Simsy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Been some talk of late about this record and that being ear damage, but with thanks to the mighty members of Soul Source we are now able to hear possibly the worst Northern track ever! First saw this in a Pat Brady list circa 1990 - The Four Chaps - True Lovers/Will You Or Wont You. Therfore a legit Northern track I'd say. Plug side is really not bad, but the flip can't be the same group? As a mate of mine said, it sounds like a bunch of East End barrow boys mucking about... See what you think, but I defy anyone to come up with anything worse than this! Plug Side (not bad) MP3 clip of b side 'Will You Or Wont You (very very bad). The_Four_Chaps___will_you_or_wont_you.mp3 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 YES THE B SIDE IS BAD CHRIS It's not even soulful. Or anywhere near soulful. What I really need is for Pete Smith to admit this is (in his opinion) a worse record than the Carstairs, because this IS the worst record ever!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!! Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL. When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential. This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
good angel Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 What about the instrumental, Fabular Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!! Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL. When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential. This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished! Spot on,loads a shite flips all over the show is true lovers same as Vogues if so like Vogues better,better try the flip might be worser than above Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Ian, truely shocking, easily the worst I've ever heard, but..... Was it ever played out? I cannot possibly imagine anybody having the front to play this, and as you say the other side seems to be from a totally different group. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Md Records Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Apparantly "Four Chaps - Will You Or Won't You" is "The Fenways spoofing the British Invasion sound complete with fake accents" Des Parker Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Mark Holmes Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Now thats the ultimate sphincter spasm sound Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Apparantly "Four Chaps - Will You Or Won't You" is "The Fenways spoofing the British Invasion sound complete with fake accents" Des Parker Sounds plausible, same label, but even allowing for a "spoof" it's still shockingly bad. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Sounds plausible, same label, but even allowing for a "spoof" it's still shockingly bad. Not as bad as "cath-the-drals" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Md Records Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 As someone who deals in all genres of Soul, I try and see the positive in all tunes, from all eras, but this is bad, even if we judge it as a "spoof". I cannot believe that this has ever been played in any type of Northern event and cannot believe that anyone would class this as "Northern" in any shape or form! Des Parker Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete Eccles Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Remember the flip of Rita and the Tiarras on destiny ( dunno if its same flip on Dore) by accident, now that takes some beating Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 It's not even soulful. Or anywhere near soulful. What I really need is for Pete Smith to admit this is (in his opinion) a worse record than the Carstairs, because this IS the worst record ever!!! Never gonna happen. Such a record does not exist. But on this one, True Lovers is the Northern side, never even heard mention of the other side to be honest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest recordman Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER Absolute load of Pants Edited February 28, 2008 by recordman Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Andreas Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 nice topic ........for me the worst northern soul track ever is Phil Flowers & The Underdogs "Discontented" and can be found on Goldmine´s "For Milllionaires Only 4". I have no idea why Tim Brown put this on a Northern Soul CD ...this is definitely not SOUL it´s crap ! (IMO) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Worst Northern? I still haven't heard anything as bad as Joey Delorenzo. The search continues... Ironically you have IMO one of the best songs ever as your avatar Ian Edited February 28, 2008 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER Absolute load of Pants One of Simsys faves........... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER Absolute load of Pants A storming uptempo dancer... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!! Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL. When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential. This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished! As already stated both sides listed in Pat Brady sales list. With respect it is not you or I that decides what is Northern. That is down to the DJ and the dancers. Not that anyone would ever dream of playing this out, but it's there all the same. If you want to split hairs you could say it's the B side of a Northern track. Wouldn't worry yourself too much about this being anyones's fave record, most of our members have better taste than that. Edited February 28, 2008 by Ian Sims Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 One of Simsys faves........... