Bazza Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Mark Ronson, Paul Weller, Amy Winehouse, oh dear Classics covered by..........why not use the originals,dont think ill bother,ta very much Bazza
StuH Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Isn't that a photo of Andy Holroyd? Is he in the film? LOL Stu
shute Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Just watched the youtube clips on the web site, www.thisisthesentinel.co.uk under entertainment (northern soul) Kings Hall clip is a waste of time as its far too dark to see anything !
Bazza Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Isn't that a photo of Andy Holroyd? Is he in the film? LOL Stu Does look like him dont it ? Bazza Edited June 14, 2008 by bazza
Crumb Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 Mark Ronson, Paul Weller, Amy Winehouse, oh dear I actually like these three, especially Weller, but doing Northern covers? No, I'll give that a miss. Besides, I don't think any of these are confirmed yet & with a bit of luck they won't touch this tacky little film with a barge pole.
Soul-slider Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) I actually like these three, especially Weller, but doing Northern covers? No, I'll give that a miss. Besides, I don't think any of these are confirmed yet & with a bit of luck they won't touch this tacky little film with a barge pole. If you read it, I think it actually means that these artists 'HAVE' copied the Northern Soul sounds. I know it say's they've done covers, but that's newspapers for you! Probably just giving an example to the 'great unwashed'. The people responsible seem to have a passion for the music and I'm pretty sure they'll be using proper Northern sounds. It sounds like it could be a good film (imo). Edited June 14, 2008 by Soul-Slider
Bazza Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 If you read it, I think it actually means that these artists 'HAVE' copied the Northern Soul sounds. I know it say's they've done covers, but that's newspapers for you! The guy responsible seems to have a passion for the music and I'm pretty sure they'll be using proper Northern sounds. It sounds like it could be a good film (imo). What do you mean copied, I dont get you ? reads, covered by Bazza
Soul-slider Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) What do you mean copied, I dont get you ? reads, covered by Bazza Well, you know, tried to create a 60's soul sound (I do stress 'tried' ). ...."features a pounding soundtrack of Northern Soul classics covered by artists LIKE ....." The way I read it is it's just giving an example of what the music is like (obviously that's open to debate!) and not featuring these artists. Edited June 14, 2008 by Soul-Slider
Jumpinjoan Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Why have I got the feeling that we've been here before From reading that article it sounds to me like the original music is going to be replaced with cover versions. Albeit this time it's Paul Weller as the lead singer instead of the Flying Pickets geezer. But hey ho, give it a chance, live and let live and all that!
Crumb Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 If you read it, I think it actually means that these artists 'HAVE' copied the Northern Soul sounds. I know it say's they've done covers, but that's newspapers for you! Probably just giving an example to the 'great unwashed'. The people responsible seem to have a passion for the music and I'm pretty sure they'll be using proper Northern sounds. It sounds like it could be a good film (imo). I hope you're right but I heard this mentioned on the radio as well and it said they hoped to get these artists (and others who I can't remember but I think Duffy was one) involved in the film so I assume that means just cover versions, not the original records.
Bazza Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Well, to me it is those great 60' early 70's soul tunes and R&B that made our scene what it is ( or was ), copies, covers, levine type made to measure stuff, just wont cut it ,it will be another farce,just my opinion of course, have been known to be wrong ,I can see why they picked Stoke though.. Bazza
Jumpinjoan Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 I hope you're right but I heard this mentioned on the radio as well and it said they hoped to get these artists (and others who I can't remember but I think Duffy was one) involved in the film so I assume that means just cover versions, not the original records. Yeah - but there's nothing wrong with that is there? It was ok when it was Once Upon a Time in Wigan.
Soul-slider Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 I hope you're right but I heard this mentioned on the radio as well and it said they hoped to get these artists (and others who I can't remember but I think Duffy was one) involved in the film so I assume that means just cover versions, not the original records. ....that'll cost the producers! Be cheaper, and far, far, far better to use an original & authentic soundtrack. Silly buggers!
Monique Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Mark Ronson, Paul Weller, Amy Winehouse, oh dearhttps://www.ipsofactofilms.com/films/souled_out.html It was supposed to be filmed at the University in Stafford last year.
