Film: Souled Out

[Guest Ste Brazil]

fiver...inc post

What else is on it?

[Pete S]

What else is on it?

I'll PM you the details when I find me list

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

That would be impossible, imagine the arguing, it would take an eternity?!?

Ooh...maybe we should though-just to play on screens at nighters so them there normal folk can't watch it & infiltrate our scene...

[Simsy]

That would be impossible, imagine the arguing, it would take an eternity?!?

Patience is a virtue and waiting can't hurt you ..

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

I'll PM you the details when I find me list

Can i have one aswell Pete please? Oh and if you're up in your attic....

Is this film a straight to dvd jobby? Apologises if this has already been covered...

[Guest Ste Brazil]

Patience is a virtue and waiting can't hurt you ..

Its never been one of my strong points unfortunately!

[Guest Matt Male]

The whole thing reminds me of a BBC 2 play where boy meets girl etc. in the early 80's.

Can't remember the title but at least the music was authentic.

Pete S - help me out here what was the play title

It was called 'Out On The Floor' Tabs and it was absolutely dreadful. The dancehall was a studio set as far as i can remember and the two leads skipped onto the floor at one point holding hands and.... danced together!! I've erased the rest from my memory but it certainly sets a precedent when it comes to media treatment of the rare soul scene. Not good.

[Guest Ste Brazil]

It was called 'Out On The Floor' Tabs and it was absolutely dreadful. The dancehall was a studio set as far as i can remember and the two leads skipped onto the floor at one point holding hands and.... danced together!! I've erased the rest from my memory but it certainly sets a precedent when it comes to media treatment of the rare soul scene. Not good.

It will give me a laugh when i'm p****d if nothing else!

[Quinvy]

The film should have some humour in it, all the best films make you laugh one minute, and cry the next......forget the A list pop stars, and get the best writers in the business.....Dick Clements & Ian Le franais [spelling].....I've always thought that a film on our scene, would be perfect done in the same style as "The Comitments".....great music combined with some very atmospheric scenes.....and some of the best comedy moments I've ever seen.

What we are all forgetting is.....if the story line is crap......the film will be as well.....

Maybe they could get Alan Parker to Direct it too.......

[Guest Trevski]

Isn't one of the leads the guy who played Combo, the racist nutter in "this is England" ? That being the case, he looks older than a lot of us on here! Is he playing one of the bouncers! Another is the bloke who sits on the wall in Father Ted, with the "I shot JR' T-shirt on! He could be sat on the wall oposite the Casino, waiting to get in!

He looks like he's had too many bombers, so maybe the're gonna get it right after all!

Edited August 8, 2008 by Trevski

[Tricky]

Oooo we jumped the train!

Oooo we went by car!

Oooo we got the coach!

Well we were young and stupid!!!!!!! ( very ) and until there were enough cars or we all bought an old transit between us we used to thumb it.Remember that.

[Jumpinjoan]

Am I the only one to think the original artists, who recorded all the records you all danced to at Wigan Casino deserve recognition in this film?

[Rugby Soul Club]

She dont.

Best post so far...

I'd say the chances of anyone getting it 100% right is an impossibility.

I think Steve in his three minutes was as near to 100% as possible.

Something I would show to non-soulie friends without cringing...

[Guest Trevski]

Am I the only one to think the original artists, who recorded all the records you all danced to at Wigan Casino deserve recognition in this film?

Definatly Joanie. Don't know what the format will be, as such, but a "This film is dedicated to" bit at the end, with a montage of the artists used on the soundrack, would be the least they could do.

[Little-stevie]

Some of the posts on here really make me laugh, the film will have practically no impact on the Soul scene at all. In Leeds there are loads of bars / clubs already playing Northern / Motown / Funk: North bar / Milos / Sandinista / The Wardrobe / Smokestack / Baby Jupiter / Hi-Fi / Brighton beach / Adelphi etc... There are loads of young people who are aware of the music already but dont come flooding on to the Northern scene, they like the music but dont have the obsession we have and this film wont change that either in my opinion, although it may make it a bit 'cooler' but saying that, the people i meet out and about already think soul is pretty cool anyway, and i'm talking about an age group of early 20's / 30's.

