sorry if this is in the wrong thread - not sure where to put it.

How would others handle this situation, I am at a loss? I will try to keep it brief.

In March a trade is agreed with a 'friend' who I thought I could trust. I post him a mint copy of record A. He is meant to send me a mint copy of record B. I receive nothing despite my contacting him many times.

In May I see him at an allnighter and he has a copy of record B however it resembles 'mint' as much as a fruit pastel does! The label is worn terribly and the vinyl looks like Torvill & Dean have been practicing their Bellaro routine on it. I refuse to take record B in that condition and ask for record A back - it is sold on.

I was then told I will receive a list that I can choose from in replacement. I get a list full of trash with nothing that I would consider buying at half the price. I ask for a cash replacement, giving a HUGE reduction in price agreed. Guy tells me he is selling some BIG money records and I will receive cash then.

BIG money records appear on here and are sold. Still I get nothing.

I received a text two weeks ago saying that he has boxed up a load of his remaining records and will post them to me - at last some compensation! The text also contained a message asking me for a favour???

I have heard nothing from the guy since.

Mike

  mikecook said:

sorry if this is in the wrong thread - not sure where to put it.

How would others handle this situation, I am at a loss? I will try to keep it brief.

In March a trade is agreed with a 'friend' who I thought I could trust. I post him a mint copy of record A. He is meant to send me a mint copy of record B. I receive nothing despite my contacting him many times.

In May I see him at an allnighter and he has a copy of record B however it resembles 'mint' as much as a fruit pastel does! The label is worn terribly and the vinyl looks like Torvill & Dean have been practicing their Bellaro routine on it. I refuse to take record B in that condition and ask for record A back - it is sold on.

I was then told I will receive a list that I can choose from in replacement. I get a list full of trash with nothing that I would consider buying at half the price. I ask for a cash replacement, giving a HUGE reduction in price agreed. Guy tells me he is selling some BIG money records and I will receive cash then.

BIG money records appear on here and are sold. Still I get nothing.

I received a text two weeks ago saying that he has boxed up a load of his remaining records and will post them to me - at last some compensation! The text also contained a message asking me for a favour???

I have heard nothing from the guy since.

Mike

If he can't supply record 'B' as agreed then a full refund should be offered, can't believe he sold record 'A' before he completed the deal with you, still if you name and shame him on here no doubt there will be excuses left right and sideways and you will still not get your record or money back as some people have a knack of fucking people around and still come up smelling of roses, personally I would have stuck one on him but that's just me.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

is he a soulsourcer?? if so name and shame,wot an absolute wanker

Punch his lights out.

Forgive him.

Dealing with mates is like working with family (especially extended), its just a matter of time before they screw up.

Assuming your non violent, as an alternative to retribution, write down what happened bit by bit and send it to him with a note indicating that you will take him to a small claims court (unless record A was the Magnetics or the like) unless a solution is found PDQ. then he will know whats happens if he continues to ignore it.

Also as previously mentioned, name names, so the couple of thousand soul-sources reading this forum avoid the same plight and put pressure on the bounder to save a reputation.

Ed

  phild said:

Forgive him.

Don't know about John 14:6 I think a bit of Ezekiel 25:17 is more the case!

Edited June 27, 200816 yr by Trevski

OK, difficult one.

Give the guy a little room to manouver.

The credit-crunch means cash-flow is not what it used to be and if the guy's a dealer he may well have over-extended himself. Tell him you need complete resolution and fix a reasonable timetable.

Tell him straight that if he messes up you'll be pissed-off and after that all bets will be off and his reputation will potentially be in tatters forevermore.....

That's probably what I do if it's any help.

Hope it gets resolved pronto.

Ian D

  phild said:

Forgive him.

  phild said:

Forgive him.

Nice one Phil. It's not you is it?

  phild said:

Forgive him.

this is the best post on soul source ever

I'd set fire to his hair.

UMMMMMM TORVILLE AND DEAN AT A SOUL NIGHT I ALWAYS FANCIED HER ,SHE HAD A GREAT PAIR OF LEGS AND NO PERSONALITY AT ALL ! YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS TO DEAL WITH THIS GUY WHO IS OBVIOUSLY TAKING YOUR GOOD NATURE FOR GRANTED.

