ajb Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 "come on train" - Don Thomas - NUVJ deep red label, VG+(atleast) condition vinyl, VG++/EX label any ideas of cost thanks alan
Chalky Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) I've seen it go for various prices, from around £50 to £150. Personally thought it was worth around £75 but books at twice that in the JM guide. Edited February 13, 2008 by chalky
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 What about a demo or the blue copy.
Ronjon Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 "come on train" - Don Thomas - NUVJ deep red label, VG+(atleast) condition vinyl, VG++/EX label any ideas of cost thanks alan I thought the deep red(mauve) coloured version was a boot. Only white DJ or bright pink stock copies are the real thing. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Soul-slider Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I thought the deep red(mauve) coloured version was a boot. Only white DJ or bright pink stock copies are the real thing. Correct me if I'm wrong. Bright pink & white demo's are kosher. Red one's.....
ajb Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 I thought the deep red(mauve) coloured version was a boot. Only white DJ or bright pink stock copies are the real thing. Correct me if I'm wrong. thanks for that alan
Guest Matt Male Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Bright pink & white demo's are kosher. Red one's..... Also the red boot has silver writing, the pink original is in black writing.
Guest Glynn Jones Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) I used to have a copy on a black label (can't remember what it was) with inst as b side. The thing I remember most is, the sound was crystal clear and had last three notes on end that you don't usually hear. Any ideas what this was? G Edited February 13, 2008 by Glynn Jones
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I used to have a copy on a black label (can't remember what it was) with inst as b side. The thing I remember most is, the sound was crystal clear and had last three notes on end that you don't usually hear. Any ideas what this was? G No thats the blue one, ends with the piano 3 notes. I have a copy some where.
Guest Matt Male Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 (edited) I used to have a copy on a black label (can't remember what it was) with inst as b side. The thing I remember most is, the sound was crystal clear and had last three notes on end that you don't usually hear. Any ideas what this was? G This one? British issue. Says (vocal) on A side so i'm assuming B side is the instrumental. Edited February 13, 2008 by Matt Male
Pauldonnelly Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 how much a white promo these days? I'm selling.
Guest moggy Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 I've seen it go for various prices, from around £50 to £150. Personally thought it was worth around £75 but books at twice that in the JM guide. Ive sold a couple of issues, never reached £50 on either on ebay The good people of Germany seem to love this tune and most copies seem to get snapped up by them never a £150 record just far too many around, Demo maybe
Guest Glynn Jones Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 This one? British issue. Says (vocal) on A side so i'm assuming B side is the instrumental. Yep. That's the one, mate.
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Wow is that red as well, never seen one of those before.
Guest Matt Male Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Wow is that red as well, never seen one of those before. No it's not red vinyl, its just a reflection on the black vinyl. Not mine btw.
Nocker Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 What is the blue, normal looking VJ lable then, is that a boot??
Guest Gogs Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 how much a white promo these days? I'm selling. last one i seen for sale was priced £190 can't remember where or when (maybe too much of the amber nectar )
Guest Matt Male Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) What is the blue, normal looking VJ lable then, is that a boot?? This one? Second issue i always thought. Edited February 14, 2008 by Matt Male
Jim G Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 What hell is this one ?!! https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DON-THOMAS-COME-ON-T...7QQcmdZViewItem
Guest Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 This one? Second issue i always thought. The Blue V.J. is a bootleg.
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 What hell is this one ?!! https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DON-THOMAS-COME-ON-T...7QQcmdZViewItem A load of crap they even ran out of ink so what's the quality going to be like.
Steve G Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) The Blue V.J. is a bootleg. ...or legal reissue? Can confirm Pink def came first. Edited February 14, 2008 by Steve G
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) Blue VJ is a different version so it cant be a boot and it has the instrumental version on the other side. I always saw the blue for years only in the last 12 years seen the pink an white. Edited February 14, 2008 by Prophonics 2029
De-to Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 A load of crap they even ran out of ink so what's the quality going to be like.they ran out of ink because they have so many boot 45s for sale,yet again more bootlegs on e-bay!!!
