Real Collectors Or Just Bullshi**ers

[Russoul1]

hi all, what is it with record collectors/collecting, you get the honest collectors with nothing to hide

and dont give you the big "ive got that at home" "got this n that" "paid ££££s for this/that the

other week" "had that for years" etc, these people stand out like sore thumbs dont they? why is there so many bullshi**ers on the collectors scene, n why do they do it? is it a ego thing or just do they

think we dont see it n think there the elites? come on without naming or shaming we all know someone/or people like this? or am i the only person who sees n hears it?

yours thoughts please

regards

russ

[Diggin' Dave]

Of course we all know people like that, but they're peeps are usually people with very few friends or other exciting things to do, so they try to boost their ego's by bragging about their collections.

Although I have to admit that I too like the feeling of finding a record cheap and seeing it sold for ££££ by someone the next week, bragging on it on public forums is another thing.

But I've always had the feeling that this bragging doesn't happen too often on this forum. It's more about sharing knowledge and I hope it stay that way! (although I have to admit that the "got this for £30 back in the 80's"-comments tend to pop up quite often)

[Russoul1]

But I've always had the feeling that this bragging doesn't happen too often on this forum. It's more about sharing knowledge and I hope it stay that way! (although I have to admit that the "got this for £30 back in the 80's"-comments tend to pop up quite often)

[Modernsoulsucks]

What a coincidence!! I was only saying this to Nicole Kidman the other day when she popped round to see my Tomangoe's withdrawn WDJ on Ric Tic 113. She said that must be really hard and I said......

Anybody wanna be my penfriend?

ROD

[Iancsloft]

What a coincidence!! I was only saying this to Nicole Kidman the other day when she popped round to see my Tomangoe's withdrawn WDJ on Ric Tic 113. She said that must be really hard and I said......

Anybody wanna be my penfriend?

ROD

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Bloody hell Rod there,s a copy of that on my loft wall along with the withdrawn mispelt.. love is this if--Precisions D-Town demo

[Guest]

hi all, what is it with record collectors/collecting, you get the honest collectors with nothing to hide

and dont give you the big "ive got that at home" "got this n that" "paid ££££s for this/that the

other week" "had that for years" etc, these people stand out like sore thumbs dont they? why is there so many bullshi**ers on the collectors scene, n why do they do it? is it a ego thing or just do they

think we dont see it n think there the elites? come on without naming or shaming we all know someone/or people like this? or am i the only person who sees n hears it?

yours thoughts please

regards

russ

What about the people who walk round venues with records that cost a fortune, and say its a selling box make me offers!! They have NO intention of selling, but LOVE in all the ATTENTION they get from collectors/punters.

Everytime someone makes an offer they say they will have to get back to them as its promised to someone else!!!! Unless they meet a mug with way too much money!!

[Modernsoulsucks]

hi all, what is it with record collectors/collecting, you get the honest collectors with nothing to hide

and dont give you the big "ive got that at home" "got this n that" "paid ££££s for this/that the

other week" "had that for years" etc, these people stand out like sore thumbs dont they? why is there so many bullshi**ers on the collectors scene, n why do they do it? is it a ego thing or just do they

think we dont see it n think there the elites? come on without naming or shaming we all know someone/or people like this? or am i the only person who sees n hears it?

yours thoughts please

regards

russ

I know what you mean but if someone says to me I have "so and so" at home I accept it at face value. How do you know they haven't. You must be thinking of particular instances. Without naming names,although it would be more fun if you did, could you give us a few examples of blatant story telling.

ROD

Edited March 27, 2008 by modernsoulsucks

[Russ Vickers]

Once apprehended a reasonably well known 'face' around the bizarres at a Nighter in the Midlands, who was carrying around a copy of a known in demand rareity, I asked is that for sale, they replied in the positive & being wadded that weekend, I said I'll take it off ya hands then.........after some coughing, spluttering & what have you, they disappeared into the etha still in possession of the disc & bathing in the reflected glory.......a few years later, I managed to snag a copy of the disc off another dealer & low & behold, when it arrived it was the same copy that had eluded me that night a few years before as there was a distinguishing 'mark' on the label.................sooooooooooo it alway's was going to be mine one way or the other.

