What Are The Legal Ins And Out Of This?

[Pete S]

Every time I buy a cd, I record it to an external hard drive, consequently my hard drive contains labout a thousand cd's, plus my entire reggae vinyl collection is on there, about 400 youtube clips and loads of wigan recordings etc.

If I were to sell this, am I allowed to sell it with the content intact and charge for what it contains, or would I have to wipe it? I no longer have the original cd's and these were the back up copies.

[pikeys dog]

At a guess, you would only be able to leave the sound files on if you were selling them as back ups to a collection of CDs...

Since the CDs aren't in with the sale, i would imagine that it fould be classed as illegal reproduction.

[Supercorsa]

Unless of course you put on a disclaimer like another site that I've seen. Lists loads of soundfiles to buy on CD, but disclaimer states something like; By buying this CDs you are saying you own the originals and are having these as backup files (or something along those lines). What a load of b*ll*x!

I thing legally the hard disc would have to be wiped.

[Pete S]

Unless of course you put on a disclaimer like another site that I've seen. Lists loads of soundfiles to buy on CD, but disclaimer states something like; By buying this CDs you are saying you own the originals and are having these as backup files (or something along those lines). What a load of b*ll*x!

I thing legally the hard disc would have to be wiped.

Tragic wiping that lot off, especially the youtube collection. Don't think I could do it.

[wolfie66]

Yep, unless you sold to someone who happened to have all the relevant hard copies both yourself and they would be infringing copyright laws, though how anyone would ever find out?

If the potential buyer were to turn up in an EMI/Island/etc van though.....?

[Guest ScooterNik]

You'd have no defence even if they had the orignals, especially with the youtube stuff. You make copies for your own good, its up to others to back their own stuff up, and even that isn't 100% legal, certain aspects of music reproduction remain at the very best a grey area.

Having said that, if the purchaser did have all the originals, I would doubt that he'd even see the inside of the court.

[Glyn Williams]

all illegal pete - you arent even allowed to make backup copies for yourself.

that's the law over here i'm afraid.

in the US it's been challenged under 'fair use' laws and i think they won but not sure. still wouldnt be legal in english law though matey

[Pete S]

all illegal pete - you arent even allowed to make backup copies for yourself.

that's the law over here i'm afraid.

in the US it's been challenged under 'fair use' laws and i think they won but not sure. still wouldnt be legal in english law though matey

I remember seeing someone on ebay selling a hard drive containing about 100 computer games - how do they get away with it?

[Peter]

I remember seeing someone on ebay selling a hard drive containing about 100 computer games - how do they get away with it?

Don't know if this is any help, a few years ago a friend of mine put a Nintendo Gamecube for sale on Ebay, included in the package were a number of games copied on to cd's as well as a few originals, ebay asked him to remove the item as they (ebay) do not allow the selling of pirated games etc.

So he relisted the package, saying whoever bought the Gamecube would get a selection of backed up games for free, and he made the sale.

Edited June 30, 2008 by Peter

[Glyn Williams]

I remember seeing someone on ebay selling a hard drive containing about 100 computer games - how do they get away with it?

just sheer cheek - they don't last long till they are found out. - supposing they are illegal copies of course and not just shareware