Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Whilst listening to a CD of beat ballads , the thought came to me that two of the first such " genre " records , were Gene McDaniels' " Walk With A Winner " , and Ray Pollard's " The Drifter " , which have been around since adam was a lad ....... What I would like to know is , what was the first accepted and recognised " beat ballad " of the " New Era " of / for NS ..... Malc Burton
Guest moggy Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Malc Would have to add George Kirby to your original two nominations & I may be miles out on what era etc you are reffering to But what about George Freeman : Down & Out or Chuck Jackson : Whats with this loneliness Just trying to get the thread rolling
Guest moggy Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Or Could it have been Sam Fletcher : Id think it over
Harry Crosby Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 FRANK DELL-HE BROKE YOUR GAME WIDE OPEN TOMMY NAVARO-CRIED MY LIFE AWAY
Guest moggy Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 FRANK DELL-HE BROKE YOUR GAME WIDE OPEN TOMMY NAVARO-CRIED MY LIFE AWAY Harry, great record, but maybe a tadd too fast
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 You wont go far wrong with TOMMY COLLINS-I WANT TO THANK YOU-VERVE an absolutely beautiful ballad luv Di xx
MarkWhiteley Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Whilst listening to a CD of beat ballads , the thought came to me that two of the first such " genre " records , were Gene McDaniels' " Walk With A Winner " , and Ray Pollard's " The Drifter " , which have been around since adam was a lad ....... What I would like to know is , what was the first accepted and recognised " beat ballad " of the " New Era " of / for NS ..... Malc Burton Malc, how about Gil Bernal - 'Poor Boy', Early Big Beater For Richard Searling, Wigan floor clearer on first plays from memory Best M. Gil_Poor_Boy.MP3
MarkWhiteley Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Think Im getting there will try an upload Edited January 16, 2008 by MarkWhiteley
John Parker Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Suppose not really new era but I always thought Paris Blues really broke the mould at the time it was being played Loved it then and still do
Wilxy Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Johhnnie Mae Matthews-I have no choice ......new era?
Steve G Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Malc, how about Gil Bernal - 'Poor Boy', Early Big Beater For Richard Searling, Wigan floor clearer on first plays from memory Who was it covered up as?
Lamont Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Who was it covered up as? Always thought it was Big Dee Irwin "You Satisfy My Needs" Re Beat Ballad CD's there are far few about for me, "Beat Ballad Heaven", "Beat Ballad Bliss Vol 1 & 2", "Beat Ballad Salad", anybody know of anymore Big Beat only Cd's or Cd's with these tracks on (other then the obvious?)
Bully Boy Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Always thought it was Big Dee Irwin "You Satisfy My Needs" Re Beat Ballad CD's there are far few about for me, "Beat Ballad Heaven", "Beat Ballad Bliss Vol 1 & 2", "Beat Ballad Salad", anybody know of anymore Big Beat only Cd's or Cd's with these tracks on (other then the obvious?) Thread In Media done last weekend about Beat ballads, with quite a few tunes on ther to listen to? Bully! Edited January 20, 2008 by Bully Boy
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Always thought it was Big Dee Irwin "You Satisfy My Needs" Re Beat Ballad CD's there are far few about for me, "Beat Ballad Heaven", "Beat Ballad Bliss Vol 1 & 2", "Beat Ballad Salad", anybody know of anymore Big Beat only Cd's or Cd's with these tracks on (other then the obvious?) With regard to my original posting , I possibly should have worded it better ........ What I meant to state in respect of the first beat ballad to gain recognition in the " new era " of the NS scene , I should have posed the question " what was the first real " biggie " of the genre to gain dancefloor acceptance in the new era of the NS scene " ....... The " new era " I am referring to , is the latter days of WC with discs played by RS , and at Stafford by The Jolly Boys ....... Apologies ; I put it down to being half awake when I posted this morning ..... Malc Burton Edited January 16, 2008 by Malc Burton
Chalky Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 You wont go far wrong with TOMMY COLLINS-I WANT TO THANK YOU-VERVE an absolutely beautiful ballad luv Di xx Magic record, was covered up by Guy. Half these mentioned on here bit quick for beat ballads.
