Gene-r Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 So - who was the lucky person who won this? Can't believe the seller didn't know this! https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=001 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I know the seller, Dave Gilman, I'm amazed he didn't know it. Wish I'd have seen it... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest hudsoul Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 is it just my ears,,or the auction player,,,but does it sound slightly different to the released version,,,?????a more prominent piano perhaps?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Jones Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Deffo a different take....piano more prominent as you say..vocals slightly different too ...wish I'd seen it too! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 brilliant tune Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harrogatesoul Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 I'd say it was a mother of a clanger considering he got the title right (almost) has BSC scratched in the run out - Is called Soul Auction.com and has nearly 3k feedback. Rich Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Anoraks Corner Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Deffo a different take....piano more prominent as you say..vocals slightly different too No 'telephone-ringing' sound effect in the background, either. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NEV Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 So - who was the lucky person who won this? Can't believe the seller didn't know this! https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=001 Particularly like the Question at the bottom of the page Hands up how many people have tried that little trick Think your supposed to contact the member personally , not blatantly put it where everyone can see Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-r Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 Think your supposed to contact the member personally , not blatantly put it where everyone can see The seller would have been contacted personally, and displayed the question on his ad by choice. I've 'named and shamed' people who ask me silly questions about sale items - they don't come back! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Think TIM ASHIBENDE had one of these many years ago? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 So what do we think this test pressing - which is obviously a previously unissued version - is actually worth? Must be a one off? Two off? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Trevski Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Sounds very different to my ears, more laid back, slightly jazzier delivery. Nice! Wish I'd seen it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 So what do we think this test pressing - which is obviously a previously unissued version - is actually worth? Must be a one off? Two off? Didn`t mr manship have one on auction recently? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Didn`t mr manship have one on auction recently? dunno - i never knew it even existed til yesterday Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Sounds very different to my ears, more laid back, slightly jazzier delivery. Nice! Wish I'd seen it! yes!!!!very good version,thinking the same Trevski.Must spend more time on the bay sooner than on here with the rabble . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Hi everybody, i am the one who actually won this ebay auction. However, given what the seller wrote to me, it's very unlikely I will ever get this record. What do you guys think?? Reliable?? "I am writing to you as several records of mine have been broken in a accident and damaged which has caused me no end of grief as some were prized 45's of mine, so therefor i am sorry to say this was one which was damaged, luckily i saved a sound file mp3 track of it , so i offer my apolgy for this , but u will see i am a honest dealer with 10 years experience and 100% positive care for cutomers , accept my apology, Dave G soul-auctions.com UK " to which I replied that I didn't believe his explanation and that I was thinking he might have got a very good offer this was his last reply "Hello, What i am actually telling you is the record was broken along with several other ones which cost me a considerable amount of money and i am not happy myself,iv'e never had a problem with any 45's i sell as you;ll see, but this has cost me money myself as iv;e lost them,i am sorry but other than what i have done , its irreplaceable to me as well, as for offers NO look at my history i have been on EBAY Near 10 years and neverhad any problems with what i sell, and indeed i have many more i will sell, my deepest apology but what am i supposed to do ???,A accident if you want to know the dog actually knocked my box off the coffee table, am i sick YES!!! thanking you, Dave G UK" True or not, I will not get the bargain of the year Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Didn`t mr manship have one on auction recently? HE SURE DID HARRY, TIM ASHEBENDE HAD A FEW OF THESE TEST PRESSINGS IN THE MID 90'S, HE WAS SELLING BLACK STOCK COPIES FOR AROUND £50 & TEST PRESSINGS WERE £150, THINK THE ONE MR MANSHIP AUCTIONED WAS AUTOGRAPHED Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jason S Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Hi everybody, i am the one who actually won this ebay auction. However, given what the seller wrote to me, it's very unlikely I will ever get this record. What do you guys think?? Reliable?? "I am writing to you as several records of mine have been broken in a accident and damaged which has caused me no end of grief as some were prized 45's of mine, so therefor i am sorry to say this was one which was damaged, luckily i saved a sound file mp3 track of it , so i offer my apolgy for this , but u will see i am a honest dealer with 10 years experience and 100% positive care for cutomers , accept my apology, Dave G soul-auctions.com UK " to which I replied that I didn't believe his explanation and that I was thinking he might have got a very good offer this was his last reply "Hello, What i am actually telling you is