can anyone tell me if this is an original or a boot?

  rigs28 said:

can anyone tell me if this is an original or a boot?

A million percent BOOT

  Pete S said:

A million percent BOOT

thanks for that.just bought it on ebay advertised as original.not paid yet.

  rigs28 said:

thanks for that.just bought it on ebay advertised as original.not paid yet.

I saw that mate, nearly emailed the seller but then thought - well maybe it should be the prospetcive buyers who should do the research because the seller certainly doesn't care if he sells a pressing as an original

To support your claim on Ebayh the one below is in the current JM Auction

Came out on Valise same number 6900 two designs thick vinyl light red label as on JM's auction and thiner vinyl deep red label as my example here, big difference in the book value £750.00 thick and £450.00 thin, fantastic record whichever the copy.

Hope this helps you, the copy you posted as Pete stated is a bootleg for sure.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

I disagree with Pete. It's actually a five million per cent boot.

Incidentally, following Mark's post, I've got both the boot and a proper one and my proper one is a much darker red but also quite thick vinyl. Maybe there are three proper ones Mark?

I only rate this at £200 for an original

Mine has an almost wine coloured label - crimson almost.

I think the £400+ valuation is a bit steep.

Am I wrong?

  Mark Bicknell said:

Came out on Valise same number 6900 two designs thick vinyl light red label as on JM's auction and thiner vinyl deep red label as my example here, big difference in the book value £750.00 thick and £450.00 thin, fantastic record whichever the copy.

Hope this helps you, the copy you posted as Pete stated is a bootleg for sure.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Mark,

I found 300 or more, of that design in the Carolinas in the late 70s but we sold out in less than 2 years. So that design isn't particually rare, elusivity is caused by collectors quite rightly keeping them, it sells really well when comes to market.

But the thick vinyl New York FIRST PRESS is decidedly tough to find, can't have had more than 3 of them in my life.

To view the rare first press follow this link:

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/27

To my knowledge there are only the two authentic presses.

John

Edited March 9, 200817 yr by john manship

  john manship said:

Mark,

I found 300 or more, of that design in the Carolinas in the late 70s but we sold out in less than 2 years. So that design isn't particually rare, elusivity is caused by collectors quite rightly keeping them, it sells really well when comes to market.

But the thick vinyl New York FIRST PRESS is decidedly tough to find, can't have had more than 3 of them in my life.

To view the rare first press follow this link:

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/27

To my knowledge there are only the two authentic presses.

John

Hi John

Here is the First Press, I bought it from Soul Bowl

Mentioned as Rarer Thick/Heavy Vinyl copy in the Listing back then too.

Considering the amount of Rare stuff on the Soul Bowl lists back then,

It must have been considered Quite rare at the time, back in the 70's.

Edited March 9, 200817 yr by 45cellar