Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 I acquired 2 rare titles on USA this week, 774 Delola Carmichael - Leave That Boy Alone / I'm Gone So Long 852 Tut Sutton - No Appreciation / I Can Feel The Tears Theres little to no info on these anywhere on the web. Does anyone know where there is a USA discography? Suprisingly, there isn't one on Soulful Kinda Music. Can anyone shed more light on these? They're both DJ copies, and both are really nice early soul tunes.
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 I acquired 2 rare titles on USA this week, 774 Delola Carmichael - Leave That Boy Alone / I'm Gone So Long 852 Tut Sutton - No Appreciation / I Can Feel The Tears Theres little to no info on these anywhere on the web. Does anyone know where there is a USA discography? Suprisingly, there isn't one on Soulful Kinda Music. Can anyone shed more light on these? They're both DJ copies, and both are really nice early soul tunes. there are a billion titles on USA, many unknowns. Here is a partial discography: https://www.globaldogproductions.info/u/usa.html Either the 774 number is duplicated or the discography is wrong or you wrote the number wrong.
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 there are a billion titles on USA, many unknowns. Here is a partial discography: https://www.globaldogproductions.info/u/usa.html Either the 774 number is duplicated or the discography is wrong or you wrote the number wrong. also, here is Dave Flynn's listing, I don't know if there is anything here not listed above: https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/USALabelListing.html
Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 I gave the right numbers, looks like they duplicated them, or the Delola wasn't meant to be released. He does list that Bobby Whiteside twice though, as 774 and 775 also, here is Dave Flynn's listing, I don't know if there is anything here not listed above: https://capitolsoulclub.homestead.com/USALabelListing.html
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 I gave the right numbers, looks like they duplicated them, or the Delola wasn't meant to be released. He does list that Bobby Whiteside twice though, as 774 and 775 if it's listed twice probably your number is right.
Weingarden Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 what a great, crazy label. so much apparently rare stuff. anyone ever heard this one? U.S.A. 108 Mod Singers Mr. Thunder You're Gonna Need Me any good??? what do the ones you found sound like, meaty?
Sebastian Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Lovely label! Has anyone got a copy for sale of: Eddie Clearwater - The Duck Walk / Momee, Momee - USA 827 Please PM me if so. I also for some reason have this on an old want lists of mine: Doug And Dave - Don't Know Much About Love / Let's Monkey Too - USA 800 Can't for the life of me remember what i sounds like though!
Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 what a great, crazy label. so much apparently rare stuff. anyone ever heard this one? U.S.A. 108 Mod Singers Mr. Thunder You're Gonna Need Me any good??? what do the ones you found sound like, meaty? I'll try and get clips up of them here this week. The Mod Singers is cool, funky soul, nice breakbeat on the intro of Mr. Thunder.
Anoraks Corner Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 774 Delola Carmichael - Leave That Boy Alone / I'm Gone So Long 852 Tut Sutton - No Appreciation / I Can Feel The Tears They're both DJ copies, and both are really nice early soul tunes. The listing on my site is based on discs I've got/had, plus a few recommendations from fellow collectors. I've never had those two discs you mention...any chance of RA's...always look forward to hearing tracks I don't know, especially on such an interesting label such as USA.
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 what a great, crazy label. so much apparently rare stuff. anyone ever heard this one? U.S.A. 108 Mod Singers Mr. Thunder You're Gonna Need Me any good??? what do the ones you found sound like, meaty? Matt, the Mod Singers is the same song as Frankie Newsome on Savern, except just like the chorus part. I think it also got released as just the mod singers on savern but I can't remember right now. It is a licensed in savern production.
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Lovely label! Has anyone got a copy for sale of: Eddie Clearwater - The Duck Walk / Momee, Momee - USA 827 Please PM me if so. I also for some reason have this on an old want lists of mine: Doug And Dave - Don't Know Much About Love / Let's Monkey Too - USA 800 Can't for the life of me remember what i sounds like though! I've definitely seen the doug and dave recently, I think it was on ebay very recently actually.
Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Matt, the Mod Singers is the same song as Frankie Newsome on Savern, except just like the chorus part. I think it also got released as just the mod singers on savern but I can't remember right now. It is a licensed in savern production. The Mod Singers on Savern is different
Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 The Mod Singers on Savern is different Uploaded one of the Delola tunes on the Refosoul, uploading the other side as we speak...
Weingarden Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 doug and dave is an early-sixties new orleans (or at least new orleans-sounding) record. both sides are pretty good, if i recall.
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 doug and dave is an early-sixties new orleans (or at least new orleans-sounding) record. both sides are pretty good, if i recall. there are a bunch of new orleans things licensed into USA, that Tempos (same group as on Bofuz / Montelle Michelle) and another artist with "st." in their name, I forget what it was, it was on ebay recently.
