A Question Of Earnings

[Guest Beeks]

Just a Question on something thats been puzzling me for awhile...

As a record collector the most ive ever paid for a record is £150...and I baulked at that to be honest...but in the Northern Soul scene thats an average price...

So my question is...how the hell do you all afford to spend between £100-5000 on a record?!?

You are mostly older and therefore must have families to support so I just dont get where the income comes from...

Are you all Drug Dealers?

Im on a very decent wage in my job and have no debt or baggage but I would still find it impossible to come up with that kind of cash on a regular basis...

So unless you are premiership footballers and noone told me...how do you raise the cash?

Do you all buy and sell the records? Did you have some gems bought cheap from back in the day and just trade them to buy others?

Id be very interested to know

[Prophonics 2029]

We are not drug dealers nor do we take drugs just very sharp knives in a box.

[Our Kid]

Do you work for the tax office you cheeky sod?

Paul

[Guest Beeks]

Do you work for the tax office you cheeky sod?

Paul

haha nah...just find it mind boggling the amount of disposable cash everyone on here has...I worked it out that after my outgoings every month...it would take ridiculous amounts of saving for a few months to buy anything I want

PS. Im not asking for a breakdown of your earnings!! Im just astounded you have so much disposable income!

Edited July 18, 2008 by Beeks

[Prophonics 2029]

I think its a very personal question and not one to warrant an answer, we don't ask you what you spend your money on.

[Guest]

Just a Question on something thats been puzzling me for awhile...

As a record collector the most ive ever paid for a record is £150...and I baulked at that to be honest...but in the Northern Soul scene thats an average price...

So my question is...how the hell do you all afford to spend between £100-5000 on a record?!?

You are mostly older and therefore must have families to support so I just dont get where the income comes from...

Are you all Drug Dealers?

Im on a very decent wage in my job and have no debt or baggage but I would still find it impossible to come up with that kind of cash on a regular basis...

So unless you are premiership footballers and noone told me...how do you raise the cash?

Do you all buy and sell the records? Did you have some gems bought cheap from back in the day and just trade them to buy others?

Id be very interested to know

Dunno Beeks.........i guess if your a old cronck like i is!!you sell some of your old records buy new ones,and sorta' know whats in demand buy cheap and sell for a harm and leg infact Beeks just beat your £150 record this week Beeks,for Chubbie Checker.

[Guest Simon]

Do you all buy and sell the records? Did you have some gems bought cheap from back in the day and just trade them to buy others?

Id be very interested to know

Think it's a bit of each to be honest Beeks, must admit i used to think a tenner for a record was outrageous.

I think to be honest it doesn't really matter how much money you've got, if you don't spend it on records you'll find something else to spend it on.

I personally don't spend anything like as much as i did say 7 or 8 years ago, used to regularly spend £300-£400 a month, which isn't much compared to some but a tidy sum all the same.

Nowadays i would say that has halfed or even less, i still love the music as much if not more but don't have the compulsion to want to spend that sort of bread, think it's personally more interesting to buy cheapies/bargains, makes collecting much more interesting imho.

Simon

[Guest Beeks]

I think its a very personal question and not one to warrant an answer, we don't ask you what you spend your money on.

I was in no way meaning to get your backs up Proph...and it was not a personal question...was just curiosity on the vasts amount of money changing hands on this site...so im sorry if I offended you

[Guest Beeks]

I personally don't spend anything like as much as i did say 7 or 8 years ago, used to regularly spend £300-£400 a month, which isn't much compared to some but a tidy sum all the same.

See I used to do this too Simon...but id get a shed load of records for that amount of cash...id be lucky to get two decent 7s for that here haha

[Prophonics 2029]

Not offended at all Mr Beeks I don't even tell my self what I spend .

Edited July 18, 2008 by Prophonics 2029

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

haha nah...just find it mind boggling the amount of disposable cash everyone on here has...I worked it out that after my outgoings every month...it would take ridiculous amounts of saving for a few months to buy anything I want

PS. Im not asking for a breakdown of your earnings!! Im just astounded you have so much disposable income!

I think it probably helped that some of these guys (and girls!) started collecting when we were no more than twinkles in our daddys eyes! Imagine you bought a record in '68 for 2, 6d or whatever ( ) then in '98 sold it for £700, thats a tidy profit to spend on some fab new gems! IMO of course!

[Guest Beeks]

Not offended at all Mr Beeks I don't even tell my self what I spend .

