CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 Hi Looking for a m-/ex+ copy of Bobby thurston .. just ask me on Expansion cheers David
Wally Francis Posted January 27, 2008 Posted January 27, 2008 Is this getting played out ? as it's been getting asked for quite a lot lately and what's the going price for it ?
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted January 27, 2008 Author Posted January 27, 2008 Is this getting played out ? as it's been getting asked for quite a lot lately and what's the going price for it ? don't hear it much .....last time i remember was sam at stoke 3years ago .... should be played a lot more IMHO....i play at Cambridge when ever i can just want a 45 as i have to keep playing original lp and want to keep it at home as it's not easy to get
Jellybean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Is this getting played out ? as it's been getting asked for quite a lot lately and what's the going price for it ? I,ve heard it played a few times out and recently at Broad Lane Essington so how much is it going for then? Cos i want a copy too!! JB xxx
Roger Williams Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Shouldn't cost you any more than a tenner at the outside. I'm sure Expansion Records will still have them in stock - info@expansion-records.co.uk - Crazy Beat or Soul Brother may even still have them in stock.
Jellybean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Shouldn't cost you any more than a tenner at the outside. I'm sure Expansion Records will still have them in stock - info@expansion-records.co.uk - Crazy Beat or Soul Brother may even still have them in stock. Cheers!! What a toon for a tenner!! JB xxx
Wiganer1 Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Cheers!! What a toon for a tenner!! JB xxx ==== one of the greatest northern tunes ever for me....glorious tune
Sean Hampsey Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 ==== one of the greatest northern tunes ever for me....glorious tune Agree Mark.... but cleared the floor for me at Newcastle Tiffs, early 80's. T'was MASSIVE at Clifton Hall while still covered up... but it hadn't yet reached the Midlands. Still not got over it! Didn't think it would take 28 years though to get popular!
Roger Williams Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Didn't think it would take 28 years though to get popular! Bollocks, I knew I should have sold that copy to Mister Cambridge Soul for 50 quid!! All joking aside though, I bet it won't be long before people are being ripped off for that much for it if it gets wider recognitiion.
Peter99 Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Agree Mark.... but cleared the floor for me at Newcastle Tiffs, early 80's. T'was MASSIVE at Clifton Hall while still covered up... but it hadn't yet reached the Midlands. Still not got over it! Didn't think it would take 28 years though to get popular! Top tune. Forgot what this was covered as - Chigago Gangsters or something - I really can't remember. As you say Sean top Clifton Hall spin. I can't believe it cleared the floor anywhere - what a cwazy cwazy scene this is!
Sean Hampsey Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Top tune. Forgot what this was covered as - Chigago Gangsters or something - I really can't remember. As you say Sean top Clifton Hall spin. I can't believe it cleared the floor anywhere - what a cwazy cwazy scene this is! Al Johnson & The Hitmen, Peter. Was BIG at Clifton for Richard and I bagged me a copy. Took it to N-U-L Tiffs thinkin' I'd got the Holy Grail so, following Dave Evison, kicked my spot off with it. Must have been 200 people on the dancefloor... until I came on! Story of my life mate!
Peter99 Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Al Johnson & The Hitmen, Peter. Was BIG at Clifton for Richard and I bagged me a copy. Took it to N-U-L Tiffs thinkin' I'd got the Holy Grail so, following Dave Evison, kicked my spot off with it. Must have been 200 people on the dancefloor... until I came on! Story of my life mate! Aah! Al Johnson and the Hit Men - that's the one. Your far too modest Mr Hampsey!
Roger Williams Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Your far too modest Mr Hampsey! I'd would stake some of my hard-earned on it being the first time that's been said!!
Wiganer1 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Looking for a copy. PM, please. === my last record at the nuneaton coop last saturday... i think its one of the greatest tunes ever put on vinyl.. just brilliant..
Sunnysoul Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 The only "legitimate" way to play this is off the LP
Prophonics 2029 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 I have a spare copy of this on Ex 45.
Roger Williams Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 The only "legitimate" way to play this is off the LP Tell that to Ralph Tee who paid money to license it.
Guest Nick Harrison Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Top tune. Forgot what this was covered as - Chigago Gangsters or something - I really can't remember. As you say Sean top Clifton Hall spin. I can't believe it cleared the floor anywhere - what a cwazy cwazy scene this is! Hi Pete 99, Just off topic as it seems a long time ago....but was'nt the James Mack And Chicago Gansters cover up - Roy Dawson's - Over The Top. And talking of Clifton Hall and Sean, would someone be able to remind me of the cover up name of the Brothers Guiding Light feat David as played or covered by John Vincent, as mentioned within another thread. Thanks.
Sunnysoul Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Tell that to Ralph Tee who paid money to license it. If one lives by the so called original vinyl only policy, then it is only the LP. The Expansion 45 is a modern reissue, albeit legally licensed.