Bazza Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Yeah - but there's nothing wrong with that is there? It was ok when it was Once Upon a Time in Wigan. oh dear. you sure joan Bazza
Crumb Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 Yeah - but there's nothing wrong with that is there? It was ok when it was Once Upon a Time in Wigan. Didn't see the original play, wish I had though, but the new musical version is just an abomination & I fear this film is going to be just as bad.
Jumpinjoan Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 oh dear. you sure joan BazzaRead the ONCE UPON A TIME IN WIGAN thread Bazza! Here's the link
Guest dundeedavie Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 surely by using these in vogue artists (i'll ignore weller) they are trying to appeal to the masses and not just the coupla hundred people who post on here . and it may encourage new blood which some of you claim to want in
ALFRETON SOUL CLUB Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Isn't that a photo of Andy Holroyd? Is he in the film? LOL Stu yep ,it's andy for sure ,thats a old pic taken at alfreton i think ,i know i used it on flyers for alfreton and a cd,also we had a birthday cake with that very pic on ,made for his 40th ,anyway top man is andy ,he and tracy are two of the nicest people you could ever meet
Jumpinjoan Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 surely by using these in vogue artists (i'll ignore weller) they are trying to appeal to the masses and not just the coupla hundred people who post on here . and it may encourage new blood which some of you claim to want in Yeah, it will be such fun when they go to an actual soul do and realise that the music is not by the trendy artists they know and love. Can't wait! I can see it now - loads of trendy young 'uns coming up and asking for Amy Winehouses version of Hit and Run PS: as with the Wigan thread - I am gobsmacked how anyone can think using anything other than the original music is in any way, shape or form acceptable.
Crumb Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 surely by using these in vogue artists (i'll ignore weller) they are trying to appeal to the masses and not just the coupla hundred people who post on here . and it may encourage new blood which some of you claim to want in I realise they need to appeal to a wider audiance than just us lot but Shane Meadows managed to make a pretty authentic film about the 80's skinhead scene that didn't just rely on a skinhead audiance so if he can do it so could these lot. If they did it right it would bring in more new blood than this pile of shite will.
Bazza Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 surely by using these in vogue artists (i'll ignore weller) they are trying to appeal to the masses and not just the coupla hundred people who post on here . and it may encourage new blood which some of you claim to want in I dont very often agree with your views Davie, , and I dont agree this time either, if its supposed to be about the "northern soul scene" what would be the point of portraying some wierd modern, scene that does not even exist,and calling it " northern soul " all very strange Bazza
Guest dundeedavie Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 PS: as with the Wigan thread - I am gobsmacked how anyone can think using anything other than the original music is in any way, shape or form acceptable. well you remain gobsmacked joan , like the wigan play thing i won't lose any sleep over such insignificances .... it's entertainment , nothing more and i would go and see it regardless
Guest dundeedavie Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 I dont very often agree with your views Davie, , and I dont agree this time either, if its supposed to be about the "northern soul scene" what would be the point of portraying some wierd modern, scene that does not even exist,and calling it " northern soul " all very strange Bazza . the question is , will you go and see it ?
moodysoul1 Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 Yeah, it will be such fun when they go to an actual soul do and realise that the music is not by the trendy artists they know and love. Can't wait! I can see it now - loads of trendy young 'uns coming up and asking for Amy Winehouses version of Hit and Run PS: as with the Wigan thread - I am gobsmacked how anyone can think using anything other than the original music is in any way, shape or form acceptable.
moodysoul1 Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 and the djs playing amy weller duffy to get them commin back
Crumb Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) . the question is , will you go and see it ? I'd watch it, but only on a bootleg dvd cuz I don't want to put any money in their pockets. If it ever gets made I hope it's a financial disaster Edited June 14, 2008 by CRUMB
Reg Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 To be honest I don't see what the fuss is about. In the case of Once Upon a time in Wigan, I can understand why Paul got cross about the Octagon ripping off his play because they tried to pass it off as a remake when really it was an entirely different watered down "musical" version of OUATIW. However in this case it's just somebody doing a film with its only aim as trying to get a few more people interested which can't be a bad thing really can it? And if these new people are really music fans (and not just pop pickers) they will realise that the original versions are of course superior to the cover versions.... and if they don't then they're not worth bothering about anyway are they?