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Suppose not really new era but I always thought Paris Blues really broke the mould at the time it was being played Loved it then and still do "PARIS BLUES" Yes it did break the mould, I was the very first to play this 45 in the UK, the last record of my spot at Cleethorpes Winter Gardens I decided to play it because it was wanted at the time by a top Belgium collector as one of his top-wants, and i liked it. Nobody danced for weeks, then bam! it was a monster. It then became "fashionable" to play down-beat records as you last play. I also did the same thing with Arin Demain (then a one-off), to the same response. I personally love beat-ballads, anyone ever heard the flipside of Charles Brandy - Can't get enough - WITHOUT YOUR LOVE - now that for me is this finest of them all.
Ian Dewhirst Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) "PARIS BLUES" Yes it did break the mould, I was the very first to play this 45 in the UK, the last record of my spot at Cleethorpes Winter Gardens I decided to play it because it was wanted at the time by a top Belgium collector as one of his top-wants, and i liked it. Nobody danced for weeks, then bam! it was a monster. It then became "fashionable" to play down-beat records as you last play. I also did the same thing with Arin Demain (then a one-off), to the same response. I personally love beat-ballads, anyone ever heard the flipside of Charles Brandy - Can't get enough - WITHOUT YOUR LOVE - now that for me is this finest of them all. Are you sure Johnny - I could have sworn this was a Mecca spin first. I seem to remember this being a Levine find which caused a bit of controversy @ the Mecca when he came back from a U.S. trip 'cos it was such an old-time beater...... Brilliant record nonetheless. Ian D Edited January 16, 2008 by Ian Dewhirst
Guest Trevski Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Romance Watson "Where does that leave me"
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Are you sure Johnny - I could have sworn this was a Mecca spin first. I seem to remember this being a Levine find which caused a bit of controversy @ the Mecca when he came back from a U.S. trip 'cos it was such an old-time beater...... Brilliant record nonetheless. Ian D Frank, Your heads gone and your memory with it.. no, it was me and everyone hated the 45. Robert Van De Hove was the Belgium guy who wanted the 45, if I remember correctly, anything Ian Levine had previously played I would have had no problem getting the crowd to dance to it. It took weeks and weeks to get any reaction to "Paris Blues" likewise with "Arin Demain" At the time by the way Levine was playing "disco" and apparently "The Four Vandals". "Paris Blues" was never his style... not disco'y enough. You got that thing, Norman Wisdom is gettin'? I don't think either of us are in the real-world, I just thought I heard Kevin Keegan got the Newcastle United job.... John
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Magic record, was covered up by Guy. Half these mentioned on here bit quick for beat ballads. Hi chalky i had this as my weddin song ahhhhh can you tell me what it was coverd up as or IF YOU TELL ME WILL YOU THEN HAVE TO KILL ME luv Di x
Soul Shrews Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Half these mentioned on here bit quick for beat ballads. Was thinking that myself. How about Jerry Butler "You Make Me Feel Like Someone" or even Eloise Laws's version Cheers Paul
Chalky Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Hi chalky i had this as my weddin song ahhhhh can you tell me what it was coverd up as or IF YOU TELL ME WILL YOU THEN HAVE TO KILL ME luv Di x Of course I can....Jesse Herring And The Tru Glo's - Thank You!
