Guest Gavin Page Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Not sure if any body has posted this ? If you have Sorry ! But I really like this
chrissie Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Not sure if any body has posted this ? If you have Sorry ! But I really like this There was a DUffy thread running somewhere a few weeks ago. Great track The girls got talent QoFxx
Guest Bernadette Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 I like it too...better than the usual pop pap we are subjected to...here's the previous discussion thread https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.p...=duffy&st=0
Guest Les F Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 She's tops if ya ask me, saw her on Jonathan Ross while at work Friday, very good (Duffy that is not Ross, he's a twat!) and it struck me that she sounds an awful lot like Carmel from way back. What happened to her?
Peter99 Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Yeah I think she's great. There's another song and vid with the dancers in - I think that one's much better.
Guest Trevski Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) She's tops if ya ask me, saw her on Jonathan Ross while at work Friday, very good (Duffy that is not Ross, he's a twat!) and it struck me that she sounds an awful lot like Carmel from way back. What happened to her? Same thing as will happen to Duffy. Disapear without trace when they get fed up of trying to be trendy by singing 'retro-soul/pop'. Don't like her at all, not a patch on Joss Stone, and she's not that good. Fine pop music, but nothing to do with soul whatsoever, IMHO. Thats not because she's white, or a girl, or British, as Helen Shapiro, could sing soul, in my book, as could Dusty S. But the current trend for making soul influenced tracks like this and WHINEhouse, etc are just that. Soul influenced but not soul. Edited February 10, 2008 by Trevski
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Same thing as will happen to Duffy. Disapear without trace when they get fed up of trying to be trendy by singing 'retro-soul/pop'. Don't like her at all, not a patch on Joss Stone, and she's not that good. Fine pop music, but nothing to do with soul whatsoever, IMHO. Thats not because she's white, or a girl, or British, as Helen Shapiro, could sing soul, in my book, as could Dusty S. But the current trend for making soul influenced tracks like this and WHINEhouse, etc are just that. Soul influenced but not soul. On the Joss Stone thing, yes Joss BIG voice, but she buggered off to US. I also think Roisin Murphy could be singing Mercy, similar voices. Marco / Elaine wots Roisin doing nowadays?
Guest ang b Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) The dancer in the white T-shirt with the mod hair cut he looks the spit of Liam from manchester (hes irish i think) Todarnsoulfull, hes a good dancer aswell Edited February 18, 2008 by ang b
Guest ang b Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Just recieved a PM telling me it is him well how fantastic is that "Well done Liam its great"
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Just recieved a PM telling me it is him well how fantastic is that "Well done Liam its great" They were asking for dancers - males only!
Reg Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Just recieved a PM telling me it is him well how fantastic is that "Well done Liam its great" Ah I thought it was him! The video is quite good, seen it a couple of times flicking through Sky.
Simsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Not sure if any body has posted this ? Big old debate in AATS Jan 25th - the dukester https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=64928 It's not bad I spose, easy on the ear etc. However like Trevski said I think it's just a trendy fad that will be gone in no time. How come no female dancers I wonder?
Seano Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 It's not bad I spose, easy on the ear etc. However like Trevski said I think it's just a trendy fad that will be gone in no time. How come no female dancers I wonder? Not just Liam featured dancing; the guy with the grey top and shaven head looks and dances a lot like Keb Darge. Personally, I like the track.
KevH Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 i like it!.Do you think Duffy will be on a 7 incher or 12 incher soon?? . Vinyl i mean,,,,,you dirty b*ggers....................
Guest SteveJohnston Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 i like it!.Do you think Duffy will be on a 7 incher or 12 incher soon?? . Vinyl i mean,,,,,you dirty b*ggers.................... The place where i buy new records not soul from told me it's due out at the end of Feb! Steve J
Guest nubes Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I quite like the record....makes a change to hear something gritty rather than the Girls Aloud etc crap which passes for so called pop music these days,,,Delxxx
Simsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I didn't realize this was number one. Just shows what's possible with a cool vid eh?