the record was broken along with several other ones which cost me a considerable amount of money and i am not happy myself,iv'e never had a problem with any 45's i sell as you;ll see, but this has cost me money myself as iv;e lost them,i am sorry but other than what i have done , its irreplaceable to me as well, as for offers NO look at my history i have been on EBAY Near 10 years and neverhad any problems with what i sell, and indeed i have many more i will sell, my deepest apology but what am i supposed to do ???,A accident if you want to know the dog actually knocked my box off the coffee table, am i sick YES!!! thanking you, Dave G UK" True or not, I will not get the bargain of the year That sounds like complete crap. Funny isn't it, your bargain gets flagged to buggery and lo and behold the record just happens to be magically 'broken' by a dog knocking a box of records off a coffee table (how many times have bargains been hyped up then ended up being sat on, dropped, mauled by a dog or eaten by a child)...must be a very tall coffee table! Before I finished reading this thread I just said to a mate 'bet after all this the buyer gets welched on'...and f*ck me, carried on to the end and you have been! Unless of course it really did happen (seems too coincidental though) Why not just ask the guy to send the two broken pieces seeing as you've rightfully won it...at least you can still have a rarity, if only to put on your wall or something. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) That sounds like complete crap. Funny isn't it, your bargain gets flagged to buggery and lo and behold the record just happens to be magically 'broken' by a dog knocking a box of records off a coffee table (how many times have bargains been hyped up then ended up being sat on, dropped, mauled by a dog or eaten by a child)...must be a very tall coffee table! Before I finished reading this thread I just said to a mate 'bet after all this the buyer gets welched on'...and f*ck me, carried on to the end and you have been! Unless of course it really did happen (seems too coincidental though) Why not just ask the guy to send the two broken pieces seeing as you've rightfully won it...at least you can still have a rarity, if only to put on your wall or something. mumble mumble (reading your post made me suspicious towards the seller again ), I've asked the dealer to provide me with a scan/picture of the actual damaged record. might be a little easier (and cheaper) than getting the actual broken (?) record. wait and see g Edited June 9, 2008 by soulfuljules Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) Hi everybody, i am the one who actually won this ebay auction. However, given what the seller wrote to me, it's very unlikely I will ever get this record. What do you guys think?? Reliable?? "I am writing to you as several records of mine have been broken in a accident and damaged which has caused me no end of grief as some were prized 45's of mine, so therefor i am sorry to say this was one which was damaged, luckily i saved a sound file mp3 track of it , so i offer my apolgy for this , but u will see i am a honest dealer with 10 years experience and 100% positive care for cutomers , accept my apology, Dave G soul-auctions.com UK " to which I replied that I didn't believe his explanation and that I was thinking he might have got a very good offer this was his last reply "Hello, What i am actually telling you is the record was broken along with several other ones which cost me a considerable amount of money and i am not happy myself,iv'e never had a problem with any 45's i sell as you;ll see, but this has cost me money myself as iv;e lost them,i am sorry but other than what i have done , its irreplaceable to me as well, as for offers NO look at my history i have been on EBAY Near 10 years and neverhad any problems with what i sell, and indeed i have many more i will sell, my deepest apology but what am i supposed to do ???,A accident if you want to know the dog actually knocked my box off the coffee table, am i sick YES!!! thanking you, Dave G UK" True or not, I will not get the bargain of the year Cant he still send as proof then you return cause surely if knackered it wont matter.he will keep his good reputation then. Edited June 9, 2008 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Cant he still send as proof then you return cause surely if knackered it wont matter.he will keep his good reputation then. I BET SOME BUGGER ON HERE HAS SEEN THIS THREAD & CONTACTED THE SELLER & MADE HIM AN OFFER HE CANT REFUSE...... AND BEFORE YOU ASK, NO, IT WASNT ME Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I BET SOME BUGGER ON HERE HAS SEEN THIS THREAD & CONTACTED THE SELLER & MADE HIM AN OFFER HE CANT REFUSE...... AND BEFORE YOU ASK, NO, IT WASNT ME I would be going ape,least he could do dont you think? i mean if it was me and i had a decent reputation! go to court Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jim G Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Surely he can emial a picture of it (and the others) to prove it and secure his reputation? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 how many times have bargains been hyped up then ended up being sat on, dropped, mauled by a dog or eaten by a child I remember getting a record, opening the package and leaving it on the coffee table. My daughter who was then maybe 1 year old picked it up and ran around with it in her mouth. I wish I'd got it now, it has a perfect set of her teeth prints on it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Hi everybody, i am the one who actually won this ebay auction. However, given what the seller wrote to me, it's very unlikely I will ever get this record. What do you guys think?? Reliable?? "I am writing to you as several records of mine have been broken in a accident and damaged which has caused me no end of grief as some were prized 45's of mine, so therefor i am sorry to say this was one which was damaged, luckily i saved a sound file mp3 track of it , so i offer my apolgy for this , but u will see i am a honest dealer with 10 years experience and 100% positive care for cutomers , accept my apology, Dave G soul-auctions.com UK " to which I replied that I didn't believe his explanation and that I was thinking he might have got a very good offer this was his last reply "Hello, What i am actually telling you is the record was broken along with several other ones which cost me a considerable amount of money and i am not happy myself,iv'e never had a problem with any 45's i sell as you;ll see, but this has cost me money myself as iv;e lost them,i am sorry but other than what i have done , its irreplaceable to me as well, as for offers NO look at my history i have been on EBAY Near 10 years and neverhad any problems with what i sell, and indeed i have many more i will sell, my deepest apology but what am i supposed to do ???,A accident if you want to know the dog actually knocked my box off the coffee table, am i sick YES!!! thanking you, Dave G UK" True or not, I will not get the bargain of the year what a crock of s**t. you have been shafted. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Surely he can emial a picture of it (and the others) to prove it and secure his reputation? I agree and file a dispute with e-bay if he won't provide proof of the damage. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I agree and file a dispute with e-bay if he won't provide proof of the damage. my friend recently sold the jades on mode on ebay, he cracked it in half when packing it. he refunded the guy's money and sent the record anyways. an honest seller would send you the cracked record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 still have not received any reply from the seller i`ll wait for his reply/pictures and act accordingly. it is very strange (to say the least) that this accident happened only after this thread appeared on soul source g Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 If the records not cracked,and gone to some other buyer,its gonna be pretty hard for that person to play it out,what with all the neck craning etc?. Maybe its just going to be buried in a collection for a couple of years. . HOPE YOU GET THIS SORTED! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest moggy Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I was cleaning a £15 choon prior to packing it when I heard it click, after a CSI type look at the vinyl I detected a barely visible 3mm hairline crack at the outer edge, it did nothing to affect the play and honestly the buyer would never have seen it I sent him the record, with a full refund, and another record to the equivilent value And I still felt bad about it I didn"t want the buyer thinking I had pulled a fast one selling him a defected record and explained this in a letter I had written Fair play to him, he sent me the money back and was more than happy with the two choons. There are some good sellers out there as well. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Hi everybody, i am the one who actually won this ebay auction. However, given what the seller wrote to me, it's very unlikely I will ever get this record. What do you guys think?? Reliable?? "I am writing to you as several records of mine have been broken in a accident and damaged which has caused me no end of grief as some were prized 45's of mine, so therefor i am sorry to say this was one which was damaged, luckily i saved a sound file mp3 track of it , so i offer my apolgy for this , but u will see i am a honest dealer with 10 years experience and 100% positive care for cutomers , accept my apology, Dave G soul-auctions.com UK " to which I replied that I didn't believe his explanation and that I was thinking he might have got a very good offer this was his last reply "Hello, What i am actually telling you is the record was broken along with several other ones which cost me a considerable amount of money and i am not happy myself,iv'e never had a problem with any 45's i sell as you;ll see, but this has cost me money myself as iv;e lost them,i am sorry but other than what i have done , its irreplaceable to me as well, as for offers NO look at my history i have been on EBAY Near 10 years and neverhad any problems with what i sell, and indeed i have many more i will sell, my deepest apology but what am i supposed to do ???,A accident if you want to know the dog actually knocked my box off the coffee table, am i sick YES!!! thanking you, Dave G UK" True or not, I will not get the bargain of the year tell him to send you the broken copy you will see if it can be repaired and will pay him the value of it as a broken record. mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 my friend recently sold the jades on mode on ebay, he cracked it in half when packing it. he refunded the guy's money and sent the record anyways. an honest seller would send you the cracked record. I know there are some on here who don't like e-bay sales discussed and things like this don't help, that is if the seller has seen the topic and realised what he was selling of course. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I know there are some on here who don't like e-bay sales discussed and things like this don't help, that is if the seller has seen the topic and realised what he was selling of course. dont think could put such a "no discuss" policy into effect, and not really convinced off the benefits as could argue that highlighting similar issues to this could/does have some positive effects but would say that discussion is for another thread have had similar occurances and myself would ask for photos of all the broken recs at very least given the circumstance would have thought any seller be more than happy to supply to clear up any possible misunderstandings Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I know there are some on here who don't like e-bay sales discussed and things like this don't help, that is if the seller has seen the topic and realised what he was selling of course. Help what Chalky ?,who is it then!