Blake H Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Gil Scott Heron "Lady day & John Coltrane"/"When you are who you are" UK Phillips Been looking out for this brilliant double sider for years to no avail, does it ever crop up in sales boxes at venues? It never seems to turn up on Ebay either so I guess its a toughie, anyone seen it for sale recently? BH
Martint Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 AFAIK it's not mega rare, maybe just not one that people sell on because it's so good and doesn't sell for that much. I was under the impression it was £25-40 - wouldn't sell mine for that (or at all in fact)..... maybe you can flush one out here somewhere and GL in doing so .
Girthdevon Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Gil Scott Heron "Lady day & John Coltrane"/"When you are who you are" UK Phillips Been looking out for this brilliant double sider for years to no avail, does it ever crop up in sales boxes at venues? It never seems to turn up on Ebay either so I guess its a toughie, anyone seen it for sale recently? BH Allo Blake, I found one by chance about 6-7 years ago - not realising til then that When You Are was on a 45. I've had just one spare since then and sold it @ £25. Could have sold about 5 or 6 but only had the one. Love WYAWYA, and have cleared a few dancefloors in recent years with it......must be good !!! Cheers Girth
Sean Hampsey Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Cleethorpes Monster! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMFN2e4wMnw Sean
Lfcjunkie Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Gil Scott Heron "Lady day & John Coltrane"/"When you are who you are" UK Phillips Been looking out for this brilliant double sider for years to no avail, does it ever crop up in sales boxes at venues? It never seems to turn up on Ebay either so I guess its a toughie, anyone seen it for sale recently? BH hi blake missed one on ebay about a month ago went for £12
Blake H Posted June 21, 2008 Author Posted June 21, 2008 hi blake missed one on ebay about a month ago went for £12 Thats an arse as I have it in my search's...never saw that go through, oh well keep on looking BH
Blake H Posted June 21, 2008 Author Posted June 21, 2008 Cleethorpes Monster! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMFN2e4wMnw Sean Was it one of your many monsters Mr H? BH
Soul Shrews Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Which LP is "When You..........." on please Fantastic track Cheers Paul
Girthdevon Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Which LP is "When You..........." on please Fantastic track Cheers Paul Its on 'Pieces Of A Man'.........quality all thru...... Girf
Sean Hampsey Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Was it one of your many monsters Mr H? BH Hi Blake, Me and Steve Croft (and I'm pretty sure Darran played it too). Very big record for several months. I reviewed it in BlackBeat at the time... and can remember one guy telling me I must be a 'Jazz Freak' Sean
Steve Plumb Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Gil Scott Heron "Lady day & John Coltrane"/"When you are who you are" UK Phillips Been looking out for this brilliant double sider for years to no avail, does it ever crop up in sales boxes at venues? It never seems to turn up on Ebay either so I guess its a toughie, anyone seen it for sale recently? BH Hi Blake Not easy on UK mate, should be £30-£40 ish I've had a couple on US Flying Dutchman 45 BUT they don't hang around much!!! 'Lady Day' is one of my very favourite records of all time. I could listen to it every day for the rest of my life and still never tire of it! Good luck in your search mate Steve
pikeys dog Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Cracking record that is dead easy to sell... Had U.S. issues and demos but never had a UK copy.
Guest Coxy Posted June 22, 2008 Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) I got a UK copy many moons ago for £3 off Mr Manship. Origanaly got in touch with him for the LP with it on and he told me he had a Flying Dutchman 45 which I said i would have but when it turned up it was the UK Phillips copy It`s not very often I get a result when record hunting but was very happy with this one. Trev Edited June 22, 2008 by Coxy
Guest Coxy Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Hi Blake, Dont know if it`s of any help (doubt it really as I reckon you only want the 45) but Soul Brother have a copy of the album at the moment. Trev
Guest nusha Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 The album is consistantly good throughout.Includes the original version of HOME IS WHERE THE HATRED IS...Highly recommended
Guest mel brat Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 Hi Blake, Me and Steve Croft (and I'm pretty sure Darran played it too). Very big record for several months. I reviewed it in BlackBeat at the time... and can remember one guy telling me I must be a 'Jazz Freak' Sean Well done those men! Maybe some entrepreneur on the Northern scene could have the motto "Variety Is The Spice of Life - Right On" embroidered onto souvenir patches - perhaps that way the sentiment might actually catch on...?!
Guest mel brat Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 The album is consistantly good throughout.Includes the original version of HOME IS WHERE THE HATRED IS...Highly recommended Love it, but Esther Phillips' version still makes my blood run cold. One of the most chilling and genuinely emotional recordings I've ever heard.