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 "PARIS BLUES" Yes it did break the mould, I was the very first to play this 45 in the UK, the last record of my spot at Cleethorpes Winter Gardens I decided to play it because it was wanted at the time by a top Belgium collector as one of his top-wants, and i liked it. Nobody danced for weeks, then bam! it was a monster. It then became "fashionable" to play down-beat records as you last play. I also did the same thing with Arin Demain (then a one-off), to the same response. I personally love beat-ballads, anyone ever heard the flipside of Charles Brandy - Can't get enough - WITHOUT YOUR LOVE - now that for me is this finest of them all. Hi John Have you got a sound clip of Charles Brandy. Barry Cooper
Nickinstoke Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Was thinking that myself. How about Jerry Butler "You Make Me Feel Like Someone" or even Eloise Laws's version Cheers Paul Johnny Gilliam's version of YMMFLS (on the flip of "Baby take me back") is stunning
Soul Shrews Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Johnny Gilliam's version of YMMFLS (on the flip of "Baby take me back") is stunning Not heard that version "nickinstoke" but love Mr Gilliam's voice, any chance of a listen ? Cheers Paul
Guest Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Hi John Have you got a sound clip of Charles Brandy. Barry Cooper i shall be playing at Grantham on Friday and that hotel in Manchester on Saturday....BOTH sides are on R-O-T-R here a link to sound and scan. They are at the borttom on the page: https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/rarest-of-the-rare/12
Guest Rich Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Whilst listening to a CD of beat ballads , the thought came to me that two of the first such " genre " records , were Gene McDaniels' " Walk With A Winner " , and Ray Pollard's " The Drifter " , which have been around since adam was a lad ....... What I would like to know is , what was the first accepted and recognised " beat ballad " of the " New Era " of / for NS ..... Malc Burton first one that hit me between the eyes - and got me into the more slower stuff - was 'Tomorrow is another day' by Gene Stridel when the late Nev Wherry (I think, could be wrong, many a fish has passed under the bridge since then) finished a night at Inkersall Green many moons ago
soulfulmick Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 How about Arthur Alexander I Need You Baby for me one of the best ballads ever
Guest vinylvixen Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) How about Arthur Alexander I Need You Baby for me one of the best ballads ever Played at Randy's funeral - I will always associate AA with Randy. For me, it's Hal Miller 'Blessing in Disguise'. Alan H used to play this at Capitol - just melted my heart, turned my legs to jelly and made me come over all unneccesary....and that was just Alan Edited January 17, 2008 by vinylvixen
Pete S Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Paris Blues is a great record but it's not a beat ballad, it's a fully fledged stomper and it's not even that slow.
Eddie Hubbard Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Not heard that version "nickinstoke" but love Mr Gilliam's voice, any chance of a listen ? Cheers Paul Hello Paul The Babies version of " You make me feel ..... " is also great , flip of " Hand of fate " on Dunhill , and old recommendation by Kipper !! Best ,Eddie
Eddie Hubbard Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Two really great early one's for the scene were Derek Martin " You better go " and Jerry Jackson " It's rough out there " .New breed wise how about Guy spinning " Somebody help me " Donald Jenkins at Stafford ? Best ,Eddie
Peter99 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 It then became "fashionable" to play down-beat records as you last play. I also did the same thing with Arin Demain (then a one-off), to the same response. I personally love beat-ballads, anyone ever heard the flipside of Charles Brandy - Can't get enough - WITHOUT YOUR LOVE - now that for me is this finest of them all. Hi John Always loved the Arin Demain track - didn't know you were the first to play it. Where and when did you do the deed? Thanks Peter
Ady Croasdell Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Always thought it was Big Dee Irwin "You Satisfy My Needs" Re Beat Ballad CD's there are far few about for me, "Beat Ballad Heaven", "Beat Ballad Bliss Vol 1 & 2", "Beat Ballad Salad", anybody know of anymore Big Beat only Cd's or Cd's with these tracks on (other then the obvious?) New York Soul Serenade on Kent is a good one.
Ady Croasdell Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 The 100 Club was probably associated with Beat Ballads as much as anyone and the one that got me on that track was Tommy Navarro, I think Guy played the first and I had the second. After that there were a lot but Johnny Maestro, Kurt Harris, Chuck's Loneliness and Millionaire, Annabelle Fox, Trends Not Too Old To Cry, were the big ones for me down there.
