Little-stevie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. Edited July 30, 2008 by little-stevie
Guest Ste Brazil Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. ...i know what you mean Steve, call me old fashioned but i like the Northern scene to at least seem like an underground / exciting scene still, i have absolutely nothing against giving to charity but i've been to a few charity events and it seems to attract a lot of non soulies and therefore dilutes the event in my opinion - oh and while i'm at it / on my soap box what the f**k is the fancy dress thing all about at some events i have seen reviews of in Manifesto etc JUST STOP IT!! Ste.
Winnie :-) Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. =========== Think it's a bit harsh to question whether people have got the charity in mind when they actually organise an event. Most people, particularly our age group, have been touched by some personal catastrophe or other, so it's easy to see how people have soft spots for certain causes. There already are bright thinking promoters with quality DJ's and music, can't see what that's got to do with charity events?? Winnie :-)
Little-stevie Posted July 30, 2008 Author Posted July 30, 2008 ...i know what you mean Steve, call me old fashioned but i like the Northern scene to at least seem like an underground / exciting scene still, i have absolutely nothing against giving to charity but i've been to a few charity events and it seems to attract a lot of non soulies and therefore dilutes the event in my opinion - oh and while i'm at it / on my soap box what the f**k is the fancy dress thing all about at some events i have seen reviews of in Manifesto etc JUST STOP IT!! Ste. A different section for fancy dress event too.... No..... A different planet please Tin hat on Dave but nowt against these events but its all that headline banner stuff that goes with it... You should have seen my post before the edit
Pete Eccles Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. Stevie, over the years i have been to so many 'new' venues to a charity event, only to find it littered with flyers plugging all future events at said venue, Does make you think, Also known established events put on a 'charity' night, not on the same regular night that event runs on, so in effect kept their 'bread and butter night' as it is and perhaps used another events regular slot in the calender to run the charity night, without any comebacks, after all who can complain about a charity event? Having said all that, i'm sure there's many worthy causes benefit from the many events run for all the 'right' reasons, and they should be applauded, Pete
Jumpinjoan Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Maybe they think that a charity event might get more people through the door Steve? I must admit I hardly ever look at charity event threads - unless the person running it is someone I know or someone whose event I would want to go to anyway. And before anyone says I'm an uncharitable so and so - let me tell you I'm not! I have in fact been raising money for the 'Rwanda Group Trust' for the last twelve years or more and not a northern soul gimmick in sight
Winnie :-) Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Why is that these threads always seem to point to something or someone specific without actually naming someone. Is it just me that think they're 'agenda' based? Maybe I'm getting as cynical as Stevie..........
Jumpinjoan Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Why is that these threads always seem to point to something or someone specific without actually naming someone. Is it just me that think they're 'agenda' based? Maybe I'm getting as cynical as Stevie.......... In that case I must be missing something cos it seems to point to nothing or no one specific to me Right, cue all the things I must be missing posts
Guest Simon Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. Oh thankyou for posting this Stevie, i couldn't agree more! Just another side of the tackiness that certain parts of the Northern Scene have become. I get this at work also, people try to make you feel guilty if you don't buy a raffle ticket for a charity event etc, charity used to be a quiet & humble thing in this country, now it's all look at me aren't i great, i give to charity. Simon
Little-stevie Posted July 30, 2008 Author Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Maybe they think that a charity event might get more people through the door Steve? I must admit I hardly ever look at charity event threads - unless the person running it is someone I know or someone whose event I would want to go to anyway. And before anyone says I'm an uncharitable so and so - let me tell you I'm not! I have in fact been raising money for the 'Rwanda Group Trust' for the last twelve years or more and not a northern soul gimmick in sight Yes indeed Joan.. Sorry if it seems harsh Winnie.. Its just the way they are put out... Edited July 30, 2008 by little-stevie
Jumpinjoan Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Yes indeed Joan.. Just a thought though.... Mr Umbogo is a big rare soul collector from over there.. I could get him to pop over if you can put together a charity event.. Sat 26th... December... Charity special.. Jumping Joan's Rwanda Special..... Guest Djs The Witch doctor.. He will cast a spell on you... Pat Boom.... Landmine victim... Tony Tarzan.. Just gotta see Jane.. plus... Harry from No25 and is mate Wayne... Free drinks for any fancy dress folk who have a bone through the nose.. PMSL!!