As for damaging the scene or its reputation, again it will make no difference at all, no such thing as bad publicity...

Lighten up, its just a film, go out and watch it then decide - its not all doom and gloom, just a film - LOL!!

Ste.

Best post so far my friend... ..

[Guest Ste Brazil]

Best post so far...

I think Steve in his three minutes was as near to 100% as possible.

Something I would show to non-soulie friends without cringing...

Amen to that - totally agree.

Ste.

[Chris L]

The plot looks riveting

For the star struck, there is the opportunity to register your interest in becoming an extra, filming August/September. I wonder if there is any place for an over-weight 50 plusser with a pacemaker?

[Chris L]

Am I the only one to think the original artists, who recorded all the records you all danced to at Wigan Casino deserve recognition in this film?

Probably !

[Zed1]

Anyway where you been ya ole bugger, hope all is well? x

Absolutely Orgasmic Dawny......... but more importantly How are you?...

Interestingly they were advertising for 'soulies' (Don't you hate that term!) to be extra's for this film on the radio last week, but they stipulated you needed to be under 50 and of a certain size to fit into the 'costumes' (their words - not mine)

Must admit to being a little concerned about them refering to bags and an Adiddas top as a "costume".....sounds more like they intend everyone to look like an Extra from a cheap 70's porn film..........

A sort of 'Debbie does Wigan'.....

Edited August 8, 2008 by Teapot

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

Am I the only one to think the original artists, who recorded all the records you all danced to at Wigan Casino deserve recognition in this film?

No, i agree Joan. Someone mentioned earlier the possibility of using Amy Winehouse, Mark Ronson et all on opening credits etc & using & crediting the original artists in the rest of it!

[Chris L]

Jeff, if you are having problems or possible problems with licensing original tracks etc. then perhaps someome like Ady Croasdell at Ace/Kent would be a good port of call

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Reckon asking Ian L would get a better deal, a lot cheaper at any rate Mind you...............

[Mark Bicknell]

Reckon asking Ian L would get a better deal, a lot cheaper at any rate Mind you...............

The production company are gonna make this film whatever we say,think or do, let's be honest it will be a work of fiction based on Wigan Casino and the soul scene circa 1974, let's hope Jonathan Ross gives it a good review of Film 2009 and it's entertaining, I agree with Joan that every effort should be made to use and credit original material and the film makers need to take on board as much as they can to at least attempt to get everything correct most of all the sound track, fact is Weller, Winehouse, Duffy etc. have nothing what so ever to do with the soul scene then, now or otherwise, I really think that authentic non soul music from the time would capture the period far better than modern day artists for the non soul scenes and the best possible again authentic soul sound track circa 1974, the BBC managed to capture the early 70's period perfectly with 'Life On Mars' so I would have thought that the same can be done on the big screen.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

[Jumpinjoan]

Definatly Joanie. Don't know what the format will be, as such, but a "This film is dedicated to" bit at the end, with a montage of the artists used on the soundrack, would be the least they could do.

I was thinking more along the lines of just using the original recordings.

The thought of cover versions by artists so soul less I doubt they've got sole's on the bottom of their feet just makes me want to vomit.

Duffy singing Alice Clarke's 'You Hit Me' ?

Amy Winehouse singing Rose Batiste's 'Hit & Run' ?

Paul Weller singing Eddie Parker's 'I'm Gone' ?

Come on people - it may only be a film - but please!

[Guest Beeks]

This thread is fantastic seriously...sod the film...why don't we write a script on the SS members...it would be a box office smash!!

No shortage of vivid imaginations on here eh?

[Pete S]

I was thinking more along the lines of just using the original recordings.

The thought of cover versions by artists so soul less I doubt they've got sole's on the bottom of their feet just makes me want to vomit.

Duffy singing Alice Clarke's 'You Hit Me' ?

Amy Winehouse singing Rose Batiste's 'Hit & Run' ?

Paul Weller singing Eddie Parker's 'I'm Gone' ?

Come on people - it may only be a film - but please!

For goodness sake, who cares? It's just a film, it's not real life.

I'm going to really look forward to it, whether they use original artists or top of the pops cover versions.