Guest rachel Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 OK I finally made myself listen to it - nice voice, but other than that I think it's very repetitive 60s-influenced pop very much cashing in on Amy Whineyhouse's popularity doing the same sort of thing. No doubt it will get plays at soul nights but will probably have even less lifespan than the likes of the Frank Popp tracks, Sven Zetterburg, that sort of thing. Yawn.
45cellar Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I quite like the record....makes a change to hear something gritty rather than the Girls Aloud etc crap which passes for so called pop music these days,,,Delxxx I've gotta agree Del, Hope she continues in the same style. I wonder if there will be an Album similar to Back To Black, following the success that the Album has had for Amy Winehouse. For the Future, it would be good to hear some of these Artists get back to the Roots of Soul, and record some gutsy, gritty raw stuff. There are many fantastic records to cover.
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 OK I finally made myself listen to it - nice voice, but other than that I think it's very repetitive 60s-influenced pop very much cashing in on Amy Whineyhouse's popularity doing the same sort of thing. No doubt it will get plays at soul nights but will probably have even less lifespan than the likes of the Frank Popp tracks, Sven Zetterburg, that sort of thing. Yawn. _______________________________________________ Personally,I couldnt give a monkeys re the so-called "lifespan" of the tune.....all I know is, I really love "Mercy" its dead catchy AND if it gives the 6T's soul scene and one of my mates a bit of good publicity ("what s the craic Liam?",( aka "Spinny boy" )) who gives? On the subject of Frank Popp tho....Hip Teens still gets played regularly at the dos I go to (all over) AND If I'm in the mood I'll dance (its still as catchy as it ever was n SOOOOO much better than Girls ALoud as Del, in an uncynical manner, rightly pointed out! Carmel yea...loved her,off to do a bit of research on that one now!
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 _______________________________________________ Personally,I couldnt give a monkeys re the so-called "lifespan" of the tune.....all I know is, I really love "Mercy" its dead catchy AND if it gives the 6T's soul scene and one of my mates a bit of good publicity ("what s the craic Liam?",( aka "Spinny boy" )) who gives? On the subject of Frank Popp tho....Hip Teens still gets played regularly at the dos I go to (all over) AND If I'm in the mood I'll dance (its still as catchy as it ever was n SOOOOO much better than Girls ALoud as Del, in an uncynical manner, rightly pointed out! Carmel yea...loved her,off to do a bit of research on that one now! this thread will go on and on but it's a change from modern V 60's ! lol frank pop big hit in Germany and switzerland loads of radio play there and both chooons still getting spins out and about and the floor is still busy when they are played
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 She's tops if ya ask me, saw her on Jonathan Ross while at work Friday, very good (Duffy that is not Ross, he's a twat!) and it struck me that she sounds an awful lot like Carmel from way back. What happened to her? Hiya....your post prompted me to delve into my musical memory/past n found this...(I bought "Bad Day" And Sally etc in the 80's) Back in the 80s, in pop music, we bravely made it all up as we went along. Nothing was too great a challenge. Everything was an inspiration; blues, ska, rock, latin - and jazz. Musical enthusiasm often meant that you played first, then began learning. As this fine performance will demonstrate, there's been a lot of learning going on. Like it's nearby watering hole, Cleethorpes, Scunthorpe in Lincolnshire might be better known as the butt of every third rate comedian's routine. Hearing Carmel McCourt for the first time, they soon took Scunthorpe off the gag sheet. Carmel was well into her teens when she left Lincolnshire for the more artistic climate of Manchester, where she met bass player Jim Parris. Jim's diverse musical influences included King Crimson and Duke Ellington and a strong interest in African music; together with Jim's cousin Gerry Darby, they formed Carmel and began a long career of defying definition. .To begin with, it was the cool simplicity of the stripped-down string bass of