Harry Crosby Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) WOW!!!! item number 200230376374 @ $9.99 [ BECAUSE OF MY HEART] Edited June 11, 2008 by HARRY CROSBY
Ted Massey Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 WOW!!!! item number 200230376374 @ $9.99 [ BECAUSE OF MY HEART] wont be at that for long
Steve G Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 WOW!!!! item number 200230376374 @ $9.99 [ BECAUSE OF MY HEART] Will probably end up going for some OTT price. Don't think it's really that rare at all. Now if it was a Rouser copy
Harry Crosby Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 wont be at that for long No cos i`m putting $10 on it
Harry Crosby Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Will probably end up going for some OTT price. Don't think it's really that rare at all. Now if it was a Rouser copy We can but dream, i suppose
Philippe Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 (edited) It's now $39.00 and reserve not met : Frankie Beverly Edited June 12, 2008 by Philippe
Ted Massey Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 (edited) Rouser the second issue aint it and it stryene and cracked i think Edited June 12, 2008 by Tedsoul
Sebastian Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Rouser the second issue aint it and it stryene and cracked i think According to some people (John Manship for example), the Rouser issue is indeed the second issue. I have no idea personally. The Rouser release I once held in my hand was pressed on vinyl, not styrene, and so is this copy:
Jerry Hipkiss Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 According to some people (John Manship for example), the Rouser issue is indeed the second issue. I have no idea personally. Surely must be the second issue, as it has the Fairmount catalogue number...I wondered if it was done to get interest in a different area of the States, but Fairmount had national distribution didn't it? I've asked about this topic several times, still to get a definitive answer!
Sebastian Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Surely must be the second issue, as it has the Fairmount catalogue number...I wondered if it was done to get interest in a different area of the States, but Fairmount had national distribution didn't it? I've asked about this topic several times, still to get a definitive answer! There was some discussion about it on this thread about a year ago: https://www.soul-source.co.uk/Rare-45...671#entry513671
Guest Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 (edited) Surely must be the second issue, as it has the Fairmount catalogue number...I wondered if it was done to get interest in a different area of the States, but Fairmount had national distribution didn't it? I've asked about this topic several times, still to get a definitive answer! It's pretty simple really, the Rouser press is a different take, most likely earlier in the session, than the one Fairmount issued. The Rouser copy carries the Fairmount masterplate numbers in the deadwax ie 1017 etc, it's just a take Fairmount decided not to go with. And it got used in Washington and pressed on Rouser. I personally like the Fairmount take better, some prefer the Rouser take. But the Rouser copy certainly isn't before Fairmount, unless the guy who pressed it had a very fast car.... Edited June 12, 2008 by john manship
Jerry Hipkiss Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 It's pretty simple really, the Rouser press is a different take, most likely earlier in the session, than the one Fairmount issued. The Rouser copy carries the Fairmount masterplate numbers in the deadwax ie 1017 etc, it's just a take Fairmount decided not to go with. And it got used in Washington and pressed on Rouser. I personally like the Fairmount take better, some prefer the Rouser take. But the Rouser copy certainly isn't before Fairmount, unless the guy who pressed it had a very fast car.... Thank you sir, much appreciated...just been pointed in the direction of a similar reply you put on an earlier thread. I must pay more attention - or stop doing this while I'm supposed to be doing a radio show!
