Ian Dewhirst Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 (edited) I'm in the middle of a collection audit, so I'm re-visiting lots of previously forgotten stuff (like the Johnny Johnson from last week) so every time I bump into something of interest I like posting it. This is a perfect example. Where was this when we needed it!!! Prime-time Philadelphia perfection and I reckon they must have heard "If That's What You Wanted" - Frank Beverly 'cos the BV's at the beginning are very similar. But how come this didn't surface till the 90's? I reckon this would have been huge virtually everywhere if we'd had it in the 70's. Also a rare uptempo workout from the group known for their tear-jerking ballads and the soundtrack of "Jackie Brown" LOL.... I'd love to hear this out and played LOUD! Would sound spectacular. I have permission to post this from the owner....... Enjoy! Ian D09_You_ll_Get_Enough.mp3 Edited March 15, 2008 by Ian Dewhirst
Steve L Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Am I right in thinking this wasnt issued in the 60s? I've got it on a Philly Groove reissue with The Crusaders - You Pay For Love on the b side. Your right Ian, great tune which needs playing out
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 15, 2008 Author Posted March 15, 2008 Am I right in thinking this wasnt issued in the 60s? I've got it on a Philly Groove reissue with The Crusaders - You Pay For Love on the b side. Your right Ian, great tune which needs playing out Yeah, it's 60's recording. I got about 20 CD's from Reid Whitelaw who administrates the Philly Groove catalogue and this was buried away in 'em. I think Goldmine did a custom pressing of it which is probably out of stock now. Some great stuff tucked away on those plus I've got all the instrumentals too, so good listening! I'm having great fun digging around this gear again 'cos you just never know what you're going to find. I'd play the Delfonics and Johnny Johnson out anytime 'cos neither have really been played before - y'know, mix 'em in with a few rarities and bob's yer uncle. Talking of which, did you ever hear this? Check file below - I'm sure Glen @ Joe Boy won't mind - I rang him yesterday raving about about this LOL.......... Best, Ian 06_Agent_for_love.mp3
Joefromupnorth Posted March 15, 2008 Posted March 15, 2008 Agree this needs to be played , i ain't a dj in the sense but occasionally get a chance to spin a few early at local soul nights , late spots are always taken !!!....played this twice last year but no reaction , in the north east anyway....no doubt if it was spun at say middleton it would be well received......just needs a mainliner to give it a go.
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 16, 2008 Author Posted March 16, 2008 Agree this needs to be played , i ain't a dj in the sense but occasionally get a chance to spin a few early at local soul nights , late spots are always taken !!!....played this twice last year but no reaction , in the north east anyway....no doubt if it was spun at say middleton it would be well received......just needs a mainliner to give it a go. I think it's one of those that fell between the gaps - there's loads of 'em out there. Unfortunate that it didn't get found 'til the 90's and that it never came out originally. But what a tune - I like it more than a lot of stuff in the Top 500 LOL...... Ian D
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Yeah, it's 60's recording. I got about 20 CD's from Reid Whitelaw who administrates the Philly Groove catalogue and this was buried away in 'em. I think Goldmine did a custom pressing of it which is probably out of stock now. Some great stuff tucked away on those plus I've got all the instrumentals too, so good listening! I'm having great fun digging around this gear again 'cos you just never know what you're going to find. I'd play the Delfonics and Johnny Johnson out anytime 'cos neither have really been played before - y'know, mix 'em in with a few rarities and bob's yer uncle. Talking of which, did you ever hear this? Check file below - I'm sure Glen @ Joe Boy won't mind - I rang him yesterday raving about about this LOL.......... Best, Ian Hello Ian ,I first heard the Delfonics via a Kent CD of unissued and obscure sides ." Agent for love " has an interesting story , being the vocal of course to Guys from Uncle " The Spy " .In the 70's fanzine editor Dave McCadden [RIP ] ,wrote a made up story asking if anyone had a copy of the vocal to The Spy , titled " Agent for love " .It of course didn't exist , though years later people were claiming to have heard it at Cleethorpes !! The folks at Joe Boy decided to make this in the 90's , recorded in B'ham I think .You probably know this story anyway ,the strange world of Northern Soul eh ? Best ,Eddie