Steve Plumb Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Love it, but Esther Phillips' version still makes my blood run cold. One of the most chilling and genuinely emotional recordings I've ever heard. TOTALLY agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joesoap Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Hi, Apols for bringing this thread back from the grave but I think I saw on here that Manship sold a UK one recently for about £300 and a comment that suggested it's a different take, or something? I can't find that thread tho, sorry..Can anyone provide more detail? I do think the UK release is a rare record, Can't imagine who in the UK would have rushed out and bought it at the time or what market they were going for!. Can only see it having had an initial, cautious pressing. And I must have gone through at least, hundreds of thousands of soul records in London / UK record shops since the early 80s and the only copy I have ever seen is the one I've got. Catching up a bit now, maybe but I've always thought it odd how highly prized / priced UK rarities from the 60s are compared with similar items from only a few years later in the 70s. Brilliant record by the way. GSH at his best is the greatest in my book! Edited January 31, 2018 by JoeSoap
The Yank Posted January 31, 2018 Posted January 31, 2018 I don't think it was a different take- I believe Manship pointed out that the U.K. 45 had a different flip side ( "When You Are Who You Are" ) which he though was better than the U.S. 45 that has "Save The Children" as the B side.
Joesoap Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Ah, okay, thanks I see..Didn't know about different b-sides. It's more danceable than 'Save the Children' then, for sure, which makes it more collectable.
Kev John Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Did Lady Day get a re-issue on Philips ? I seem to remember
Dave Pinch Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Kev John said: Did Lady Day get a re-issue on Philips ? I seem to remember dont think so unless its just been done 1
Geeselad Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 On 28/06/2008 at 12:12, mel brat said: Love it, but Esther Phillips' version still makes my blood run cold. One of the most chilling and genuinely emotional recordings I've ever heard. esther's slaughters Gil's imho 1
Kev John Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) On 01/02/2018 at 15:06, dave pinch said: dont think so unless its just been done Thanks Dave for putting me straight Now i wonder if a look A Like will show up !! Edited May 18, 2018 by Kev John
Peter99 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) On 6/21/2008 at 14:38, Sean Hampsey said: Cleethorpes Monster! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMFN2e4wMnw Sean Hi Sean Hope all is well mate. That link doesn't work - which track are you referring to? Thanks Pete EDIT v Ar, this one - I remember that being played. Edited February 1, 2018 by Peter99 1
Codfromderby Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Peter99 said: Hi Sean Hope all is well mate. That link doesn't work - which track are you referring to? Thanks Pete EDIT v Ar, this one - I remember that being played. Thanks for uploading that one, new one to me, awesome ! 1
Peter99 Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, codfromderby said: Thanks for uploading that one, new one to me, awesome ! Evening mate. No problem. I was a very late comer to GSH - my loss, but I'm catching up now. Obviously, always knew about The Bottle, and the one above slightly less so but remember it being played. It is only in the last three years that I've started to get to grips with his "other" stuff - poet, rapper, writer, singer, performer, director - much of which was focused on black american rights and politics. A real genius, exceptionally cool, probably one of the most important contemporary artists going. And absolutely one of my top five artists now. God Bless Gil. Pete Edited February 1, 2018 by Peter99
Joesoap Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, geeselad said: esther's slaughters Gil's imho Aren't you thinking of 'Home Is Where The Hatred Is' though? Agree the Esther Philips version of that is outstanding (didn't it win a Grammy or Aretha, who won the Grammy, said Esther should have won it..?) But not sure it 'slaughters' GSH's version tho. They are both top drawer but different. And then there's Gil's live version - out of this fucking world for me, that! Edited February 1, 2018 by JoeSoap 1
Geeselad Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JoeSoap said: Aren't you thinking of 'Home Is Where The Hatred Is' though? Agree the Esther Philips version of that is outstanding (didn't it win a Grammy or Aretha, who won the Grammy, said Esther should have won it..?) But not sure it 'slaughters' GSH's version tho. They are both top drawer but different. And then there's Gil's live version - out of this fucking world for me, that! You're spot on youth. Tis hiwthi I'm talking about. I've loved Gil for years, and I saw him in the 90s when he played gillies rock world in Manchester. first time he didn't show and his band played alone, the midnight express were awesome. So I aoologise, a school boy error.the live version is wicked, not heard before, any idea what album it's on? Edited February 1, 2018 by geeselad
Joesoap Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 ;-) It's on, 'It's Your World'. Or there's an unofficial 12" , one of the 'Loft Classics' series from New York, of it that should be fairly easily obtainable. 1
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