Hahaha...oh I see...denial

I bet Vinyl Anonymous is full of Northern Soulies

[sister dawn]

Chuff Me Beeks ..... your not in PR by any chance are you???

have you not heard the phrase ''it was only a tenner love'' .....

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

Chuff Me Beeks ..... your not in PR by any chance are you???

have you not heard the phrase ''it was only a tenner love'' .....

So much harder to pull off when your other half is a soulie though!

[Guest Beeks]

I think it probably helped that some of these guys (and girls!) started collecting when we were no more than twinkles in our daddys eyes! Imagine you bought a record in '68 for 2, 6d or whatever ( ) then in '98 sold it for £700, thats a tidy profit to spend on some fab new gems! IMO of course!

Yeah thats what I was thinking...suppose unless I get a significant lottery win ill have to stick to re-issues and the odd expensive one that I love

[sister dawn]

So much harder to pull off when your other half is a soulie though!

£20.00 max, hide em in the box and play out first chance ya get...

[Guest Beeks]

Chuff Me Beeks ..... your not in PR by any chance are you???

have you not heard the phrase ''it was only a tenner love'' .....

Hahaha only too often Dawn!!!

[Ste Henderson]

Not offended at all Mr Beeks I don't even tell my self what I spend .

I have to agree with you there 100%

Frivolous is that the term to use

Steve

[Prophonics 2029]

Yes ok its great to spend 200 - 400 but I got a record last might a bit slow for $27.00 and it thrills me to the bones every time I hear it.

So its not what you spend but what you have that no one else has.

[SteveM]

Just a Question on something thats been puzzling me for awhile...

As a record collector the most ive ever paid for a record is £150...and I baulked at that to be honest...but in the Northern Soul scene thats an average price...

So my question is...how the hell do you all afford to spend between £100-5000 on a record?!?

You are mostly older and therefore must have families to support so I just dont get where the income comes from...

Are you all Drug Dealers?

Im on a very decent wage in my job and have no debt or baggage but I would still find it impossible to come up with that kind of cash on a regular basis...

So unless you are premiership footballers and noone told me...how do you raise the cash?

Do you all buy and sell the records? Did you have some gems bought cheap from back in the day and just trade them to buy others?

Id be very interested to know

Interesting question. I've often wondered how my butler and under footman manage to buy vinyl on the pittance I pay them.

[Our Kid]

,IF YOU CONSIDER THAT A GOOD NITE ON THE PISS COULD COST ABOUT 100QUID ,TAXIS,CURRY ETC EVEN MORE WITH THE OTHER HALF IN TOW,AND NOT USUALLY ARE SOULIES PISSHEADS,SO TO GO A NITER AND SPEND IT ON SOMETHING YOU WANT AND WILL ENJOY LONG TERM MAYBE 100-150 ISNT THAT BAD ,BUT LETS FACE IT ONCE IN A WHILE WE ALL GO OVER BUDGET,BY THE WAY CHRIS WADDLE IS A FANATICAL SOULIE/COLLECTOR AND NOT FORGETTING WES BROWN

Not to mention 'The Nugget' himself Steve Davis.Likes his tunes does our Steve

[Guest]

I think it probably helped that some of these guys (and girls!) started collecting when we were no more than twinkles in our daddys eyes! Imagine you bought a record in '68 for 2, 6d or whatever ( ) then in '98 sold it for £700, thats a tidy profit to spend on some fab new gems! IMO of course!

I think you've hit the nail on the head there...

Beeks - when you're out and about, look out for a guy called Mick Howard. Great DJ who has a very cool record collection. He is also one of the luckiest guys I know when it comes to buying records. Many times he's played a great record and when I've gone and asked him about it, he tells me he paid like £2.50 back in 1825... (Sorry Mick - ok it wasn't 1825!).. but you get what I mean.. He also has a good story about a Natural Four record (Hangin on to a lie) that he picked up not too long ago..

Until 2006, I'd spent more in my life on vinyl than I had on property!.. I'm sure I can't be normal.. lol Spending a few hundred quid or more on a record was nothing a few years ago.. though generally for folks like Sean and I who weren't here to buy records 30+ years ago, it is a case of buying and selling your vinyl and getting a second job.

Jayne.x.

Edited July 18, 2008 by Miss BurySoul

[Ted Massey]

credit cards are a god send to this scene and in some cases money that's not your own

Edited July 18, 2008 by Tedsoul

[Guest Beeks]

I think you've hit the nail on the head there...

