think any film of Northern soul will ever totally please any of us to be honest, it's very much like the age old 'Film vs Book' argument.

[spot]

I just hope they get it right for a change & don't make us all look like "Thick Northern Git's" stuck in dead end job's & totally drug addled at the weekend's.

"This England" & most other thing's seem to look for the person with the Broadest accent & most mundane job this side of Watford Gap to portray us all, also why only Wigan casino?? We travelled miles around the country to Blackpool Mecca, Cleethorpes Pier & Wintergardens & even down to St.Ives. This rose tinted "Wigan was the centre of Northern Soul" sh**e gets right up my nose, cos it wasn't & we only missed a few.

I just hope they don't make a pigs ear of it or make it look that commercial that we end up with all & sundry coming for a look like 74 onwards.

Take care, be safe & "May your God go with you",

Spot.

[Madmandy]

I love Quadrophenia, warts, mistakes and all

I loved this movie too (must watch it again very soon to refresh my memory)

I think it showed a true irony at the end that life isnt just what you do at the weekend

(soul people take note )

Jimmy was very disillusioned at seeing Aceface in his bellboys uniform kissing a** at work when he was such a hard git on the weekends

I will go see anything N/S related and judge for myself

I did love Steve Catos "short" Function at the junction should have lengthened that to a film

altho I remember the TV film with reece dinsdale and thought it was Cr*p

Would love to be an extra even if they only showed my dancing feet as a "stunt double" LOLOL

.....as seen on youtube

Mand

[Madmandy]

I started to fill the form in and got put off my the weight questions I thought about knocking a size off but then i got the image of me trying to squeeze my fat ass in a size 6 circle skirt (okay more than one size.... ).

I still have my original spencers skirt its says size 22 inch waist air force blue it is

Jesus I was quite slim what does that mean these day in the way of size?

bet I can add another 6 inches to that measurement now

Mand

[Guest soulmaguk]

What you got to remember about Quadrophenia was, it just looked like a seventies film at the end of the day, pogo-ing at the house party! I'm sure this was not 60Ts practice. Quad was about lifestyle and choice, young people will love the 'Soul-Out' film, I believe it's aimed at the new wave of "Soul" sub-culture fans, who else would be interested?

[Davetay]

But oddly enough, the actual Northern scene suffered from the success of Quadrophenia. Suddenly we were overrun with mods. I remember being at a Stafford alldayer when Chris King played My Generation. Green Onions became a top sound at Wigan, not just a once a year spin in Mr M's. I wonder how many of the Mods stayed on the scene or just moved on to whatever was the next youth cult back then.

Chris King played The Who at a All-dayer

I remember driving home from 100 Club, about the time Priness Di got killed.

I was giving Guy Hennigan a lift home and at the services a lad Guy knew told us Chris King had played Candle in the wind at Keele

[Guest]

Chris King played The Who at a All-dayer

I remember driving home from 100 Club, about the time Priness Di got killed.

I was giving Guy Hennigan a lift home and at the services a lad Guy knew told us Chris King had played Candle in the wind at Keele

Yeh right !! i know where i was when i found out about Di,Winsford nighter.

[Stevie]

Yeh right !! i know where i was when i found out about Di,Winsford nighter.

Was there too Ken - Keith Minshull announced it - due to slight chemical imbalance couldn't decide whether it was true or some sort of hoax.

[Guest]

Was there too Ken - Keith Minshull announced it - due to slight chemical imbalance couldn't decide whether it was true or some sort of hoax.

I know one of the weiredest rushes i have ever had

[sepia]

love the quad film.

was it realistic tho,no way would all that many lammys make it to a rally.

[Little-stevie]

But oddly enough, the actual Northern scene suffered from the success of Quadrophenia. Suddenly we were overrun with mods. I remember being at a Stafford alldayer when Chris King played My Generation. Green Onions became a top sound at Wigan, not just a once a year spin in Mr M's. I wonder how many of the Mods stayed on the scene or just moved on to whatever was the next youth cult back then.

Quite a lot did fall by the wayside to the next thing but many more did stay the course and helped prop up many soul events in the 80s when numbers were down after the booooooooooom years..

As you have seen Pete.. Many many many people off this site came onto the soul scene from the mod revival thing, myself included..

Mod scene and then onto Kent Records and into the northern scene was the way for many...

[Pete S]

Quite a lot did fall by the wayside to the next thing but many more did stay the course and helped prop up many soul events in the 80s when numbers were down after the booooooooooom years..

As you have seen Pete.. Many many many people off this site came onto the soul scene from the mod revival thing, myself included..

Mod scene and then onto Kent Records and into the northern scene was the way for many...

No doubt a lot of people did stay, I was just saying for a couple of months it got a bit mad.

[Sunnysoul]

Quite a lot did fall by the wayside to the next thing but many more did stay the course and helped prop up many soul events in the 80s when numbers were down after the booooooooooom years..

As you have seen Pete.. Many many many people off this site came onto the soul scene from the mod revival thing, myself included..

Mod scene and then onto Kent Records and into the northern scene was the way for many...

That's right Steve, and especially true for the huge number of people outside of the UK from all around the world who are not of British background but who are now firmly into rare soul ...

The Mod Revival scene in the late 70's / early 80's was huge in places like Australia, Germany, Japan etc.

Edited August 12, 2008 by sunnysoul

[Guest SouledOutFilm]

I've started a new thread for people to get Souled Out stuff of their chest, air their opinions and ideas, and hopefully I can answer some questions for you all too. Move to the new and we'll start afresh.

Souled Out

[Simsy]

I've started a new thread for people to get Souled Out stuff of their chest, air their opinions and ideas, and hopefully I can answer some questions for you all too. Move to the new and we'll start afresh.

With respect, what's wrong with this thread? We are already discussing this topic in here ..

[Guest SouledOutFilm]

Ok, just a suggestion. I noticed lots of discussion about other stuff other than the film (and my browser keeps crashing in this enormous thread!) but whatever people fancy.

[Guest Bogue]

With respect, what's wrong with this thread? We are already discussing this topic in here ..

Ohooooooo Mr Pedantic

You have to admit we do tend to wander off in tangents a bit Ian & it is a bit long now.

I think it's a good idea to have a questions & answers thread & we should applaud them for at least bothering to listen to people on here.