macca Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I note that fairmount was a CP subsidiary. what kind of material, on the whole, did this label feature? I've got big dee irwin 'you really are together' on a fairmount DJ, a nice tune in my opinion. was its output more r&b orientated than CP? I wasn't that keen on 'because of my heart' back in the day, but when Sam played it at last year's (or was it you Steve?) S.O.U.L. in Luanco, it sounded great. Weird how our perception of sounds changes, eh? M
Sebastian Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I note that fairmount was a CP subsidiary. what kind of material, on the whole, did this label feature? was its output more r&b orientated than CP? Yes, definitely more r&b/soul orientated. Here' a discography taken from the SoulfulKindaMusic site: FAIRMOUNT 610 - The Taffys - Key To My Heart / Everybody South Street 611 - The Tempos - Oh Play That Thing / Monkey Do 612 - The Dreamers - Daydreamin' Of You / The Promise 613 - Frankie Brunson - Boys Have Feelings Too / Move Baby Move 614 - Guy Maurice - Don't Look For Me / You've Got To Move 1001 - Tari Stevens - False Alarm / A Bad Boy 1002 - Lonnie Youngblood - Gogo Shoes / Gogo Place 1003 - Irma And The Larks - Don't You Cry / Without You Baby 1004 - Dee Dee Sharp - (It's Wonderful) The Love I Feel For You / Willyam, Willyam 1005 - Big Dee Irwin - A Sweet Young Thing Like You / You Really Are Together 1006 - Sonny Richards Panic - Rock With Me Baby / I Got Love 1007 - Billy Leonard - Tell Me Do You Love Me / Tears Of Love 1008 - Jo Ann King - Let Them Love And Be Loved / Don't Play With Fire 1009 - Eddie Jones - Let's Stop Fooling Ourselves / Give Me Good Lovin' 1010 - Shirley Vaughn - Climb Every Mountain / You Don't Know 1011 - Oscar Wright - Leave Me Alone / Fell In Love 1012 - Frankie Beverley - She Kissed Me / Don't Cry Little Sad Boy 1013 - Ray Lewis - Getting Over You / Give My Love A Try 1014 - King Coleman - Freedom(Vocal) / Freedom(Inst.) 1015 - ? 1016 - Lonnie Youngblood - The Grass(Will Always Sing For You) / Wooly Bully 1017 - Frankie Beverley - Because Of My Heart / I Want To Feel I'm Wanted 1018 - Gene Waiters - Shake And Shingaling Part 1 / Part 2 1019 - Daddy Rae & Yvonne - Eleven Commandments Of Woman / Shug ? 1020 - ? 1021 - Damon Fox - Boney Moronie / Packing Up 1022 - Lonnie Youngblood - Soul Food / Goodbye Bessie Mae 1023 - Shirley Vaughn - Stop And Listen / Doesn't Everybody 1024 - Bonnie & Lee - I Need Ya / The Way I Feel About You The original listing can be found here: https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/fairmount.htm
Dave Pinch Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 and how many other fairmount releases came out on rouser dave
Winsford Soul Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 It's now $39.00 and reserve not met : Frankie Beverly $1,525 Latest bid. Anyone like to guess what it will end up going for Steve
Dave Pinch Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) fairmount stock copy much rarer though........... anybody taken much notice coz the lables look the same dave Edited June 15, 2008 by dave pinch
Soul Shrews Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Don't want to create an international incident here here but according to the "Soul Harmony Singles" book the Rouser release came out in 66 and the Fairmount one in 67 Cheers Paul
vaultofsouler Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) $2,225.00 RESERVE NOT MET Noticed that myself Harry.... be interesting to know what the "reserve" is or if it gets reached .... Edited June 15, 2008 by vaultofsouler
bri pinch Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT ROUSER WAS THE SURNAME OF THE GUY WHO OWNED THE LABLE, FRANKIE HAD A PREVIOUS 45 ON FAIRMOUNT (SHE KISSED ME F-1O12) WHY ISN'T THIS ON ROUSER DEFFO 2ND RELEASE IT SHOULDNT BE CLASSED NO MORE THAN A BOOTLEG.........REALLY, I'LL STICK WITH ME FAIRMOUNT ISSUE . BRI PINCH.
Quinvy Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I have put a warning up about this seller before on here. I'm pretty sure that this 45 along with the De-lites - Lover - Cuppy...and in fact most of his ebay items, are re-listed....he puts huge reserves on, and when they don't sell, he re-lists them....like all the other sellers on ebay...everything is wonderfull until you ask for a refund on a badly graded record.....you will not get a refund from this guy.....and he grades his records in a dark room, whilst wearing a blindfold..... Phil.