Jim Parris, Gerry Darby's drums and Carmel Mc Court's soaring vocals, which stood out from the new pop crowd. They soon caught the attention of London Records. Their first album, The Drum is Everything, produced by Mike Thorne, was soon in the top 20 album chart and included the two top twenty singles Bad Day and More, More, More. By 1985 Carmel was voted Best Jazz Singer at the Messina Festival in Italy. Their next album, The Falling (1986) saw them working with the legendary Brian Eno and featured, as a result of Jim Parris's adventurous enthusiasm, African percussionists. It rapidly went gold and the single Sally sold an astonishing half million copies. By the late 80s Carmel's range of styles and repertoire had broadened out to include everything from jazz and reggae, to blues, R&B and gospel. Carmel may have risen to initial prominence in the age of wide shoulder pads and pop glamour, but there is a rugged confidence and indestructibility in their artistic approach which has ensured a huge, permanent following, especially in Europe. 1991 saw them working with acclaimed engineer John Timperley famed for his sessions with Duke Ellington and Charles Mingus. The result was the stunning album, Good News, (1992) produced by Jim Parris and recorded completely live in Germany. In Britain, Ronnie Scott's was a natural venue in 1997 for Live At Ronnie Scott's, reminding fans just what a treasure we have here. Live performance has always been central to CARMEL'S work and this fine DVD captures them with a superb mix of favourites. Carmel and Jim are still the core of the band, Gerry having retired from live performance. CARMEL have always attracted the very best musicians to perform with them, (Sophie Hastings on drums is a fine example) and this soulful mix of jazz, R&B and soul covers just about every popular musical genre you could wish for. Not many artists can offer a set which encompasses Bob Dylan, Abdullah Ibrahim, Smokey Robinson and Duke Ellington to such a startling, original standard. There's no band quite like CARMEL Soul, commitment and a continuing sense of adventure all combine and ride roughshod over any remaining musical boundaries, offering us here, courtesy of modern technology, a visual and aural feast which at the very least ought to have you kicking off your shoes and cutting a rug in front of the telly. Yesterday, Scunthorpe - today, the World. All we can ask of this fine outfit is More, More, More! Filmed & Recorded at: Cargo, Shoreditch, 30th October 2002 Check out :www.britishcharthits.com/shop.asp?artistid=4 for video footage of Carmel singing Bad Day, Sally etc!
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 There are many fantastic records to cover. ...let's hope she doesn't find out about any of them... Sorry, Rog', couldn't resist. Hope all's well, and that Duffy is just a momentary lapse in good taste for you
Guest rachel Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 _______________________________________________ Personally,I couldnt give a monkeys re the so-called "lifespan" of the tune.....all I know is, I really love "Mercy" its dead catchy AND if it gives the 6T's soul scene and one of my mates a bit of good publicity ("what s the craic Liam?",( aka "Spinny boy" )) who gives? On the subject of Frank Popp tho....Hip Teens still gets played regularly at the dos I go to (all over) AND If I'm in the mood I'll dance (its still as catchy as it ever was n SOOOOO much better than Girls ALoud as Del, in an uncynical manner, rightly pointed out! Carmel yea...loved her,off to do a bit of research on that one now! I think it's acceptable to be cynical about something you don't particularly care for! I haven't heard Frank Popp for ages, did like some of the tracks initially but bored of them very quickly, I must be going to the wrong (or should I say right) places.
Pete S Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 She sounds like an X Factor auditionee. Who didn't make the top 12.
45cellar Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 ...let's hope she doesn't find out about any of them... Sorry, Rog', couldn't resist. Hope all's well, and that Duffy is just a momentary lapse in good taste for you Hi Tony Yes, all is well thanks. At work we have Local radio chart stuff blasting out, over and over. Same songs repeated from a Playlist, hour in, hour out, again and again. It's just nice to hear something closer to my kind of music.