Junking locally a few years back & bumped into a local British Motown collector, we had a brief conversation, which the store owner was listening to also & I can only imagine the bloke was trying to impress the store owner, as when we discussed my latest Motown aquisition, which at the time was Virgil Henry - You Aint Saying Nothing New.......he say's 'oh yeah' I have that on British............I did say Im pretty sure this never got a UK release, so questioned the said collector further, only to be ridiculed over my lack of knowledge over British released Motown...............as I disappeared with my tail between my legs, thinking what a w**ker, I thought I must check that out as Im sure that its bollox.........however I never did & I bet some one now tells me, that it came out as a b side of a reissue or some such thing......

ATB Russ

Edited March 27, 2008 by Russ Vickers

[Souljazera]

yes plenty of bullshitters about..best thing is to throw a curve ball for fun...

however some people really did pay 30 quid for records way way back...and quite a lot didnt!! but only wished they did...

[Jim G]

yes plenty of bullshitters about..best thing is to throw a curve ball for fun...

however some people really did pay 30 quid for records way way back...and quite a lot didnt!! but only wished they did...

And many of us werent even earning £30 way back the (I was taking £12:47 in '74!)

A bit off topic but what the hell, I am off to play my acetate of Frank Wilson..

[Guest gordon russell]

hi all, what is it with record collectors/collecting, you get the honest collectors with nothing to hide

and dont give you the big "ive got that at home" "got this n that" "paid ££££s for this/that the

other week" "had that for years" etc, these people stand out like sore thumbs dont they? why is there so many bullshi**ers on the collectors scene, n why do they do it? is it a ego thing or just do they

think we dont see it n think there the elites? come on without naming or shaming we all know someone/or people like this? or am i the only person who sees n hears it?

yours thoughts please

regards

russ

hey Russ....this thread makes a change......talking about collectors.Everyone who's been about a few years will have umpteen tales about tunes it's just the way it's always been....do what i do don't talk about records at allnighters......talk about scary things it's much more fun.....by the way I bought in the 80's the aeroplane song,lady in green,ester grant and don gardner for a £1 each from tim brown

[Guest SteveJohnston]

But I've always had the feeling that this bragging doesn't happen too often on this forum. It's more about sharing knowledge and I hope it stay that way! (although I have to admit that the "got this for £30 back in the 80's"-comments tend to pop up quite often)

i agree with your comments, this thread isnt a slure on anyone by the way, and like you say doesnt seem to happen to often on this site, seems to be more when out n about talking to people.

but lately seems to be getting worse and rather embarrassing.

This kind of comment or post dose not bother me at all, what dose bother me sometimes in the form of nightmares is thinking about all the records I sold for £30 and a lot less in the 80's probable to the people that brag about buying at that price! ....................Mind you my therapy to get over this is now i buy records i really like not what is keeping the dance floor happy

[Stuart Bower]

Once apprehended a reasonably well known 'face' around the bizarres at a Nighter in the Midlands, who was carrying around a copy of a known in demand rareity, I asked is that for sale, they replied in the positive & being wadded that weekend, I said I'll take it off ya hands then.........after some coughing, spluttering & what have you, they disappeared into the etha still in possession of the disc & bathing in the reflected glory.......a few years later, I managed to snag a copy of the disc off another dealer & low & behold, when it arrived it was the same copy that had eluded me that night a few years before as there was a distinguishing 'mark' on the label.................sooooooooooo it alway's was going to be mine one way or the other.

Junking locally a few years back & bumped into a local British Motown collector, we had a brief conversation, which the store owner was listening to also & I can only imagine the bloke was trying to impress the store owner, as when we discussed my latest Motown aquisition, which at the time was Virgil Henry - You Aint Saying Nothing New.......he say's 'oh yeah' I have that on British............I did say Im pretty sure this never got a UK release, so questioned the said collector further, only to be ridiculed over my lack of knowledge over British released Motown...............as I disappeared with my tail between my legs, thinking what a w**ker, I thought I must check that out as Im sure that its bollox.........however I never did & I bet some one now tells me, that it came out as a b side of a reissue or some such thing......

ATB Russ

Nope-you`re right-it`s bollox..Virgil Henry was never released in the UK... But where was the guy that told you he had one released from?

