Ged Parker Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 I'll be in London tommorow and often on my journey back, if I get away in time, I'll call in at a local night in the midlands. Mostly when this happens there is nothing to my liking so I trundle up the M6 to the staffs area, Mace always has something on . So why with so many free weeks do I see the Station at Dudley (great venue / music policy BTW) and a new venue Studio one (Don't know the venue but the line up is strong) plus one in Kinver just down the road (I have an ex colleague that lives 100yrds away) all on the same night. This gives me a problem and I don't even live in the Midlands so at the risk of being controversial when starting a new night would it be too radical to pick a different week? I don't expect promoters to plan their nights around my various trips up and down the UK but avoiding established nights should be simple or am I missing something
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 That's a loaded question Ged. There are loads of potential reason's why this is happening and yes the W Mids is one of the busiest areas it seems for small local do's but are they all offering the same thing. It seems that everyone wants to be a promoter nowadays, though god alone knows why
Mace Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Mostly when this happens there is nothing to my liking so I trundle up the M6 to the staffs area, Mace always has something on . link Ahem....
pikeys dog Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Never on a friday...... link Cos' Fridays Lederhosen Night. WOOF!
Mace Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Cos' Fridays Lederhosen Night. WOOF! link That's correct.....Frocks are for Church on Sundays.... By the way Joe, my avatar has buggered off - tried reloading it to no effect. Don't suppose you've been a mardarse and complained to Mike about it have you.......... :angry:
pikeys dog Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 That's correct.....Frocks are for Church on Sundays.... By the way Joe, my avatar has buggered off - tried reloading it to no effect. Don't suppose you've been a mardarse and complained to Mike about it have you.......... :angry: link Never, still there on my pc in all its Ginner Glory. WOOF!
Pete S Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 A soul night in Kinver? Are you serious? Only 40 people live there! Can you let me have the details Ged, it's a stones throw from me
Dave Rimmer Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 I'll be in London tommorow and often on my journey back, if I get away in time, I'll call in at a local night in the midlands. Mostly when this happens there is nothing to my liking so I trundle up the M6 to the staffs area, Mace always has something on . So why with so many free weeks do I see the Station at Dudley (great venue / music policy BTW) and a new venue Studio one (Don't know the venue but the line up is strong) plus one in Kinver just down the road (I have an ex colleague that lives 100yrds away) all on the same night. This gives me a problem and I don't even live in the Midlands so at the risk of being controversial when starting a new night would it be too radical to pick a different week? I don't expect promoters to plan their nights around my various trips up and down the UK but avoiding established nights should be simple or am I missing something link You're missing something, and I'm not one of the promoters by the way, just one of the DJs The venue dictates the nights they have available. This particular venue has been planned for a long time, and was used a several months ago, but had to close at midnight. The reason for the long planning is that the change in licencing laws means that they can now run until 2 am, which makes it well worth the while for any one who has travelled a fair distance. The other big advantage of the place is that it could have been designed for a Soul night, having a big stage, wooden dancefloor and two rooms. And if you lived in the Midlands you'd be aware there aren't ANY free weeks in the month, whenever this night was put on it would clash with something else within a ten mile radius.
John May Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 You're missing something, and I'm not one of the promoters by the way, just one of the DJs The venue dictates the nights they have available. This particular venue has been planned for a long time, and was used a several months ago, but had to close at midnight. The reason for the long planning is that the change in licencing laws means that they can now run until 2 am, which makes it well worth the while for any one who has travelled a fair distance. The other big advantage of the place is that it could have been designed for a Soul night, having a big stage, wooden dancefloor and two rooms. And if you lived in the Midlands you'd be aware there aren't ANY free weeks in the month, whenever this night was put on it would clash with something else within a ten mile radius. link I think dave is right, there will always be another event on somewhere that your venue will clash with. Nobody as the right to say that a particular night is thier night and that should stop another event from taking place. It seems to me that as long as each venue offers a little bit different from the other venue's then in effect it gives the punter more choice than anything else. What I don't like is venue's in open competition against each other, trying to out do each other by claiming to have better D.J's etc. Let the punter decide.
