Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Quote from Edu today on Enelclub (yahoo group of 1500+ members) "If you know Pete Smith as you say, you'd certainly know that is a person prone to lose his temper quite easily. I had a problem with him -well, not really me, more my ex-girlfriend- about a certain copy of Freddie Chavez some years ago. Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her. I'm sorry to say that, but some UK dealers have this (at its best) patronising attitude towards European customers, as if we didn't know our ass from our elbow when we talk about northern soul collecting and as if we should have to accept all they say as gospel truth. Point is, you don't want to be treated like a three year old when spending your hard earned dosh, do you? Besides of that, i could name one big name dealer who's well dodgy (i.e selling reissues for originals, keeping your money for months and finally not sending what you asked for in the first place, having a simply unbearable snobbish attitude against any kind of criticism against his -very- useless staff, etc..., " Edited January 26, 2008 by Pete S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Pete Griffin Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Quote from Edu today on Enelclub (yahoo group of 1500+ members) "If you know Pete Smith as you say, you'd certainly know that is a person prone to lose his temper quite easily. I had a problem with him -well, not really me, more my ex-girlfriend- about a certain copy of Freddie Chavez some years ago. Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her. I'm sorry to say that, but some UK dealers have this (at its best) patronising attitude towards European customers, as if we didn't know our ass from our elbow when we talk about northern soul collecting and as if we should have to accept all they say as gospel truth. Point is, you don't want to be treated like a three year old when spending your hard earned dosh, do you? Besides of that, i could name one big name dealer who's well dodgy (i.e selling reissues for originals, keeping your money for months and finally not sending what you asked for in the first place, having a simply unbearable snobbish attitude against any kind of criticism against his -very- useless staff, etc..., " By the way Pete. that record you sent me wasnt mint -, it is like new, dont think it has ever been played on the decks. your getting famous Pete for all the wrong reasons Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 the customer is always right maybe they should go & deal with DOMAR Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Personally, I've got a few Spanish customers and I've never had a problem with any of them. Always polite, know their stuff and best of all always pay quickly I'm happy to welcome any Spanish (or in fact any nationality) soul fans to become customers. All I need to do now is learn a couple of languages so I can actually speak to some of them, always find it embarassing that nearly every european I've met can speak at least a little english and yet 99% of us Brits know just about enough to ask for a pint! Adam. Edited January 26, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 By the way Pete. that record you sent me wasnt mint -, it is like new, dont think it has ever been played on the decks. your getting famous Pete for all the wrong reasons I'd played it once Pete, otherwise it was new. Better to undergrade than over. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Personally, I've got a few Spanish customers and I've never had a problem with any of them. Always polite, know their stuff and best of all always pay quickly I'm happy to welcome any Spanish (or in fact any nationality) soul fans to become customers. All I need to do know is learn a couple of languages so I can actually speak to some of them, always find it embarassing that nearly every european I've met can speak at least a little english and yet 99% of us Brits know just about enough to ask for a pint! Adam. I also have some great Spanish customers Adam but the majority dislike you, no matter who you are, so long as you're from the UK. If you saw the venom dished out against the Brits on the Spanish soul forums it would make you wince. Not everyone feels the same obviously, but you would be shocked Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Pete Griffin Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I'd played it once Pete, otherwise it was new. Better to undergrade than over. So True Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I also have some great Spanish customers Adam but the majority dislike you, no matter who you are, so long as you're from the UK. If you saw the venom dished out against the Brits on the Spanish soul forums it would make you wince. Not everyone feels the same obviously, but you would be shocked Never been on the Spanish forums myself, but I'm guessing it's like the majority of forums, where a vocal minority can give a false impression. I can only speak of my personal experience with european customers and all have been easy to deal with and friendly so I find it hard to believe that the majority of them dislike me purely because I'm english. Adam. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 war english vs spanish or what? i've bought records to english dealers many times, and never had a problem.. and its a real pleasure to deal with some of them.. these days im having problems with paypal, and they had to wait for payments, and they were very patient, thank you very much for that! ana Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ShaneH Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Pete Smith AKA Sir Francis Drake I have dealt with Pete a couple of times (with non soul items) and found the bloke a pleasure to deal with Shane Edited January 26, 2008 by ShaneH Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 who would be the other dealer,there's only 1 that has what we would call staff. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 who would be the other dealer,there's only 1 that has what we would call staff. It's either John or Tim Brown? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) "Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her." "Point is, you don't want to be treated like a three year old when spending your hard earned dosh, do you?" i would never accept this! so i agree with Edu in that point.. respect and education first.. i dont know about what happened, and i dont want to know.. i just give my opinion.. cheers Ana Edited January 26, 2008 by soulie_girl_80 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 "Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her." "Point is, you don't want to be treated like a three year old when spending your hard earned dosh, do you?" i never would accept this! so i agree with Edu.. respect and education first.. i dont know about what happened, and i dont want to know.. i just give my opinion.. cheers Ana Well if you don't know, how can you comment? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 "Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her." In otherwords, clutching at straws, I haven't sold him or whatsername a record for 9 years or so, I have neverhad an original copy of Freddie Chavez, so she probably tried selling me a bootleg as an original, thats all I can think of, and even then I wouldn't have been rude to her, I'm only rude to people on soul source who deserve it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ontherun64 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 This is the top topic in both forums. Anyway, I know Paloma for a long time and bought some records to her and never have a problem. She's so serious with the condition of the records. On the other hand, I have bought records to Pete some years ago and never have a problem with the transactions. So, I honesty think that this is not UK dealers vs Spanish costumers, both should talk in private about this problem and try to get a solution. Best Borja Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Well if you don't know, how can you comment? i think there was a misunderstanding there.. i just know what i read, what i meant is i dont know if what he, you, whoever says its true or not.. my english is not perfect and im sorry if i dont explain myself very well sometimes.. so.. what i just wanted to say is i wouldnt accept a dealer being rude to me, thats all.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Brian Ellis Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Tell you what Pete, you can start some corking threads . Stick to your guns. Brian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 In otherwords, clutching at straws, I haven't sold him or whatsername a record for 9 years or so, I have neverhad an original copy of Freddie Chavez, so she probably tried selling me a bootleg as an original, thats all I can think of, and even then I wouldn't have been rude to her, I'm only rude to people on soul source who deserve it Hi, Pete, It was you who was selling the Freddie Chavez, not her. If you never had an original copy of Freddie Chavez, what were you selling her...? The simple assumption that was her the one being dodgy is quite rich, isn't it? Besides of that, i've sold you some stuff on eBay not so long ago and was buying from you when you still were doing Beatin' Rhythm, so we know each other. Best regards Eduard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 This is the top topic in both forums. Anyway, I know Paloma for a long time and bought some records to her and never have a problem. She's so serious with the condition of the records. On the other hand, I have bought records to Pete some years ago and never have a problem with the transactions. So, I honesty think that this is not UK dealers vs Spanish costumers, both should talk in private about this problem and try to get a solution. Best Borja agree with you Borja! hows everything going by the way!!?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 never mind pete. once it sorts itself out,you mght get twinned with a spanish town. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Hey Ana, nice of you to post this soul source link on the enelclub forum, so you're a secret spy eh Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Pete Smith AKA Sir Francis Drake I have dealt with Pete a couple of times (with non soul items) and found the bloke a pleasure to deal with Shane Hows the mp3 player doing mate, I robbed myself there! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Hey Ana, nice of you to post this soul source link on the enelclub forum, so you're a secret spy eh Deleted, can't be bothered with an arguement. Edited January 26, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Hey Ana, nice of you to post this soul source link on the enelclub forum, so you're a secret spy eh are you sure i'm the spy? or Mark? Edu is my friend so i had to tell him about it. i shouldnt have send it on the forum, just to him.. but well, its done now.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 are you sure i'm the spy? or Mark? Edu is my friend so i had to tell him about it. i shouldnt have send it on the forum, just to him.. but well, its done now.. Who's Mark? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Deleted, can't be bothered with an arguement. what did you delete? im lost now.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Quote from Edu today on Enelclub (yahoo group of 1500+ members) "If you know Pete Smith as you say, you'd certainly know that is a person prone to lose his temper quite easily. I had a problem with him -well, not really me, more my ex-girlfriend- about a certain copy of Freddie Chavez some years ago. Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her. I'm sorry to say that, but some UK dealers have this (at its best) patronising attitude towards European customers, as if we didn't know our ass from our elbow when we talk about northern soul collecting and as if we should have to accept all they say as gospel truth. Point is, you don't want to be treated like a three year old when spending your hard earned dosh, do you? Besides of that, i could name one big name dealer who's well dodgy (i.e selling reissues for originals, keeping your money for months and finally not sending what you asked for in the first place, having a simply unbearable snobbish attitude against any kind of criticism against his -very- useless staff, etc..., " By the way, also said that i never had any problems with the stuff i bought off Pete (including a John Andrews Uk demo for 50 pounds... ). I'd say that 90 % of the UK dealers i've had deals with were nice/honest people, 10 % were total assholes...i reckon that, from the UK dealers point of view, the proportion of honest buyers should be the same (including Spanish, i guess... ). If anybody wants to think that all people in the northern soul scene are crooks it's his/her/their problem, certainly not mine... Best Eduard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Quote from Edu today on Enelclub (yahoo group of 1500+ members) "If you know Pete Smith as you say, you'd certainly know that is a person prone to lose his temper quite easily. I had a problem with him -well, not really me, more my ex-girlfriend- about a certain copy of Freddie Chavez some years ago. Can't recall what was all about, but i remember that he was quite rude with her. I'm sorry to say that, but some UK dealers have this (at its best) patronising attitude towards European customers, as if we didn't know our ass from our elbow when we talk about northern soul collecting and as if we should have to accept all they say as gospel truth. Point is, you don't want to be treated like a three year old when spending your hard earned dosh, do you? Besides of that, i could name one big name dealer who's well dodgy (i.e