You think advertising the name 'Eddie Parker' will attract people to the film? Of course it won't. But the name Paul Weller will.

Stop being so precious everyone.

[Guest Beeks]

For goodness sake, who cares? It's just a film, it's not real life.

I'm going to really look forward to it, whether they use original artists or top of the pops cover versions.

You think advertising the name 'Eddie Parker' will attract people to the film? Of course it won't. But the name Paul Weller will.

Stop being so precious everyone.

My sentiments exactly..

[Guest]

For goodness sake, who cares? It's just a film, it's not real life.

I'm going to really look forward to it, whether they use original artists or top of the pops cover versions.

You think advertising the name 'Eddie Parker' will attract people to the film? Of course it won't. But the name Paul Weller will.

Stop being so precious everyone.

Like " Quadrophenia " was a representation of its' time , this film will be exactly the same - a representation of its' time ........

Let the bloody thing come out , be seen , and therefore have judgement heaped on it AFTERWARDS - then those who it did displease , can cast their stones if they so wish........

Malc Burton

[Dave]

For goodness sake, who cares? It's just a film, it's not real life.

I'm going to really look forward to it, whether they use original artists or top of the pops cover versions.

You think advertising the name 'Eddie Parker' will attract people to the film? Of course it won't. But the name Paul Weller will.

Stop being so precious everyone.

The voice of reason!

This film is not being made as a documentary. The only people who will care, or know for that matter, whether the soundtrack is authentic or not are a few anally retentive grumpies on here!

The remainder of the audience of maybe thousands won't give a toss as long as it's entertaining, and a few recognisable names on the credits can only help to get bums on seats,.

Anyone that don't approve can always demonstrate outside the first showing.

[Reg]

Like " Quadrophenia " was a representation of its' time , this film will be exactly the same - a representation of its' time ........

Let the bloody thing come out , be seen , and therefore have judgement heaped on it AFTERWARDS - then those who it did displease , can cast their stones if they so wish........

Malc Burton

I love Quadrophenia, warts, mistakes and all

[Pete S]

I love Quadrophenia, warts, mistakes and all

Me too. Best film ever. Even better than A Clockwork Orange.

[SteveM]

The voice of reason!

This film is not being made as a documentary. The only people who will care, or know for that matter, whether the soundtrack is authentic or not are a few anally retentive grumpies on here!

The remainder of the audience of maybe thousands won't give a toss as long as it's entertaining, and a few recognisable names on the credits can only help to get bums on seats,.

Anyone that don't approve can always demonstrate outside the first showing.

If its anything like the normal "gritty Northern story", the stars will be rebels but with a good heart, the fathers/uncles etc will be violent drunks, but with really good hearts at the end, and it'll be set off against strikes, dying relatives and people living in poverty.

A la Billy Elliot, When Saturday Comes, Brassed Off, etc etc

Be good fun for all the Southerners

Dave, you coralled the carrots early today mate ?

[Guest]

I love Quadrophenia, warts, mistakes and all

With you all the way on this one .......

I am paticularly fond of the sea front fight scene , with several of the Mods involved are wearing trainers , and the assembled masses running past the multiplex cinema showing " Heaven Can Wait " .....

Malc Burton

[Dave]

If its anything like the normal "gritty Northern story", the stars will be rebels but with a good heart, the fathers/uncles etc will be violent drunks, but with really good hearts at the end, and it'll be set off against strikes, dying relatives and people living in poverty.

A la Billy Elliot, When Saturday Comes, Brassed Off, etc etc

Be good fun for all the Southerners

Dave, you coralled the carrots early today mate ?

We got stopped by the rain Steve.

BTW, you forgot to include a kestrel in your plot summary above.

[SteveM]

We got stopped by the rain Steve.

BTW, you forgot to include a kestrel in your plot summary above.

Ken owns the sole rights to that, due to a dyslexic solicitor drawing up the contract.

Oh, and I forgot to include the stripping one.

[sister dawn]

For goodness sake, who cares? It's just a film, it's not real life.

I'm going to really look forward to it, whether they use original artists or top of the pops cover versions.

You think advertising the name 'Eddie Parker' will attract people to the film? Of course it won't. But the name Paul Weller will.