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 I think dave is right, there will always be another event on somewhere that your venue will clash with. Nobody as the right to say that a particular night is thier night and that should stop another event from taking place. It seems to me that as long as each venue offers a little bit different from the other venue's then in effect it gives the punter more choice than anything else. What I don't like is venue's in open competition against each other, trying to out do each other by claiming to have better D.J's etc. Let the punter decide. link But surely that is a recipe for disaster, there has to be some co-operation between promoters or else everyone will loose out. Obviously healthy competition is a good thing but to declare open season on soul nights is IMVFHO asking for trouble. John
John May Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 But surely that is a recipe for disaster, there has to be some co-operation between promoters or else everyone will loose out. Obviously healthy competition is a good thing but to declare open season on soul nights is IMVFHO asking for trouble. John link I think that does seem to happen with the BIg events, but at local level, it appears to be everyman for himself........I like a bit of healthy competition anyway Like I say more choice for the punters
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Yes on the face of it a good thing but to me it seems that quality is sacrificed for quantity what's better 10 soul nights on the same night with a smattering of good DJ's each having 20 odd through the door or one decent local event with a good to great line up and 200+ through the door, surely a better night all round? John
John May Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Yes on the face of it a good thing but to me it seems that quality is sacrificed for quantity what's better 10 soul nights on the same night with a smattering of good DJ's each having 20 odd through the door or one decent local event with a good to great line up and 200+ through the door, surely a better night all round? John link There we have to differ i think Johnny, I would rather have a choice and go to a venue with just a few there........I don't like crowds anyway. Just my personnal preference though Johnny.
shute Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) BEST FRIDAY NIGHT THIS WEEKEND IN THE MIDLANDS SRFC ASTONFIELDS STAFFORD M6 - J14 FOLLOW SIGN 4 RAF TURN RIGHT INTO COMMON ROAD FOLLOW ROAD ROUND. STAFFORD RANGERS FC ON THE RIGHT THIS MONTHS TOP DJ :- DAVE RIMMER RESIDENTS :- SHUTE GAZ BELCHER JOHN FISHER DOING THE WARM UP SPOT AS ALWAYS...DAZ DOOD 8PM - 1PM £4 B4 9PM £5 AFTER LATE AND CHEAP BAR Edited March 31, 2005 by shute
John May Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 BEST FRIDAY NIGHT THIS WEEKEND IN THE MIDLANDS SRFC ASTONFIELDS STAFFORD M6 - J14 FOLLOW SIGN 4 RAF TURN RIGHT INTO COMMON ROAD FOLLOW ROAD ROUND. STAFFORD RANGERS FC ON THE RIGHT THIS MONTHS TOP DJ :- DAVE RIMMER RESIDENTS :- SHUTE GAZ BELCHER JOHN FISHER DOING THE WARM UP SPOT AS ALWAYS...DAZ DOOD 8PM - 1PM £4 B4 9PM £5 AFTER LATE AND CHEAP BAR link As usual would love to be there shute, unfortunatly I'M on nights......
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 BEST FRIDAY NIGHT THIS WEEKEND IN THE MIDLANDS ...... link above post classed as event spam please use the correct sections of site to post flyers
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 There we have to differ i think Johnny, I would rather have a choice and go to a venue with just a few there........I don't like crowds anyway. Just my personnal preference though Johnny. link 200 is hardly a massive crowd in the scheme of things John, if you are happy enough with 20 people through the door you might as well set up the decks in your front room and invite your mates around to DJ May the 14 anygood?? That way you know that all the music will be spot on and to your taste, there will be cheap beer and your name is guaranteed to be on the door when you get there which is always nice and the biggest bonus if you fancy a lock in you are well in with the promoter (you) so the chances are good John
Little-stevie Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Yes on the face of it a good thing but to me it seems that quality is sacrificed for quantity what's better 10 soul nights on the same night with a smattering of good DJ's each having 20 odd through the door or one decent local event with a good to great line up and 200+ through the door, surely a better night all round? John link Yes you are right with the one good night is better than a lot of poorly attended ones...But all the different promoters would want the best night,thats the problem in trying to find agreement etc...There is always gonna be politics and people forming there own little groups because they want to hear there own sounds..Don't really want to be negative but thats the way it goes a lot of the time..
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Yes you are right with the one good night is better than a lot of poorly attended ones...But all the different promoters would want the best night,thats the problem in trying to find agreement etc...There is always gonna be politics and people forming there own little groups because they want to hear there own sounds..Don't really want to be negative but thats the way it goes a lot of the time.. link Yeah that was really my point Stevie Baby too many promoters not enough quality, i'm certainly not having a go at anyone here btw but it stands to reason that something's got to give
Ged Parker Posted March 31, 2005 Author Posted March 31, 2005 It appears at the moment I only open my mouth to change feet . The post wasn't a dig at anyone and if it appeared that way I apologise for that. The point is still valid though, in any area why do all the best nights (I accept that my definition of 'Best' may differ from many) seem to be on the same night . I'll keep my frustrations to myself in future.