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) I think it's acceptable to be cynical about something you don't particularly care for! I haven't heard Frank Popp for ages, did like some of the tracks initially but bored of them very quickly, I must be going to the wrong (or should I say right) places. No Rachel,neither right or wrong, since musical taste (as this thread and many others on this site prove/have proven) is entirely subjective...you're entitled to your personal opinion (albeit a somewhat cynical one as you admitted) as am I and all the other fellow soulsourcers who like the Duffy Track/those of a similar genre! Edited February 18, 2008 by Delasoul
Tabs Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 _______________________________________________ Personally,I couldnt give a monkeys re the so-called "lifespan" of the tune.....all I know is, I really love "Mercy" its dead catchy AND if it gives the 6T's soul scene and one of my mates a bit of good publicity ("what s the craic Liam?",( aka "Spinny boy" )) who gives? On the subject of Frank Popp tho....Hip Teens still gets played regularly at the dos I go to (all over) AND If I'm in the mood I'll dance (its still as catchy as it ever was n SOOOOO much better than Girls ALoud as Del, in an uncynical manner, rightly pointed out! Carmel yea...loved her,off to do a bit of research on that one now! I've Already heard Mercy played out, but to be fair it was done as a bit of banter. Good pop record with 60's influences but in reality no more than that. I'm still hearing Hip Teens as well, but God those crass lyrics really fcuk me off. Nice avatar Gail, reminds me of someone
Guest rachel Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 No Rachel,neither right or wrong, since musical taste (as this thread and many others on this site prove/have proven) is entirely subjective...you're entitled to your personal opinion (albeit a somewhat cynical one as you admitted) as am I and all the other fellow soulsourcers who like the Duffy Track/those of a similar genre! Well, the wrong ones to hear the likes of Frank Popp still being played, and therefore the right ones for me! Thanks for putting my mind at rest that I am (and everyone else is) entitled to an opinion, I'd never have thought that was allowed on a thread that asked "what do you think?"
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) I've Already heard Mercy played out, but to be fair it was done as a bit of banter. Good pop record with 60's influences but in reality no more than that. I'm still hearing Hip Teens as well, but God those crass lyrics really fcuk me off. Nice avatar Gail, reminds me of someone Which just goes to show I would refer the gentleman to my reply to Rachel thus: 'musical taste (as this thread and many others on this site prove/have proven) is entirely subjective... & you're entitled to your personal opinion Tabs ....(even if it is wrong!....JOKE! ) Edited February 18, 2008 by Delasoul
Guest Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) Well, the wrong ones to hear the likes of Frank Popp still being played, and therefore the right ones for me! Thanks for putting my mind at rest that I am (and everyone else is) entitled to an opinion, I'd never have thought that was allowed on a thread that asked "what do you think?" And I'd never have thought that a moderator on a public forum could plunge to such sarcastic depths (it being the lowest form of wit as I'm sure you are also aware!) Totally unnecessary (in my opinion!) but I'll leave it at that,(unless, for some reason you choose to take the thread any further off topic?!?) Edited February 18, 2008 by Delasoul
Guest Bearsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I see Duffy on TV this morning and to be honest she can sing to me in bed all day bloody long
Tabs Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I see Duffy on TV this morning and to be honest she can sing to me in bed all day bloody long But you are judging her on different criteria from everyone else - perv
Tabs Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Which just goes to show I would refer the gentleman to my reply to Rachel thus: 'musical taste (as this thread and many others on this site prove/have proven) is entirely subjective... & you're entitled to your personal opinion Tabs ....(even if it is wrong!....JOKE! ) Gail you are absolutely correct that musical taste is subjective. Like I said it's a good pop record but with little relevance to the soul scene. I'll debate it with you over a few JD's. C U soon.
Guest Bearsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 But you are judging her on different criteria from everyone else - perv perving first and formost Tabs as i ever do i think its a great tune going by todays standards and deserves to be number 1 in the pop charts no its not a soul record aimed at the soul scene is it its just a great tune sung by a great looking fit cutie But when Butch plays it you watch everyone rave on about it then go on Butch i dare you
Tabs Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 perving first and formost Tabs as i ever do i think its a great tune going by todays standards and deserves to be number 1 in the pop charts no its not a soul record aimed at the soul scene is it its just a great tune sung by a great looking fit cutie But when Butch plays it you watch everyone rave on about it then go on Butch i dare you In a nutshell - pop song by a fit cutie. No more no less.
