hi all, recieved an original copy of "the sharpets - lost in a world of a dream" today cleaned it put it on the

deck and then WOW what a sound and quality, after owning a copy of the bootleg from the late 70s

uptil i got rid a few years ago the quality of sound from the original to that boot was amazing!!

the louder i played it the better it sounded with no lose of fidelity.

so have you owned/own a bootleg/counterfiet that you have replaced with the original copy and

saw a total difference in the quality? any examples?

oh yer another one i remember was that billy arnell-tough girl boot bloody awefull sound quality!!

regards

russ

  russoul1 said:

hi all, recieved an original copy of "the sharpets - lost in a world of a dream" today cleaned it put it on the

deck and then WOW what a sound and quality, after owning a copy of the bootleg from the late 70s

uptil i got rid a few years ago the quality of sound from the original to that boot was amazing!!

the louder i played it the better it sounded with no lose of fidelity.

so have you owned/own a bootleg/counterfiet that you have replaced with the original copy and

saw a total difference in the quality? any examples?

oh yer another one i remember was that billy arnell-tough girl boot bloody awefull sound quality!!

regards

russ

"Too Much" - Jimmy Conwell - Gemini. Very dark blue label bootleg is very low sound quality whereas the green label original sounds great!

  Stardom said:

"Too Much" - Jimmy Conwell - Gemini. Very dark blue label bootleg is very low sound quality whereas the green label original sounds great!

not quite mate, i have a original green copy gemini ,the sound quality is aweful the louder play

it the worse it sounds

MY JIMMY WAS SAME,SO IS MY M8S.

I WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THE SHARPETS FOR YOU BUT I WAS 2ND HIGHEST BIDDER

GREAT TUNE

  sepia said:

MY JIMMY WAS SAME,SO IS MY M8S.

I WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THE SHARPETS FOR YOU BUT I WAS 2ND HIGHEST BIDDER

GREAT TUNE

yes im suprised i got it for the price, weird thing, but lately have been picking up stuff

i thought i would be out bidded on!! but thats ebay some you win some you loose.

regards

russ

YIP,PRICES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE @ THE MO.

  russoul1 said:

hi all, recieved an original copy of "the sharpets - lost in a world of a dream" today cleaned it put it on the

deck and then WOW what a sound and quality, after owning a copy of the bootleg from the late 70s

uptil i got rid a few years ago the quality of sound from the original to that boot was amazing!!

the louder i played it the better it sounded with no lose of fidelity.

so have you owned/own a bootleg/counterfiet that you have replaced with the original copy and

saw a total difference in the quality? any examples?

oh yer another one i remember was that billy arnell-tough girl boot bloody awefull sound quality!!

regards

russ

The Billy Arnell one was absolutely terrible ! Just couldn't believe it when someone paid £12 for mine on Ebay a couple of years back !

One that i had a similar experience as you with was 'Ron Holden - I'll Forgive & Forget' .

Had the gold & red boot/reissue & sound quality never struck me as being bad, but when played the original it really was 10 x better !!

take me home,donna king mid 70s lookalike hotline bootlegs are awful,

there was a thread on here a while ago about original 45 records with bad quality sound the two that seemed to be worst were,hit and run,rose battiste and you want to change me,bobby hebb,usa copys of this tune only,uk ones are ok ???

  Bogue said:

The Billy Arnell one was absolutely terrible ! Just couldn't believe it when someone paid £12 for mine on Ebay a couple of years back !

One that i had a similar experience as you with was 'Ron Holden - I'll Forgive & Forget' .

Had the gold & red boot/reissue & sound quality never struck me as being bad, but when played the original it really was 10 x better !!

£12 god that was cheap didnt no sell not long ago for over £100!!!!

real proper crap recording n label....

  russoul1 said:

not quite mate, i have a original green copy gemini ,the sound quality is aweful the louder play

it the worse it sounds

Well maybe you have a bad copy, all the dark blue boots play about a third of the volume as the green originals!

Two crap pressings i used to have were

Salvadors & Mel Britt

The UK Jay Boy release of the Fi Dels "Try A Little Harder" plays much louder and clearer than the original US release on Keymen !!!!!!!!!!

Edited February 17, 200817 yr by sunnysoul

A truly amazing sounding production, if you have the original Valise release, is Frank Dell's - 'He Broke Your Game Wide Open' - possibly one of the finest, loudest, crisp sounding cuts I've heard on a 7".

The majority of bootlegs sounded lousy didn't they? Rita Dacosta on UK Contempo was also dubbed from vinyl however. The original sounds fabulous by comparison!

Edited February 17, 200817 yr by mel brat

  russoul1 said:

not quite mate, i have a original green copy gemini ,the sound quality is aweful the louder play

it the worse it sounds

i'm with you on that russ, my green original sounds rubbish, you have to really crank it up

shame considering its an awesome record, one of my faves

  andyk123 said:

i'm with you on that russ, my green original sounds rubbish, you have to really crank it up

shame considering its an awesome record, one of my faves

At least i'm not alone, had the dark green/blue(?) boot since early/mid 70s finally got around to buying an original & although it's much better than the boot it's very quiet, I always look out for someone looking towards the decks when I play it out in case they think "oh yeah he's playing a bloody boot" !!!!!