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 16, 2008 Author Posted March 16, 2008 Hello Ian ,I first heard the Delfonics via a Kent CD of unissued and obscure sides ." Agent for love " has an interesting story , being the vocal of course to Guys from Uncle " The Spy " .In the 70's fanzine editor Dave McCadden [RIP ] ,wrote a made up story asking if anyone had a copy of the vocal to The Spy , titled " Agent for love " .It of course didn't exist , though years later people were claiming to have heard it at Cleethorpes !! The folks at Joe Boy decided to make this in the 90's , recorded in B'ham I think .You probably know this story anyway ,the strange world of Northern Soul eh ? Best ,Eddie Yeah, but I only heard the song this week and then caught up with the story afterwards. I don't usually like these added vocals - I also listened to a few of the Soussan vocal dubs and they haven't aged well at all - but "Agent For Love" sounds great and pretty authentic to these ears. Also the lyrics have every cliche going - namechecking Agent Double-O Soul and borrowing heavily from Len Jewell's "Bettin' On Love" but I still love it LOL....whoever the vocalist is, she's great! Also it's funny how things repeat themselves isn't it e.g. Soussan listing a fictitious Bob Relf track called "Reaching For The Best" and then Levine nicking the title for the Exciters track? And yep, the Northern Soul scene is strange - probably the strangest scene on the planet LOL...... Ian D
Eddie Hubbard Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Yeah, but I only heard the song this week and then caught up with the story afterwards. I don't usually like these added vocals - I also listened to a few of the Soussan vocal dubs and they haven't aged well at all - but "Agent For Love" sounds great and pretty authentic to these ears. Also the lyrics have every cliche going - namechecking Agent Double-O Soul and borrowing heavily from Len Jewell's "Bettin' On Love" but I still love it LOL....whoever the vocalist is, she's great! Also it's funny how things repeat themselves isn't it e.g. Soussan listing a fictitious Bob Relf track called "Reaching For The Best" and then Levine nicking the title for the Exciters track? And yep, the Northern Soul scene is strange - probably the strangest scene on the planet LOL...... Ian D You're right Ian , it is a goodie , if there was only 2 copies and one was cracked , it'd probably be massive !! Best ,Eddie
Soulof Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 I'm in the middle of a collection audit, so I'm re-visiting lots of previously forgotten stuff (like the Johnny Johnson from last week) so every time I bump into something of interest I like posting it. This is a perfect example. Where was this when we needed it!!! Prime-time Philadelphia perfection and I reckon they must have heard "If That's What You Wanted" - Frank Beverly 'cos the BV's at the beginning are very similar. But how come this didn't surface till the 90's? I reckon this would have been huge virtually everywhere if we'd had it in the 70's. Also a rare uptempo workout from the group known for their tear-jerking ballads and the soundtrack of "Jackie Brown" LOL.... I'd love to hear this out and played LOUD! Would sound spectacular. I have permission to post this from the owner....... Enjoy! Ian D thanks for reminding me of this. a fantastic track for sure ! . Been playin Down is up up is down lately by Delf. out. Sounds fantastic loud and available and cheap as well . sounds a bit like the one above I think
Ady Croasdell Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 thanks for reminding me of this. a fantastic track for sure ! . Been playin Down is up up is down lately by Delf. out. Sounds fantastic loud and available and cheap as well . sounds a bit like the one above I think Now you're talking, I like YGE but Down Is Up is brilliant and I've never heard it played out. £2 record as it sold a million, perhaps that's why; shame on us (well at least me)!