[Guest moggy]

This kind of comment or post dose not bother me at all, what dose bother me sometimes in the form of nightmares is thinking about all the records I sold for £30 and a lot less in the 80's probable to the people that brag about buying at that price! ....................Mind you my therapy to get over this is now i buy records i really like not what is keeping the dance floor happy

It could be so much worse

In reality, if we could all go back and buy something from 20/30 years ago

I don"t think it would be records

Most certainly property

Same as those people that sold there property prior to the boom

how gutted must they have been

And if I remember the scene took a hell of dip when everyone decided to get wed and bring up kids, some stuff you couldn"t give away

As for bull sh**ters smell em a mile off, be it the "I have that at home" type or the "I could have bought that off so & so for X"

When the latter crops up, I always retort with "Well get it and I"ll pay you twice the price its gonna cost you"

they normally fook off and dont bother giving it the big one, well not to me anyway

They must have an arse like a rhino cos it never seems to stop em, even when all and sundry know there fibbing & some of em know every one knows

If you know what I mean

[Guest moggy]

Nope-you`re right-it`s bollox..Virgil Henry was never released in the UK... But where was the guy that told you he had one released from?

Bull Shi**ers Anonomous

[Prophonics 2029]

I know a guy like this but he is very entertaing in the late mornings with his bragging, I couldn't make up better..

Posers piss me off bring out the play box and offering it up all as sales with no intention of ever parting with a single piece.

[Wilxy]

Me, I love my vinyl, and have been an avid collector from day one.......but I'm b---oxed if I'm gonna tell any of you lot about it, you jealous b-----ds you

[Guest Bogue]

hey Russ....this thread makes a change......talking about collectors.Everyone who's been about a few years will have umpteen tales about tunes it's just the way it's always been....do what i do don't talk about records at allnighters......talk about scary things it's much more fun.....by the way I bought in the 80's the aeroplane song,lady in green,ester grant and don gardner for a £1 each from tim brown

No offence intended Mr Darcy, but i still don't think i would want to pay more than £1 for Aeroplane Song or Lady In Green !

Only a personal taste thing loike

[Mark Jones]

I got a demo of that in the attic

[Guest gordon russell]

No offence intended Mr Darcy, but i still don't think i would want to pay more than £1 for Aeroplane Song or Lady In Green !

Only a personal taste thing loike

YEH BUT MY AEROPLANE SONG WAS ON SMASH....AND LADY IN GREEN WAS ON GOLDEN WORLD

[NEV]

I know a guy like this but he is very entertaing in the late mornings with his bragging, I couldn't make up better..

Posers piss me off bring out the play box and offering it up all as sales with no intention of ever parting with a single piece.

Must say we're not familiar with this practice in the N.east .

Only wished when i took my sales box to venues people would bloody offer me something for em!

Maybe they think its my pretend sales box and i don't really wanna sell em

To be honest it's scary enough taking yer records to dj ,wondering if someones gonna mug you,without taking em to show off

[Guest Bogue]

YEH BUT MY AEROPLANE SONG WAS ON SMASH....AND LADY IN GREEN WAS ON GOLDEN WORLD

Didn't have a load of sticky Bernie Williams too did you ?

Was it ever proved that LIG was recorded at Golden World in the end ? I remember it being talked about but no one could say for sure could they ?

[Guest Bogue]

Must say we're not familiar with this practice in the N.east .

Only wished when i took my sales box to venues people would bloody offer me something for em!

Maybe they think its my pretend sales box and i don't really wanna sell em

To be honest it's scary enough taking yer records to dj ,wondering if someones gonna mug you,without taking em to show off

I was thinking similar, they must be bloody nuts ! Most people i've come across with really good collections are usually reluctant to even let you handle them in their own home, let alone take em out to a do !

[Nickinstoke]

This thread reminds me of the time I was at Stoke Beer Festival with Jim Bates, some time in the mid 80s. We were watching the half-yard of ale contest, and someone announced as "Little Eddie Knight" came up to drink his half-yard of an ale called "Big Lamp", prompting us to "invent" a record called "Half a yard" by Little Eddie Knight, on Big Lamp. We mentioned it a few times as a joke - it was surprising how many poeple had heard it, or used to have a copy.

Nick

[arnie j]

This thread reminds me of the time I was at Stoke Beer Festival with Jim Bates, some time in the mid 80s. We were watching the half-yard of ale contest, and someone announced as "Little Eddie Knight" came up to drink his half-yard of an ale called "Big Lamp", prompting us to "invent" a record called "Half a yard" by Little Eddie Knight, on Big Lamp. We mentioned it a few times as a joke - it was surprising how many poeple had heard it, or used to have a copy.

Nick

great story that mate, proves a point dont u think ?