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Don't be daft Ged a worthy topic mate John
John May Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 200 is hardly a massive crowd in the scheme of things John, if you are happy enough with 20 people through the door you might as well set up the decks in your front room and invite your mates around to DJ May the 14 anygood?? That way you know that all the music will be spot on and to your taste, there will be cheap beer and your name is guaranteed to be on the door when you get there which is always nice and the biggest bonus if you fancy a lock in you are well in with the promoter (you) so the chances are good John link That sounds spot on to me johnny, at least I'm guarenteed to hear tracks that I like........
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 That sounds spot on to me johnny, at least I'm guarenteed to hear tracks that I like........ link not necessarily
Dave Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 BEST FRIDAY NIGHT THIS WEEKEND IN THE MIDLANDS link What do you want to be when you grow up.......Kev Roberts?
Dave Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Don't be daft Ged a worthy topic mate John link For the "Events" section
Chalky Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) I think dave is right, there will always be another event on somewhere that your venue will clash with. Nobody as the right to say that a particular night is thier night and that should stop another event from taking place. It seems to me that as long as each venue offers a little bit different from the other venue's then in effect it gives the punter more choice than anything else. What I don't like is venue's in open competition against each other, trying to out do each other by claiming to have better D.J's etc. Let the punter decide. link At the end of the day they are all in open competition against each other, none want to fail! Whats a little bit different, 5 Royales twice instead of three times. Unless offering someting totally different it's hardly giving the punters a choice, neither is it putting them first IMO Edited March 31, 2005 by chalky
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 The trouble with the EAST MIDLANDS soul scene is to much of the same.Annesley/bentick/kingsway/ are ok.But they keep playing the same tunes.From what i see these promoters need educating.
Guest musicden786 Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 I'll be in London tommorow and often on my journey back, if I get away in time, I'll call in at a local night in the midlands. Mostly when this happens there is nothing to my liking so I trundle up the M6 to the staffs area, Mace always has something on . So why with so many free weeks do I see the Station at Dudley (great venue / music policy BTW) and a new venue Studio one (Don't know the venue but the line up is strong) plus one in Kinver just down the road (I have an ex colleague that lives 100yrds away) all on the same night. This gives me a problem and I don't even live in the Midlands so at the risk of being controversial when starting a new night would it be too radical to pick a different week? I don't expect promoters to plan their nights around my various trips up and down the UK but avoiding established nights should be simple or am I missing something link Wish you could move some of these events to Cambridgeshire-Bedfordshire. Its dead over here. Having to travel to village in the fens tomorrow night to get some music. Not sure if I will be safe. Denis.
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 The trouble with the EAST MIDLANDS soul scene is to much of the same.Annesley/bentick/kingsway/ are ok.But they keep playing the same tunes.From what i see these promoters need educating. link Thers more venues in the east midlands than those three that play 'different stuff' You'll have to give them a try
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Wish you could move some of these events to Cambridgeshire-Bedfordshire. Its dead over here. Having to travel to village in the fens tomorrow night to get some music. Not sure if I will be safe. Denis. link Go over to Grantham on 22nd april Barrowbys ok and plays some different stuff.Not too far is it? Perhaps a bit safer than the fens??
Guest Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Wish you could move some of these events to Cambridgeshire-Bedfordshire. Its dead over here. Having to travel to village in the fens tomorrow night to get some music. Not sure if I will be safe. Denis. link Where ? I'm that way too
Dave Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 The trouble with the EAST MIDLANDS soul scene is to much of the same.Annesley/bentick/kingsway/ are ok.But they keep playing the same tunes.From what i see these promoters need educating. link I'll bet you're right, Mr "Shrine" And I'll bet you are the man to do the educating After all, aren't you the one who said the other day: "Got to agree with steve L.modern and r/b should be at seperate venues****** *** and **** ****** you are total arseholes and are obviously returnees so get alife and come back when you know what NORTHERN SOULS ALL ABOUT."? Regards, Dave
Dave Posted March 31, 2005 Posted March 31, 2005 Go over to Grantham on 22nd april Barrowbys ok and plays some different stuff.Not too far is it? Perhaps a bit safer than the fens?? link "different"? to what? Please explain Surely this thread should be in the events section?????
Soulsmith Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Take the M6 toll. Works for me everytime. Col The Toll.