Stop being so precious everyone.

regardless of the film The name Weller just attracts me anyway

[Reg]

With you all the way on this one .......

I am paticularly fond of the sea front fight scene , with several of the Mods involved are wearing trainers , and the assembled masses running past the multiplex cinema showing " Heaven Can Wait " .....

Malc Burton

He he....and the dodgy vespas

Lets face it some of you are loving it picking this film to pieces before its even been released... i can anticipate the debate when it's come out...sort of along these lines....

"That record was never played by anyone wearing glasses"..

"Russ Winstanley's moustache ws definitely longer on the left side"

Star jumpers at the casino?...they were so 1977"

[Guest]

Ken owns the sole rights to that, due to a dyslexic solicitor drawing up the contract.

Oh, and I forgot to include the stripping one.

Could be a possible title there . Mr M .........

" The Full Montclairs " ? .........

Malc Burton

[SteveM]

He he....and the dodgy vespas

Lets face it some of you are loving it picking this film to pieces before its even been released... i can anticipate the debate when it's come out...sort of along these lines....

"That record was never played by anyone wearing glasses"..

"Russ Winstanley's moustache ws definitely longer on the left side"

Star jumpers at the casino?...they were so 1977"

Or......."That character was based on me"

[Soulfool]

For goodness sake, who cares? It's just a film, it's not real life.

I'm going to really look forward to it, whether they use original artists or top of the pops cover versions.

You think advertising the name 'Eddie Parker' will attract people to the film? Of course it won't. But the name Paul Weller will.

Stop being so precious everyone.

Too damned right Pete!! I am really looking forward to seeing this, the dancers, the set, hearing the music - whoever's singing, it's about Northern Soul and that's as good as it gets.

David

[Guest]

reminds of when I used to work at the Imperial War Museum, coming in the weekend after a war film had been on....

"wrong kind of rivet on the Sherman" "It was a Mark VI not a Mark VII in July 1944", "wrong cap badge for a Sgt" "third Zulu on the right's assegai 2" too short" etc, etc

happy days

[Pete S]

When Saturday Comes

That was quite realistic I thought.

Until Sheff Utd scored a goal.

[Guest Trevski]

The voice of reason!

This film is not being made as a documentary. The only people who will care, or know for that matter, whether the soundtrack is authentic or not are a few anally retentive grumpies on here!

The remainder of the audience of maybe thousands won't give a toss as long as it's entertaining, and a few recognisable names on the credits can only help to get bums on seats,.

Anyone that don't approve can always demonstrate outside the first showing.

Ted gets in everywhere!

Father Jack for Russ Wankstainly!

Personaly, I'd queue up for this!

Edited August 8, 2008 by Trevski

[Pete S]

The voice of reason!

Yes, I'm often called that

[BrianB]

A THRILL A MOMENT, KIM WESTON; BREAKAWAY, STEVE KARMEN BAND; SHARE A LITTLE LOVE WITH ME, THE MONITORS; COUNTDOWN HERE I COME, THE TEMPOS; OUT ON THE FLOOR, DOBIE GRAY; THE STARS, BARBARA LEWIS; TAKE ME IN YOUR ARMS, KIM WESTON;

GIRL DON'T MAKE ME WAIT, BUNNY SIGLER; THE DRIFTER, RAY POLLARD; COMPETITION AIN'T NOTHING, CARL CARLTON; SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE (NEEDS YOU), DARRELL BANKS; SLICED TOMATOES, JUST BROTHERS; and finally, the great I'M ON MY WAY, DEAN PARRISH.

Paul, are you sure they're paying attention to detail re the music. Apart from Karmen and Parrish Im not sure any of those records remind me of Wigan main room.

However the film is not there to re-create an accurate historical truth so it probably doesn't matter.

ROD

Hi Rod

Bunny Sigler was massive in 74 as a revived oldie from the Wheel/Mecca, Darrell Banks was deffo played often in 74/75, and of course we had the Tempos, Little CC, Dobie Gray when Evison came down to Mr Ms.

To All,

I read in the Times this morning that Steve McQueen's bike in the Great Escape was a Triumph that was first made in 1963. We don't see film buffs or bikers clogging the media about that, so why are we so bothered about something that hasn't even been made yet?