Modernsoulsucks Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I don't think the Charity in question would be too concerned with the motives of the organisers as long as they got the cash. Im also sure that the motives of 100% the organisers are entirely honourable. Man,I thought I was a cynic!!! ROD
Reg Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Steve I don't remember you jumping to my defence the time I voiced my concerns about charidee events Which particular event has rattled the cage today? Are the large fonts getting to you? I said are the large fonts getting to you?
Little-stevie Posted July 30, 2008 Author Posted July 30, 2008 Steve I don't remember you jumping to my defence the time I voiced my concerns about charidee events Which particular event has rattled the cage today? Are the large fonts getting to you? I said are the large fonts getting to you? Not one Reg... But so so many sent to my email now and seen in events... The odd charity event was nice to see, its good to know that some people do care for others.... this overkill, the new buzz idea for promoters is just too much for me and other too.. The sun is trying to get through the clouds.. All hope aint lost just yet Rod....
Our Kid Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Usually find the charity do's I go to cheaper entry - there's a thought! Remember my early days on the scene and there was a decent sprinkling of Thalidomide punters (I always reckoned this was coz we were so inclusive and non-judgemental) and it always reminded me how lucky we are.My thoughts haven't changed BRING ON THE CHARITY DO's!!! Paul
KevH Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. SEPERATED AT BIRTH ME AND YOU,people have said there's a starting resemblance . Know what you mean ,but some are genuinely charity nites,where as some might think its just a good idea. I want "from the heart " soul venues be it charity or not.
Guest Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I don't think the Charity in question would be too concerned with the motives of the organisers as long as they got the cash. Im also sure that the motives of 100% the organisers are entirely honourable. Man,I thought I was a cynic!!! ROD Rod, I'm sure you are right. Would imagine most organisers do so to support charities that have helped friends or family in the past. Derek
Guest Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Im also sure that the motives of 100% the organisers are entirely honourable. Man,I thought I was a cynic!!! ROD I'm not!. I've known people set up events for Charity so they get the venue they want for free (or much cheaper) I'll bet some folks have used it as a way to test a venue (I haven't however!), cheaper venue and DJ's will tend to do it FOC when its for charity. So many people just want to run a night or DJ that this is a great way for them to find the opportunity. Loads of people asked me if Venue 45 was a replacement for Bury Town Hall when I did my Christies night earlier this year. I am all for charity nights though. I love soul music and I love Christie Hosp. Loads of people supported that because Christie Hosp has had a big impact on this scene. (worded badly cos the boss is coming over!) lol. Jayne.x. p.s. - for the record, I'll be doing two events for Christies next year too, one to mark the anniversary of my friend's death and the other to mark her birthday. x.
Guest Bogue Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Maybe they think that a charity event might get more people through the door Steve? I must admit I hardly ever look at charity event threads - unless the person running it is someone I know or someone whose event I would want to go to anyway. And before anyone says I'm an uncharitable so and so - let me tell you I'm not! I have in fact been raising money for the 'Rwanda Group Trust' for the last twelve years or more and not a northern soul gimmick in sight How would you know if you didn't look ? And seeing as these people make & take nothing what has that 'getting more through the door' comment got to do with anything ? Becoming very disenchanted with some of the people on here if they think something like this is a worthwhile thread. Especially disappointed in you Stevie, i had you down as a decent upstanding guy. Thought your recent 'Thrush etc' thread was tacky in the extreme too & i wonder if 90% of the people on here would have got away with it ? Come on Stevie you are better than this ! Just one last comment to all the negative moan for the sake of it participants in this thread ; Perhaps when you have watched people that you love suffer & wither before your eyes you might have some inkling as to why others try & raise money for causes that might stop someone else going through the same. Then you might think twice about insulting people on the subject just for the fun of it ? The probable reason these people do it in the form of a Ns night is just because it is their hobby/love & something they have an interest in. Isn't that the form that most fund raising takes ??? And yes , before any clever arse comes in with it, i have done it myself. No one is forcing you to attend these nights, & No one is saying you can't think these things to yourself, but does it really serve any purpose in spouting it out ? Perhaps you ought to ask yourselves that ? I'm sure the various charities would have an opinion of it !!!!