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest kid mohair Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 About as bad as prince phillip mitchell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 if you like the side you bought it for and was doing a spot and got distracted and played this flip could you imagine the horror on the faces of those dancers its got to be worth a play just to see their reaction fooking terrible tune or whatever its classed as Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think you should play this out next time you djing Simhead then it it can be official!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 I think you should play this out next time you djing Simhead then it it can be official!! Chaps yes? Not City Lights.. Two on Ebay at the moment.. Fookin tempted I tell thee. Was said above WYOWY may indeed be by another group? Just nice to have some recognition of it's awfulness after all these years of suffering... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Souljazera Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 halos are for angels blanch carter ...HATE IT closely followed by PANIC reperata & delrons a youth club fave!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 About as bad as prince phillip mitchell. True. Terrible record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 halos are for angels blanch carter ...HATE IT closely followed by PANIC reperata & delrons a youth club fave!! Spot on with Blanche Carter...but how can anyone not like Panic? Gives me the shivers if I haven't heard it for a long time, reminds me of the very first time I heard it, someone had come back from Wigan and taped the night (this is a few months before I went) and I heard it on there, complete with clapping...fantastic times Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wilxy Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Spot on with Blanche Carter...but how can anyone not like Panic? Gives me the shivers if I haven't heard it for a long time, reminds me of the very first time I heard it, someone had come back from Wigan and taped the night (this is a few months before I went) and I heard it on there, complete with clapping...fantastic times Pete for my "15 minutes of fame" (so to speak as a perspective "record dealer") I actually found 7 copies of Reparata and the Delrons- Panic on UK Bell (if my memory serves me right) in the back of a toy shop called Hurleys in Pontypridd,back in the 70's amongst other things......looking back I wish I'd bought the toys.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Apparantly "Four Chaps - Will You Or Won't You" is "The Fenways spoofing the British Invasion sound complete with fake accents" Des Parker So a different group on either side? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 what about scratty terrible tune Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 There are dozens of bad Northern records too many to mention one or two that do spring to mind are Ben Zine - Village Of Tears, The Present - Many's The Slip etc. etc. but the one that stands head and shoulders above the rest for me is the totally naff Blanch Carter - Halos Are For Angels, aweful record. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 halos are for angels blanch carter ...HATE IT closely followed by PANIC reperata & delrons a youth club fave!! Sorry missed your post but totally with you on Blanch Carter aweful record. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rich Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Been some talk of late about this record and that being ear damage, but with thanks to the mighty members of Soul Source we are now able to hear possibly the worst Northern track ever! First saw this in a Pat Brady list circa 1990 - The Four Chaps - True Lovers/Will You Or Wont You. Therfore a legit Northern track I'd say. Plug side is really not bad, but the flip can't be the same group? As a mate of mine said, it sounds like a bunch of East End barrow boys mucking about... See what you think, but I defy anyone to come up with anything worse than this! Plug Side (not bad) MP3 clip of b side 'Will You Or Wont You (very very bad). The_Four_Chaps___will_you_or_wont_you.mp3 lady in green - gives me the shivers just mentioning it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Harry Crosby Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 ESKO AFFAIR-SALT AND PEPPER whats that all about then? remember hearing that one at casino SH*TE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 As already stated both sides listed in Pat Brady sales list. With respect it is not you or I that decides what is Northern. That is down to the DJ and the dancers. Not that anyone would ever dream of playing this out, but it's there all the same. If you want to split hairs you could say it's the B side of a Northern track. Wouldn't worry yourself too much about this being anyones's fave record, most of our members have better taste than that. POPPYCOCK. "not down to you or I that decides what is Northern" - What a load of twaddle. I don't care who has it listed. . I'm gonna play Scaffold - Lilly The Pink, and guess what - if one person dances to it, hey presto it's Northern! True Lovers, now there's a nice tune - Northern too. -Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) SORRY MR.SIMS! You are wrong.Four Chaps -"true lovers" is a reallly nice tune,good dancer for the midtempo crew(imho). The other side should never be played and therefore your membership to the Soul Police will be revoked with immediate effect!!!.(PUT IT DOWN TO "POST EDUARDO SYNDROME")> PANIC-R & TD'S,is a classic. 3 records are tying for "worst ever"... SIDNEY BARNES-STANDING ON SOLIDSH*T DJ GENESIS-TRIBUTE TO SOMEBODY OR OTHER and the worst till last.....KEN (SAFESTYLE)BARLOW-FOURTH WINDOW FROM THE LEFT. Edited February 29, 2008 by KevH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
