I'm a sucker for white demos - especially oddball ones, so here's a few.........

Can anyone indulge me in a few more weird ones.....?

Ian D

  Ian Dewhirst said:

I'm a sucker for white demos - especially oddball ones, so here's a few.........

Can anyone indulge me in a few more weird ones.....?

Ian D

I have a few of those Ian (it seems that you have to say things like that in message board responses ), nice, but may I ask you, or anyone as it goes, about the Babe Ruth boot that I have - apologies if this is baby stuff but I'm sure you all know how it is (you can't know everything now, can you) - the Capitol release is the cleaned up version and in my opinion, the poorer version and not the version that I own on the boot.

I've recently bought the Babe Ruth album, after reading someones views about that LP version on here - and to my detriment haven't played it yet....!

Anyway is the bootlegged version I have a boot of the original independant release prior to Capitol picking it up?

Is that clear enough or have I done my usual job of clouding a very simple issue?

Is The Players a demo Ian?

Thought it was just the 1st issue prior to the Chocolate City one issued after they had to change their name.

Cheers Paul

  Barry said:

I have a few of those Ian (it seems that you have to say things like that in message board responses ), nice, but may I ask you, or anyone as it goes, about the Babe Ruth boot that I have - apologies if this is baby stuff but I'm sure you all know how it is (you can't know everything now, can you) - the Capitol release is the cleaned up version and in my opinion, the poorer version and not the version that I own on the boot.

I've recently bought the Babe Ruth album, after reading someones views about that LP version on here - and to my detriment haven't played it yet....!

Anyway is the bootlegged version I have a boot of the original independant release prior to Capitol picking it up?

Is that clear enough or have I done my usual job of clouding a very simple issue?

I've never heard the boot Barry. Now that you've said that I'll run a comparison between the UK promo and US one although they'll probably be the same won't they?

Plus I never knew that Babe Ruth was an indie release at all!! What label was it? I'm really curious as I thought they were signed straight to Capitol......

Also how much longer is the album version? You'd better play it LOL....

Ian D

  soul shrews said:

Is The Players a demo Ian?

Thought it was just the 1st issue prior to the Chocolate City one issued after they had to change their name.

Cheers Paul

Yeah, I think you're right - there's no promo info on the label after all. Very weird though as Casablanca/Chocolate City were always multi-coloured labels due to Neil Bogart (label owner) always spending lots of dosh LOL.....

It's almost like they figured it may be pulled, which it eventually was of course.....

Should've been a promo that's what I say LOL....

Ian D

  Ian Dewhirst said:

Very weird though as Casablanca/Chocolate City were always multi-coloured labels due to Neil Bogart (label owner) always spending lots of dosh LOL.....

Ian D

Good point Ian hadn"t thought of it that way.

Ever seen a multi coloured one ? It is CC001 so is that the 1st Choc City release ?? The Cameo Choc City is also CC001

Cheers Paul

Babe Ruth the US Cap Issue is 3.20 and 5.02 what do you get on the demo Mono - Stereo sides?

  Barry said:

I have a few of those Ian (it seems that you have to say things like that in message board responses ), nice, but may I ask you, or anyone as it goes, about the Babe Ruth boot that I have - apologies if this is baby stuff but I'm sure you all know how it is (you can't know everything now, can you) - the Capitol release is the cleaned up version and in my opinion, the poorer version and not the version that I own on the boot.

I've recently bought the Babe Ruth album, after reading someones views about that LP version on here - and to my detriment haven't played it yet....!

Anyway is the bootlegged version I have a boot of the original independant release prior to Capitol picking it up?

Is that clear enough or have I done my usual job of clouding a very simple issue?

I have the lp STEALING HOME much longer version if i remember rightly

  soul shrews said:

Good point Ian hadn"t thought of it that way.

Ever seen a multi coloured one ? It is CC001 so is that the 1st Choc City release ?? The Cameo Choc City is also CC001

Cheers Paul

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Typical innit. I have EVERY coloured label Cameo release on Chocolate City except "Find My Way" - probably 'cos I have The Players. I'm pretty sure it came out as Cameo on the multi-coloured label with the same cat no but I'm sure someone on here can confirm....

Ian D

  Prophonics 2029 said:

Babe Ruth the US Cap Issue is 3.20 and 5.02 what do you get on the demo Mono - Stereo sides?

Both versions in stereo - 3.20 and 5.02 - it's "Elusive" on both sides and that's probably why I kept it!

Ian D

  Ian Dewhirst said:

I've never heard the boot Barry. Now that you've said that I'll run a comparison between the UK promo and US one although they'll probably be the same won't they?

Plus I never knew that Babe Ruth was an indie release at all!! What label was it? I'm really curious as I thought they were signed straight to Capitol......