Modernsoulsucks Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I'm not!. I've known people set up events for Charity so they get the venue they want for free (or much cheaper) I'll bet some folks have used it as a way to test a venue (I haven't however!), cheaper venue and DJ's will tend to do it FOC when its for charity. So many people just want to run a night or DJ that this is a great way for them to find the opportunity OK Jayne,99% and the other 1% are still raising the money so no problem for me. ROD
chrissie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. As someone who is currently promoting a charity event for my 50th I find your post offensive. It is my 50th and also my ex husbands 50th, he is still a dear friend and he is suffering with Motor Neurones disease and I saw it as an opportunity to raise some money for a good cause. I am paying for the venue and any other expenses and the DJ line up is not just so I can DJ. adn not to promote a venue, this is purely a one off !!!!!!!! I don't think you will find that Steve G, Paul McKay, Hammie, Molly, Pete Robinson, Woody, Toby, Pete Tebutt, Taffy, Bearsy, Lou, Martin or Steve Bish are desperate for spots either. I am suprised that you think like this Steve I wonder what the organisers of SOULGATE will think to your comments QoFxx Edited July 30, 2008 by chrissie
chrissie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) I'm not!. I've known people set up events for Charity so they get the venue they want for free (or much cheaper) I'll bet some folks have used it as a way to test a venue (I haven't however!), cheaper venue and DJ's will tend to do it FOC when its for charity. So many people just want to run a night or DJ that this is a great way for them to find the opportunity OK Jayne,99% and the other 1% are still raising the money so no problem for me. ROD I am paying £200 for the venue myself so 100% of what is raised will be going to the charity OK so the DJs are free but that's what friends are for. QoFxx Edited July 30, 2008 by chrissie
Guest Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I am paying £200 for the venue myself OK so the DJs are free but that's what friends are for. QoFxx Hi Chrissie, I wouldn't take it personally, I'm sure it's not aimed at you like that. Jayne.x.
Guest Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I'm not!. I've known people set up events for Charity so they get the venue they want for free (or much cheaper) I'll bet some folks have used it as a way to test a venue (I haven't however!), cheaper venue and DJ's will tend to do it FOC when its for charity. So many people just want to run a night or DJ that this is a great way for them to find the opportunity OK Jayne,99% and the other 1% are still raising the money so no problem for me. ROD yep, that's why I do too. Although, I was told a story once that legally you only have to donate a minumum of 5% of the money raised to the charity. I've heard of suggestions and rumours of events only handing over the minimum. This was denyied by those involved and no one could proove anything but it would be worrying. I always like to see proof at a later date from the charity that they have received the money. I know Wendy Korol's done a lot for charity and she always has certificates on display, because you are supposed to get proof from the organisation who will benefit that they have agreed to you holding the fund raiser for them. Sorry - waffling now. Jayne.x
Guest Bogue Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Chrissie, I wouldn't take it personally, I'm sure it's not aimed at you like that. Jayne.x. Everything is alright now then It's not personal
chrissie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Everything is alright now then It's not personal I know but it did feel a little that way . I know Jayne wasn't having a go at me but think I clicked on her post to reply to instead of someone elses.............sorry Jayne. QoFxx Edited July 30, 2008 by chrissie
Guest Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I know but it did feel a little that way . I know Jayne didn't wasn't having a go at me but think I clicked on her post to reply to instead of someone elses.............sorry Jayne. QoFxx Hi Chrissie, I'm gonna shut up ... I can see both sides of it. I guess I'm just careful which ones I support. Stevie - lend me your hat!. Jayne.x.
Jellybean Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) yep, that's why I do too. Although, I was told a story once that legally you only have to donate a minumum of 5% of the money raised to the charity. I've heard of suggestions and rumours of events only handing over the minimum. This was denyied by those involved and no one could proove anything but it would be worrying. I always like to see proof at a later date from the charity that they have received the money. I know Wendy Korol's done a lot for charity and she always has certificates on display, because you are supposed to get proof from the organisation who will benefit that they have agreed to you holding the fund raiser for them. Sorry - waffling now. Jayne.x I am one of the "Sunshine Girls" and we are a registered charity with "Birmingham Childrens Hospital" and have so far held 2 NS charity events to raise funds, the first event we did we raised £504.00 and every single penny went to BCH, to put towards what ever they felt neccesary at that time. And our most recent event, which was held on June 27th, and Jumpin Joan kindly DJ'd for us we managed to raise £1.511.00 and again every single penny went to BCH, and this time to help fund "The Kidney Kids Appeal". We do have certificates to prove this, and they have been posted on here for all to see. JB xxxKTFxxx Edited July 30, 2008 by JELLYBEAN
Dave Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 A brave subject, this! I can see both points of view. I think there's less suspicion about an established promoter/club dedicating the odd event to charity compared to a relatively new face starting a night for charity, which causes some to question their priorities. The whole issue wasn't helped last year when a certain promoter decided to dedicate a regular ailing event to charity but was then unwilling to furnish proof of donations when asked.
