Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You good people at the Soul Mine, it would have been polite if you'd told me you were coming up to buy the collection that I had already shook hands on after my offer was accepted. Oh and of course it would have been nice if Reg Fradgley had had the guts to ring me and told me he'd sold them to someone else. Never mind the fact I was still selling my best reggae stuff this week and borrowing left right and centre so I'd got the money in place for collecting them on saturday. So thanks a lot, you deserve each other. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hands shook? Deal done I.M.O. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tabs Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hands shook? Deal done I.M.O. Agree with that. Did the people at Soul Mine know a deal had already been done? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hands shook? Deal done I.M.O. I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 fully agree..........no f**king INTEGRITY.......SEEMS TO BE IN SHORT SUPPLY IN SOME QUARTERS OF THE SOUL SCENE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sister dawn Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 fully agree..........no f**king INTEGRITY.......SEEMS TO BE IN SHORT SUPPLY IN SOME QUARTERS OF THE SOUL SCENE damn right bloody disgraceful behaviour I say ...... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 whos the soulmine? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tabs Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I would think this is what is being referred too Ted. https://www.soulminelimited.com/ whos the soulmine? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash. He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer. In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I would think this is what is being referred too Ted. https://www.soulminelimited.com/ Oh he sells on here cheers Tabs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash. He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer. In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer. I'm more angry with the fact that I've sat here for days trying to get the money together when all he had to do was ring and say sorry, I've had a better offer, do you want to match it...or ring me and tell me he'd sold them - not make me sit here like a c*nt all week expecting to pick them up on saturday. Secondly, he would have told them who was interested, thats how he does things, he likes to drop names in. I'm not blaming soulmine for anything, I'm just saying whats happened and I'm extremely unhappy about it, mainly because I sold things like The Uniques - Gypsy Woman and Errroll Dunkley - The Scorcher to finance buying this collection and now I'm left without the reggae or the soul. Mate if you'd had a fortnight like mine you'd understand why I'm so pissed off: car cost me £940 for the engine repair, get it home to find they hadn't done the exhaust which was dropping off, had to take that back for a welding job which cost me another £30, then the cd player and lighter electrics all died, bloke charged me £50 for that though I reckon it was probably a fuse! Oh, on sunday my pc crashed and thats been in, I've got it back now but theres no sound. And on monday night, I managed to erase all 9000 tracks on my ipod. Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tabs Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Oh he sells on here cheers Tabs Correct Ted. I know both Alan and Derek and its not the thing they would normally do. I think pikeys dog has probably hit the nail on the head. They made a higher offer not even realising a deal had been done. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Agree with you entirely, he should have given you the chance to up your offer, meet him halfway, whatever... or even a call out of courtesy to say he'd decided to take a better offer. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash. He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer. In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer. A hand shake is a hand shake is a hand shake is a done deal. the way I understand Pete the record collection wasn`t up for highest offer, it was up fo a straight deal. So after the deal had been done with the buyer (Pete) there shouldn`t have been any missunderstandings that is impossible for a third party to come in. It would be the same if you sell a record be it auction or set sale and after the deal has been done the seller tells you a day later "oh hang on, there is somebody just come in offering me x more". No way. IMO only of course. but as you say Soul Unltd. may not be the one to blame as they probably didn`t know. In dubio pro reo. Marc Edited July 24, 2008 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
AlanB Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hands shook? Deal done I.M.O. Verbal agreement is a binding contact. Sue him ! Alan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soul Shrews Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show? "Ohh..........................bugger !!! " Chin up Pete Cheers Paul Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Verbal agreement is a binding contact. Sue him ! Alan Unfortunately not. Whilst a gentlemans word might be is bond, these days it's not enough to sue. A tenner deposit and a reciept outlining the agreed sale would have been though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You good people at the Soul Mine, it would have been polite if you'd told me you were coming up to buy the collection that I had already shook hands on after my offer was accepted. Oh and of course it would have been nice if Reg Fradgley had had