Lp & 12" Market

[Harrogatesoul]

Just looking through sales of LPs/12s (especially ebay) and notice just how much stuff goes through without bids or very cheap.Plus plenty of Motown (as highlighted by Jim G on his LP buying thread) etc going for a few or less quid. 12" wise tons go through without selling and seems the weakest category in cases. Of course the usual rarities in-demanders etc fetch decent money but there's a ton of stuff which attracts little or no interest. No or little market? Too high P&P? Ignorance of the LP market? I for one have 'ignored' the LP market to some point so that's my excuse! Just interested in thoughts and opinions esp. from those regulary selling or colecting. Are the specialist sellers doing good trade?! Probably been done before.... Apologies if its been flogged like a dead horse but just seems reasonably relevant what with all the talk about bottoming out markets etc

Best

Rich

[Sebastian]

Too high P&P?

I would say that this is one of the main reasons (for me personally at least).

If postage was cheaper from the US to Sweden I would be buying cheapie LPs all day long!

Edited June 2, 2008 by Sebastian

[Steve Plumb]

Just looking through sales of LPs/12s (especially ebay) and notice just how much stuff goes through without bids or very cheap.Plus plenty of Motown (as highlighted by Jim G on his LP buying thread) etc going for a few or less quid. 12" wise tons go through without selling and seems the weakest category in cases. Of course the usual rarities in-demanders etc fetch decent money but there's a ton of stuff which attracts little or no interest. No or little market? Too high P&P? Ignorance of the LP market? I for one have 'ignored' the LP market to some point so that's my excuse! Just interested in thoughts and opinions esp. from those regulary selling or colecting. Are the specialist sellers doing good trade?! Probably been done before.... Apologies if its been flogged like a dead horse but just seems reasonably relevant what with all the talk about bottoming out markets etc

Best

Rich

Hi Rich

It's DEFINITELY a buyers market for Soul LP's

There's loads of great 60's 70's & 80's Soul LP's out there (including 100% total quality Soul LP's, established rarities, LP's with killer dancers on them, LP-Only tracks etc) that can be had for next to nowt. I have a page full of LP's for sale on my site and apart from one exception (Lee Macdonald) I'd say everything on the list is well below established market values by a factor of at least 10%-20%. This isn't a direct plug for my site (Oh alright, maybe it is ) but simply pointing out that quality Soul LP's are out there at VERY reasonable prices compared to the 'good' old days

Postage from the US is high BUT there are plenty of Soul LP's to be had in the UK if you look around

Cheers

Steve

[Harrogatesoul]

Agreed Steve. What with the Chi-Lites & Montclairs thread (Amongst the many where LP only tracks were discussed) it does go to show what is out there at little money. Have we done a great LP thread and not necessarily one / two trackers?

Rich

[Jim G]

Yep some good value out there. postage in UK is £3 ish

I have bought a few lately, Supremes A Go Go for £5, last one on Popsike was $102 3 years ago..

[Stillsoulin]

I agree with everything that Steve says, however there are loads of re-issue lps flooding onto the market of late, not sure if entirely legit but, dont get sucked into thinking you are buying the original presses if they are about $9.99. that said, some fabulous lp,s around at the moment.

rob h.

[Harrogatesoul]

Yes there are a lot of the re-issues (I have bought some in the past) sound quality has been ok on the ones I've bought. As for legality I dont know (Am sure its been discussed on here - I'll try and find the link). However things like JR Bailey / Milton Wright / etc do seem to still fetch the money even though they've been re-issued. But you are right it MUST affect the sales of some. BTW what's the score with the GUINNESS label?

12s market too has been re-pressed a lot - But am thinking more the Indie Soul 12" market. Is there a profound ignorance with buyers all buying / chasing the same tunes and not digging deeper! I think it may have been Steve Plumb who has the Tomorrows Wish 12s at £8 - It's a bloody fantastic record! Seen em go through ebay for bugger all. Soul is being missed!!!

Rich

Edited June 2, 2008 by harrogatesoul

[paultp]

About a week ago I listed a whole load of LP's on ebay (not just soul) at 99p start and watched 90% of them finish without a bid, the others hardly raised enough to pay the listing fees for all the listings.

I think the postage is what puts people off. One LP went to Japan and cost just under 7 quid to send, within the Uk it is about 2.50 to 3 quid.

I'm taking them to the car boot on Saturday if the weather is fine. Quid each should see the back of them.

Then I'm going to resurrect my "first 100 UK Motown LPs" project.

[Roger Williams]

It's DEFINITELY a buyers market for Soul LP's

Not at your prices it isn't!!!!!!!!!

[Djr]

well, this is a depressing thread. I just bought a nice group of soul LPs and thought I'd throw some of the spares on e-bay. I guess that idea goes out the window.

[Guest Adrian]

I started collecting lp's before 45's. I like the artwork and the fact you can put em on and actually do sometimes whilst listening...

But yes, they are certainly the cheapest I've seen, you can easily get lps for 10 dollars that UK dealers will charge 30-40 quid for.

there are always exceptions of course, like JR Bailey and alike, but yer average 70's soul lp are cheap as chips these days but like others I have been put off by high P&P charges

[Harrogatesoul]

Then I'm going to resurrect my "first 100 UK Motown LPs" project.

well, this is a depressing thread. I just bought a nice group of soul LPs and thought I'd throw some of the spares on e-bay. I guess that idea goes out the window.

Paul - Your first 100 UK motown LPs will probably be a great bargain (save the rare ones) these days. A Ric Tic Relics LP (ok not a first 100) just went through for £8. Bargain - And it has FF - 'Cant Stop Looking' on it.

Djr - Put em up for sale on here and save yourself some ebay fees. Agree with peoples remarks on P&P - What do we all reckon is the cheapest P&P on LP's?

I'll be the boot fairs this weekend - Buying all those terrible soul lp's for a quid!

Best regards

Rich

[Guest Adrian]

What do we all reckon is the cheapest P&P on LP's?

I charge 2.50 for an lp, which i have for years, thats prob does'nt quite cover as I was using new mailers and stiffners when I off loaded some lps.

I try to recycle mailers when i can, and that why keeps the cost down too have seen 3.50 regulary and even 4.50 from a UK to UK, unless the lp was a bargain I would'nt but out of principle.

I am currently sorting my lps and looking to sell a few, some I am sure I will make a loss on, but we all been there and I don't moan when I grab a bargain......but does'nt look like I will be buying asmuch as planned with the money

[Steve Plumb]

I charge 2.50 for an lp, which i have for years, thats prob does'nt quite cover as I was using new mailers and stiffners when I off loaded some lps.

I try to recycle mailers when i can, and that why keeps the cost down too have seen 3.50 regulary and even 4.50 from a UK to UK, unless the lp was a bargain I would'nt but out of principle.

I charge £3.75 First Class Recorded Delivery...........and you don't get much change out of that I can tell ya!

[Steve Plumb]

Not at your prices it isn't!!!!!!!!!

Cheek f**ker..............you've had many a bargain out of me EVEN when times were good for selling LP's

Hope you're well mate?

Cheers

Steve