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 17, 2008 Author Posted March 17, 2008 Now you're talking, I like YGE but Down Is Up is brilliant and I've never heard it played out. £2 record as it sold a million, perhaps that's why; shame on us (well at least me)! And I don't even have it! Plus not on any of my Delfonics comps either. Blast. Was never too keen on the syrupy slow stuff back then so looks like I'll have to invest £2 on a single LOL.... Ian D
Neil Rushton Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Yeah, it's 60's recording. I got about 20 CD's from Reid Whitelaw who administrates the Philly Groove catalogue and this was buried away in 'em. I think Goldmine did a custom pressing of it which is probably out of stock now. Some great stuff tucked away on those plus I've got all the instrumentals too, so good listening! I'm having great fun digging around this gear again 'cos you just never know what you're going to find. I'd play the Delfonics and Johnny Johnson out anytime 'cos neither have really been played before - y'know, mix 'em in with a few rarities and bob's yer uncle. Talking of which, did you ever hear this? Check file below - I'm sure Glen @ Joe Boy won't mind - I rang him yesterday raving about about this LOL.......... Best, Ian Ian The vocalist on "Agent For Love" is Jackie Deane, she was vocalist on the vocal to "Strings Of Life" which Defected had a hit with some years ago. The record was made in Alcester, near Stratford-Upon-Avon, very much a tongue-in-cheek kind of thing. I gave first ever play to "Agent For Love" at Ritz all-nighter some years back and Guy Hennigan came running up thinking it was real...if it was good enough for Guy... Neil
Guest Simon Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Now you're talking, I like YGE but Down Is Up is brilliant and I've never heard it played out. £2 record as it sold a million, perhaps that's why; shame on us (well at least me)! Good call Ady, 'Down is up' is superb, flip to 'Didn't i blow your mind'. I've played it out before but not at an NS do, more yer sort of across the board kinda night. Love 'You'll get enough' also! Simon
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 17, 2008 Author Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) Ian The vocalist on "Agent For Love" is Jackie Deane, she was vocalist on the vocal to "Strings Of Life" which Defected had a hit with some years ago. The record was made in Alcester, near Stratford-Upon-Avon, very much a tongue-in-cheek kind of thing. I gave first ever play to "Agent For Love" at Ritz all-nighter some years back and Guy Hennigan came running up thinking it was real...if it was good enough for Guy... Neil Wow. She's great. Plus sounds really authentic too. Also, I got put onto it by a major collector who rates it very highly. Don't blame him. I actually played it on the radio show yesterday (along with the Delfonics) with a full introduction on it, so if you wanna have a listen go to:- https://www.sixmillionsteps.com/6MS-2008-03-16-Starpoint.mp3 It's just over halfway through:- 1st Hour Darlene McCoy - Unity Deniece Williams - Slip Away Kenix & Bobby Youngblood - There's Never Been (No One Like You) Stan Lucas - It's Not The Same Taste Of Honey - We've Got The Groove Fonzi Thornton - Beverly The Live Band - A Chance For Hope Ron & Candy - Lovely Weekend The Supremes - Bad Weather June Evans - If You Want My Loving Dottie Pearson - Bring It Over Baby Gloria Scott - What Am I Gonna Do 2nd Hour The Delfonics - You'll Get Enough Aldora Britton - Do It With Soul The Girls From U.N.C.L.E. - Agent For Love Bobby Hebb - Love Love Love Arnold Blair - Trying To Get Next To You Choice Four - Hook It Up Van McCoy - Soul Improvisations Pts 1 & 2 Jae Mason - Cloud Of Sunshine Sharon McMahon - Get Out Of My Life Charles McCormick - I Want You For Myself The Malemen - Baby Doll The Isley Brothers - Spill The Wine Omari - After Loving You Best, Ian D Edited March 17, 2008 by Ian Dewhirst 1
Soulof Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Good call Ady, 'Down is up' is superb, flip to 'Didn't i blow your mind'. x not my fault Abba won in Brighton Simon
Guest Simon Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Good call Ady, 'Down is up' is superb, flip to 'Didn't i blow your mind'. x not my fault Abba won in Brighton Simon Don't apologise, i like ABBA! Simon