1. SEND HIM TO THE GLUT OF SOUL NIGHTS UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY AND INSIST HE LISTENS TO THE CARSTAIRS AND JOEY DELERONZO AT LEAST 3 TIMES EACH.

2.SUGEST WIGAN CAFINO AND SPIKE HIS LARTE!

3 SUGGEST BRUNCH NOT CREDIT GRUNCH! [OH AND FORGIVE HIM]

BAZ A

  mikecook said:

sorry if this is in the wrong thread - not sure where to put it.

How would others handle this situation, I am at a loss? I will try to keep it brief.

In March a trade is agreed with a 'friend' who I thought I could trust. I post him a mint copy of record A. He is meant to send me a mint copy of record B. I receive nothing despite my contacting him many times.

In May I see him at an allnighter and he has a copy of record B however it resembles 'mint' as much as a fruit pastel does! The label is worn terribly and the vinyl looks like Torvill & Dean have been practicing their Bellaro routine on it. I refuse to take record B in that condition and ask for record A back - it is sold on.

I was then told I will receive a list that I can choose from in replacement. I get a list full of trash with nothing that I would consider buying at half the price. I ask for a cash replacement, giving a HUGE reduction in price agreed. Guy tells me he is selling some BIG money records and I will receive cash then.

BIG money records appear on here and are sold. Still I get nothing.

I received a text two weeks ago saying that he has boxed up a load of his remaining records and will post them to me - at last some compensation! The text also contained a message asking me for a favour???

I have heard nothing from the guy since.

Mike

how long have you given im to sort out ? if not sorted name and shame will do him more harm but like mark say "he will come out of it smelling of rose's they allways do people like that, good luck any way regards john"o"

  Dave Moore said:

Nice one Phil. It's not you is it?

No. Not at all.

I have however caused people problems in the past I admit. And as I come across people whom I have previously wronged I am sorting these issues out.

I just hope I live long enough to undo all my wrongs. It's a big list as I was a total twat for much of my life.

Phil

  boba said:

this is the best post on soul source ever

Why thank you Bob. Forgiveness is so refreshing, exhilarating and liberating I find.

Phil

  phild said:

No. Not at all.

I have however caused people problems in the past I admit. And as I come across people whom I have previously wronged I am sorting these issues out.

I just hope I live long enough to undo all my wrongs. It's a big list as I was a total twat for much of my life.

Phil

nice post bud, i admire yr honesty

  phild said:

No. Not at all.

I have however caused people problems in the past I admit. And as I come across people whom I have previously wronged I am sorting these issues out.

I just hope I live long enough to undo all my wrongs. It's a big list as I was a total twat for much of my life.

Phil

Thank you all for taking the time to respond. All of your comments are very much appreciated (especially pikeys dog, 'set his hair alite' ).

Phil, your post really stings I am taking similar steps in my life and your post has given another perspective that now makes me feel a bit of a hypocrite

mike

  mikecook said:

Thank you all for taking the time to respond. All of your comments are very much appreciated (especially pikeys dog, 'set his hair alite' ).

Phil, your post really stings I am taking similar steps in my life and your post has given another perspective that now makes me feel a bit of a hypocrite

mike

Sorry Mike.

Didn't mean to "sting". However, if he is/was a friend then I think you'll find forgiving him and then discussing it with him will quite possibly "sting" him into sorting the issue out.

Phil

  phild said:

No. Not at all.

I have however caused people problems in the past I admit. And as I come across people whom I have previously wronged I am sorting these issues out.

I just hope I live long enough to undo all my wrongs. It's a big list as I was a total twat for much of my life.

Phil

                                                        Sounds strangely familiar...

                                   

Edited June 28, 200816 yr by Trevski

  pikeys dog said:

I'd set fire to his hair.

Yeah yeah his pubic hair.

  pikeys dog said:

I'd set fire to his hair.

I've always wanted to do this to someone

Maybe I will one day....

As for this problem, have you spoken to said friend properly about it? Let him know that this has taken too long to resolve etc and that as friends you'd trusted him to honour his part of the deal. let him know that you're no longer willing to accept vinyl in payment, but would like the cash. What did he sell the record for, as thats the money that you should receive.

Got to agree with what someone else said though - there are a lot of arseholes out there that always come up smelling of roses.

  Kirsty said:

I've always wanted to do this to someone

Maybe I will one day....