Flanny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 If one lives by the so called original vinyl only policy, then it is only the LP. The Expansion 45 is a modern reissue, albeit legally licensed. here here original or feck off back home with your BOOTS
Flanny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 If one lives by the so called original vinyl only policy, then it is only the LP. The Expansion 45 is a modern reissue, albeit legally licensed. here here well said that man original only or feck off back home with your BOOTS or legal re issues or whatever you want to call em. and let the purists do it proper anyone who plays boots at a venue wants sulphuric acid dripped slowly down thier japs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sean Hampsey Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Hi Pete 99, Just off topic as it seems a long time ago....but was'nt the James Mack And Chicago Gansters cover up - Roy Dawson's - Over The Top. And talking of Clifton Hall and Sean, would someone be able to remind me of the cover up name of the Brothers Guiding Light feat David as played or covered by John Vincent, as mentioned within another thread. Thanks. Hi Nick, John had it covered up as "The Anderson Brothers" ... while I was playing it as The Brothers Guiding Light. Remember him getting quite cross with me for announcing it as the correct artist. Sean
Sean Hampsey Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 If one lives by the so called original vinyl only policy, then it is only the LP. The Expansion 45 is a modern reissue, albeit legally licensed. The 'original vinyl only' policy is an ass! 'Legal' or 'Legitimate' vinyl only I can live with. Anyone likely to get hung for playing Ivory's 'Please Stay' on Wand (for example)? Sean
Guest rm84 Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Haha, glad to see I started the perpetual motion machine. Edited February 19, 2009 by rm84
Sean Hampsey Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Haha, glad to see I started the perpetual motion machine. Don't think so. There's simply no argument! Sean
Flanny Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 The 'original vinyl only' policy is an ass! 'Legal' or 'Legitimate' vinyl only I can live with. Anyone likely to get hung for playing Ivory's 'Please Stay' on Wand (for example)? Sean worst example ever!!!!! Sean you should know better really it's like saying Don Gardner on grapevine? or sedgrick? I know one thing if a D.j or so called D.j played a record like this before me going on with Don type tunage for the use of I wouldn't work for that promoter again 'Please Dont Stay go' and id stuff tha WAND UP his arse before he was thrown into the soul police van along with his carrier bag of legal reissues
Sean Hampsey Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 worst example ever!!!!! Sean you should know better really it's like saying Don Gardner on grapevine? or sedgrick? I know one thing if a D.j or so called D.j played a record like this before me going on with Don type tunage for the use of I wouldn't work for that promoter again 'Please Dont Stay go' and id stuff tha WAND UP his arse before he was thrown into the soul police van along with his carrier bag of legal reissues Its the best example ever... and you know it! That's why you were forced to resort to complete jibberish as a reply! Sean
Barry Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 A Searling play at Wigan for me. Just to add that to play it from the album will do your dancefloor no favours, beautiful track yet awful response.
Steve G Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Just ask me has had on off plays in the south ever since the early 80s......it's been played in Herts / Beds, Essence etc every so often over the years - great tune and always had it's following. It doesn't clear the floor either. This record was one of the turning points for me at Wigan in 1980 - I was amazed at the stuff Richard and Sam were playing when I went back up there after a break. Always loved this one - that kind of Prelude Lester / Brown type beat, and those vocals.........a record I never tire of.......can I play it when I come up to Cambridge in May David? On the other topic - Sean The Ivories a very poor example mate - Despanza was a local Chicago label, Wand was a national label that picked it up for wider distribution. It was still a new release at the time. Shall I scan up my cherished Wand copy ?
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) On the other topic - Sean The Ivories a very poor example mate - Despanza was a local Chicago label, Wand was a national label that picked it up for wider distribution. It was still a new release at the time. Shall I scan up my cherished Wand copy ? Reissue, Steve, (and certainlty not the original label) regardless of how cherished. Don't let Flanny see you playing it! It was an extreme example, of course, to show how fukced up the 'first issue' policy is. Lets face it, were it not for Reissues the NS scene would never have taken off in a big way in the 70's. Me and thousands of others would never have heard the Tams "Hey Girl Don't Bother Me" or Tami Lynn "I'm Gonna Run Away From You" and Donnie Elbert "Little Piece Of Leather" etc. were it not for DJ's playing them - and promoting Soul Music - everywhere we went at the time (don't think for a second they were all playing orig HMV's, UK Black Atlantics or UK Sue copies of the latter. I guess it all hinges on how the DJ sees his role. Apart from the entertainment factor, is he a promotor of Soul Music or just somebody who sees it as an opportunity to show off his collection of Rare 45's. I happen to have a fabulous collection - amassed over some 40 years - but I've never allowed that to interfere with what I consider to be my role as a promoter of Soul Music. Frankly, I'd play soul music off a toaster... if I could get a decent sound out of it. Sean Edited February 21, 2009 by Sean Hampsey
Simon M Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) The 'original vinyl only' policy is an ass! 'Legal' or 'Legitimate' vinyl only I can live with. Anyone likely to get hung for playing Ivory's 'Please Stay' on Wand (for example)? Sean I thought it was Legitimate format ... Sean ? ps . Halo is a good example as Dyco is the re-issue lable Edited February 21, 2009 by Simon M
Steve G Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Reissue, Steve, (and certainlty not the original label) regardless of how cherished. Don't yet Flanny see you playing it! Sean Sean, disagree with you there - it's a National release of a local release - happened all the time in the USA as you know because the locals could't manage distribution or because the national thought it had potential (or both). That's different from a reissue which is something that comes out much later in response to some sort of demand. I am sure Flanny has danced to my copy of the Ivories too. which has far better sound on it than the Despanza release by the way.