the guts to ring me and told me he'd sold them to someone else. Never mind the fact I was still selling my best reggae stuff this week and borrowing left right and centre so I'd got the money in place for collecting them on saturday. So thanks a lot, you deserve each other. Not etiquette at all Pete,but business is business ,brings out the devil in people. If it's any consolation,looking at the prices on soulmine's website, im surprised they sell many records Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wiganer1 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Not etiquette at all Pete,but business is business ,brings out the devil in people. If it's any consolation,looking at the prices on soulmine's website, im surprised they sell many records ===== hey pete dont worry mate - its only Reggae shit cheer up son and put a wigan tape on ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest swoz Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I rang him to confirm what time I should go pick them up and hand over the money on saturday - he tells me he sold them several days ago because they offered a grand more than me...after already accepting my offer SORRY TO HEAR THAT PETE..YOU KNOW I BACKED OUT THE DEAL. AS I KNEW YOU PUT A GOOD OFFER SHOULD HAVE OFFERED YOU 50-50 CASH DEAL OR JUST THE CASH.....REAL BUMMER DEAL...OR NO DEAL CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOUR PISSED OFF... SWO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest swoz Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 PETE JUST SEEN THE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER. YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP TILL YOU GET YOURS SORTED. GIVE ME A CALL. SWO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Won't be buying from soul mine now, a word is a word in my book. dont like being shit upon by anyone Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 PETE JUST SEEN THE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER. YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP TILL YOU GET YOURS SORTED. GIVE ME A CALL. SWO Swoz I'm alright mate, I@ve got another pc and I've also got a laptop, it's just my main pc thats the problem - I'm actually using it now, got most of it fixed but the sound has died today - not even static coming out of the speakers. I do appreciate the offer though, cheers. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest swoz Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Swoz I'm alright mate, I@ve got another pc and I've also got a laptop, it's just my main pc thats the problem - I'm actually using it now, got most of it fixed but the sound has died today - not even static coming out of the speakers. I do appreciate the offer though, cheers. ANYTIME BUD.ALL THE BEST SWO Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mischief Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Shite this... Pete you know the seller he isn't the type of person to play people is he? how would soulmine know the records were for sale, unless he approached them.. maybe he used your offer as a guideline in his mind added £1000 quid on your price and asked them if they wanted to pay £whatever.. if they never offered the money then he would have sold to you.. bet he tried it on with them without them knowing.. only a thought.. but it is more shite Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Shite this... Pete you know the seller he isn't the type of person to play people is he? how would soulmine know the records were for sale, unless he approached them.. maybe he used your offer as a guideline in his mind added £1000 quid on your price and asked them if they wanted to pay £whatever.. if they never offered the money then he would have sold to you.. bet he tried it on with them without them knowing.. only a thought.. but it is more shite Probably - possibly even - but he'll have mentioned my name because he mentioned theirs to me, a week after we'd first agreed on the sale Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mischief Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Probably - possibly even - but he'll have mentioned my name because he mentioned theirs to me, a week after we'd first agreed on the sale Sounds like hes Played the pair of you... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Black Gold of the Sun Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Would have thought Soulmine would have been on here by now to put their side of the story Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Would have thought Soulmine would have been on here by now to put their side of the story probably not aware of the thread Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Peter99 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'm really sorry you've let your reggie stuff go and begged and borrowed to do the deal Pete. I know from on here that you work hard to make a go of things. I hope things pick up a bit for you mate. Peter Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Were you buying the collection to enhance your own collection or selling them on individually to make a profit? If the latter, then be realistic it wont be the first time or last time record dealers gazump each other. On the plus side you have now got the funds to offer a quick cash deal for some other poor fellows collection down on his luck selling to pay his mortgage etc. What a way to make a living. Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Were you buying the collection to enhance your own collection or selling them on individually to make a profit? If the latter, then be realistic it wont be the first time or last time record dealers gazump each other. On the plus side you have now got the funds to offer a quick cash deal for some other poor fellows collection down on his luck selling to pay his mortgage etc. What a way to make a living. Ed What a pointless post. You know exactly why I was buying them, because I make my living from selling records. And I don't have the cash to offer anyone else, I'd only got £1500 of my own money and I'd borrowed £2500 of someone else's money which of course I will now give them back as I haven't used it. How do you know this guy was down on his luck or unable to pay his mortgage? Last time he sold anything it was because he wasn't getting any dj bookings. Yeah, what a way to make a living indeed, worse than f*cking shylock I am.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I would think this is what is being referred too Ted. https://www.soulminelimited.com/ Spooked me when i clicked that, Dickie Wonder started up & it's my ring tone, was searching all around me for the phone I'm more angry with the fact that I've sat here for days trying to get the money together when all he had to do was ring and say sorry, I've had a better offer, do you want to match it...or ring me and tell me he'd sold them - not make me sit here like a c*nt all week expecting to pick them up on saturday. Secondly, he would have told them who was interested, thats how he does things, he likes to drop names in. I'm not blaming soulmine for anything, I'm just saying whats happened and I'm extremely unhappy about it, mainly because I sold things like The Uniques - Gypsy Woman and Errroll Dunkley - The Scorcher to finance buying this collection and now I'm left without the reggae or the soul. Mate if you'd had a fortnight like mine you'd understand why I'm so pissed off: car cost me £940 for the engine repair, get it home to find they hadn't done the exhaust which was dropping off, had to take that back for a welding job which cost me another £30, then the cd player and lighter electrics all died, bloke charged me £50 for that though I reckon it was probably a fuse! Oh, on sunday my pc crashed and thats been in, I've got it back now but theres no sound. And on monday night, I managed to erase all 9000 tracks on my ipod. Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show? Sorry Pete, not laughing at your predicament, it was the 'Unlucky Alf' comment Shit trick in my opinion ! Handshake means deal !!! Does that mean the cheap KCP's is off the menu now ? PETE JUST SEEN THE BIT ABOUT YOUR COMPUTER. YOU CAN HAVE MY LAP TOP TILL YOU GET YOURS SORTED. GIVE ME A CALL. SWO Great post See everyone loves you really Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mischief Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Great post See everyone loves you really well everyone except Reg and Tomangoes Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 What a pointless post. You know exactly why I was buying them, because I make my living from selling records. And I don't have the cash to offer anyone else, I'd only got £1500 of my own money and I'd borrowed £2500 of someone else's money which of course I will now give them back as I haven't used it. How do you know this guy was down on his luck or unable to pay his mortgage? Last time he sold anything it was because he wasn't getting any dj bookings. Yeah, what a way to make a living indeed, worse than f*cking shylock I am.. Just to say it isn't this Reg he means Bad luck Pete, I know you must be gutted that you've been let down like this. I won't have anybody say anything bad about you-I mean you've even sent me free records! How cool is that for an unscrupulous record dealer!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 well everyone except Reg and Tomangoes & F****** me !!!! Got engrossed in this & forgot the record I was watching on ebay ! Been keeping my eye open for ages for an afordable 'Themes- No explination etc' Audition copy.................... & it went for $35.70 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveJohnston Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) What a pointless post. You know exactly why I was buying them, because I make my living from selling records. And I don't have the cash to offer anyone else, I'd only got £1500 of my own money and I'd borrowed £2500 of someone else's money which of course I will now give them back as I haven't used it. How do you know this guy was down on his luck or unable to pay his mortgage? Last time he sold anything it was because he wasn't getting any dj bookings. Yeah, what a way to make a living indeed, worse than f*cking shylock I am.. ............Merchant of wombourne don't sound right at all pete Edited July 24, 2008 by SteveJohnston Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I'm more angry with the fact that I've sat here for days trying to get the money together when all he had to do was ring and say sorry, I've had a better offer, do you want to match it...or ring me and tell me he'd sold them - not make me sit here like a c*nt all week expecting to pick them up on saturday. Secondly, he would have told them who was interested, thats how he does things, he likes to drop names in. I'm not blaming soulmine for anything, I'm just saying whats happened and I'm extremely unhappy about it, mainly because I sold things like The Uniques - Gypsy Woman and Errroll Dunkley - The Scorcher to finance buying this collection and now I'm left without the reggae or the soul. Mate if you'd had a fortnight like mine you'd understand why I'm so pissed off: car cost me £940 for the engine repair, get it home to find they hadn't done the exhaust which was dropping off, had to take that back for a welding job which cost me another £30, then the cd player and lighter electrics all died, bloke charged me £50 for that though I reckon it was probably a fuse! Oh, on sunday my pc crashed and thats been in, I've got it back now but theres no sound. And on monday night, I managed to erase all 9000 tracks on my ipod. Anyone remember "Unlucky Alf" off the fast show? OK, easy solution is preserve the £940, get yer arse down here, hand over the dosh and then plunder my Reggae collection. What else do you need to know? All first pressings LOL - I checked 'em - they still have the original 'Beverly's' stickers on 'em plus I nearly got lynched trying to buy 'em until the Montego Bay cab driver sorted things out LOL..... F*%k the welchers Pete. Come down here and I'll put a smile on your face. Don't forget the £940 OK? Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Have you checked out this https://www.soulminelimited.com/newarrivals.htm Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 OK, easy solution is preserve the £940, get yer arse down here, hand over the dosh and then plunder my Reggae collection. What else do you need to know? All first pressings LOL - I checked 'em - they still have the original 'Beverly's' stickers on 'em plus I nearly got lynched trying to buy 'em until the Montego Bay cab driver sorted things out LOL..... F*%k the welchers Pete. Come down here and I'll put a smile on your face. Don't forget the £940 OK? Ian D Well I can bring a lot more than that Ian but it's really reggae 45's that I collect, not albums unfortunately - if I bought the albums you mentioned I'm taking a real risk as it's not something I know a lot about. But maybe. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 & F****** me !!!! Got engrossed in this & forgot the record I was watching on ebay ! Been keeping my eye open for ages for an afordable 'Themes- No explination etc' Audition copy.................... & it went for $35.70 Well at least that's cheered me up Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Looking at it from his p.o.v. - a grand is a decent wedge of cash. He'd promised them to you - he should have at least let you know the situation about the higher offer. In this situation I don't think you can blame Soulmine - they probably asked what the highest offer was and beat it, probably not knowing that he had accepted your offer. It does not matter whatever the sum was - a deal made , is a deal done , full stop ....... When we we selling our previous house , the sale was going through with no problems : I was then offered £6K more than the deal by a party who had made a previous , and unsuccessfull offer , who were desperate for the house ......... I refused , despite being tempted by the £6K , and stuck to the deal with the buying party ....... As stated - A DEAL IS A DEAL ......... Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I think Soulmine should offer you the chance to buy them at their cost plus a small admin fee Pete if its worth it to you. If the deal had been done in England its morally accepted but not legally however if it had been done in Scotland its both morally and legally bound. Sorry about the useless information! Another Option Soulmine could do not to tarnish their reputation is do a 50/50 split you Pete! ATB Steve If they dont come on here within 48 hours to explain themselves we should all boycott them! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Well at least that's cheered me up I couldn't help but chuckle at the irony of it after, It was a deffinate Alf 'Oooh Bugger' moment ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I think Soulmine should offer you the chance to buy them at their cost plus a small admin fee Pete if its worth it to you. If the deal had been done in England its morally accepted but not legally however if it had been done in Scotland its both morally and legally bound. Sorry about the useless information! Another Option Soulmine could do not to tarnish their reputation is do a 50/50 split you Pete! ATB Steve If they dont come on here within 48 hours to explain themselves we should all boycott them! I don't understand why people keep saying soulmine tarnished their reputation or did anything wrong. Soulmine did not have any sort of agreement with Pete. The seller did. The seller is the one who breached any deal. Maybe it was slightly shady, but the fact that soulmine managed to get the collection from under pete doesn't mean that they breached any agreement, etc. The seller is the one who should be badmouthed here. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hitsville Chalky Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Pete sorry to hear mate , was the seller Reg Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Keithw Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Pete sorry to hear mate , was the seller Regis Reg-----Brian Fradgley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Hitsville Chalky Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 is Reg-----Brian Fradgley No Keith . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 I don't understand why people keep saying soulmine tarnished their reputation or did anything wrong. Soulmine did not have any sort of agreement with Pete. The seller did. The seller is the one who breached any deal. Maybe it was slightly shady, but the fact that soulmine managed to get the collection from under pete doesn't mean that they breached any agreement, etc. The seller is the one who should be badmouthed here. It depends if the buyers got any ethics or not doesn't it really. If I'd known they'd got an arrangement which had been agreed on, I wouldn't have undermined it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 Pete sorry to hear mate , was the seller Reg Yes mate. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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