As for this problem, have you spoken to said friend properly about it? Let him know that this has taken too long to resolve etc and that as friends you'd trusted him to honour his part of the deal. let him know that you're no longer willing to accept vinyl in payment, but would like the cash. What did he sell the record for, as thats the money that you should receive.

Got to agree with what someone else said though - there are a lot of arseholes out there that always come up smelling of roses.

hi Kirsty. have spoken many times over a 3 month period and have gotten nowhere.

I have decided to take Phild's advice as i have not been squeeky cleen myself in the past - and like phild, i too have a list of amends that i am working through

who knows, one day the guy may have a change of attitude and i will get reimbursed then.

Trevski: 'my name is earl' made me laugh as my missus makes referrence to that constantly

thanks again for all your responses. the matter has been put to bed for me now

mike

  mikecook said:

hi Kirsty. have spoken many times over a 3 month period and have gotten nowhere.

I have decided to take Phild's advice as i have not been squeeky cleen myself in the past - and like phild, i too have a list of amends that i am working through

who knows, one day the guy may have a change of attitude and i will get reimbursed then.

Trevski: 'my name is earl' made me laugh as my missus makes referrence to that constantly

thanks again for all your responses. the matter has been put to bed for me now

mike

Nice one Mike. Well done

its a tough one...

When i am fucked off with a friend or familly member which is fairly often.

Reading this helps its a poem I got at School by William Blake

A Poison Tree:

I was angry with my friend:

I told my wrath, my wrath did end.

I was angry with my foe:

I told it not, my wrath did grow.

And I watered it in fears,

Night and morning with my tears;

And I sunned it with smiles,

And with soft deceitful wiles.

And it grew both day and night,

Till it bore an apple bright,

And my foe beheld it shine,

And he knew that it was mine,

And into my garden stole,

When the night had veiled the pole.

In the morning, glad I see

My foe outstretched beneath the tree.

And before anyone asks I dont know what my familly andfriends do when they are fucked off by me which must be fairly often also...

  mikecook said:

Thank you all for taking the time to respond. All of your comments are very much appreciated (especially pikeys dog, 'set his hair alite' ).

Hair!!!!!!!!!!!!! it wont be hard to narrow him down then eh!! .

Just piss in his petrol tank, snap his wind screen wipers off ,shove em up his arse, let is tyres down.

or alternatively you could book him in for a BSC wax, and l being in the trade would gladly do the deed and you could help.

OOOOpps starting to sound like l dont like men much and am speaking from personal experience.....l'm not like that really ..........l'm worse

just as a matter of interest (nosey really) are you gonna let us know what the said records were ?

  baz atkinson said:

UMMMMMM TORVILLE AND DEAN AT A SOUL NIGHT I ALWAYS FANCIED HER ,SHE HAD A GREAT PAIR OF LEGS AND NO PERSONALITY AT ALL ! YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS TO DEAL WITH THIS GUY WHO IS OBVIOUSLY TAKING YOUR GOOD NATURE FOR GRANTED.

1. SEND HIM TO THE GLUT OF SOUL NIGHTS UP AND DOWN THE COUNTRY AND INSIST HE LISTENS TO THE CARSTAIRS AND JOEY DELERONZO AT LEAST 3 TIMES EACH.

2.SUGEST WIGAN CAFINO AND SPIKE HIS LARTE!

3 SUGGEST BRUNCH NOT CREDIT GRUNCH! [OH AND FORGIVE HIM]

BAZ A

Wait a god damm minute, Ive only just started getting into 'Wake up to the sunshine girl' and now I find its gone by its sell by date?

You Northern Soulies move too fast. If the top 100 (of the last 5 years) have been replaced can someone (on a new thread maybe) list what they are

And dont start about the Carstairs, right place right time, best soul record ever.

Ed

  sandi said:

Just piss in his petrol tank, snap his wind screen wipers off ,shove em up his arse, let is tyres down.

or alternatively you could book him in for a BSC wax, and l being in the trade would gladly do the deed and you could help.

OOOOpps starting to sound like l dont like men much and am speaking from personal experience.....l'm not like that really ..........l'm worse

just as a matter of interest (nosey really) are you gonna let us know what the said records were ?