Guest Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I am one of the "Sunshine Girls" and we are a registered charity with "Birmingham Childrens Hospital" and have so far held 2 NS charity events to raise funds, the first event we did we raised £504.00 and every single penny went to BCH, to put towards what ever they felt neccesary at that time. And our most recent event, which was held on June 27th, and Jumpin Joan kindly DJ'd for us we managed to raise £1.511.00 and again every single penny went to BCH, and this time to help fund "The Kidney Kids Appeal". We do have certificates to prove this, and they have been posted on here for all to see. JB xxxKTFxxx And it's something to be proud of too JB. Angie & Linda from Cheshire have raised a phenomenal amount for Christie Hosp (thousands!) and put on excellent nights (with an excellent giveaway cd) in the process. Deffo an achievement to be proud of. Jayne.x
pikeys dog Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Bugger me, we've all got a bit cynical in our old age haven't we? I was going to put on a charity soul night (almost an allnighter but not quite) in aid of the local hospital who cared for my missus' Grandmother when she was absolutely riddled with Cancer. I wasn't going to DJ as I would have been too busy organising the event - so I wouldn't have been 'bigging' up my DJing profile. Every penny made would have gone to the charity. Posts like this make me think why bother....
Jellybean Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 And it's something to be proud of too JB. Angie & Linda from Cheshire have raised a phenomenal amount for Christie Hosp (thousands!) and put on excellent nights (with an excellent giveaway cd) in the process. Deffo an achievement to be proud of. Jayne.x Thanks Jayne we are all very proud in what we do. And well done to you,Angie & Chrissie too!! JB xxxKTFxxx
mrs soul Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 its a double edged sword in my opinion, to be totally honest, and some of you may not like my reply, I really did not get into this scene for charity events, its the last thing on my mind, call me a selfish git if you want,and I certainly dont want it in my face,all the while, I dont mind the odd one, but on a regular basis,in that I mean every week, is no no for me,yes i am doing Chrissie's, but more so cos its her 50th birthday, the money she raises is a bonus for her particular cause, and good on her,sometimes people do charity for the wrong reasons, eg; an excuse to be a DJ, or the only way to get some sort of venue going which amounts to the same thing,what I do, is a direct debit to my particular cause, which at the moment is to train a guide dog for the blind, when the puppy which is called DANA ,is ready to be homed, I will sponsor another Charity of my choice, now for some people this is a very private matter, and one they may feel passionate about, but thats up to them, and of course it goes without saying that there are some great minded folks about who really care, so good for them,and dont get me wrong we have had our fair share of health problems, but I would not dream of thrusting it in evrybodys face,in all, I think we are all caring people,and some things are closer to home than we like, I know quite a few peeps who are dealing with, or have dealt with serious health issues, and the one thing they want to get back to is soul, and they never utter a word about their personal stuff, all I am saying is that I would not like to see our northern scene being taken over completely by charity or should I say charidee..