Crumb Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 To be honest I don't see what the fuss is about. In the case of Once Upon a time in Wigan, I can understand why Paul got cross about the Octagon ripping off his play because they tried to pass it off as a remake when really it was an entirely different watered down "musical" version of OUATIW. However in this case it's just somebody doing a film with its only aim as trying to get a few more people interested which can't be a bad thing really can it? And if these new people are really music fans (and not just pop pickers) they will realise that the original versions are of course superior to the cover versions.... and if they don't then they're not worth bothering about anyway are they? As far as I know these people have never had any involvment in the northern scene & IMO their only aim is to make money, nowt wrong with that, unless they make us a laughing stock with the general public, which I fear they will. As I've said before, the original records are more likely to bring new blood onto the scene than using crap covers.
Reg Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 As far as I know these people have never had any involvment in the northern scene & IMO their only aim is to make money, nowt wrong with that, unless they make us a laughing stock with the general public, which I fear they will. As I've said before, the original records are more likely to bring new blood onto the scene than using crap covers. Why the paranoia? More likely it will sink without a trace or most of the general public won't even really notice the soundtrack or think anything at all. The soul scene is pretty insignificant in the wide scale of things I think! Anyway Coronation Street have been mentioning NS in a comedy style for a few years now and I still don't think more than 5% of the population have a clue what they're on about..
Guest dundeedavie Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 unless they make us a laughing stock with the general public i would've thought middle aged people in baggies pretty much covers that
Reg Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 i would've thought middle aged people in baggies pretty much covers that Oooh Davie...don't mention the "b" word....
Mach Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 its all been tried before and nothings ever come close to replicating the casino,wish they,d let sleeping dogs lie before they scramble the memories, with there inevitable own interpretation of events..that are nearly always irrelevent to what it was truly like.
Guest shrinkwrap Posted June 14, 2008 Posted June 14, 2008 A film about Northern Soul without any Northern Soul in it. That makes sense...about as much sense as making a film about Chuchll without mentioning the war.
Nige Brown Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 I was just eating my lunch watching the news on BBC 1, and they annouced that theres gonna be a Major film all about the Northern Soul scene!!# The flm is set in the 70's aroubd the time of Wigan Casino and apparently filming starts in August and the Kings Hall in Stoke is going to be used as "Wigan Casino" for the indoor filming!! Theres a lot of people who i know will yawn and slag this off , but it will be intesting to see jusy how right they get it!! I went to see the Original play of Paul Sadots "Once Upon a Time " i saw it in Greenwich, which was in my opinion a fantastic attempt to re- create the Scene as it was back then, it so reminded me of meself and Shawy taking him to his first night at Wigan, brought a tear to me eye it did!! So if they det it right like the play did should be really intesting!! Be a right laugh if they have actors playing the original Wigan DJs!! Russ Winsanly --- Timothy Spall ?? Richard Sealing --- Donald Pleasence ?? Kev Roberts --- Chrisopher Lee ???? The possibilities are endless !! Discuss !! ?? Torchboy
Simsy Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Hmm don't want to be a prophet of doom, but I'm predicting misrepresentation and major gaps as has always been the case when our underground scence has had the spotlight shone on it, usually by know nothings.
shute Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 https://www.soul-source.co.uk/Norther...ilm-t74730.html As discussed in above thread Nige Russ Winsanly --- Timothy Spall ?? Richard Sealing --- Donald Pleasence ?? Kev Roberts --- Chrisopher Lee ???? so funny
Winnie :-) Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 I was just eating my lunch watching the news on BBC 1, and they annouced that theres gonna be a Major film all about the Northern Soul scene!!# The flm is set in the 70's aroubd the time of Wigan Casino and apparently filming starts in August and the Kings Hall in Stoke is going to be used as "Wigan Casino" for the indoor filming!! Theres a lot of people who i know will yawn and slag this off , but it will be intesting to see jusy how right they get it!! I went to see the Original play of Paul Sadots "Once Upon a Time " i saw it in Greenwich, which was in my opinion a fantastic attempt to re- create the Scene as it was back then, it so reminded me of meself and Shawy taking him to his first night at Wigan, brought a tear to me eye it did!! So if they det it right like the play did should be really intesting!! Be a right laugh if they have actors playing the original Wigan DJs!! Russ Winsanly --- Timothy Spall ?? Richard Sealing --- Donald Pleasence ?? Kev Roberts --- Chrisopher Lee ???? The possibilities are endless !! Discuss !! ?? Torchboy =============== Donald's gone Nige. Vin Deisel for Searling?
