Vinyl Cutting/carving

[soulAdequateNP]

Hmm...wonder if the hardline purists will do their own version of a certain annoyingly sanctimonious advert currently all over TV, relyriced to "Knock Off Nigel Spins Knock Off Vinyl"?

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

Simple if your doing a party and have say cd players and want a song you can't afford on vinyl but can get it on cd cheaper let's say record worth £500 but can be brought on a cd comp for £10 buy the cd and get more tracks (maybe some you don;t own already). i wouldn't get a rare record cut because i wanted it. i would try someday to buy original

Tracks on Albums (vinyl) not on singles you want for 45 why get them made for 45 when you play the album same as if it's a cd album also released on vinyl.

i would only ever get a vinyl carver if it's a track that is only ever released on cd (not vinyl) and it's a really good record i like and right now only 1 comes to mind and that is Jackson 5 version of Just a Little Misunderstanding because i find it a better version then the original and would love to play it out.

[Dave Pinch]

just a quick thought !! I really want a " Thats why I love you " but at the moment can not afford the original , a local DJ said really if i paid Steve callaway ( a friend of mine from the group who sang on lead) a agreeable fee between us i could get a carvers done and play it out to DJ with. my thoughts this would be cheating ! to me it would not be like owning an original , although Steve as said to me to do it with out a fee to honer his legacy as he knows i ve not pressed them to sell and make money

you please yourself mate. it doesnt matter what others think

dave

[Garrison]

An Airtown test pressing? Not off me. I did have a proper acetate of the Vondells with an Airtown label and I might have sold him that but not a carvers with a label stuck on as far as I know. And yeah, it would have been for profit, so what?

yes pete it was a acetate with a airtown label , i was only stating that the sound quality was good for a acetate , and also i only paid a few quid for it so wheres the profit in that , a matter of fact you more or less give it away

[Guest]

For the sake of this debate - no one has raised the "Serato" alternative. I'm sure it's been done on these forums to death in the past. I guess it's the happy medium between the Cd/Mp3 vs. Vinyl although the control records are not a 7" format. All those hard to get/exspensive toons are at your fingertips in an instant & no one gets a royalty payment~!. Not my cuppa tea tho'.....

[Pete S]

yes pete it was a acetate with a airtown label , i was only stating that the sound quality was good for a acetate , and also i only paid a few quid for it so wheres the profit in that , a matter of fact you more or less give it away

I used to get those done in the States by "The Audio Lathe", they were fantastic quality...this was in the pre carvers days. What was on the other side Nidge?

[Garrison]

I used to get those done in the States by "The Audio Lathe", they were fantastic quality...this was in the pre carvers days. What was on the other side Nidge?

ray agee pete - im losing again . i still av it mate never played it ,apart from at home

dont think i dare would get hung drawn and quarted

[Pete S]

ray agee pete - im losing again . i still av it mate never played it ,apart from at home

dont think i dare would get hung drawn and quarted

I would...if I was asked to

[Guest andrew bin]

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how do get the middles out of the photocopies pete ???

hobbie craft sell circular hole cutters, i bought one to cut holes in lable stickers for one of our anniversary cd's https://www.hobbycraft.co.uk/

or you can get one these https://www.americanbuttonmachines.com/Cutters.html

[Guest andrew bin]

or you can cut you'r own

https://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR34618

[wolfie66]

Simple if your doing a party and have say cd players and want a song you can't afford on vinyl but can get it on cd cheaper let's say record worth £500 but can be brought on a cd comp for £10 buy the cd and get more tracks (maybe some you don;t own already). i wouldn't get a rare record cut because i wanted it. i would try someday to buy original

Tracks on Albums (vinyl) not on singles you want for 45 why get them made for 45 when you play the album same as if it's a cd album also released on vinyl.

i would only ever get a vinyl carver if it's a track that is only ever released on cd (not vinyl) and it's a really good record i like and right now only 1 comes to mind and that is Jackson 5 version of Just a Little Misunderstanding because i find it a better version then the original and would love to play it out.

And this is where it all becomes relative - "I would only get a vinyl carver if it's only ever released on CD and it's a really good record I like (..) and would love to play it out" - so that'd be a bootleg copy then? It all comes down to personal ethics, doesn't make any of us "right". You want to play it out 'cos you like it, I want a vinyl copy 'cos I like it, and me and me mates parties are vinyl only - we all like to have a pop. Why don't you play a CD at your do's? I'm no DJ, I just love the music - if I had a spare £500 I'd spend it on a holiday not a 7" circle of vinyl, it's not worth that to me - or my wife and kids, it's all relative, and they'd b*st*rd kill me if I spent that on a tune!!

[mischief]

Hammer not easy playing off a CD as not that many venues have CD players, so if the track is CD only chances you get to play it out are slim..