Guest Simon Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 As someone who is currently promoting a charity event for my 50th I find your post offensive. It is my 50th and also my ex husbands 50th, he is still a dear friend and he is suffering with Motor Neurones disease and I saw it as an opportunity to raise some money for a good cause. I am paying for the venue and any other expenses and the DJ line up is not just so I can DJ. adn not to promote a venue, this is purely a one off !!!!!!!! I don't think you will find that Steve G, Paul McKay, Hammie, Molly, Pete Robinson, Woody, Toby, Pete Tebutt, Taffy, Bearsy, Lou, Martin or Steve Bish are desperate for spots either. I am suprised that you think like this Steve I wonder what the organisers of SOULGATE will think to your comments QoFxx Chrissie, i think you are slightly missing the point of Steve's thread, it's not that he's against charity it's the over hyping/amount of dos on here, it can get a bit much. What you are doing for your ex is very noble, as you know i lost my sister to the same illness so i commend you heartily for raising money, the same with Soulgate, i travelled up to this, put plenty of money in the bucket etc. It's not being against raising money for charity, it's more the sheer amount of dos that seem to be appearing on here that are charity dos & the charity culture that has sprung up in this country in recent years, i'm fairly sure that Stevie would probably do anything for anyone on this site, he's one of the good guys so please don't misinterpret this thread. Simon
chrissie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Chrissie, i think you are slightly missing the point of Steve's thread, it's not that he's against charity it's the over hyping/amount of dos on here, it can get a bit much. What you are doing for your ex is very noble, as you know i lost my sister to the same illness so i commend you heartily for raising money, the same with Soulgate, i travelled up to this, put plenty of money in the bucket etc. It's not being against raising money for charity, it's more the sheer amount of dos that seem to be appearing on here that are charity dos & the charity culture that has sprung up in this country in recent years, i'm fairly sure that Stevie would probably do anything for anyone on this site, he's one of the good guys so please don't misinterpret this thread. Simon I can see where you are coming from but maybe steve should of been a little more careful wording of his thread and not tar all charity events with the same brush by making such a sweeping statement................... .......and I certainly don't want to be seen as noble just someone who saw an opportunity to help people, like many people do tirelessly all the time, not me by the way as I am quite rubbish at it but I do try and raise about £500 every year for this local charity and dont really care how I do but I will admit it is somewhat selfish because it is helping a charity that is supporting Tony & I through his illness and their support is crucial to both of us. QoFxx Edited July 30, 2008 by chrissie
Guest toby Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Southgate (Soulgate) is not a charity event a such,Its a tribute to our old dear departed mate Mr Randy Cozens, The Soulgate was run by him, and even after his death we kept it going in his memory as a tribute to a proper soul man. The charity side of it comes into play when the buckets are bought round for a bit of a collection,and if you dont put in the girls Caroline,annie will give ya bashin',the buckets are a bit of fun in reality. So technicaly NOT a charity event,more of a soulfull piss up to celebrate Randy. as it always was. Toby..
Guest toby Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I am paying for the venue and any other expenses and the DJ line up is not just so I can DJ. adn not to promote a venue, this is purely a one off !!!!!!!! QoFxx
Guest kid mohair Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. We run a charity soul night called bruces do its been going 8 years now,for cancer research a well worthy cause they need all the money they can get.....i can see where your coming from though steve, whats the answer i dont know really? Andy.
chrissie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) I am paying for the venue and any other expenses and the DJ line up is not just so I can DJ. adn not to promote a venue, this is purely a one off !!!!!!!! QoFxx O goodie so we gat paid then Chrissie(o) . That reminds me toby, you haven't paid for your tickets yet See later post that says "OK so the DJs are free but that's what friends are for". QoFxx Edited July 30, 2008 by chrissie
Reg Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 its a double edged sword in my opinion, to be totally honest, and some of you may not like my reply, I really did not get into this scene for charity events, its the last thing on my mind, call me a selfish git if you want,and I certainly dont want it in my face,all the while, I dont mind the odd one, but on a regular basis,in that I mean every week, is no no for me,yes i am doing Chrissie's, but more so cos its her 50th birthday, the money she raises is a bonus for her particular cause, and good on her,sometimes people do charity for the wrong reasons, eg; an excuse to be a DJ, or the only way to get some sort of venue going which amounts to the same thing,what I do, is a direct debit to my particular cause, which at the moment is to train a guide dog for the blind, when the puppy which is called DANA ,is ready to be homed, I will sponsor another Charity of my choice, now for some people this is a very private matter, and one they may feel passionate about, but thats up to them, and of course it goes without saying that there are some great minded folks about who really care, so good for them,and dont get me wrong we have had our fair share of health problems, but I would not dream of thrusting it in evrybodys face,in all, I think we are all caring people,and some things are closer to home than we like, I know quite a few peeps who are dealing with, or have dealt with serious health issues, and the one thing they want to get back to is soul, and they never utter a word about their personal stuff, all I am saying is that I would not like to see our northern scene being taken over completely by charity or should I say charidee.. Yep that sounds about right Mrs Soul And I'm certain Steve wasn't having a pop against all charity events but there are rather a lot and sometimes it does make you feel old when you think nearly every bloody night out is for charity. I would have thought the main reason most of us go out is to escape real life?
