45cellar Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) The Original has Large Font Title - (DEMO & Stock Copy) This one is the second as it has Small Title and Recording First Published 1965 Edited February 2, 2008 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ChrisOD1964 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The Original has Large Font Title - (DEMO & Stock Copy) This one is the second as it has Small Title and Recording First Published 1965 i had the demo years ago sold it in a job lot what does it sell for now? and what does the stock go for? chris Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) Here's an original issue copy which I sold in November 2007 for $61 on eBay: Edited February 2, 2008 by Sebastian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The Original has Large Font Title - (DEMO & Stock Copy) This one is the second as it has Small Title and Recording First Published 1965 Top one "painted dessert" Bottom "shapiro" Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) Here's an original issue copy which I sold in November 2007 for $61 on eBay: Thanks Sebastian, It's Much Better to compare the Stock Copies. I've never had chance of an Original Stock Copy. Edited February 2, 2008 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) i had the demo years ago sold it in a job lot what does it sell for now? and what does the stock go for? chris Hi Chris According to Manships 3rd Edition £50 = Original White DEMO £50 = Original Stock Copy I'm not sure what the current Values are. Edited February 2, 2008 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 Top one "painted dessert" Bottom "shapiro" Hi Ken Yes, you're right, I'm not sure why they did that. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The "small title" issue copy above was actually booted from the UK copy (it has got the exact same information and typesetting): Then there's this alternative UK white demo! 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 The "small title" issue copy above was actually booted from the UK copy (it has got the exact same information and typesetting): Then there's this alternative UK white demo! Now it makes sense. Thanks Once again Sebastian. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) Hi Ken Yes, you're right, I'm not sure why they did that. I've also got an original issue with Painted Desert on the 'Queen of Fools' side but on the flip side it says Acuff Rose. Why the different names? What do they signify? Different music publishers for each side? update: answering my own question.. Acuff Rose was the publishing company from Nashville Tennesee that also ran Hickory. Painted Desert is part of Shapiro, Berstein and Co Inc. which explains why the original is Painted Desert and later it is Shapiro. It later took on the umbrella publishing company name. Here's Shapiro Berstein's site https://www.shapirobernstein.com/mbr/welcome.html Edited February 2, 2008 by Matt Male Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share Posted February 2, 2008 I've also got an original issue with Painted Desert on the 'Queen of Fools' side but on the flip side it says Acuff Rose. Why the different names? What do they signify? Different music publishers for each side? update: answering my own question.. Acuff Rose was the publishing company from Nashville Tennesee that also ran Hickory. Painted Desert is part of Shapiro, Berstein and Co Inc. which explains why the original is Painted Desert and later it is Shapiro. It later took on the umbrella publishing company name. Here's Shapiro Berstein's site https://www.shapirobernstein.com/mbr/welcome.html Thanks Matt Incredible Information, I think that we've now covered just about everything about the release. All in a couple of hours or so, Amazing. Just what this forum is about. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 thats not an alternate white demo. its a white issue. It also came out on a black issue and a pink issue here in th uk. all with push out 4 prong centers. the demo has a full center. thats 4 original uk variations. Not bad for a rare record is it dave Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 thats not an alternate white demo. its a white issue. It also came out on a black issue and a pink issue here in th uk. all with push out 4 prong centers. the demo has a full center. thats 4 original uk variations. Not bad for a rare record is it dave Hi Dave I've a copy of Bread and Butter on Black with a Blue Hickory Rainbow Logo. Seen many on Pink Label. I also have Run Baby Run on White Hickory Stock Copy. I didn't know that some had been released on all designs. As you say, not bad for such a Rare record as Queen Of Fools to appear on 4 Original Variations. Be good to see scans of the other label variations for Barbara Mills. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
soulAdequateNP Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735 Now that is one Variation I definitely haven't seen before, Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735 There`s also a w/promo styreen boot done at Monarch with the MR stamp. Dave f.......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 a bootleg copy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted March 13, 2008 Author Share Posted March 13, 2008 a bootleg copy Thanks for posting this. It all helps to Identify one from the other. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 A different Boot to the one put up, Dave f.......... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Gogs Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 A different Boot to the one put up, Dave f.......... your is painted dessert mines is shapiro bernstein, it's all rather confusing Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
chrissie Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 What makes me laugh is you all discuss it but if you heard it out you would all call the soul police so fast as you wouldn't see your arses for dust. The flip is a great toon and far better than QOF QoFxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share Posted April 22, 2010 And yet another label variation - I presume this is the West Coast press as it has the Monarch MR stamp and delta number 57735 Here's the Vinyl Original + Matrix Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rbman Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 a bootleg copy I found i had got that one only last weekend..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ez Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) On 4/22/2010 at 11:55, 45cellar said: Here's the Vinyl Original + Matrix hello, longtime lurker first time poster. I just found a copy with the above matrix but with a star, anyone ever seen one like this? great record btw. thanks Edited January 8, 2016 by ez Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tlscapital Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 8 hours ago, ez said: hello, longtime lurker first time poster. I just found a copy with the above matrix but with a star, anyone ever seen one like this? great record btw. thanks Looks like a stamp from here. Nothing special. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jona Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Hi can anyone confirm whether the original has a "Nashville matrix" stamp, as per Manships new book please. I have just purchased a vinyl WLP larger title than artist, label is well worn, but plays great. Thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gilly Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 On 02/02/2008 at 15:17, Sebastian said: The "small title" issue copy above was actually booted from the UK copy (it has got the exact same information and typesetting): Then there's this alternative UK white demo! I used to have a UK issue, it had Return to BBC Library stamped on it in purple ink Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Winsford Soul Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Gilly said: I used to have a UK issue, it had Return to BBC Library stamped on it in purple ink My Sue Lynne. Don't pity me had the same also in a half round plastic record sleeve Steve 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SX150 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I have an Advanced Pressing Acetate on PYE - not a 1975 reissue - anyone else know about this ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rotherham Soul Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) On 14/01/2022 at 17:44, SX150 said: I have an Advanced Pressing Acetate on PYE - not a 1975 reissue - anyone else know about this ? Hickory were pressed and distributed by Pye back in the 60's from from 1964 to around November 1966, so Queen of Fools would come into this timeframe Edited January 15, 2022 by rotherham soul 1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SX150 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Thanks, so this will pre-date the UK Hickory release...any idea of value ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Pinch Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 15/01/2022 at 17:02, SX150 said: Thanks, so this will pre-date the UK Hickory release...any idea of value ? if its a pye advance it could well be a pre release to the original uk hickory copy and will be worth quite a bit.. uk hickory were distributed by decca and issued over here on london from 1969 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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