[Hitsville Chalky]

just a quick thought !! I really want a " Thats why I love you " but at the moment can not afford the original , a local DJ said really if i paid Steve callaway ( a friend of mine from the group who sang on lead) a agreeable fee between us i could get a carvers done and play it out to DJ with. my thoughts this would be cheating ! to me it would not be like owning an original , although Steve as said to me to do it with out a fee to honer his legacy as he knows i ve not pressed them to sell and make money

you please yourself mate. it doesnt matter what others think

dave

THANKS DAVE MATE

[wolfie66]

Hammer not easy playing off a CD as not that many venues have CD players, so if the track is CD only chances you get to play it out are slim..

Yeah, just playing Devil's advocate mischief (and maybe being a little fascetious too ) Point is I - and my mates - get turned on by vinyl, hence our playing of carvers if we can't get/afford the real thing at parties. I still don't really believe the 'harming or belittling the original artists' argument, hence don't see what harm I'm doing playing Steve Flannagan or Little Nicky Soul off a carver - I get to fill the floor with people who'd never heard them before, they get the buzz of dancing/hearing great new tunes that, who knows, might even turn them on to the real thing or the scene itself - everybody's happy!! I've been turned on to some great old Prestige/Blue Note jazz or Luv'n'Haight funk tunes in the meantime which I wouldn't have known otherwise. That's what it's all about really, isn't it?

[NEV]

I'm with you, for home personal use I'd sooner just use cd's or mp3's (pc goes through stereo). Carvers I use for unissued stuff for DJing only.

Wonder if you could help me Chalky

For a while now ive been collecting mp3's of all the rarer stuff played at LIFELINE

You know ,the unissued/cover up stuff and totally outta most people price range.

Am thinkin of getting them put onto cavers ,maybe lp to save money??

What i'd like(apart from a mp3 of that martha jean love track)

is to put on a kind of "lifeline tribute" night for those of us that can't do niters.

Do ya think the guy's at lifeline would object???

[pikeys dog]

Wonder if you could help me Chalky

For a while now ive been collecting mp3's of all the rarer stuff played at LIFELINE

You know ,the unissued/cover up stuff and totally outta most people price range.

Am thinkin of getting them put onto cavers ,maybe lp to save money??

What i'd like(apart from a mp3 of that martha jean love track)

is to put on a kind of "lifeline tribute" night for those of us that can't do niters.

Do ya think the guy's at lifeline would object???

Class.

[Trev Thomas]

Wonder if you could help me Chalky

For a while now ive been collecting mp3's of all the rarer stuff played at LIFELINE

You know ,the unissued/cover up stuff and totally outta most people price range.

Am thinkin of getting them put onto cavers ,maybe lp to save money??

What i'd like(apart from a mp3 of that martha jean love track)

is to put on a kind of "lifeline tribute" night for those of us that can't do niters.

Do ya think the guy's at lifeline would object???

yeah, right nev.....im sure butch would give his blessing, a tribute night, with all his one-offs being played off carvers, im sure if you ask him nicely he'll put them all on mp3 for you & send label scans , hang on a minute....isnt there already a butch tribute act already on the scene.....ah yes, james trouble

Edited July 12, 2008 by soulman1964

[Guest kid mohair]

Well you pleases yoursleves...I can't afford the originals so I make them myself, they look pretty good and you can touch them, feel them, look at them, play them...you can play a cd but it's not like having a record. Anyway, I did have 3 out of the 4 below as originals at one time...

This is the problem there will always be a market for fakes........ and the key word being......... HAD.

Edited July 12, 2008 by kid mohair

[Guest gordon russell]

would not attend a venue if l knew carvers of released tunes were being played and l would'nt go to a venue again if l saw it happening.promoters should'nt employ dj's who indulge in this practice. sorry if l've upset anyone t

[Guest kid mohair]

would not attend a venue if l knew carvers of released tunes were being played and l would'nt go to a venue again if l saw it happening.promoters should'nt employ dj's who indulge in this practice. sorry if l've upset anyone t

i think the same .........

[Pete S]

This is the problem there will always be a market for fakes........ and the key word being......... HAD.

You can put as many glum looking smileys as you like, makes no difference to me, if I want to cut something onto a record I'll do it, don't know why you even bother commenting - they are not fakes for the consumption of the general public. They are my own copies.

Edited July 12, 2008 by Pete S

[Guest kid mohair]

You can put as many glum looking smileys as you like, makes no difference to me, if I want to cut something onto a record I'll do it, don't know why you even bother commenting - they are not fakes for the consumption of the general public. They are my own copies.

Till u sell em......... ..Good night.

[Pete S]

Till u sell em......... ..Good night.

Yeah and the artists get just the same amount when people sell their original record for £500, nothing. Fool.

Edited July 12, 2008 by Pete S

[michael-j]

no-one can argue with putting the following on a vinylcarver, surely?

- acetates

- cracked records

- poor quality styrene

[wolfie66]

S'good on here ennit? Still don't get what the arguing's about really - if you don't want to go to a do that's playing boots/carvers/re-issues/UK then don't go, if you want a carver for private do's or your own consumption then carve the b*st*rd and spin it out with your mates or boogie round the kitchen to it - and I'm certainly not going to flog 'em (well not to any of you lot anyway )

Would be interesting to see if everyone against them has any downloads of tunes they don't actually own on vinyl/CD That maybe they put on a compilation for the car? Any difference?