The original of Bobby Garrett - I Can't Get Away - Mirwood is bloody crap sound quality. Annoyed me so much I had to get rid of it. I had the same problem with To Much, which should of course be TOO MUCH anyway.

  sunnysoul said:

The UK Jay Boy release of the Fi Dels "Try A Little Harder" plays much louder and clearer than the original US release on Keymen !!!!!!!!!!

My keymen recording is possibly the loudest vinyl piece I have..and I have, great Torch record.

  SHSDave said:

At least i'm not alone, had the dark green/blue(?) boot since early/mid 70s finally got around to buying an original & although it's much better than the boot it's very quiet, I always look out for someone looking towards the decks when I play it out in case they think "oh yeah he's playing a bloody boot" !!!!!

Well that's strange, my green issue plays loud and clear, not quiet at all. So much different from the dark blue boot!

Some of my red & black styrene Atlantics are rubbish!.... Barbara Lewis, TSU Toronadoes, Barbara Lynn, they're quiet, distorted, poor definition - and these are records that haven't been hammered. Anybody got any good styrene Atlantics?

  On 17/02/2008 at 07:22, sunnysoul said:

The UK Jay Boy release of the Fi Dels "Try A Little Harder" plays much louder and clearer than the original US release on Keymen !!!!!!!!!!

my fidels on keymen was booming....it could have been pressed on keymen like the fury`s..... no `H` in deadwax

  On 18/02/2008 at 18:08, PaulDonnelly said:

My keymen recording is possibly the loudest vinyl piece I have..and I have, great Torch record.

 

Did you used to go the Torch then ?

Edited December 27, 201410 yr by Chris L

the sound quality on the orig billy arnell is shite too,have to crank the volume up! so the boot may even be better?

Being as though someone has resurrected this old thread I will add to it and state that, over the years I have purchased several boots/re issues of very rare records, so that I could record them for home use. Every one of them has been terrible sound quality, and I couldn't stand to listen to them.

 

Not just vinyl either. After getting back into northern through the Cd's that were available late nineties. After listening to them for a couple of years and then getting some of the original vinyl. The difference was amazing, and not just in sound quality, but also the pitch. Just shows that a lot of those early Cd's must have been dubbed from vinyl or even tapes, and some probably off boots.

Christine cooper - Heartaches Away. 

Don't buy boots.

Steve

just realised this thread is like 7 years old

Edited December 28, 201410 yr by dave pinch

  On 28/12/2014 at 08:35, dave pinch said:

just realised this thread is like 7 years old

That's how old I want to be when I grow up

Steve

  On 27/12/2014 at 17:32, SoulStu said:

Some of my red & black styrene Atlantics are rubbish!.... Barbara Lewis, TSU Toronadoes, Barbara Lynn, they're quiet, distorted, poor definition - and these are records that haven't been hammered. Anybody got any good styrene Atlantics?

I had a few dodgy Atlantic (US) styrene issues, Barbara Lewis "fool, fool, fool" which had distortion (cue burn) for the first 10 seconds and "still remember the feeling" which played with distortion all the way through. I replaced both with vinyl copies but SRTF doesn't play great, maybe a general pressing, mastering fault? Have to say that most of my Atlantic 45's are vinyl.

I've also got a mint condition vinyl Tyrone Davis "please consider me" that plays with distortion throughout.

Dave

when the boots came out back in the day we or most i should say did not give a stuff about sound quality ,

 

just to have that record at home to play was awsome,

 

and now we are all the worst critics with our up to date top of the range sound systems.

 

imho of course

 

kev

  On 27/12/2014 at 17:32, SoulStu said:

Some of my red & black styrene Atlantics are rubbish!.... Barbara Lewis, TSU Toronadoes, Barbara Lynn, they're quiet, distorted, poor definition - and these are records that haven't been hammered. Anybody got any good styrene Atlantics?

tony & tyrone demo..loud n clear..

my demo boot of Mel Williams-Can it be me'..is clearer than my issue..both ex nr mint....

bloody hell started this thread 7 years ago.....anyway one of the loudest and clearest 45s, not many that you have to turn the volume down on - steve mancha - Friday night - groovesville

unbelievable sound from a 40+ year old piece of vinyl, also possibly the best copy ive seen as most are trashed

  On 03/01/2015 at 14:03, russoul1 said:

bloody hell started this thread 7 years ago.....anyway one of the loudest and clearest 45s, not many that you have to turn the volume down on - steve mancha - Friday night - groovesville

unbelievable sound from a 40+ year old piece of vinyl, also possibly the best copy ive seen as most are trashed

 

Russ, we must get the two sides played out 'back to back' at our next 'Caliente' - I'll provide the "Monday through Thursday" side, you provide the "Friday Night" side! 

 

Ray