Harold Melvin - Get Out

[Guest]

Can anyone give me any info on Harold Melvin - Get Out and Let Me Cry on Phil-LA Soul Demo?

Did it come out at the same time as the Landa release or later?

Is it rare?

What does it sell for?

Grateful for any info

Steve

[45cellar]

Can anyone give me any info on Harold Melvin - Get Out and Let Me Cry on Phil-LA Soul Demo?

Did it come out at the same time as the Landa release or later?

Is it rare?

What does it sell for?

Grateful for any info

Steve

Hi Steve

If you have a look on ;

>>> ANORAK'S CORNER <<<

Landa = Local Release

Phil_La_Of_Soul = National Release

The Landa copy is Rarer

Edited March 1, 2008 by 45cellar

[Guest]

Roger

Thanks for the info, I'd assumed as much but just wanted to make sure before I sell it

Thanks

Steve

[bri pinch]

The Landa copy is Rarer

THERE IS ALSO A VERY RARE WEST COAST RELEASE ON LANDA. PLAIN BLACK RELEASE WITH SILVER TEXT ALSO THE ACCOMPANYING WHITE DEMO WITH DELTA NUMBER.

BEST BRI.

[boba]

Can anyone give me any info on Harold Melvin - Get Out and Let Me Cry on Phil-LA Soul Demo?

Did it come out at the same time as the Landa release or later?

Is it rare?

What does it sell for?

Grateful for any info

Steve

The philaofsoul is not just a "national release" it is a reissue of the track from 1975, about 10 years later. "get out" was actually a national hit in the US when it came out, it was probably reissued given the popularity of the group by 1975. In my experience the phil-la of soul is harder to find, there were probably more copies pressed of the original when it was initially a hit. Mayber the philaofsoul one was imported to the Uk and is common there, though, I don't know.

[45cellar]

The philaofsoul is not just a "national release" it is a reissue of the track from 1975, about 10 years later. "get out" was actually a national hit in the US when it came out, it was probably reissued given the popularity of the group by 1975. In my experience the phil-la of soul is harder to find, there were probably more copies pressed of the original when it was initially a hit. Mayber the philaofsoul one was imported to the Uk and is common there, though, I don't know.

To be fair Neither are that easy on a DEMO,

However I found that the Landa Copy is harder to Obtain.

Could be that they are tucked away in collections,

There are 2 Landa Stock copies according to Manships Price Guide.

[boba]

To be fair Neither are that easy on a DEMO,

However I found that the Landa Copy is harder to Obtain.

Could be that they are tucked away in collections,

There are 2 Landa Stock copies according to Manships Price Guide.

sorry, i didn't know you were commenting on demo vs. issue, I have no idea about that, I usually find the landa record (trashed) on issue, although I have found it on demo.

[Guest]

Roger any idea of a price?

My copy would be Mint- but for a name written on the label in felt tip

Thanks

Steve

[45cellar]

sorry, i didn't know you were commenting on demo vs. issue, I have no idea about that, I usually find the landa record (trashed) on issue, although I have found it on demo.

I think that It was a General Phil_La_Of_Soul DEMO V's the Landa Copy.

As to which came out first.

You raised the point Regarding Landa as a National Release.

I never thought of it as such, however, now that this thread has progressed.

2 Different DEMO's & 2 Different Stock Copies.

It becomes more Obvious, thanks for the Information.

[45cellar]

Roger any idea of a price?

My copy would be Mint- but for a name written on the label in felt tip

Thanks

Steve

Not sure on current Value, Manship has had a copy at some time.

>>> LINK <<< Doesn't give a price,

however considers it rare according to the description.

[Guest]

You are a mine of information, cheers mate

[Tony Smith]

The philaofsoul is not just a "national release" it is a reissue of the track from 1975, about 10 years later. "get out" was actually a national hit in the US when it came out, it was probably reissued given the popularity of the group by 1975. In my experience the phil-la of soul is harder to find, there were probably more copies pressed of the original when it was initially a hit. Mayber the philaofsoul one was imported to the Uk and is common there, though, I don't know.

Probably reissued due to it's release on Route records in '75, down to it's popularity on the scene.

[Tony Smith]

Probably reissued due to it's release on Route records in '75, down to it's popularity on the scene.