Steve Edgar Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 New York Soul Serenade on Kent is a good one. Fantastic compilation that one Ady. Every home should have a copy imo. First place I got to hear Judy Clay's "Havent Got What It Takes".... still tryin to find a copy of that track steve
Tony Smith Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Does Tommy Navarro count as a beat ballad? a lot of records mentioned are Stafford era mid-tempo rather than beat ballads. Sam Fletcher definately one of the first real biggies for the mafia, that was accepted widely. Faye Crawford "What Have I Done" RCA not forgetting the old Randy faves Jerry Ganey "Just a Fool" Verve and Brooks O'dell "You Better Make Up Your Mind"-Bell
Modernsoulsucks Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 No idea on individual titles cos a lot go back to beginning of scene anyway but first spot I noticed that featured a lot of downtempo stuff that I thought was different, and have to admit it didn't like much at first ,was Roger Banks. ROD
Ian Dewhirst Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Frank, Your heads gone and your memory with it.. no, it was me and everyone hated the 45. Robert Van De Hove was the Belgium guy who wanted the 45, if I remember correctly, anything Ian Levine had previously played I would have had no problem getting the crowd to dance to it. It took weeks and weeks to get any reaction to "Paris Blues" likewise with "Arin Demain" At the time by the way Levine was playing "disco" and apparently "The Four Vandals". "Paris Blues" was never his style... not disco'y enough. You got that thing, Norman Wisdom is gettin'? I don't think either of us are in the real-world, I just thought I heard Kevin Keegan got the Newcastle United job.... John Ha Ha Lol. Well I guess anything's possible but when I recently did the 4 CD series for Sony-BMG I had to re-research the whole period and I've definitely got it down as a Mecca play - I can remember Brad @ Burnley Cricket Club raving about it on the Tuesday after Saturday @ the Mecca. At that time the Mecca were still playing stormers - this was almost pre Levine's Disco phase. In fact I ran my sleeve notes past both Colin and Ian and they OK'd 'em......... 5. "Paris Blues" (2.13) - Tony Middleton Original U.S. Label: Mala 544 An Ian Levine discovery circa 1974, "Paris Blues" was almost a throwback to the early Wheel style of Northern Soul with Tony's melodramatic vocals and the clunky 60's production. However, dated or not, the sheer atmosphere of the song makes this an absolute Mecca classic. Produced with panache by early Beatles associate Claus Ogerman. I don't think my memories playing up that much LOL..... Best, Ian D
Ian Dewhirst Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 And look at the track before it on the CD...... 4. "Ever Again" (2.34) - Bernie Williams Original U.S. Label: Bell 768 A complete one-off when Colin Curtis first aired this as a 'last hour' record at the Mecca circa 1974, "Ever Again" become one of the first records to be involved in a megabucks bidding war between myself and Johnny Manship with Johnny eventually winning the battle unfortunately. Whilst sounding as if it was recorded in New Orleans, it was actually a Philadelphia recording. Now I remember that all too well LOL! Best, Ian D
Guest nusha Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Tony Clark-The Entertainer/Jimmy Beaumont-Both sides of the London 45/Doris Troy-Whatcha Gonna Do About it..Jimmy Radcliffe- Long After...The Drifters-The Outside World/On Broadway+In The Land Of Make believe.The Ojays-Im Gonna Make It..Barbara Lewis-Hello Stranger,Artistics-Im Gonna Miss You........The Twisted Wheel Rules
bri phill Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Ha Ha Lol. Well I guess anything's possible but when I recently did the 4 CD series for Sony-BMG I had to re-research the whole period and I've definitely got it down as a Mecca play - I can remember Brad @ Burnley Cricket Club raving about it on the Tuesday after Saturday @ the Mecca. At that time the Mecca were still playing stormers - this was almost pre Levine's Disco phase. In fact I ran my sleeve notes past both Colin and Ian and they OK'd 'em......... 5. "Paris Blues" (2.13) - Tony Middleton Original U.S. Label: Mala 544 An Ian Levine discovery circa 1974, "Paris Blues" was almost a throwback to the early