Guest Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 So why with so many free weeks do I see the Station at Dudley (great venue / music policy BTW) and a new venue Studio one (Don't know the venue but the line up is strong) plus one in Kinver just down the road (I have an ex colleague that lives 100yrds away) all on the same night. link Thanks for the kind words re the Station Ged, pleased it helps to break up your journey with music you appreciate. Re the new soul night only half a mile down the road from the Station. The clash should just be a one off. Have spoken with one of the promoters and will be letting him know our dates for the rest of the year. The new venue has plenty of other free Friday's in future months, (I've checked that out) so there should be no need to clash. Gaye
Guest Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Im replying to you dave the point being?/.The northern soul scene is ok in the east midlands.But my question is were was these people in the eighties and early nineties?.There was a vibrant soul scene in mansfield and north notts through out those decades.And dont give me crap about weve had our kids and were out to play again.Are the current promoters cashing in pardon the pun.
soulster22 Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Wish you could move some of these events to Cambridgeshire-Bedfordshire. Its dead over here. Having to travel to village in the fens tomorrow night to get some music. Not sure if I will be safe. Denis. link At least you've got the Soul Central do in Milton Keynes on 13th May to look forward to What a top night with plenty of and and even a little (sorry about the plug but it is a top night) Regards Soulster22
Guest Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 (edited) Having to travel to village in the fens tomorrow night to get some music. Not sure if I will be safe. Denis. link OI! What`s wrong with the fens. We have had electricity for at least the last 4 years, and its not true that a fen virgin is a twelve year old girl that can run faster than her dad. When we`ve finished our hard days work on the land we love a stomp at the local hop. Edited April 2, 2005 by Guest
Guest Phil Richards Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I'll be in London tommorow and often on my journey back, if I get away in time, I'll call in at a local night in the midlands. Mostly when this happens there is nothing to my liking so I trundle up the M6 to the staffs area, Mace always has something on . So why with so many free weeks do I see the Station at Dudley (great venue / music policy BTW) and a new venue Studio one (Don't know the venue but the line up is strong) plus one in Kinver just down the road (I have an ex colleague that lives 100yrds away) all on the same night. This gives me a problem and I don't even live in the Midlands so at the risk of being controversial when starting a new night would it be too radical to pick a different week? I don't expect promoters to plan their nights around my various trips up and down the UK but avoiding established nights should be simple or am I missing something link First I would like to reply to this by saying, That I myself have no involvment in booking dates for the new studio 1 venue. The only involvment I have had is to book DJs, if anyone has a problem with this then please phone the main promotors. Secondly your comment about congestion in the midlands is true! but I myself along with blue max and woody, talk on a regular basis to the other promotors of the main soul nights to make sure that we do not clash with each other, which of course makes sense. Yes there are going to be some nights when venue's do clash but at the end of the day it is called freedom of choice..... just because you put a soul night on does,nt mean that ppl will turn up, ppl are not sheep, I find that most soul fans are quite capable of making their own decisions of where to go!! Thats why as a promotor and dj myself,. I try to give the ppl what they want. Thats why we have now taken the decision to move from the Black Horse in wolverhampton to a new, far superior venue which will give ppl comfortable surroundings, better dance floor, cheaper beer, secure car park with cctv, good sound system, and a good line up of DJs. And further to that, might I just add..... I have negotiated a new 500 room allnighter in birmingham everything is in place for this venue, except one thing a date, because I am doing my utmost not to clash with other allnighters. Therefore I repeat I did not book the dates for the Studio 1 club, As some ppl think I have, so wherever you go be safe, enjoy yourself, thats what soul dues are all about. Phil Richards
Pete S Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 First I would like to reply to this by saying, That I myself have no involvment in booking dates for the new studio 1 venue. The only involvment I have had is to book DJs, if anyone has a problem with this then please phone the main promotors. Secondly your comment about congestion in the midlands is true! but I myself along with blue max and woody, talk on a regular basis to the other promotors of the main soul nights to make sure that we do not clash with each other, which of course makes sense. Yes there are going to be some nights when venue's do clash but at the end of the day it is called freedom of choice..... just because you put a soul night on does,nt mean that ppl will turn up, ppl are not sheep, I find that most soul fans are quite capable of making their own decisions of where to go!! Thats why as a promotor and dj myself,. I try to give the ppl what they want. Thats why we have now taken the decision to move from the Black Horse in wolverhampton to a new, far superior venue which will give ppl comfortable surroundings, better dance floor, cheaper beer, secure car park with cctv, good sound system, and a good line up of DJs. And further to that, might I just add..... I have negotiated a new 500 room allnighter in birmingham everything is in place for this venue, except one thing a date, because I am doing my utmost not to clash with other allnighters. Therefore I repeat I did not book the dates for the Studio 1 club, As some ppl think I have, so wherever you go be safe, enjoy yourself, thats what soul dues are all about. Phil Richards link Stop saying 'ppl' or I will be forced to smack you :graynone:
Pete S Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 Stop saying 'ppl' or I will be forced to smack you :graynone: link I changed the wording on the advert slightly... Studio 1 - The who's who of Black Country Soul Jocks Friday April 8th The Dudley Club Waterloo Rd, off Wellington Rd, Dudley. The first night at this wonderful venue (It's the Old Dudley Labour Club, so has a big stage, wooden dancefloor, raised seating, and cheap Bar Prices.) Record Dealers welcome. Main Room DJ line up: - Blue Max, Dave Rimmer, Little Scotty, John Pugh, Phil Richards, Woody, and Jamie Carr 2nd Room DJ Line up: Pete Smith playing a Ska & Soulful Rocksteady set - first time at a Northern venue...90 minute set or until he's kicked off. Plus other guest soul DJ's.