Guest Bearsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 In a nutshell - pop song by a fit cutie. No more no less. its frightening how people cant wait to slate anything if it aint the real rare soul mccoy ok a few lads from the northern scene did some fantastic dancing for the video but it dont mean its aimed at the northern scene does it she is fit as fook and that should be enough for any male soulie to go out and buy the single imho
Tabs Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 1) its frightening how people cant wait to slate anything if it aint the real rare soul mccoy 2) ok a few lads from the northern scene did some fantastic dancing for the video but it dont mean its aimed at the northern scene does it 3) she is fit as fook and that should be enough for any male soulie to go out and buy the single imho 1) I'm not slating it, my previous posts clearly stated it was a good pop record. Just not soul imo. 2) I remember Wigans Ovation - nuff said 3) Yes shes fit but hardly a reason for buying the record.
Guest Bearsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 1) I'm not slating it, my previous posts clearly stated it was a good pop record. Just not soul imo. did i say you have slated it 2) I remember Wigans Ovation - nuff said remember it, you still playing it Tabs 3) Yes shes fit but hardly a reason for buying the record. i would buy the dvd if it came out
KevH Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 if Amy W and Duffy had a mud wrestle,who'd win??.
Mike Lofthouse Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Good article on the subject in the Observer this week...along the lines ... What a shame, though, that brains and other important body parts - ears, guts, gristle, balls, belly, soul, that kind of thing - have also seemingly vanished from female pop's body politic in the wake of Winehouse's success. Every record label is chasing their own Amy - preferably a white one and one without all that ink and crack. (If you are black, British and - say - called Estelle, you have to take your retro soul-pop stylings to America to be given a proper hearing.) Suitable candidates are being fast-tracked into tidy marketing synergies and given generous press coverage. All these second- and third-generation Amys are, without exception, easier on the ear and a damn sight less trouble than Winehouse herself. Never understood the obsession on this list with white artists trying to sound black...why not just listen to music that sounds good? Mike
Guest Bearsy Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 if Amy W and Duffy had a mud wrestle,who'd win??. all us blokes i reckon
Guest rogerblush Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 I think that it is a great track and I am looking forward to listening to the album
Guest Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 (edited) _______________________________________________ Personally,I couldnt give a monkeys re the so-called "lifespan" of the tune.....all I know is, I really love "Mercy" its dead catchy AND if it gives the 6T's soul scene and one of my mates a bit of good publicity ("what s the craic Liam?",( aka "Spinny boy" )) who gives? On the subject of Frank Popp tho....Hip Teens still gets played regularly at the dos I go to (all over) AND If I'm in the mood I'll dance (its still as catchy as it ever was n SOOOOO much better than Girls ALoud as Del, in an uncynical manner, rightly pointed out! Carmel yea...loved her,off to do a bit of research on that one now! Hi ya, long time no see! Anyway, I agree Mercy is 'catchy' and I also agree with '6ts' scene 'good publicity' fed up with hearing about Wigan! Frank Popp, yes 'catchy' and again sometimes Ill dance to it sometimes I dont - prob depends if Im knackered from dancing to other tunes or not! Each to their own, we all have our own opinions, thats whats so good and if people dont agree with me - thats fine too as its their opinion only. k Edited February 19, 2008 by hertssoulgirl
Guest Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 The place where i buy new records not soul from told me it's due out at the end of Feb! Steve J love this track..... its out on 25th February limited edition on 7". Mine on order....... luv Betty x
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 if Amy W and Duffy had a mud wrestle,who'd win??. ...more to the point, who'd care
KevH Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 ...more to the point, who'd care .....says he with the nice avatar .
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 .....says he with the nice avatar . ...'Tis Miss Dana Gillespie in all her 1960s pomp - a comely lass, with a wonderful set of... ...curtains.
KevH Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 ...'Tis Miss Dana Gillespie in all her 1960s pomp - a comely lass, with a wonderful set of... ...curtains. Proper woman,not like these new diva's!!.
Guest Fatius Bumius Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 I like it, probably buy it as well. My 19 year old daughter listened to it a while ago and said 'I like it BUT it sounds like that northern soul stuff you listen too'. Shown her the clip on U-Tube and she said "They're even doing THE dance!" She's got it on her Ipod along with Johnny Maestro - I'm Stepping Out Of The Picture & Castaways - Liar Liar, find me a connection please.
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