Soulfool Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Milton Wright - I Belong To You - Satiron, been booted? Current value if not? Cheers David
Pete S Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Satiron is a boot, so to speak - there was never an official 60's release, this was a 70's press by Soul Bowl given to dj's
Wrongcrowd Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Satiron is a boot, so to speak - there was never an official 60's release, this was a 70's press by Soul Bowl given to dj's ....and sold in the 100's off the front page.
Rupert Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 ....and sold in the 100's off the front page. i put a want for this about a year ago but never got a copy offered. so if there's 100's .
Wally Francis Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I asked John Anderson (Soul Bowl) about this some time ago and he said only 250 were pressed, i had 2 now i have 1 sold 1 last year £100.
Pete S Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I've only ever had 2 copies to be honest...I never even saw one til the late 80's
45cellar Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I've only ever had 2 copies to be honest...I never even saw one til the late 80's I have only ever had the one chance to buy & that was from the Soul Bowl list. Certainly elusive nowadays, never seen many, if any for sale since. Probably still sitting in collections like many titles do. 250 I didn't know how many, but wasn't it released shortly before the Grapevine release. both Soul Bowl conections, and surely they must have had the rights to the record anyway. That being the case, I reckon 250 would be a sensible amount, being previously unreleased, enough to gain interest for the later Grapevine copy without affecting sales.
Platters 81 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 as far as i know the flip ......vocal version of "like a rolling stone" has never been released anywhere else .before or since.....real nice it is too......
Garethx Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) I picked one up in Oxfam, Marylebone High Street, London, last year. Mind you, being Marylebone HIgh St. it was expensive for a charity shop single at £5. The Rolling Stone side sounds very good indeed now. Edited March 21, 2008 by garethx
Dave Pinch Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 sold mine for £30 a few years ago. i wish i hadent now. not very often i regret selling stuff. but theres about a dozen titles i let go . not the money either its finding the buggers dave
Guest Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I asked John Anderson (Soul Bowl) about this some time ago and he said only 250 were pressed, i had 2 now i have 1 sold 1 last year £100. Always thought "The Gallop" is a proper USA release on Carla? With Like A Rolling Stone on the flip. Or was that a Soul Bowl Special? "I Belong To You" sounded wonderful in Wigan Casino, when it was a monster, before the Grapevine release!
Guest Darks Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 as far as i know the flip ......vocal version of "like a rolling stone" has never been released anywhere else .before or since.....real nice it is too...... You've sort of answered a question I was gonna post. The other side "Like a rolling stone" is pretty damn fine and wondered whether this is it's only format. From Platters post it seems that there is an instrumental release. Can anyone clarify. I did hear Soul Sam play "Like a rolling stone" at a Ritz warm up many years ago. Not heard it since. Alex Denham from Sheffield turned me onto it back in the 80s and fortunately I already had a copy since being a yoof. Did'nt realise there were so few pressed. A great side with potential. The "Gallop/I belong to you" always reminds me of the theme from Black Beauty and that's not a blaxploitation film it's the one about the horse. Regards Alan
45cellar Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Always thought "The Gallop" is a proper USA release on Carla? With Like A Rolling Stone on the flip. Or was that a Soul Bowl Special? "I Belong To You" sounded wonderful in Wigan Casino, when it was a monster, before the Grapevine release! You've sort of answered a question I was gonna post. The other side "Like a rolling stone" is pretty damn fine and wondered whether this is it's only format. From Platters post it seems that there is an instrumental release. Can anyone clarify. I did hear Soul Sam play "Like a rolling stone" at a Ritz warm up many years ago. Not heard it since. Alex Denham from Sheffield turned me onto it back in the 80s and fortunately I already had a copy since being a yoof. Did'nt realise there were so few pressed. A great side with potential. The "Gallop/I belong to you" always reminds me of the theme from Black Beauty and that's not a blaxploitation film it's the one about the horse. Regards Alan Yes "The Gallop" was a Carla release with "Like A Rolling Stone" on the flip side. A couple of label Variations for this one.