To recap

Landa-1965-original, Phil-la, etc-re-issues/re-releases

[Guest]

Can anyone give me any info on Harold Melvin - Get Out and Let Me Cry on Phil-LA Soul Demo?

Did it come out at the same time as the Landa release or later?

Is it rare?

What does it sell for?

Grateful for any info

Steve

heres one in vg+ for 8 quid if anyone wants it. pm me ! bloody awful tune!

Edited March 2, 2008 by mossy

[Dave Pinch]

it was issued in 1964 originally and bubbled under the national pop charts at no 124

it was issued on philasoul to tie in with the route uk hit from 1975.

dave

[Ficklefingers]

For those interested, I attach the following for leisurely perusal &/or as part of the 'education' process..

For what it's worth... in my experience the scanned black issue is, at the very least, 'difficult' to aquire - with even ME being able to count on one hand how many times I've come across it in almost twenty years (over a thirty plus year time-scale!). Bearing in mind that my 'nickname' is, really, quite appropriate... that certainly ain't very many!! & a calculator would defo not be required!

I do feel quite certain that, if Boba's observation were correct, the 'market place' would've seen a lot more action on this release, over the years, than there has actually been ?? - regardless of condition too! (Just expressing my sentiments of course..).

I must also confess to not being aware (or not having remembered being, perhaps, more the case!??!) the release on Phil-LA... but that don't count for nothin' really.. just me being the fine, honest, upstanding citizen the police think I am!!

Edited March 2, 2008 by FickleFingers

[Anoraks Corner]

I have a copy of the East Coast black stock copy with the multi-coloured 'bubbles' on it up for sale...at a competitive £50 +P&P >>> LOOK HERE <<<

[boba]

For those interested, I attach the following for leisurely perusal &/or as part of the 'education' process..

For what it's worth... in my experience the scanned black issue is, at the very least, 'difficult' to aquire - with even ME being able to count on one hand how many times I've come across it in almost twenty years (over a thirty plus year time-scale!). Bearing in mind that my 'nickname' is, really, quite appropriate... that certainly ain't very many!! & a calculator would defo not be required!

I do feel quite certain that, if Boba's observation were correct, the 'market place' would've seen a lot more action on this release, over the years, than there has actually been ?? - regardless of condition too! (Just expressing my sentiments of course..).

I must also confess to not being aware (or not having remembered being, perhaps, more the case!??!) the release on Phil-LA... but that don't count for nothin' really.. just me being the fine, honest, upstanding citizen the police think I am!!

Someone already quoted the record's position in the pop charts. "Get Out" made #38 in the Billboard r&b charts in 1965 (debuted on 1/30/1965). This is from the Joel Whitburn book. This means it actually was top 40 r&b for at least a second. I specifically know that this record got some play in Chicago just because i do ocassionally find it (in very bad condition though). Obviously this does not mean the record was a "hit" as in selling millions of copies, it does mean that it got national play at least.

[Keithw]

The Landa copy is Rarer

THERE IS ALSO A VERY RARE WEST COAST RELEASE ON LANDA. PLAIN BLACK RELEASE WITH SILVER TEXT ALSO THE ACCOMPANYING WHITE DEMO WITH DELTA NUMBER.

BEST BRI.

HAVE THE BLACK BUBBLES MULTI COLOUR COPY FOR SALE

M-

Seen @ 50-00 but thats soooooo cheap

want 80-00 if anyone on here wants it m - /or it goes on my list monday

[Chris L]

The Landa copy is Rarer

THERE IS ALSO A VERY RARE WEST COAST RELEASE ON LANDA. PLAIN BLACK RELEASE WITH SILVER TEXT ALSO THE ACCOMPANYING WHITE DEMO WITH DELTA NUMBER.

BEST BRI.

Keith Williams had a copy of that type sale at Stoke on Saturday.

Chris L

[Neil Rushton]

Phil-LA did not just re-issue in 1975.

I was importing from USA and distributing in UK after that and they custom pressed me a quantity, I would say between 1,000 and 2,000, around 1978/79.

Neil

[Sanquine]

heres one in vg+ for 8 quid if anyone wants it. pm me ! bloody awful tune!