Marc Forrest Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 doug and dave is an early-sixties new orleans (or at least new orleans-sounding) record. both sides are pretty good, if i recall. Not at all Matt, it is more like a fast version of Sam Cooke`s "Wonderfuld World" done in a Buster & James or Don & Ron (to get back that Louisiana feel ) type. I had this over fifteen odd years ago c/up and named the tune when we did the label back on raresoulforum.co.uk several years ago. It is missing in the other than that fantastic USA discography that was published once in Shades Of Soul. I truly believe this record is one of the harder releases on USA. I had several (well, two...) IDOLS and Dorothy Berries on USA but still only ever found one of these. Marc
Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Not at all Matt, it is more like a fast version of Sam Cooke`s "Wonderfuld World" done in a Buster & James or Don & Ron (to get back that Louisiana feel ) type. I had this over fifteen odd years ago c/up and named the tune when we did the label back on raresoulforum.co.uk several years ago. It is missing in the other than that fantastic USA discography that was published once in Shades Of Soul. I truly believe this record is one of the harder releases on USA. I had several (well, two...) IDOLS and Dorothy Berries on USA but still only ever found one of these. Marc Surely this Delola Carmichael has to be the hardest thing on USA? Appears to be the only documented copy online whatsoever.
Weingarden Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 wait, i'll admit that i now can't remember what the doug and dave a-side sounds like, but the "let's monkey too" side certainly sounds like a typical early-sixties new orleans r&b dance record, no??? i'll check when i get home, but that's how i remember it.
Mal C Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) Surely this Delola Carmichael has to be the hardest thing on USA? Appears to be the only documented copy online whatsoever. I've no doubt its a rare track but I would not go by what's not online...if you get my meaning... Wow Tut Sutton is a killer!! how much did you pay for that if you don't mind me asking? Mal Edited March 4, 2008 by Mal.C.
boba Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Surely this Delola Carmichael has to be the hardest thing on USA? Appears to be the only documented copy online whatsoever. what about all those label holes in the discography, plus probably the other titles you google in the discography that don't turn up in a search? I'm sure it's rare, I'm just saying that there are a ton of rare things on the label so it's hard to judge "rarest".
Guest meaty Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 what about all those label holes in the discography, plus probably the other titles you google in the discography that don't turn up in a search? I'm sure it's rare, I'm just saying that there are a ton of rare things on the label so it's hard to judge "rarest". god damnit, this is the rarest record in existance!
Weingarden Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Not at all Matt, it is more like a fast version of Sam Cooke`s "Wonderfuld World" done in a Buster & James or Don & Ron (to get back that Louisiana feel ) type. I had this over fifteen odd years ago c/up and named the tune when we did the label back on raresoulforum.co.uk several years ago. It is missing in the other than that fantastic USA discography that was published once in Shades Of Soul. I truly believe this record is one of the harder releases on USA. I had several (well, two...) IDOLS and Dorothy Berries on USA but still only ever found one of these. Marc i stand by my statement! sounds NOTHING like "wonderful world" except that yes, the verses begin with the words "don't know much about..." Edited March 5, 2008 by weingarden
boba Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 The Mod Singers on Savern is different WRONG AGAIN SUCKER, I just checked and even the plates are the same as the deadwax is identical. You need to retire now and give me all your records. Here:
The Yank Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 I don't know Meaty, the rarest record in existence ??? Just got off e-bay and saw "Yes We Can Can" by the Pointer Sisters which the seller describes as "mega rare" !
Guest meaty Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 obviously I'm joking. Check this one out... https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...A:IT&ih=016 Seller spent more than the records worth on Gallery and Featured Item and all that extra shit, on a whooped copy of a common record. I don't know Meaty, the rarest record in existence ??? Just got off e-bay and saw "Yes We Can Can" by the Pointer Sisters which the seller describes as "mega rare" !
Marc Forrest Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 i stand by my statement! sounds NOTHING like "wonderful world" except that yes, the verses begin with the words "don't know much about..." Dear Matt, I said "...like a version of"...however, people hear and describe dfferently so much I have learnt over the years. Most important is you have the 45 anyway.
Weingarden Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Dear Matt, I said "...like a version of"...however, people hear and describe dfferently so much I have learnt over the years. Most important is you have the 45 anyway. i know, "looks like" and "sounds like" statements are so highly subjective....
Pete S Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 I'm afraid I can't see what the fuss is about that Tut Sutton, John Manships raving over it like it was something fantastic, what a drab boring record.
soulsalmon Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 I'm afraid I can't see what the fuss is about that Tut Sutton, John Manships raving over it like it was something fantastic, what a drab boring record. Totally agree with you Pete,Dirge,the delola carmicheal is 100% better but not brilliant Salmon
Pete S Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Totally agree with you Pete,Dirge,the delola carmicheal is 100% better but not brilliant Salmon Tin hat on mate, we'll now get told we've got no taste, tone deaf, don't appreciate good music etc etc... 1
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