Trev Thomas Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT ROUSER WAS THE SURNAME OF THE GUY WHO OWNED THE LABLE, FRANKIE HAD A PREVIOUS 45 ON FAIRMOUNT (SHE KISSED ME F-1O12) WHY ISN'T THIS ON ROUSER DEFFO 2ND RELEASE IT SHOULDNT BE CLASSED NO MORE THAN A BOOTLEG.........REALLY, I'LL STICK WITH ME FAIRMOUNT ISSUE . BRI PINCH. hi brian...is that the one you got off me in the signal box
Dave Pinch Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 hi brian...is that the one you got off me in the signal box thats the baby trev dave
boba Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I have put a warning up about this seller before on here. I'm pretty sure that this 45 along with the De-lites - Lover - Cuppy...and in fact most of his ebay items, are re-listed....he puts huge reserves on, and when they don't sell, he re-lists them....like all the other sellers on ebay...everything is wonderfull until you ask for a refund on a badly graded record.....you will not get a refund from this guy.....and he grades his records in a dark room, whilst wearing a blindfold..... Phil. Hi Phil. This isn't the same seller (or at least the same user id on ebay) as you're referring to, the delites guy is that red-top guy. This guy's ID is doowopdepot. They are both in Philly though. Are you sure they're the same person?
Dave Thorley Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Hi Phil. This isn't the same seller (or at least the same user id on ebay) as you're referring to, the delites guy is that red-top guy. This guy's ID is doowopdepot. They are both in Philly though. Are you sure they're the same person? Red Top has one as well. 'You wait all day for a bus, then two come along at once'
Quinvy Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 My appologies to the other seller..I was refering to the red-top bloke... Phil.
Soul Shrews Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Has anyone tried getting the story from Frank Beverly himself? Now theres a good idea Andy K Cheers Paul
Hakenig Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Now theres a good idea Andy K Cheers Paul I know a guy who went to high school with Frank, it's a long shot but I'll see if he's somehow able to get in touch with the man!
boba Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I know a guy who went to high school with Frank, it's a long shot but I'll see if he's somehow able to get in touch with the man! I always wondered if Frankie Beverly knew about or cared about the popularity of his early recordings with the rare soul collectors / northern soul scene. Most people I've talked to like him who had much bigger hits later and who still are successful due to their later hits don't think much about their early material. My friend saw maze last weekend and said they were great -- has Frankie Beverly ever done a northern thing in the UK?
Jim G Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I know a guy who went to high school with Frank, it's a long shot but I'll see if he's somehow able to get in touch with the man! old pal of mine interviewed him for BBC Radio Nottingam at the hieght of Maze's popularity and Frankie couldn't even remember recording 'If Thats What You wanted' etc.
Hakenig Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Having read what boba & Jim said about him not remembering his early stuff, it will probably be no use even if I can get hold of Frank, but I'll try to see about it just in case.....
Jim G Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 (edited) There is another onr sale Item Number 150258276628 (the one in the record sleeve picture dbelow) $2200 dollars at the moment and finishes on 19th have some been found? They both look the similar the differnce is the stickers are on the label is a differnt position. The second picture is the one that finished yesterday. Edited June 16, 2008 by jim g
spot Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 I put a watch on one of them, not sure which one but at the end it was bid up to$2500+ & not sold as reserve not met. Anyway it's not as good as "If that's what you wanted" & an appauling dancer IMO. Spot.
SteveM Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 old pal of mine interviewed him for BBC Radio Nottingam at the hieght of Maze's popularity and Frankie couldn't even remember recording 'If Thats What You wanted' etc. He re did "Wnat To Feel I'm Wanted" for a Maze album of course, and obviously "While I'm Alone"
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