Jason S Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 last one i seen for sale was priced £190 can't remember where or when (maybe too much of the amber nectar ) Did it actually sell though cos my white demo's still here and it's only £60
Steve G Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) Blue VJ is a different version so it cant be a boot and it has the instrumental version on the other side. Yeah good point, Thomas also did the slower "train keep moving" on Cal State,and later "Calling me home" so he obviously had a thing about going on journeys back home Edited February 14, 2008 by Steve G
Nocker Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 (edited) That white lable on ebay is a rip off!!! Funny the comments as i bought the blue one at Wigan from Russ's little shop on the balcony whilst is was still a played sound, a few weeks later the pink ones appeared and i always thought them to be the second/boots especially with a label like nu.vj....it always struck as as being a not quite right...well you live and learn. By the way is the DJM one the same as the pinlk one or the blue one??? Cheers John Edited February 14, 2008 by Nocker
Steve G Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 That white lable on ebay is a rip off!!! Funny the comments as i bought the blue one at Wigan from Russ's little shop on the balcony whilst is was still a played sound, a few weeks later the pink ones appeared and i always thought them to be the second/boots especially with a label like nu.vj....it always struck as as being a not quite right...well you live and learn. By the way is the DJM one the same as the pinlk one or the blue one??? Cheers John Pink was 73, Blue was 75 ....where's me anorak
Ric-tic Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 That white lable on ebay is a rip off!!! Funny the comments as i bought the blue one at Wigan from Russ's little shop on the balcony whilst is was still a played sound, a few weeks later the pink ones appeared and i always thought them to be the second/boots especially with a label like nu.vj....it always struck as as being a not quite right.. i think exactly what you think, i swear the brownie one was the way i remember it being played at the mecca
Nocker Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Steve Sorry mate but i am not so sure!!!! I am still convinced in my mind the blue was first, as i said i bought mine when it was still a "played" sound not when it had peaked and the pink one appeared. But i am willing to be convinced. Cheers John
Steve G Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Steve Sorry mate but i am not so sure!!!! I am still convinced in my mind the blue was first, as i said i bought mine when it was still a "played" sound not when it had peaked and the pink one appeared. But i am willing to be convinced. Cheers John I got the blue one first too - just like you - from Cheapo Cheapo - which was like an extended version of Russ's booth upstairs at the Casino only in Soho. Was told by John A later that the pink one is the first issue. The blue one does have a 75 date on it. Steve
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Think I got my blue from the shop with a casino classic but that was 1978.
Guest Matt Male Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 To my mind the pink NUVJ is the original 1st issue, the blue VJ is a legal reissue, the black DJM seems to be a legal British issue of a slightly different version probably taken from the blue VJ, the deep red is the boot. Mind you i would say this as i've got a pink one I can see where people are coming from about the blue VJ one. I remember loads of these about late 70s/early 80s before seeing the pink one, mind you this makes me think even more that the blue is far more common than the pink. Having said that if you look on popsike you'll see the blue fetch £50 being sold as an 'original'. Having said all that i seem to remember seeing a black VJ at some point. Is that a demo? Can anyone confirm?
Chalky Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 I thought the deep red(mauve) coloured version was a boot. Only white DJ or bright pink stock copies are the real thing. Correct me if I'm wrong. I was referring to the pink ones when I quoted what I thought they are worth...
Kjw Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 how much a white promo these days? I'm selling. I remember Dave Withers having about 200 of the white demos - he struggled to get rid of them at £5 each - early 90's I think
Guest Budgie Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Didn't Neil Rushdon import the pink copies early 70's.Along with various releases on Brown Door.I always thought it was a California release and Vee Jay is a Chicago area label. Pete.
Guest CliftonHall1 Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Didn't Neil Rushdon import the pink copies early 70's.Along with various releases on Brown Door.I always thought it was a California release and Vee Jay is a Chicago area label. Pete.