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-r Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) I know there are some on here who don't like e-bay sales discussed and things like this don't help, that is if the seller has seen the topic and realised what he was selling of course. I made sure not to start the thread until well after the auction had closed. On the same note Jules, believe me I'd feel really awful if he acted as a result of this thread, and would only really have myself to blame. Edited June 9, 2008 by Gene-R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I made sure not to start the thread until well after the auction had closed. On the same note Jules, believe me I'd feel really awful if he acted as a result of this thread, and would only really have myself to blame. It's not your fault Gene, this part of the site is for discussing records and this was an interesting one to discuss, a very interesting one. I sympathise with the buyer, but also the seller in a strange way, I know what it's like to sell a very expensive record for next to nothing then someone else comes along and offers loads more than what I just sold it for - in fact it happend on here last week, that Clicky whatsit 45 I was selling, I took an offer then immediately got offered £200 on top of that - by two separate people - despite me announcing that it was sold. I'd already agreed a sale so it went for the original price to the original buyer - however, if it had been MY record and not someone else's - and my financial situation was as bad as it usually is - then who knows, I might have had to say look, I can't turn down this extra £200 quid I've just been offered. I've also been usurped on records I'd been promised, by some very well known names. It just gets written in the black book and I don't deal with them again. At the end of the day, money talks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I know there are some on here who don't like e-bay sales discussed and things like this don't help, that is if the seller has seen the topic and realised what he was selling of course. I don't see why my message doesn't help. What doesn't help is how people viciously attack certain people with little evidence. Suggesting that the honest thing to do is to send the cracked record is not an attack on the seller -- if the seller took the advice, it would prove their honesty. If they didn't, it would probably prove their dishonesty. Maybe neither side considered this. I don't know any of the parties involved and I was not directly commenting on either of them. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I don't see why my message doesn't help. What doesn't help is how people viciously attack certain people with little evidence. Suggesting that the honest thing to do is to send the cracked record is not an attack on the seller -- if the seller took the advice, it would prove their honesty. If they didn't, it would probably prove their dishonesty. Maybe neither side considered this. I don't know any of the parties involved and I was not directly commenting on either of them. I wasn't referring to yours or anyone else's message just the fact some do not like ebay auctions being discussed....at least that is until they have the record in their hands if they are bidding etc. I agree with what you said, said as much myself and I also agree with what Mike said. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 i won a 45 off this dealer 2weeks ago. got my 45 no problem. he seemed a genuine guy,very friendly in his emails. a photo of the broken 45 would be the best thing to do. he told me to look out for other sales he was putting up on bay,i forgot to look,or i mite of seen b/lloyd. also said was thinking of puting up his 19 shrine record for sale,as he cant get the other copys to finish the collection. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 i won a 45 off this dealer 2weeks ago. got my 45 no problem. he seemed a genuine guy,very friendly in his emails. a photo of the broken 45 would be the best thing to do. he told me to look out for other sales he was putting up on bay,i forgot to look,or i mite of seen b/lloyd. also said was thinking of puting up his 19 shrine record for sale,as he cant get the other copys to finish the collection. Bloody hell 19 i only managed to get 13 unlucky for some only got 6 now Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Bloody hell 19 i only managed to get 13 unlucky for some only got 6 now maybe the 6 you have is the 6 he needs,lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 maybe the 6 you have is the 6 he needs,lol i cant remember how many there are dont think there's many more than 20 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 soooooooo, in the end i got a coupla pics from the seller clearly showing that the record is cracked. if somebody tells me how to attach a pic i'll post them up now i feel triple sorry: 1)for not getting the record 2)for causing all this fuss when the seller was right and in good faith in the first place (and i've apologised to him) 3)for watching italy losing so badly against the netherlands thanx for all pms and sympathising comments, but the guy was right. on such occasions the track "suspicion" springs to mind... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tommaso Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 soooooooo, in the end i got a coupla pics from the seller clearly showing that the record is cracked. if somebody tells me how to attach a pic i'll post them up now i feel triple sorry: 1)for not getting the record 2)for causing all this fuss when the seller was right and in good faith in the first place (and i've apologised to him) 3)for watching italy losing so badly against the netherlands thanx for all pms and sympathising comments, but the guy was right. on such occasions the track "suspicion" springs to mind... He broke the record when you asked the pics.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulfuljules Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 He broke the record when you asked the pics.. he also posted a pic with other broken recs. apparently he didn't know what tune it was and asked me if i knew it... now, if that was my dog Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Trev Thomas Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 he also posted a pic with other broken recs. apparently he didn't know what tune it was and asked me if i knew it... now, if that was my dog he scanned the label........stuck it onto a copy of joe dolcie - shadup a your face.......then snapped it in half & sent you the picture......still think youve been gazumped Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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