Ady Croasdell Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 I think it's a stomper, not crossover at all. And Ian it was the Stylistics who were syrupy, the Delfonics were pure class. (though Point Of No Return by the Stylistics is a great dancer)
Guest Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Yeah, it's 60's recording. I got about 20 CD's from Reid Whitelaw who administrates the Philly Groove catalogue and this was buried away in 'em. I think Goldmine did a custom pressing of it which is probably out of stock now. Some great stuff tucked away on those plus I've got all the instrumentals too, so good listening! I'm having great fun digging around this gear again 'cos you just never know what you're going to find. I'd play the Delfonics and Johnny Johnson out anytime 'cos neither have really been played before - y'know, mix 'em in with a few rarities and bob's yer uncle. Talking of which, did you ever hear this? Check file below - I'm sure Glen @ Joe Boy won't mind - I rang him yesterday raving about about this LOL.......... Best, Ian Cant you post propper clips,refosoul jobs like the rest of us cause i dont wanna`left click save then mess about getting it to play.
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 17, 2008 Author Posted March 17, 2008 Cant you post propper clips,refosoul jobs like the rest of us cause i dont wanna`left click save then mess about getting it to play. Apologies Ken. I did try and go the Refosoul route on these but I'm a technological buffoon who still can't manage to work it all out. I'm going to have another crack in the next day or so hopefully I'll get 'em up there unless some other good soul can oblige....... Best, Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 17, 2008 Author Posted March 17, 2008 I think it's a stomper, not crossover at all. And Ian it was the Stylistics who were syrupy, the Delfonics were pure class. (though Point Of No Return by the Stylistics is a great dancer) Sorry Ady, I meant to say 'treacley'. My excuse but we weren't allowed to like soppy class back then round our way LOL. Anything less than 80mph was considered heresy........ Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 19, 2008 Author Posted March 19, 2008 Bloody hell! 250+ downloads in 4 days! Plenty of fans out there then....... I'd better get it on Refosoul if someone hasn't already.......... Ian D
Steve Plumb Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Good thread Ian It's funny, I'd dug the 45 out this week for a spin at The Orwell this Saturday! Another uptempo side of theirs that's currently getting spins in the 70's & Crossover clubs is 'I told you so' - that's brill as well! Cheers Steve
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 20, 2008 Author Posted March 20, 2008 Good thread Ian It's funny, I'd dug the 45 out this week for a spin at The Orwell this Saturday! Another uptempo side of theirs that's currently getting spins in the 70's & Crossover clubs is 'I told you so' - that's brill as well! Cheers Steve Cheers Steve. Even if I had a boxful of ultra-rares I'd still play it. It's been a fave of mine since the first time I heard it and it elates me every time I hear it and not many records do that these days. It's almost as if Stan Watson went into the studio one day and said, "OK fellas, enough of this soppy shit, let's give those Motown guys a run for their money and put a Delfonics typa spin on it!". Also weird that there's no strings on it! There's horns on there but no string section which is unheard of on a Delfonics record. I reckon it was probably a demo which never got 'sweetened' or the string section had a day off LOL.... Oh and good luck with The Orwell on Saturday. Give my regards to Sam and Pete Haigh. I'll get up there one day, promise..... And here's "I Told You So" whilst we're on a Delfonics vibe....... Best, Ian D 03_I_told_you_so.mp3
Soul Shrews Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 "Loving Him" on Philly Groove 157 sounding really good these days and more than a little "northern" to these ears anyway Syrupy ? What a load of old waffle ! Cheers Paul
Sunnysoul Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Don't forget "I Can't Get Over Losing You" by the boys!
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