OMG

I had put the matter to bed - and what the records were didnt seem of significance.

however, after reading what you would do to someone who crossed you I am terrified that if i dont name the records i could end up with a hairless crack that can wipe itself

now i have a new dilema worse than the first

mike

  Kirsty said:

I've always wanted to do this to someone

Maybe I will one day....

we have...a few times went on a stag do once years ago, one lad fell asleep on way home, so his hair went up in smoke

Remember at Dome someone with hairy legs in shorts at bar...Andy saw them and whoosh...legs no longer hairy

oh dear, and lm such a sweet girlie thing. Im only jesting, but if you did set his hair alight you could always try and put it out in a good will gesture.........with petrol. Done it again aint l ? oops.

On a serious note tho, hope you made upish with this mate, resign yourself to waving goodbye to the said record and if you were to drop it out what the A & B are, then you might just get lucky, someone might be able to sort you out .

Wish you luck mate.

Sandi x

  Trevski said:

Punch his lights out.

I agree with Trevski - although he was a tad more eloquent than my initial thought which was " punch the cnuts face in and see how many modern soul records you can fit in his arse crack, then p*ss in his record box and finally offer to help return his record collection to mint condition by cleaning them all with hot soapy water and a wire brush" - not that I bear grudges or owt

Edited June 30, 200816 yr by soul99 easylay

  Kirsty said:

I've always wanted to do this to someone

Maybe I will one day....

As for this problem, have you spoken to said friend properly about it? Let him know that this has taken too long to resolve etc and that as friends you'd trusted him to honour his part of the deal. let him know that you're no longer willing to accept vinyl in payment, but would like the cash. What did he sell the record for, as thats the money that you should receive.

Got to agree with what someone else said though - there are a lot of arseholes out there that always come up smelling of roses.

I have - you want to see how fast it goes up - like a bloody bush fire!

  mikecook said:

sorry if this is in the wrong thread - not sure where to put it.

How would others handle this situation, I am at a loss? I will try to keep it brief.

In March a trade is agreed with a 'friend' who I thought I could trust. I post him a mint copy of record A. He is meant to send me a mint copy of record B. I receive nothing despite my contacting him many times.

In May I see him at an allnighter and he has a copy of record B however it resembles 'mint' as much as a fruit pastel does! The label is worn terribly and the vinyl looks like Torvill & Dean have been practicing their Bellaro routine on it. I refuse to take record B in that condition and ask for record A back - it is sold on.

I was then told I will receive a list that I can choose from in replacement. I get a list full of trash with nothing that I would consider buying at half the price. I ask for a cash replacement, giving a HUGE reduction in price agreed. Guy tells me he is selling some BIG money records and I will receive cash then.

BIG money records appear on here and are sold. Still I get nothing.

I received a text two weeks ago saying that he has boxed up a load of his remaining records and will post them to me - at last some compensation! The text also contained a message asking me for a favour???

I have heard nothing from the guy since.

Mike

A bullet in the head should sort the b****** !

Ste.

1stly name him.....then get his legs broken....mate you are way too trusting, vynyl makes people do very strange things.

KTF

Baz

  mikecook said:

sorry if this is in the wrong thread - not sure where to put it.

How would others handle this situation, I am at a loss? I will try to keep it brief.

In March a trade is agreed with a 'friend' who I thought I could trust. I post him a mint copy of record A. He is meant to send me a mint copy of record B. I receive nothing despite my contacting him many times.

In May I see him at an allnighter and he has a copy of record B however it resembles 'mint' as much as a fruit pastel does! The label is worn terribly and the vinyl looks like Torvill & Dean have been practicing their Bellaro routine on it. I refuse to take record B in that condition and ask for record A back - it is sold on.

I was then told I will receive a list that I can choose from in replacement. I get a list full of trash with nothing that I would consider buying at half the price. I ask for a cash replacement, giving a HUGE reduction in price agreed. Guy tells me he is selling some BIG money records and I will receive cash then.

BIG money records appear on here and are sold. Still I get nothing.

I received a text two weeks ago saying that he has boxed up a load of his remaining records and will post them to me - at last some compensation! The text also contained a message asking me for a favour???

I have heard nothing from the guy since.

Mike

  chalky said:

Remember at Dome someone with hairy legs in shorts at bar...Andy saw them and whoosh...legs no longer hairy

That reminds me. I've not seen or heard from Dave G in a while.

Stick the heid on him!

long time has passed and he has finaly contacted me (text messages). for those that are interested, will post an update saturday evening