Tony Smith Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Has anyone bought any records off him and can they PM me? TIA
Rich Buckley Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Has anyone bought any records off him and can they PM me? TIA Yep, have PM'd you. Totally reliable, have bought a few bits off him. Cheers, Rich
Soul Shrews Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Bought a record off him last year Tony, found him totally reliable too Cheers Paul
Guest fryer Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 DO NOT TRUST! IF YOU HAVE BOUGHT AN ACETATE OF HIM CHECK IT IS VALID, peel the label back and check its not bright white underneath he sent me a fake (pretend old) acetate (i checked the date of manufacture with the acetate manufacturer amd it was mar 2006) and then refused to refund my money making excuses i should be thankful anyway i urge all who bought acetates to check them. Paypal also agreed with my claim as i had written proof from acetate manufacturer but he removed all his money from that account and then made a new one so we could not charge the cash back.
Pete S Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 DO NOT TRUST! IF YOU HAVE BOUGHT AN ACETATE OF HIM CHECK IT IS VALID, peel the label back and check its not bright white underneath he sent me a fake (pretend old) acetate (i checked the date of manufacture with the acetate manufacturer amd it was mar 2006) and then refused to refund my money making excuses i should be thankful anyway i urge all who bought acetates to check them. Paypal also agreed with my claim as i had written proof from acetate manufacturer but he removed all his money from that account and then made a new one so we could not charge the cash back. Oh dear, I'm shocked and surprised at this. I also bought an acetate. But having said that, it was of an unissued track and only one other person has it so I'm not gonna complain.
Rich Buckley Posted January 23, 2008 Posted January 23, 2008 Oh dear, I'm shocked and surprised at this. I also bought an acetate. But having said that, it was of an unissued track and only one other person has it so I'm not gonna complain. Me too, same boat Pete. I've got his email address and have emailed him asking him to clarify... Rich
Guest fryer Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Me too, same boat Pete. I've got his email address and have emailed him asking him to clarify... Rich mine was also unissued but it was a fake made to look old, but as i handle stuff like this all the time i knew right away the laquer was new. i suggest anyone who has purchased an acetate from this man check the serial number under the label and contact apollo mastering for a manufacture date here: https://www.apollomasters.com/ when i phoned and explained the situation they were very happy to help and suply me the documentation via email as proof.
Pete S Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 I think Chris told me that some of them were recut when they moved to LA in the early 70's. I might be wrong.
Guest fryer Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 (edited) yes but the acetate manufacture was 2006, with a bubble jet printed label, thats a staight up reproduction sold as original, if you want photos and documents ill post them up Edited January 24, 2008 by fryer
Pete S Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 yes but the acetate manufacture was 2006, with a bubble jet printed label, thats a staight up reproduction sold as original, if you want photos and documents ill post them up Not disputing what you are saying, just telling you my experience.
Prophonics 2029 Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Out of interest, I have just got a record in, posted on the 3rd of Jan recorded delivery from the USA.
Tony Smith Posted January 24, 2008 Author Posted January 24, 2008 Out of interest, I have just got a record in, posted on the 3rd of Jan recorded delivery from the USA. ?From Mangomn?
Mike B Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Oh dear, I'm shocked and surprised at this. I also bought an acetate. But having said that, it was of an unissued track and only one other person has it so I'm not gonna complain. Just out of interest Pete which acetate did you buy? I have had a few off Chris and questioned one, which is the Long After Tonight is All Over backing track on a bell acetate but he said it was 100% Ok - was a bit concerned because the red colour on the top half label was faded more than most bell acetates I have seen. So would be interested to know what you got? Take care mate, Mike
Prophonics 2029 Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 ?From Mangomn? Err! no just from the USA.
Pete S Posted January 25, 2008 Posted January 25, 2008 Just out of interest Pete which acetate did you buy? I have had a few off Chris and questioned one, which is the Long After Tonight is All Over backing track on a bell acetate but he said it was 100% Ok - was a bit concerned because the red colour on the top half label was faded more than most bell acetates I have seen. So would be interested to know what you got? Take care mate, Mike It was Barbara Jean English...Tastes Sour Don't It
Md Records Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 I've heard Carl/Maria Willingham play the instrumental to "Long After Tonight Is All Over" Des Parker
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 I've heard Carl/Maria Willingham play the instrumental to "Long After Tonight Is All Over" Des Parker Did it send everyone to sleep?
Chalky Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 It was Barbara Jean English...Tastes Sour Don't It Sure this it's this that one of the Carlisle lads played at Burnley nighter, opening set couple opf months ago. Made me go up to the decks, very good. You got an MP3 Pete?
pikeys dog Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 was played at Wakefield New Years Eve Chalky....
Chalky Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 was played at Wakefield New Years Eve Chalky.... I heard one at Burnley too, November could be this one or another
pikeys dog Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 I heard one at Burnley too, November could be this one or another be a bummer if he'd sold ten 'one-offs' then done a bunk, wouldn't it?
Chalky Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 be a bummer if he'd sold ten 'one-offs' then done a bunk, wouldn't it? I've just searched Burnley look backs the DJ was Andy from Carlisle and it was a Jimmy Radcliffe (Jimmy being the Artist) acetate I asked about, different one I guess
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Sure this it's this that one of the Carlisle lads played at Burnley nighter, opening set couple opf months ago. Made me go up to the decks, very good. You got an MP3 Pete? I have but I can't let you have the whole thing as I sold it for a lot of money and promised not to copy it!
Chalky Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 I have but I can't let you have the whole thing as I sold it for a lot of money and promised not to copy it! just the clip will do Pete, ta!
Mike B Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 I've heard Carl/Maria Willingham play the instrumental to "Long After Tonight Is All Over" Des Parker Its not the instrumental I have got - its the instrumental backing track and the girl backing singers doing their bit - its what he used to sing over for TV appearances - kind of 60's karaoke lol. Think there are three copies of the Barbara Jean English 'cos I got one of those as well! Cheers Mike
Pete S Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 (edited) Its not the instrumental I have got - its the instrumental backing track and the girl backing singers doing their bit - its what he used to sing over for TV appearances - kind of 60's karaoke lol. Think there are three copies of the Barbara Jean English 'cos I got one of those as well! Cheers Mike You, me and Malcolm Edited January 26, 2008 by Pete S
Lenny Harkins Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 You, me and Malcolm so whats the general consensuss with mangumn, is the plates real or not?
Guest Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 I had some contact with him a couple of years before he joined Soul Source i got the impression from him that he was in possession of a lot of his dad's master tapes. Make of that what you will . He has a production company called BLACK PATCH PRODUCTIONS. Derek
Soulsmith Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Did it send everyone to sleep? See you later. I'm off to bed.
Guest Posted January 26, 2008 Posted January 26, 2008 Just found the business card he sent me when i first had contact with him. Black Patch Productions 14431 Ventura Blvd., #222 Sherman Oaks, CA 91423 (818)252-2904 e-mail : Blackpatchprod@juno.com hope this helps Derek
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