I'll second that - alway's disliked it.. tho for reason's beyond my comprehension most seem to like it..

[Pete S]

Phil-LA did not just re-issue in 1975.

I was importing from USA and distributing in UK after that and they custom pressed me a quantity, I would say between 1,000 and 2,000, around 1978/79.

Neil

Neil, that sounds bizarre, how did you think you could sell more than a couple of hundred after it charted 3 years earlier? Must have sold 20,000 on Route.

[Guest]

heres one in vg+ for 8 quid if anyone wants it. pm me ! bloody awful tune!

Amazing, it does not matter which good a record is mentioned on this site, there is always someone who wants to tell everyone they don't like it!!!

[Neil Rushton]

Neil, that sounds bizarre, how did you think you could sell more than a couple of hundred after it charted 3 years earlier? Must have sold 20,000 on Route.

The thing about popular records from that era is that they just kept on selling.

We sold all those copies of "Get Out" and I think we may have gone back for a second lot too - it was the Benny Sigler's we couldn't give away!

We even went to Laurie and got 4,000 custom press of "I'm On My Way" off them AFTER the Casino Classics 3 Before 8 release was deleted.

As an example of the demand in those days, look at The Poppies "There's A Pain In My Heart" custom press on CBS's Columbia Special Products label - we sold 20,000 of that.

And when you think of all the copies of Dobie Gray "Out On The Floor" that were sold on original imports, bootleg imports, Black Magic and Destiny in the 70's - when I licenced it for Inferno in the early 80's it sold 30,000 plus on two different sevens, plus pic disc seven and 12".

All the Best,

Neil

[Steve G]

it was the Benny Sigler's we couldn't give away!

Neil

And yet the B side of this sounds great now!

[Guest TONY ROUNCE]

The thing about popular records from that era is that they just kept on selling.

We sold all those copies of "Get Out" and I think we may have gone back for a second lot too - it was the Benny Sigler's we couldn't give away!

We even went to Laurie and got 4,000 custom press of "I'm On My Way" off them AFTER the Casino Classics 3 Before 8 release was deleted.

As an example of the demand in those days, look at The Poppies "There's A Pain In My Heart" custom press on CBS's Columbia Special Products label - we sold 20,000 of that.

And when you think of all the copies of Dobie Gray "Out On The Floor" that were sold on original imports, bootleg imports, Black Magic and Destiny in the 70's - when I licenced it for Inferno in the early 80's it sold 30,000 plus on two different sevens, plus pic disc seven and 12".

All the Best,

Neil

Blimey, Neil, think of all the nice looking gold discs you could have on your wall for selling 20,000+ copies of anything nowadays!

I don't know how I'd missed it but, surprisingly, I'd never seen this on Phil L.A before (to be fair I'd never actually looked for it!). Am I alone in thinking how much more aesthetically pleasing it looks with a fishbone at the top of the label, rather than a bunch of bubbles?

Edited April 2, 2008 by TONY ROUNCE

[Guest Ivor Jones]

Blimey, Neil, think of all the nice looking gold discs you could have on your wall for selling 20,000+ copies of anything nowadays!

I don't know how I'd missed it but, surprisingly, I'd never seen this on Phil L.A before (to be fair I'd never actually looked for it!). Am I alone in thinking how much more aesthetically pleasing it looks with a fishbone at the top of the label, rather than a bunch of bubbles?

YES TONE, YOU ARE

HOPE YOURE ALL KEEPING WELL COOKIE BOY,

IVOR

[Guest mel brat]

Just a thought, but wasn't it bootlegged as a facsimile "LANDA demo" also? That may account for seeing less of the black label "issues" nowadays!

Edited April 3, 2008 by mel brat

[Guest]

Amazing, it does not matter which good a record is mentioned on this site, there is always someone who wants to tell everyone they don't like it!!!

Thats why its called a forum? And I sold one of my 45s that I dont like to somebody who wanted it.

So whats the problem?

I dont like it............do you want it? SIMPLE ?

[Anoraks Corner]

I have a copy of the East Coast black stock copy with the multi-coloured 'bubbles' on it up for sale...at a competitive £50 +P&P >>> LOOK HERE <<<

Still available..and still only £50!!!