Little-stevie Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 I changed the wording on the advert slightly... Studio 1 - The who's who of Black Country Soul Jocks Friday April 8th The Dudley Club Waterloo Rd, off Wellington Rd, Dudley. The first night at this wonderful venue (It's the Old Dudley Labour Club, so has a big stage, wooden dancefloor, raised seating, and cheap Bar Prices.) Record Dealers welcome. Main Room DJ line up: - Blue Max, Dave Rimmer, Little Scotty, John Pugh, Phil Richards, Woody, and Jamie Carr 2nd Room DJ Line up: Pete Smith playing a Ska & Soulful Rocksteady set - first time at a Northern venue...90 minute set or until he's kicked off. Plus other guest soul DJ's. link Hi Pete Good to see a bit of Ska/Rocksteady Pete... I would like a tape/cd if you don't mind..Always like to push abit of that stuff at my nights... Stevie in good mood... Peterborough 1 Hudds Town 2 4 wins in a row..The mighty terriers are on fire...
Guest Phil Richards Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 Stop saying 'ppl' or I will be forced to smack you :graynone: link No you can't but you can get the beer in Phil
Gary Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 The East Midlands aint much better let me tell you, all those tractors
Guest Phil Richards Posted April 3, 2005 Posted April 3, 2005 Thanks for the kind words re the Station Ged, pleased it helps to break up your journey with music you appreciate. Re the new soul night only half a mile down the road from the Station. The clash should just be a one off. Have spoken with one of the promoters and will be letting him know our dates for the rest of the year. The new venue has plenty of other free Friday's in future months, (I've checked that out) so there should be no need to clash. Gaye link Where are these free Friday's ?? You have Goodyears, Junction 9, The Black Horse, so thats 3 Fridays out the window. And I know the promotors did'nt want to run up against these venues. As X co-promotor of the station, I have all the dates for the station hotel and did inform the promotors that the April date clashed with the Station. Also may I remind everyone that this is "NOT" a new venue infact I dj,d there last year. Phil Richards
Guest Phil Richards Posted April 3, 2005 Posted April 3, 2005 It appears at the moment I only open my mouth to change feet . The post wasn't a dig at anyone and if it appeared that way I apologise for that. The point is still valid though, in any area why do all the best nights (I accept that my definition of 'Best' may differ from many) seem to be on the same night . I'll keep my frustrations to myself in future. link Hi Ged, You are entitled to your opinion mate, and no offense was taken at all, after all it's only a soul night not life and death. Phil Richards
Guest Posted April 3, 2005 Posted April 3, 2005 Re the new soul night only half a mile down the road from the Station. The clash should just be a one off. Have spoken with one of the promoters and will be letting him know our dates for the rest of the year. The new venue has plenty of other free Friday's in future months, (I've checked that out) so there should be no need to clash. Gaye where are these free Friday's ?? You have Goodyears, Junction 9, The Black Horse, so thats 3 Fridays out the window. And I know the promotors did'nt want to run up against these venues. As X co-promotor of the station, I have all the dates for the station hotel and did inform the promotors that the April date clashed with the Station. Also may I remind everyone that this is "NOT" a new venue infact I dj,d there last year. Phil Richards -------------------- Phil Please read my post properly. The venue in dudley that I referred to as the new venue in dudley has plenty of free Fridays. The original night at the new venue was the Saturday after the Station until it was changed to the Friday. That is exactly as I was told by the original promoters. It was only after you asked to be involved with that venue that it was changed. However I will be fair and say that it was only the small room booked on the saturday and when changed to the big room I was told they had to change the date as the big room was not available. Just as you say, people will go where they choose. They will also make their own minds up about what they think. However, when you don't read correctly read or understand what is written down, that's when it causes problems. I will repeat yet again that Club Dudley has plenty of free fridays, in the coming months. Gaye
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