[Guest Bogue]

Once apprehended a reasonably well known 'face' around the bizarres at a Nighter in the Midlands, who was carrying around a copy of a known in demand rareity, I asked is that for sale, they replied in the positive & being wadded that weekend, I said I'll take it off ya hands then.........after some coughing, spluttering & what have you, they disappeared into the etha still in possession of the disc & bathing in the reflected glory.......a few years later, I managed to snag a copy of the disc off another dealer & low & behold, when it arrived it was the same copy that had eluded me that night a few years before as there was a distinguishing 'mark' on the label.................sooooooooooo it alway's was going to be mine one way or the other.

Junking locally a few years back & bumped into a local British Motown collector, we had a brief conversation, which the store owner was listening to also & I can only imagine the bloke was trying to impress the store owner, as when we discussed my latest Motown aquisition, which at the time was Virgil Henry - You Aint Saying Nothing New.......he say's 'oh yeah' I have that on British............I did say Im pretty sure this never got a UK release, so questioned the said collector further, only to be ridiculed over my lack of knowledge over British released Motown...............as I disappeared with my tail between my legs, thinking what a w**ker, I thought I must check that out as Im sure that its bollox.........however I never did & I bet some one now tells me, that it came out as a b side of a reissue or some such thing......

ATB Russ

Just going off on a tangent slightly re the point Russ made about the record coming back to him. Has anyone ever had records come back that they have let go ? e.g. records that you had (dare i say it ) initialed or marked in some way which you sold on or swapped only to purchase them again years down the line ?

[binsy]

What a coincidence!! I was only saying this to Nicole Kidman the other day when she popped round to see my Tomangoe's withdrawn WDJ on Ric Tic 113. She said that must be really hard and I said......

Anybody wanna be my penfriend?

ROD

Fantastic

[Dave Thorley]

Or Gary Colborn just seemed to keep buying(love to see his collection as he was/is a crafty buyer)

Gary would like to see his collection, you can only just get in his bedroom for record boxes, i'm sure there are records in there that he's not seen since he got them. Persuaded him to DJ a couple of time upstairs at Stafford, play blinding sets each time, but was shitting him self all the way through, never used the mic once. A great mate and a nice bloke

Dave

[Platters 81]

This thread reminds me of the time I was at Stoke Beer Festival with Jim Bates, some time in the mid 80s. We were watching the half-yard of ale contest, and someone announced as "Little Eddie Knight" came up to drink his half-yard of an ale called "Big Lamp", prompting us to "invent" a record called "Half a yard" by Little Eddie Knight, on Big Lamp. We mentioned it a few times as a joke - it was surprising how many poeple had heard it, or used to have a copy.

Nick

i seem to recall he drank it standing on his head (very impressive).....the label design suggested was black paper with a yellow bulb logo.....(Dave Alcock was going to design it...artistic chap that he was)...happy days

[Chris Anderton]

Russ, I always thought you got it the wrong way around....bullshitting about all the records you DID`NT find when you lived in the States for 3 years with nothing else to do!!

Chris

[Guest]

hi all, what is it with record collectors/collecting, you get the honest collectors with nothing to hide

and dont give you the big "ive got that at home" "got this n that" "paid ££££s for this/that the

other week" "had that for years" etc, these people stand out like sore thumbs dont they? why is there so many bullshi**ers on the collectors scene, n why do they do it? is it a ego thing or just do they

think we dont see it n think there the elites? come on without naming or shaming we all know someone/or people like this? or am i the only person who sees n hears it?

yours thoughts please

regards

russ

If you picked somthing new out of your arsehole, they would all know where it originated from on here, so there is no point in trying to shit anyone really is there?

They all know what your made of!!!!

The Soul mafia rule!

[John A]

But I've always had the feeling that this bragging doesn't happen too often on this forum. It's more about sharing knowledge and I hope it stay that way! (although I have to admit that the "got this for £30 back in the 80's"-comments tend to pop up quite often)

I dunno,the wants section often has people letting the "wantee" know, they DONT wanna sell their copy.

[Guest mel brat]

Nope-you`re right-it`s bollox..Virgil Henry was never released in the UK... But where was the guy that told you he had one released from?

Right - since Virgil Henry is a 1972 recording, I don't think we'd have missed it, also I believe it was picked up from COLOSSUS records, so I doubt Motown had the right to release it overseas anyway! - 'course, it could have come out on Polydor.....

Edited April 3, 2008 by mel brat