Wheel style of Northern Soul with Tony's melodramatic vocals and the clunky 60's production. However, dated or not, the sheer atmosphere of the song makes this an absolute Mecca classic. Produced with panache by early Beatles associate Claus Ogerman. I don't think my memories playing up that much LOL..... Best, Ian D Great to see you old gets arguing and really great to see you still involved in a big way you deserve it full respect.Are you big in Albania like Norman Wisdom you're both following him. How about This is the thanks I get,I'm loosing you -Barbara Lyn , Since I found the one I love -The Impresions,The Drifter and a lot more I use to play last half hour at the Wheel. best regard Brian
Ady Croasdell Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Does Tommy Navarro count as a beat ballad? a lot of records mentioned are Stafford era mid-tempo rather than beat ballads. I always thought it was the epitome of it, admittedly it has a good dance beat but I think that's the point. I remember thinking "Great you can play this style of record now and it won't clear the floor". It's that NYC slightly Latin feel a la Drifters and Ben E King that it has. Faye Crawford is more of a pure ballad which I also loved and was refreshing to hear out. Rod's right about Roger Banks he went for it big time and must have launched quite a few on the scene. Guy put them in as occasional spins but Roger probably played a full hour some nights!
Guest Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Another of my faves is Garnett mimms-it was easier to hurt her WHAT A VOICE xxxx
Guest Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) And look at the track before it on the CD...... 4. "Ever Again" (2.34) - Bernie Williams Original U.S. Label: Bell 768 A complete one-off when Colin Curtis first aired this as a 'last hour' record at the Mecca circa 1974, "Ever Again" become one of the first records to be involved in a megabucks bidding war between myself and Johnny Manship with Johnny eventually winning the battle unfortunately. Whilst sounding as if it was recorded in New Orleans, it was actually a Philadelphia recording. Now I remember that all too well LOL! Best, Ian D Sorry Frank, you've totally got all your years upside down, wrong way round, and who played what, or when is all over the place Sorry to say your are so wrong: Firstly Colin Curtis obtained "Ever Again" from me at the "The Ritz" All Dayer when Tavares were live! that day circa 1976-ish? I swapped it for a new discovery "Andre Gagnon - Wow" one of my fabulously stupid deals, the same day I let Ian Levine have "Cheatin ' Kind" for £3.00 another shrewd move. Neil Rushton is witness to all this in case you can't believe anyone could be so stupid. If I remember correctly "Ever Again" was a four copy John Anderson find which most copies where snapped up by Cleethorpes DJs. Where the hell you got 1974 and the Mecca for "Paris Blues" is beyond me. This was not a Northern Soul play @ that time but was on many Belgium "popcorn" wants lists @ the time. I acquire a copy from the amazing stock of Al Pavlo in 1976 to sell to Robert Van De Hove of Gent. Paris Blues was after the Pier period, it was a Winter Gardens spin, and it was my "last Record" cause I knew nobody would dance to it. At the time the "Levine Must Go" campaign was on and Levine was upsetting Sam by playing he own made music, disco & 70s. As for this fairy-tale-land about "Paris Blues" being ideal Mecca fodder, I was a regular in '74, it certainly was not ideal Mecca spin and I'd never heard of the record until Robert De Hove turned me on to it. You can't "disappear" for two decades then come back and dictate history as you remember it. As far as I'm concerned it was my last record to any empty floor..and I certainly was not emulating Levine or anything he played at the time. Maybe botox affects the memory, maybe I'm totally and absolutely wrong, maybe Levine played Arin Demain in the same set as "Four Vandals" and maybe "Larry Clinton" was first played by Richard Searling and not Soul Sam. Please do not try and tell me what I was playing and when and what was "new" and what was. I was rather proud of the fact that "Paris Blues" actually "took off" and is now a classic now your saying Ian Levine was playing it before... I'm mortified Between you and the Top 500 book Northern Soul history will be re-written and I won't be in it.... Please let me have "The Paris Blues" kudos... I think this went on with Charles Darwin and his mates, on who found what monkey first.. didn't it? PS the bidding war record you mentioned was "Prince George - "The Wrong Crowd" which was of course a Colin Curtis & Blackpool Mecca exclusive at the time. Edited January 18, 2008 by john manship