Beeks - when you're out and about, look out for a guy called Mick Howard. Great DJ who has a very cool record collection. He is also one of the luckiest guys I know when it comes to buying records. Many times he's played a great record and when I've gone and asked him about it, he tells me he paid like £2.50 back in 1825... (Sorry Mick - ok it wasn't 1825!).. but you get what I mean.. He also has a good story about a Natural Four record (Hangin on to a lie) that he picked up not too long ago..

Until 2006, I'd spent more in my life on vinyl than I had on property!.. I'm sure I can't be normal.. lol Spending a few hundred quid or more on a record was nothing a few years ago.. folks like Sean and I who weren't here to buy records 30+ years ago, it is a case of buying and selling your vinyl and getting a second job.

Jayne.x.

I've heard that Andy from Vox Pops Records in town (Manchester) funded his entire business on the discovery of a rare 45 in America...whether thats urban myth ive no idea...never got round to asking him

[Dylan]

good thread.

from a purely financial point of view...

If you knew for a fact you can sell a 45 for a grand then would you bat an eyelid a spending 600 or so on it ?

its just being confident you can make the sale or having to money to go for it.

I personally don't have that kind of money to tie up and apart from the odd exception just look to build my colection as cheap as possible. Spares have to be realy cheap to get me interested.

My spending has gone down dramitically but there have been times in the past where all my dispoable income has gone on 45s for a good few months.

I can't believe you suggested there are drug dealers on the northern soul scene its the cleanest living bunch of people i've ever met.

[Guest]

Yeah thats what I was thinking...suppose unless I get a significant lottery win ill have to stick to re-issues and the odd expensive one that I love

you wont get many spots on this scene if you start DJ'ing with re-issue's y'know...

seriously though, Sean Livesey has built up a very good collection of OVO from being 14 /15, it isn't that difficult, Its' time you need to invest rather than money, always watching out for a bargain, learning and researching prices, labels, etc going through sales boxes and listening to stuff you dont recognise. You can build up a good northern soul collection in no time doing that because there are record dealers at most soul nights and alniters.

Jayne.x.

[KevH]

Interesting question. I've often wondered how my butler and under footman manage to buy vinyl on the pittance I pay them.

.

If this is your way Beeks of trying to get records on the cheap think again .

I earned my fortune from hard work( ),and graft.

Up at the crack of dawn,(no..Not that Dawn ), licking yard owt wi' tongue,before off to a 16 hour shift down t'pit.

After that i started my own "business" - car booting.

I was only saying the other day to Theo Paphitis," You know mush,i've made that much money,i'm gonna invest it all....................in Northern Soul records and pay a fortune for 'em along the way".

Drug dealing,gambling,holding up banks.........steer clear of them.

Paying up yer mortgage,inheriting money,pulling scams,...its the future.

[Guest]

credit cards are a god send to this scene and in some cases money that's not your own

too true.. I remember turning 21, got a credit card and subscribed to Tim Brown's list... it's been a disaster ever since!..

Jayne.x.

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

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If this is your way Beeks of trying to get records on the cheap think again .

I earned my fortune from hard work( ),and graft.

Up at the crack of dawn,(no..Not that Dawn ), licking yard owt wi' tongue,before off to a 16 hour shift down t'pit.

After that i started my own "business" - car booting.

I was only saying the other day to Theo Paphitis," You know mush,i've made that much money,i'm gonna invest it all....................in Northern Soul records and pay a fortune for 'em along the way".

Drug dealing,gambling,holding up banks.........steer clear of them.

Paying up yer mortgage,inheriting money,pulling scams,...its the future.

[Guest Beeks]

I just get the feeling I was born in the wrong era...this cements that fact...while you were buying soul gems down Wigan Casino in its heyday...I was out spending £500 a month on house records in the late 80s...I now am the owner of 5000 dance records I couldn't give away...and you are all stinking rich...there is no god

Edited July 18, 2008 by Beeks

[Ted Massey]

too true.. I remember turning 21, got a credit card and subscribed to Tim Brown's list... it's been a disaster ever since!..

Jayne.x.

I think some one spent 5k at one of koppels many collection sales and was still paying for it a good fews years later

[Dylan]

Its' time you need to invest rather than money,

it certainly is agree totally.

the more you can learn the more chance of finding good 45s cheap.

i've been "into" soul for prehaps 8-9 years now and I don't think you ever stop hearing new records.

[KevH]

I just get the feeling I was born in the wrong era...this cements that fact...while you were buying soul gems down Wigan Casino in its heyday...I was out spending £500 on house records in the late 80s...I now am the owner of 5000 dance records I couldn't give away...and you are all stinking rich...there is no god

nowt wrong with house music Beeks ..ooops did i just say that .I'll have 'em.