Guest dundeedavie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 i don't mind charity events as such as long as they still offer the paying punter a good night . i've dj'd at charity events whre "johnny" down the road is getting a spot "because it's for charity" and dj's play boots and cd's " because it's for charity" ....that isn't good enough , just because it's for charity you shouldn't drop standards
Guest ian e Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Yep that sounds about right Mrs Soul And I'm certain Steve wasn't having a pop against all charity events but there are rather a lot and sometimes it does make you feel old when you think nearly every bloody night out is for charity. I would have thought the main reason most of us go out is to escape real life? I do my CIN night and have done so for the last four years,its gone up each time £1400,then £1700,last year,£2,580,what this year,its down to kind soulies and their decency,and willingness to give and attend,I am so grateful and as long as people want to come I will always carry on.. And if it better lives thats all you need to keep you doing it,its a crap world,and helping others is a wonderful feeling Ian Edwards CIN Organiser Bilston
Guest Simon Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Southgate (Soulgate) is not a charity event a such,Its a tribute to our old dear departed mate Mr Randy Cozens, The Soulgate was run by him, and even after his death we kept it going in his memory as a tribute to a proper soul man. I agree Toby, i used to go when Randy ran it also & a mighty fine do it was. Must admit i wouldn't necessarily think of that as a charidee do either, as you say more just carrying on the fine work that Randy did. Simon
Steve G Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Everytime i click on events there is another charity event Do you think its a case of people who set up these events then get a chance to dj or do we just have so many caring people on this scene.... Not against charity really but the overkill is tooooooooooo much... I want bright thinking promoters who focus on quality music and provide us with quality djs too.. We can give to charity in other ways but keep them headline banners away from me.. Maybe another section for charity events If i did a charity event then i would just include that maybe in a line with all the details.. Not make it the headline banner.. The northern soul landmine charity all dayer headline just don't get me moist.. Get yer tin hat on. Haven't seen that many, but if you don't like them don't go. The scene is getting older. As we get older priorities change and I think more people are happy to put something back in which will benefit charities that are either helping the less fortunate or researching illnesses and cures. Everyday when I go through Liverpool St there's someone shaking a tin at me for some just cause. Every week someone at work is doing something for charity - it's the way it is these days. There remains no shortage of good causes to support. I choose which ones I sponsor, or put money in the tin for. I wouldn't really have a beef if every event in soul land was a charity one - you pays your money and takes your choice. Having been mentioned by name I will reply to the comment about charity soul do's. I have appeared at three events that include a charity element this year - 3 Greyhounds which was a charity all dayer, Soulgate (as Toby says not a charity event per se more a celebration of Randy but with a charity element), and Chrissie's (again a birthday bash but with a charity element). I am quite happy with this and do not think it is overkill. If I think that way as a DJ, why would the paying public have a problem with giving something to charity? Or are you really a big promotor in disguise? Edited July 30, 2008 by Steve G
Guest Bogue Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Bugger me, we've all got a bit cynical in our old age haven't we? I was going to put on a charity soul night (almost an allnighter but not quite) in aid of the local hospital who cared for my missus' Grandmother when she was absolutely riddled with Cancer. I wasn't going to DJ as I would have been too busy organising the event - so I wouldn't have been 'bigging' up my DJing profile. Every penny made would have gone to the charity. Posts like this make me think why bother.... You don't strike me as the sort to let a few moaners stop you Pikey ! So MAKE SURE you do it now & thrust two fingers firmly in the air its a double edged sword in my opinion, to be totally honest, and some of you may not like my reply, I really did not get into this scene for charity events, its the last thing on my mind, call me a selfish git if you want,and I certainly dont want it in my face,all the while, I dont mind the odd one, but on a regular basis,in that I mean every week, is no no for me,yes i am doing Chrissie's, but more so cos its her 50th birthday, the money she raises is a bonus for her particular cause, and good on her,sometimes people do charity for the wrong reasons, eg; an excuse to be a DJ, or the only way to get some sort of venue going which amounts to the same thing,what I do, is a direct debit to my particular cause, which at the moment is to train a guide dog for the blind, when the puppy which is called DANA ,is ready to be homed, I will sponsor another