Also how much longer is the album version? You'd better play it LOL....

Ian D

Babe Ruth wasn't ever 'an indie release', mate. They were actually signed to EMI (Bovema) Holland, from about 1971 to 1977, and their releases appeared on various EMI affiliates around the world throughout that time. Over here they were on Harvest first, then Capitol.

I saw them live in 1972, long before their brief 'adoption' on the scene and when they were touring to support the (very funky) single "Wells Fargo". The girl singer they had back then (Jennie Haas) was to drool for! I believe that the girl on "Elusive" was a 'later model' and an English girl, though...

The first week that "Find My Way" came through on import as the Players, they were on the white label that you've posted up here. But only the first week...

  TONY ROUNCE said:

Babe Ruth wasn't ever 'an indie release', mate. They were actually signed to EMI (Bovema) Holland, from about 1971 to 1977, and their releases appeared on various EMI affiliates around the world throughout that time. Over here they were on Harvest first, then Capitol.

I saw them live in 1972, long before their brief 'adoption' on the scene and when they were touring to support the (very funky) single "Wells Fargo". The girl singer they had back then (Jennie Haas) was to drool for! I believe that the girl on "Elusive" was a 'later model' and an English girl, though...

The first week that "Find My Way" came through on import as the Players, they were on the white label that you've posted up here. But only the first week...

That's what I thought Tony. I think it was when Barry said "anyway is the bootlegged version I have a boot of the original independant release prior to Capitol picking it up"? that made me question it LOL....

Interesting band Babe Ruth - I think they had a breakbeat collectible as well with "The Mexican" I seem to recall.........

Ian D

I can confirm - Cameo - Multicolour label and same cat number.

One on Ebay under seller 45heaven (Barrie Waddington)

  Ernie Andrews said:

I can confirm - Cameo - Multicolour label and same cat number.

One on Ebay under seller 45heaven (Barrie Waddington)

promos multicoloured too

heres a 10" acetate of the players, ive always wondered about this note on the sleeve, anyway somebody wasnt too impressed with this, tom moulton ????

  Ian Dewhirst said:

Yeah, I think you're right - there's no promo info on the label after all. Very weird though as Casablanca/Chocolate City were always multi-coloured labels due to Neil Bogart (label owner) always spending lots of dosh LOL.....

It's almost like they figured it may be pulled, which it eventually was of course.....

Should've been a promo that's what I say LOL....

Ian D

Still nice though

I'm a sucker for demo's too, would always go for a demo even if the issue was rarer

Whilst we are on the subject of demo's i've got a white demo of the 'Voice Masters - If A Woman Catches A Fool/Never Gonna Leave You' on Bamboo BMB 105. It's the rarest form on issue but does that still apply to the demo, or is it rarer ? Can't say i've seen another or seen one advertised so my guess is yes, appreciate if someone could clarify.

  ric-tic said:

heres a 10" acetate of the players, ive always wondered about this note on the sleeve, anyway somebody wasnt too impressed with this, tom moulton ????

Great to see stuff like that

  ric-tic said:

heres a 10" acetate of the players, ive always wondered about this note on the sleeve, anyway somebody wasnt too impressed with this, tom moulton ????

Do you fancy selling it-?

  ric-tic said:

heres a 10" acetate of the players, ive always wondered about this note on the sleeve, anyway somebody wasnt too impressed with this, tom moulton ????

I think it is! It looks like Tom's writing. I'll check with him next time I speak to him and see if he remembers - I know Tom quite well following the Salsoul reissues in '02-'05 'cos he's still on the Salsoul payroll......

Ian D

  Ian Dewhirst said:

I think it is! It looks like Tom's writing. I'll check with him next time I speak to him and see if he remembers - I know Tom quite well following the Salsoul reissues in '02-'05 'cos he's still on the Salsoul payroll......

Ian D

If you do speak to him can you pass on that i for one thought he did a terrific job on that Jamie/Guyden CD 'The Northern Side Of Philly Soul' ! I thought he made some old standards sound even better ! Would have been so easy to have over cooked it & ruined them !

No great thing coming from me i know ! but appreciate if you could pass it on anyhow

  Bogue said:

If you do speak to him can you pass on that i for one thought he did a terrific job on that Jamie/Guyden CD 'The Northern Side Of Philly Soul' ! I thought he made some old standards sound even better ! Would have been so easy to have over cooked it & ruined them !

No great thing coming from me i know ! but appreciate if you could pass it on anyhow

It'd be a pleasure Bogue and gives me an excuse to ring the cantankerous old sod LOL! He's still the top guy for mastering the 70's gear to me, even though his apartment stinks of cat pee and master tapes - a perfect smell for us vinyl hounds in many ways.....

Ian D