selling reissues for originals, keeping your money for months and finally not sending what you asked for in the first place, having a simply unbearable snobbish attitude against any kind of criticism against his -very- useless staff, etc..., " By the way, also said that i never had any problems with the stuff i bought off Pete (including a John Andrews Uk demo for 50 pounds... ). I'd say that 90 % of the UK dealers i've had deals with were nice/honest people, 10 % were total assholes...i reckon that, from the UK dealers point of view, the proportion of honest buyers should be the same (including Spanish, i guess... ). If anybody wants to think that all people in the northern soul scene are crooks it's his/her/their problem, certainly not mine... Best Eduard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 are you sure i'm the spy? or Mark? Edu is my friend so i had to tell him about it. i shouldnt have send it on the forum, just to him.. but well, its done now.. If someone types something and posts it anywhere, it's there for all the world to see. If Edu didn't want it to be read, he shouldn't have posted it. Not that I give a toss about something thats supposed to have happend almost 10 years ago. Funny that he didn't mention how much help I gave his girlfriend when she got ripped off by some Belgian. I even spoke to their police on her behalf. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 By the way, also said that i never had any problems with the stuff i bought off Pete (including a John Andrews Uk demo for 50 pounds... ). Can I have that back please? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 the customer is always right maybe they should go & deal with DOMAR :( I did...once Best Eduard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie78 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Aha! Nice to see, that the Battles starts again, from an outstanding point of view. England vs. Spain. Like, for hundreds of years, now. This thread can become better than such great hollywood films like "Elisabeth". A new chapter in the "Legenda Negra"! Well, records are a kind of religion, too. Cheers, Martin PS: Always liked to deal with you, Pete, also we didn't for some year now. Edited January 26, 2008 by soulie78 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Can I have that back please? You'd have to sink the Spanish Armada first... Edu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 If someone types something and posts it anywhere, it's there for all the world to see. If Edu didn't want it to be read, he shouldn't have posted it. Not that I give a toss about something thats supposed to have happend almost 10 years ago. Funny that he didn't mention how much help I gave his girlfriend when she got ripped off by some Belgian. I even spoke to their police on her behalf. That's very true, and i thank you for that...so many people ripped off by that bastard...now, that WAS a crook! Best Edu Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Shall I close this topic? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Shall I close this topic? Might be best, will just end up going round in circles and not actually achieving anything. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Shall I close this topic? Fine with me... Eduard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sepia Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 FINISH IT ONCE YOU'VE REACHED 13'000 POSTS. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Fine with me... Eduard Only reason I opened it was because I didn't see the relevance of bringing up something that happened many years ago (which I honestly don't remember and I can never remember arguing with Nina either) - I certainly don't everrememberhaving had a problem with you Eduard, in the early days of soul on the internet we used to do quite a lot of business I remember...so it was just a bit weird, though presumably because one starts having a pop at me, then everyone joins in. OK I'll close this before 9 o clock Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 FINISH IT ONCE YOU'VE REACHED 13'000 POSTS. Oh yeah, I never noticed that...only 12 posts to go Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tykarim Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Only reason I opened it was because I didn't see the relevance of bringing up something that happened many years ago (which I honestly don't remember and I can never remember arguing with Nina either) - I certainly don't everrememberhaving had a problem with you Eduard, in the early days of soul on the internet we used to do quite a lot of business I remember...so it was just a bit weird, though presumably because one starts having a pop at me, then everyone joins in. OK I'll close this before 9 o clock It wasn't meant as a personal go at you, i assure you... s**t hits the fan and all that. Would be good if people took constructive criticism in a more mature way though...and no, im not talking about you either Best Eduard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 It wasn't meant as a personal go at you, i assure you... s**t hits the fan and all that. Would be good if people took constructive criticism in a more mature way though...and no, im not talking about you either Best Eduard I understand what you are saying about made to feel patronised by UK sellers/collectors. I get exactly the same when buying reggae and black guys look at me as if I'm from another planet and I've often been asked what I'm doing there looking at 'their' records Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Who's Mark? ........ Be afraid ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 ........ Be afraid ! Good record that, "Zorro" by David Bowie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 im not going to comment about another ones problems anymore.. i had enough.. cheers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
John Elias Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Good record that, "Zorro" by David Bowie My God I must be gettin' old as I thought it was Zigma the spy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Pete Griffin Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Si, cierre la hilo Pete S Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulie_girl_80 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Si, cierre la hilo Pete S Peeeeeeeteeeee Griffin!!! you're great!! xxx Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Good record that, "Zorro" by David Bowie As was most things he did pre 78 ish Quick note to all you Spanish guys, top bloke Pete & one of, if not the, fairest dealers in the UK !! Alright he might occasionaly come across as moody behind the keyboard, but with him, if you buy a Spade you get a f*****g Spade !! & at a good price ! & a few more choice expletives too sometimes ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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