SteveM Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Hi Nick, John had it covered up as "The Anderson Brothers" ... while I was playing it as The Brothers Guiding Light. Remember him getting quite cross with me for announcing it as the correct artist. Sean Not only that Sean, but it had been played for some time before John started djing again with his new cover ups !
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Sean, disagree with you there - it's a National release of a local release - happened all the time in the USA as you know because the locals could't manage distribution or because the national thought it had potential (or both). That's different from a reissue which is something that comes out much later in response to some sort of demand. I am sure Flanny has danced to my copy of the Ivories too. which has far better sound on it than the Despanza release by the way. Of course its different from a reissue which comes out much later, but a second issue on a National label is a reissue (not the 'original'), Steve, no matter how you couch it. But, as I said, I don't give a fig either way. I'll leave the label bragging to those who feel the need. Sean
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Not only that Sean, but it had been played for some time before John started djing again with his new cover ups ! You're right Steve. Several years in fact. To be fair... he'd been away for a while so wasn't to know that... but it illustrates that BGL was no way considered a 'big' record when new. Sean
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I thought it was Legitimate format ... Sean ? What was Simon? The Wand Ivorys is Legit, of course, and that makes it acceptable. As I understand it, the Bobby Thurston 45 is also legit - as is the Don Gardner reissue mentioned earlier. Someone said they'd object to such legal reissues being played out - and I say the scene was built on them, therefore the whole approach is erroneous and has become no more than a latter day tool of 'dick waving' and self promotion, over the promotion of the music itself. Tragic.
Simon M Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 What was Simon? The Wand Ivorys is Legit, of course, and that makes it acceptable. As I understand it, the Bobby Thurston 45 is also legit - as is the Don Gardner reissue mentioned earlier. Someone said they'd object to such legal reissues being played out - and I say the scene was built on them, therefore the whole approach is erroneous and has become no more than a latter day tool of 'dick waving' and self promotion, over the promotion of the music itself. Tragic. Yes I agree Sean . Have you got your legit Natural Impulse yet ?
Cunnie Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I thought it was Legitimate format ... Sean ? ps . Halo is a good example as Dyco is the re-issue lable Very desirable re-issue though Simon. What about the Lotusland recent re-issue though? Only way to get the full 12" version so does that make it an original
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Yes I agree Sean . Have you got your legit Natural Impulse yet ? No mate. But if I had, I probably wouldn't play it. I don't play recent re-issues as a general rule... but that's more because I've always got loads of other stuff that needs an airing. Just think that those who do want to use 'em should be allowed to - and not treated as some kind of pariah, by those who can afford the collectors piece. Sean
Simon M Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Very desirable re-issue though Simon. What about the Lotusland recent re-issue though? Only way to get the full 12" version so does that make it an original Thats actually a latter day remix Martin . Its a legit issue plus they gave us lots of info on Halo on that radio Interview Did you know theres a smaller lable issue of Flight "Dont play your games "
Simon M Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 but that's more because I've always got loads of other stuff that needs an airing. Sean
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 they must think they are on Antiques Roadshow AWESOME! Summed up in one! Sean
Simon M Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 AWESOME! Summed up in one! Sean I think lots of todays DJ's hide their lack of imagination and digging skills with the OVO cry !!
Cunnie Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Thats it ! nail on the head Sean ! Its these Hot boxer types that struggle with that concept , they must think they are on Antiques Roadshow Ok then Simon. I'll carve Motherfox & do a straight swap for your original copy. Will even remove the 'wonky bit' near the end for you What the hell I'll even pay your postage fella
Simon M Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Ok then Simon. I'll carve Motherfox & do a straight swap for your original copy. Will even remove the 'wonky bit' near the end for you What the hell I'll even pay your postage fella But I only play legit format/release mate , why would I do that Edited February 21, 2009 by Simon M
Modernsoulsucks Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Sean, disagree with you there - it's a National release of a local release - happened all the time in the USA as you know because the locals could't manage distribution or because the national thought it had potential (or both). That's different from a reissue which is something that comes out much later in response to some sort of demand. I am sure Flanny has danced to my copy of the Ivories too. which has far better sound on it than the Despanza release by the way. I agree with you. No way can it be described as a re-issue. I'd have no problem with it being played out on Kent [it was, wasn't it] which is of course a legit re-issue. ROD
Sean Hampsey Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I'd have no problem with it being played out on Kent [it was, wasn't it] which is of course a legit re-issue. ROD Yes it was, Rod. Quite an early one too. Like you, I wouldn't object to hearing it out on any label. But its obvious that some would. Great tune either way (IMO). Sean
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