Winnie :-) Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Hmm don't want to be a prophet of doom, but I'm predicting misrepresentation and major gaps as has always been the case when our underground scence has had the spotlight shone on it, usually by know nothings. ============ More to the point, who would it be aimed at? Would have to have plenty of sex and drugs to impact on the masses, can't seeing it being a sucess without........
Spacehopper Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 loads of youngsters who arent mods like quadrophenia so if done right could be good for the scene...i think it should be done,just like the mods and rockers of the 60s the northern scene of the 70s was a big part of british teenage history....if you grew up in the 70s you knew of northern soul wherever you lived and if you were into it or not....always thought the book "cracking up" would make a good film... lets just hope they get the soundtrack right.....but whatever they do people will still find fault....just like all the gp's and px's in quodrophenia !!
Wiganer1 Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 loads of youngsters who arent mods like quadrophenia so if done right could be good for the scene...i think it should be done,just like the mods and rockers of the 60s the northern scene of the 70s was a big part of british teenage history....if you grew up in the 70s you knew of northern soul wherever you lived and if you were into it or not....always thought the book "cracking up" would make a good film... lets just hope they get the soundtrack right.....but whatever they do people will still find fault....just like all the gp's and px's in quodrophenia !! ------------- just think Mods 2008 version of Green Onions!! found out at the weekend that Mods 79 (casino classics )was Shakattack
Winnie :-) Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Hope they get the colour of the drugs right--- ============== Might spark some interest if they did the film in black and white, would work for me
Quinvy Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 They must get an advisor who actually lived through it, and then actually listen to that person.....and after the fantastic job he did with the original play, my money is on Paul Sadot.... Phil.
Guest Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) I was just eating my lunch watching the news on BBC 1, and they annouced that theres gonna be a Major film all about the Northern Soul scene!!# The flm is set in the 70's aroubd the time of Wigan Casino and apparently filming starts in August and the Kings Hall in Stoke is going to be used as "Wigan Casino" for the indoor filming!! Theres a lot of people who i know will yawn and slag this off , but it will be intesting to see jusy how right they get it!! I went to see the Original play of Paul Sadots "Once Upon a Time " i saw it in Greenwich, which was in my opinion a fantastic attempt to re- create the Scene as it was back then, it so reminded me of meself and Shawy taking him to his first night at Wigan, brought a tear to me eye it did!! So if they det it right like the play did should be really intesting!! Be a right laugh if they have actors playing the original Wigan DJs!! Russ Winsanly --- Timothy Spall ?? Richard Sealing --- Donald Pleasence ?? Kev Roberts --- Chrisopher Lee ???? The possibilities are endless !! Discuss !! ?? Torchboy At the start of the Casino , Richard was fresh faced and had hair - so they need to go with someone like Ewan McGregor ......... In respect of the later years ( when Richard started to lose the barnet ) , and with Donald Pleasance shuffling off this mortal coil several years ago , they would have to look to another actor ........ How about Richard - " Right Said Fred " Fairbrass ? ......... Anyway , never mind t'DJs - I would like to propose Sue " Audrey Roberts " Nicholls to play Hilda Woods ....... Malc Burton Edited June 17, 2008 by Malc Burton
Pauldonnelly Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 At the start of the Casino , Richard was fresh faced and had hair - so they need to go with someone like Ewan McGregor ......... In respect of the later years ( when Richard started to lose the barnet ) , and with Donald Pleasance shuffling off this mortal coil several years ago , they would have to look to another actor ........ How about Richard - " Right Said Fred " Fairbrass ? ......... Anyway , never mind t'DJs - I would like to propose Sue " Audrey Roberts " Nicholls to play Hilda Woods ....... Malc Burton Tom Cruise could play Martyn Ellis John Vincent Pep Colin Curtis
Guest in town Mikey Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 I agree if Paul S got involved and he had some editorial clout, then it could be quite good. I watched 24 hour party people. Having visited the Hacienda many times on Student night when up there, I thought the makers did a jaw droppingly good job of recreating the Hacienda (Even down to the position of the door to the gents). So it can be done. But if it is done it will have to, because pound to a penny it will be analysed and ripped to shreds on here if they set it in 75 say and play something like Cant Get Over These Memories. etc.
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