As Dale Carnegie said, "Never worry about things you can't change".

Sit back and enjoy/criticise when it comes out, but this is over the top even for us Soul Sourcers.

[Guest xsquadie]

OMG Do the producers of this film realise what a can of worms they've opened. They are making a film about a whole lifestye that people have lived for 30-40 yrs, and in some cases longer.

"I went evey week to wigan, and I never saw anyone wearing socks like that"

" The paint in the foyer was never that shade"

" The toilets wern't in that corner"

"OMG the ceilling lights are all wrong"

Lets not forget "ITS A PUPPET!!" they will capture the feel Im sure, but what Wigan meant to those who went is personel to them,and everyone wil have had a differant expereance.

[Tabs]

Totally agree it was an absolutely dire play.

So bad I couldn't remember the name.

Seeing the film synopsis containing "Swept along on this tide of pulsating dance and lust" reminded me of it.

The music was authentic though which was the point I was trying to make.

Anyway deffo my last post on this topic.

At the end of the day it's not a matter of life or death and I'll pay my money when it hits the cinema.

At that point we can all objectively review it.

I can't remember the name of it but at the time it was the worst thing I'd ever seen on Northern and nothing's ever come near it in terms of awfullness. It was mainly about a bloke half-raping a girl.

[Guest Matt Male]

This reminds me of when they decided to film 'Absolute Beginners' by Colin MacInnes. I dunno if anyone has read the book but i did a long time before the film came out. The book is set in the bleak 1950s when a young photographer is making his way in newly multiracial Britain, it's all about looking good, clothes, jazz music and the Americanisation of youth culture and he rides a scooter and although he's not a mod it's a nod towards the fledgling mod movement to come.

When they filmed it in 1986 it was an absolute bloody mess, lots of stupid songs, all neon and bright rather than the sleazy down at heel world of the novel and (like this production) a bunch of pop stars all more interested in getting their own songs into the film rather than staying true to the source material

I could have cried when i saw what they'd done to that great novel. It was pitiful

Definately a story that could do with a remake and a truer interpretation.

[Guest nubes]

This reminds me of when they decided to film 'Absolute Beginners' by Colin MacInnes. I dunno if anyone has read the book but i did a long time before the film came out. The book is set in the bleak 1950s when a young photographer is making his way in newly multiracial Britain, it's all about looking good, clothes, jazz music and the Americanisation of youth culture and he rides a scooter and although he's not a mod it's a nod towards the fledgling mod movement to come.

When they filmed it in 1986 it was an absolute bloody mess, lots of stupid songs, all neon and bright rather than the sleazy down at heel world of the novel and (like this production) a bunch of pop stars all more interested in getting their own songs into the film rather than staying true to the source material

I could have cried when i saw what they'd done to that great novel. It was pitiful

Definately a story that could do with a remake and a truer interpretation.

Yes Matt...after reading the book ...i too was looking forward to the film...like yourself ..was bitterly disappointed..the book in my opinion captured the Modernist scene of the late 50s aptly..all this was missing when it got onto the big screen.still let's wait and then judge eh.. ..Delxxx

[Modernsoulsucks]

OK Brian,that's 4 outta the list that you and I reckon were played in the main room,and I have my doubts about Banks 45 as I bet at the time it was a quid 45 if that. What Im saying is that to specifically cite Wigan Casino and then come up with a random selection of Northern is a bit sloppy BUT it's only a film and historical accuracy is not important.

However why anyone would want to see it is beyond me. Boy meets girl sounds pretty dull. New "Stargate" film on Sky next week. Now that is worth getting excited about as Jack O'Neill is back!!!

ROD

Edited August 8, 2008 by modernsoulsucks

[Ady Croasdell]

Me too. Best film ever. Even better than A Clockwork Orange.

Oh dear and you were doing SO well. I loved Quadrophenia but to compare any film with Sting kicking someone softly on the floor to that masterpiece with the best ever screen violence by the lake side is not on sir!

I'm glad I never got to see Absolute Beginners now, I loved the book. Colin McInnes used to live near my old flat in Langham St, by the by.