22ndsoul Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Funny you should mention the flip side to true lovers,talking about it to my mate only last week about how awful it was. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Md Records Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) In reply to an earlier post, the "Four Chaps" ARE the "Fenways" doing a bit of a tongue in cheek spoof, bearing in mind that "True Lovers" was possibly intended as the "B" side, though the joke has been lost on me, for one! Des Parker Edited February 29, 2008 by SOUL.INC Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Just because one side is Northern Soul it does NOT follow that the other side is!! Will You Or Won't You is NOT NORTHERN SOUL. When these records where made, often they would try to appeal to different listeners by putting different styles of music on the respective sides for maximum sales potential. This negative kind of post usually starts a slagging match, because it does not take long until someones favorite record is rubished! Agree wid ya comments 100% Ivan (Blimey! me an you agreeing! dont tell the Bothy Boys on sunday nite! ) steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andyrattigan Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Worst Northern track ever in my opinion is: MOONLIGHT MUSIC AND YOU- LAURA GREENE. I'd rather drink from a bucket of vomit than have to sit through the entirety of this track. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andyrattigan Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 JERRY NAYLOR CITY LIGHTS TOWER Absolute load of Pants Each to their own, but love City Lights. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Abbott Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Been some talk of late about this record and that being ear damage, but with thanks to the mighty members of Soul Source we are now able to hear possibly the worst Northern track ever! First saw this in a Pat Brady list circa 1990 - The Four Chaps - True Lovers/Will You Or Wont You. Therfore a legit Northern track I'd say. Plug side is really not bad, but the flip can't be the same group? As a mate of mine said, it sounds like a bunch of East End barrow boys mucking about... See what you think, but I defy anyone to come up with anything worse than this! Plug Side (not bad) MP3 clip of b side 'Will You Or Wont You (very very bad). The_Four_Chaps___will_you_or_wont_you.mp3 Ian... True Lovers is a great record - this is the B side, and just cos it is listed on a site does not mean it is up for that side;' and not any where near what 'we' want - unless 'we' like Hermins Hermits which is what it sounds like...there are many bad 'other' side to good norther records. many of them... but to highlight a B side is unfair... I agree with others, lets stick to the sides which are supposed to be northern... Blance Carter is truely the worst record played on the NS scene and it makes me want to puke Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Scarborosoul Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 NO NO NO NO NO NO.........The above is deffo pants BUT will someone plz put up an mp3 of the worst ever no matter what comes and goes::::::: JULIE HARRIS - The PLAYGROUND there never has been and never will be anything so unsoulful yet labelled as NS!!!!!! Rick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) NO NO NO NO NO NO.........The above is deffo pants BUT will someone plz put up an mp3 of the worst ever no matter what comes and goes::::::: JULIE HARRIS - The PLAYGROUND there never has been and never will be anything so unsoulful yet labelled as NS!!!!!! Rick Anita Harris............doh!! Edited February 29, 2008 by ken Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Ian... True Lovers is a great record - this is the B side, and just cos it is listed on a site does not mean it is up for that side;' and not any where near what 'we' want - unless 'we' like Hermins Hermits which is what it sounds like...there are many bad 'other' side to good norther records. many of them... but to highlight a B side is unfair... I agree with others, lets stick to the sides which are supposed to be northern... Blance Carter is truely the worst record played on the NS scene and it makes me want to puke I hear what you say Dave, I do. But I've needed to vent on this for some time. This record is out there, it does exist, it is the b side of a half way not too bad northern track. Because of it's Dick Van Dykeness, it needed to be outed. It has been, so how ever many posts we are in now, as far as I'm concerned at least, it's job done! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest JJMMWGDuPree Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 A spoof is merely a cash-in that didn't fool anyone and failed. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Scarborosoul Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 OK Ken you know who I meant I was just so angry thinking about it lol Rick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Bazza Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 lady in green - gives me the shivers just mentioning it. Flip it for a great tune "heart your made of stone" brill Bazza Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I hear what you say Dave, I do. But I've needed to vent on this for some time. This record is out there, it does exist, it is the b side of a half way not too bad northern track. Because of it's Dick Van Dykeness, it needed to be outed. It has been, so how ever many posts we are in now, as far as I'm concerned at least, it's job done! What you on,should pack it in Simsy...........If ya want Dicky van dykes,bugger orf to Dicksource tell you what i`ll post the flips of Wigans chosen few or something stupid like that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 What you on,should pack it in Simsy...........If ya want Dicky van dykes,bugger orf to Dicksource tell you what i`ll post the flips of Wigans chosen few or something stupid like that. What are you on about? You've got the wrong end of the stick. Unless this is another needless wind up post. Again. Sigh. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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