Guest CliftonHall1 Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 True. Natty Neil bought the PINK Originals in from a warehouse find in California. I took a box of 100 from him along with Buster & Eddies etc. NuVJ relates to the first effort by the daughter after relocating from Chicago to CA . Rather like Gordy and Motown had done. I later saw the "mother" plates she had of Beatles 45's. Dave McCadden had a quantity of white demo's in 80's from a Transvestite "Push & Plug" guy (sorry) in CA.
Guest Matt Male Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 NuVJ relates to the first effort by the daughter after relocating from Chicago to CA . Rather like Gordy and Motown had done. Very interesting stuff Alan. So does this mean that COT was reissued on NuVJ from VJ, meaning VJ is the first issue, or (which i hope) that NuVJ was first and then issued later by VJ Chicago? It's looking like no one has the definative answer apart from the dates 74/75. Fingers crossed for the pink one.
Steve G Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Very interesting stuff Alan. So does this mean that COT was reissued on NuVJ from VJ, meaning VJ is the first issue, or (which i hope) that NuVJ was first and then issued later by VJ Chicago? It's looking like no one has the definative answer apart from the dates 74/75. Fingers crossed for the pink one. Sorry but no Sean - again pink first, blue second. Steve
Sweeney Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Very interesting stuff Alan. So does this mean that COT was reissued on NuVJ from VJ, meaning VJ is the first issue, or (which i hope) that NuVJ was first and then issued later by VJ Chicago? It's looking like no one has the definative answer apart from the dates 74/75. Fingers crossed for the pink one. The famous old VJ Records based in Chicago closed in 1966. The revamped label COT appears on (Vee Jay International) was based in California and run by a couple of former employees that bought the Vee Jay name and rights to back catalogue. Quite why they decided to release/re-release 'Come On Train' is anyone's guess. I don't think I've seen any other contemporary/new release Vee Jay International recordings of the period (1975). The 1001 catalogue number would indicate the first release on the revamped label. I've always thought the NuVJ was the original and that the blue Vee Jay International was a later reissue. Both definitely seem to be from California.
Guest Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Blue VJ is a different version so it cant be a boot and it has the instrumental version on the other side. I always saw the blue for years only in the last 12 years seen the pink an white. Well the Fidels "Try A Little Harder" also turned up on the same Blue V.J. label, and thats not original.
Guest Gogs Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Did it actually sell though cos my white demo's still here and it's only £60 don't know if it sold or not but Mr Manship has one for sale at £175 so your still a bit on the cheap side.
Guest Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 I was always under the impression that the pink one came out first.
Steve G Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 I was always under the impression that the pink one came out first. It bloody did - for the last time Pink first blue later. ANyone that says otherwise is not correct . VJ went bust and NuVJ was a reincarnation, but it still came befofre the relaunched VJ (International) in 75. Steve
Hermanthegerman Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Ive sold a couple of issues, never reached £50 on either on ebay The good people of Germany seem to love this tune and most copies seem to get snapped up by them never a £150 record just far too many around, Demo maybe It is in demand in the german scooter scene.......
Peter99 Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 It bloody did - for the last time Pink first blue later. ANyone that says otherwise is not correct . VJ went bust and NuVJ was a reincarnation, but it still came befofre the relaunched VJ (International) in 75. Steve So Steve. Just for clarity it was definitely pink then blue?
Nocker Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 (edited) Steve. As the one of fist to cast doubt on the sequence..I now accept PINK first Blue second, but what i will say is the blue ones were more readilly available before the pink ones surfaced Cheers John, great info and a good debate.... Edited February 18, 2008 by Nocker
Steve G Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Steve. As the one of fist to cast doubt on the sequence..I now accept PINK first Blue second, but what i will say is the blue ones were more readilly available before the pink ones surfaced Cheers John, great info and a good debate.... I agree, think the blue ones were mass imported I guess, Steve
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 The missing link. White Demo, Pink Issue then Blue.
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