Charity of my choice, now for some people this is a very private matter, and one they may feel passionate about, but thats up to them, and of course it goes without saying that there are some great minded folks about who really care, so good for them,and dont get me wrong we have had our fair share of health problems, but I would not dream of thrusting it in evrybodys face,in all, I think we are all caring people,and some things are closer to home than we like, I know quite a few peeps who are dealing with, or have dealt with serious health issues, and the one thing they want to get back to is soul, and they never utter a word about their personal stuff, all I am saying is that I would not like to see our northern scene being taken over completely by charity or should I say charidee.. But Lou, no one is frogmarching you to every charity night & no one is forcing you to read the ads, can't you just live & let live ? (next bit not aimed at you Lou) Lets just re-cap on the complaints of this thread before it gets twisted. Too many charity banners & too many adverts in events. 1./ Correct me if i'm wrong, but Mike has gone some way to sorting that by only allowing a certain amount each month which have to be pre booked. 2./ Don't read the ads & don't go to the events........ Simple ? i don't mind charity events as such as long as they still offer the paying punter a good night . i've dj'd at charity events whre "johnny" down the road is getting a spot "because it's for charity" and dj's play boots and cd's " because it's for charity" ....that isn't good enough , just because it's for charity you shouldn't drop standards Yawn a fookin rama......... here come those bus wheels again ! If that's your standards that's fair enough....... Just don't go to these other do's then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chaiman Mao would have been proud of some on here i reckon ! Perhaps in a few years time Mao suits will have replaced Baggies & Vests ?
Guest Bogue Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Get yer tin hat on. Haven't seen that many, but if you don't like them don't go. The scene is getting older. As we get older priorities change and I think more people are happy to put something back in which will benefit charities that are either helping the less fortunate or researching illnesses and cures. Everyday when I go through Liverpool St there's someone shaking a tin at me for some just cause. Every week someone at work is doing something for charity - it's the way it is these days. There remains no shortage of good causes to support. I choose which ones I sponsor, or put money in the tin for. I wouldn't really have a beef if every event in soul land was a charity one - you pays your money and takes your choice. Having been mentioned by name I will reply to the comment about charity soul do's. I have appeared at three events that include a charity element this year - 3 Greyhounds which was a charity all dayer, Soulgate (as Toby says not a charity event per se more a celebration of Randy but with a charity element), and Chrissie's (again a birthday bash but with a charity element). I am quite happy with this and do not think it is overkill. If I think that way as a DJ, why would the paying public have a problem with giving something to charity? Or are you really a big promotor in disguise? Nice rational post though
chrissie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Perhaps in a few years time Mao suits will have replaced Baggies & Vests ? Well it would be preferable ............Steve may have a point but my argument is that he tarred all such events with the same brush. I don't give a monkeys as long as I have a good night out..... and just because it is a charity event doesn't mean the standard of the sounds will not be up to scratch I feel very proud that I have the quality of DJs offering to play at my birthday not only free but paying to go in as well QoFxx Edited July 30, 2008 by chrissie
Guest dundeedavie Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Yawn a fookin rama......... here come those bus wheels again ! If that's your standards that's fair enough....... Just don't go to these other do's then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chaiman Mao would have been proud of some on here i reckon ! Perhaps in a few years time Mao suits will have replaced Baggies & Vests ? they are and i don't ....and i hope to god baggies and vests have been replaced already
Steve G Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 i've dj'd at charity events whre "johnny" down the road is getting a spot "because it's for charity" and dj's play boots and cd's " because it's for charity" ....that isn't good enough , just because it's for charity you shouldn't drop standards Agree with your principle but Johnny Dilbert with his box of bootlegs make just as many appearances at non charity events from what I can see. At 3 Greyhounds, and Soulgate apart from the odd "carver" it was 99%+ original vinyl - no boots at all as far as I could tell - and I do keep an eye on these things being an honoury member of the "soul police". As for Chrissie's event I expect the same looking at the line up - nothing offensive likely to be on the decks..........unless Chrissie plays her copy of Holly St James or Liz Verdi of course
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