gazman Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 I have only ever had the one chance to buy & that was from the Soul Bowl list. Certainly elusive nowadays, never seen many, if any for sale since. Probably still sitting in collections like many titles do. 250 I didn't know how many, but wasn't it released shortly before the Grapevine release. both Soul Bowl conections, and surely they must have had the rights to the record anyway. That being the case, I reckon 250 would be a sensible amount, being previously unreleased, enough to gain interest for the later Grapevine copy without affecting sales. Assuming they had the rights, does this make it a bootleg or a first legit issue (technically speaking)? 250 copies ain't much so technically speaking (again) it's quite rare (is it not?). gary
Platters 81 Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 does anyone know why Carla released two instrumental backing tracks originally .....when there were two vocal versions recorded?......always baffled me......
bri pinch Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 does anyone know why Carla released two instrumental backing tracks originally .....when there were two vocal versions recorded?......always baffled me...... PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE VOCALS WERE ADDED LATER, JUST FOR THE OCCASION . BRI PINCH.
45cellar Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Assuming they had the rights, does this make it a bootleg or a first legit issue (technically speaking)? 250 copies ain't much so technically speaking (again) it's quite rare (is it not?). gary Hi Gary I have always assumed that they had the rights, so for me it's a first legit issue. For the reasons I gave (Later Grapevine Release) I believe that it is rare.
45cellar Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) does anyone know why Carla released two instrumental backing tracks originally .....when there were two vocal versions recorded?......always baffled me...... It is one of those records with an enigmatic history. Reading Pete's brilliant discography of the Grapevine Label apparently it was Intended for release on Carla, shelved at the last minute. Voc/Inst back to back with "The Gallop". Edited March 22, 2008 by 45cellar
Guest Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) I picked one up in Oxfam, Marylebone High Street, London, last year. Mind you, being Marylebone HIgh St. it was expensive for a charity shop single at £5. The Rolling Stone side sounds very good indeed now. Expensive ? Try going into any of the Oxfam shops in Edinburgh ........ I bought a few things , the cheapest being £6 , but the dearest one I bought was a copy of The Thrills " Underneath My Makeup " ( Capitol Demo ) - £10 ........ Malc Burton Edited March 22, 2008 by Malc Burton
Wrongcrowd Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 PERSONALLY THINK THAT THE VOCALS WERE ADDED LATER, JUST FOR THE OCCASION . BRI PINCH. Yeah, that's what I've always thought
Mike Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Yeah, that's what I've always thought on rolling stone - milton wright passed on the below a bit back Like A Rolling Stone is missnamed by the record label Milton Wright wrote and recorded with the Terra Shirma Strings "Like A rolling River" then when he left law school in Ann Arbor he left recording for the first time. Later to reenter with Keep It Up from his Friends and Buddies album. How do I know? I'm the Honorable Milton Wright , Judge of the Boston Municipal court in Roxbury Massachusetts. Look me up on the internet. Still singing and still writing. Milton Wright there's a video of Milton here https://www.newmorningtv.tv/todaysshow_110607.jsp have passed on details of this thread to him, hopefully he get back in touch with a bit of the background story etc mike
45cellar Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 on rolling stone - milton wright passed on the below a bit back Like A Rolling Stone is missnamed by the record label Milton Wright wrote and recorded with the Terra Shirma Strings "Like A rolling River" then when he left law school in Ann Arbor he left recording for the first time. Later to reenter with Keep It Up from his Friends and Buddies album. How do I know? I'm the Honorable Milton Wright , Judge of the Boston Municipal court in Roxbury Massachusetts. Look me up on the internet. Still singing and still writing. Milton Wright there's a video of Milton here https://www.newmorningtv.tv/todaysshow_110607.jsp have passed on details of this thread to him, hopefully he get back in touch with a bit of the background story etc mike Thanks Mike Brilliant. I look forward to his reply/Input.
Dave Fleming Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 I don`t think this is a Boot so to speak,i thought it was a joint venture between J Anderson and the "Carla" label owner Ollie McLaughlinin the mid to late 70s,so i think it was legal although done especialy for the UK Northern scene. Dave f..........
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