[Guest]

I just get the feeling I was born in the wrong era...this cements that fact...while you were buying soul gems down Wigan Casino in its heyday...I was out spending £500 on house records in the late 80s...I now am the owner of 5000 dance records I couldn't give away...and you are all stinking rich...there is no god

I feel your pain.... my queen collection (that I worked hard to get) is worth f'k all.

Maybe your dance records will have their day in ten years or so.. if they're rare enough and enough people try to re-ignite the scene...

Jayne.

[KevH]

I just get the feeling I was born in the wrong era...this cements that fact...while you were buying soul gems down Wigan Casino in its heyday...I was out spending .........£500 on a house

records in the late 80s...I now am the owner of 5000 dance records I couldn't give away...and you are all stinking rich...there is no god

that's weird,i paid exactly that amount for my first house too!!

[SteveM]

I feel your pain.... my queen collection (that I worked hard to get) is worth f'k all.

Maybe your dance records will have their day in ten years or so.. if they're rare enough and enough people try to re-ignite the scene...

Jayne.

As long as no young kids come along to spoil it for them

[Ted Massey]

I went to a record fair with Andy spencer back in 1985 and he bought Jimmy Mack knackerd copy for £65

got home and said to the missus you will never guess how much andy's just spent on one record wasnt long before i was doing the same, never told her how much i was spending thou

[Guest]

it certainly is agree totally.

the more you can learn the more chance of finding good 45s cheap.

i've been "into" soul for prehaps 8-9 years now and I don't think you ever stop hearing new records.

And chatting about them. Taking advantage of the knowledge of some of the 'more experienced' collectors is invaluable.

I bet most people on here now who buy records have at some point been sat up at all hours of the night watching and waiting for an auction to end because they're buying records or travelled miles to a do because they're picking up a certain record. I've seen people logging on, watching records at weekenders too. Far more committed that I ever have been..

Jayne.x

[Guest]

I just get the feeling I was born in the wrong era...this cements that fact...while you were buying soul gems down Wigan Casino in its heyday...I was out spending £500 on house records in the late 80s...I now am the owner of 5000 dance records I couldn't give away...and you are all stinking rich...there is no god

Keep em' Beeks everything in circles just stick it out long enough,i mean when your like say!! 130 getting your money back might help pay the lecy.

Edited July 18, 2008 by ken

[Guest]

As long as no young kids come along to spoil it for them

most 'normal' people of this generation are having families now. Another 10 years and my generation will be out about again..

Beeks - keep those records, you never know!.

Jayne.x.

[SteveM]

most 'normal' people of this generation are having families now. Another 10 years and my generation will be out about again..

Beeks - keep those records, you never know!.

Jayne.x.

You've misunderstood my point/jibe Jayne.

[Dylan]

most 'normal' people of this generation are having families now. Jayne.x.

if it was only the "normal" people that had children then the world would be a better place....

[Guest Beeks]

Keep em' Beeks everything in circles just stick it out long enough,i mean when your like say!! 130 getting your money back might help pay the lecy.

Kenny you are a fookin legend mate hahahaha...I HAVE to buy you a beer at some point!!

[KevH]

You've misunderstood my point/jibe Jayne.

what could you have meant? .i'm off now....down to the spar shop for the reductions and 2 fer 1's.

[Guest]

You've misunderstood my point/jibe Jayne.

Dur... and I had to read it another 3 times before I got it..

Jayne.

[Pete Eccles]

For a thread that initially didn't warrant 'a reply' it ain't done bad in a couple of hours,

Nice one Beeks

Pete

[Guest Beeks]

For a thread that initially didn't warrant 'a reply' it ain't done bad in a couple of hours,

Nice one Beeks

Pete

Haha...you see Pete...even when I post something interesting they find it hard accepting it

[Guest Ste Brazil]

Im on a very decent wage in my job and have no debt or baggage...

You soon will have!!!

Ste.

[gazman]

I just get the feeling I was born in the wrong era...this cements that fact...while you were buying soul gems down Wigan Casino in its heyday...I was out spending £500 a month on house records in the late 80s...I now am the owner of 5000 dance records I couldn't give away...and you are all stinking rich...there is no god

You know what they say, there's money in muck!!!

I had a big collection of deep house and garage, i've had no problems selling, giving away and donating these, there's still a big market. The funds i made went towards buying more soul records. Happy days!!

gary

[SteveM]

Dur... and I had to read it another 3 times before I got it..

Jayne.