bri phill Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Great to see you old gets arguing and really great to see you still involved in a big way you deserve it full respect.Are you big in Albania like Norman Wisdom you're both following him. How about This is the thanks I get,I'm loosing you -Barbara Lyn , Since I found the one I love -The Impresions,The Drifter and a lot more I use to play last half hour at the Wheel. best regard Brian Meant lost not found on the impressions track, also a few more I can't work no longer- Billy Butler,I'll keep on trying-Walter Jackson,Poverty amd Your worth it all-Bobby Bland played at the same time. regard Brian
Guest Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Ha Ha Lol. Well I guess anything's possible but when I recently did the 4 CD series for Sony-BMG I had to re-research the whole period and I've definitely got it down as a Mecca play - I can remember Brad @ Burnley Cricket Club raving about it on the Tuesday after Saturday @ the Mecca. At that time the Mecca were still playing stormers - this was almost pre Levine's Disco phase. In fact I ran my sleeve notes past both Colin and Ian and they OK'd 'em......... 5. "Paris Blues" (2.13) - Tony Middleton Original U.S. Label: Mala 544 An Ian Levine discovery circa 1974, "Paris Blues" was almost a throwback to the early Wheel style of Northern Soul with Tony's melodramatic vocals and the clunky 60's production. However, dated or not, the sheer atmosphere of the song makes this an absolute Mecca classic. Produced with panache by early Beatles associate Claus Ogerman. I don't think my memories playing up that much LOL..... Best, Ian D Are you sure about this , Young Foggy ? ........ I was a regular at The Mecca at the time you state the record was played , but I cannot remember - I know at my age my memory is not what it was - IL bringing this to our attention , as one of his " discoveries " ....... Your recall , I am sad to say my dear chap , appears to be clouded by too many years living " darn sarf " ....... Malc Burton
Peter99 Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Sorry Frank, you've totally got all your years upside down, wrong way round, and who played what, or when is all over the place Sorry to say your are so wrong: Firstly Colin Curtis obtained "Ever Again" from me at the "The Ritz" All Dayer when Tavares were live! that day circa 1976-ish? I swapped it for a new discovery "Andre Gagnon - Wow" one of my fabulously stupid deals, the same day I let Ian Levine have "Cheatin ' Kind" for £3.00 another shrewd move. Neil Rushton is witness to all this in case you can't believe anyone could be so stupid. If I remember correctly "Ever Again" was a four copy John Anderson find which most copies where snapped up by Cleethorpes DJs. Where the hell you got 1974 and the Mecca for "Paris Blues" is beyond me. This was not a Northern Soul play @ that time but was on many Belgium "popcorn" wants lists @ the time. I acquire a copy from the amazing stock of Al Pavlo in 1976 to sell to Robert Van De Hove of Gent. Paris Blues was after the Pier period, it was a Winter Gardens spin, and it was my "last Record" cause I knew nobody would dance to it. At the time the "Levine Must Go" campaign was on and Levine was upsetting Sam by playing he own made music, disco & 70s. As for this fairy-tale-land about "Paris Blues" being ideal Mecca fodder, I was a regular in '74, it certainly was not ideal Mecca spin and I'd never heard of the record until Robert De Hove turned me on to it. You can't "disappear" for two decades then come back and dictate history as you remember it. As far as I'm concerned it was my last record to any empty floor..and I certainly was not emulating Levine or anything he played at the time. Maybe botox affects the memory, maybe I'm totally and absolutely wrong, maybe Levine played Arin Demain in the same set as "Four Vandals" and maybe "Larry Clinton" was first played by Richard Searling and not Soul Sam. Please do not try and tell me what I was playing and when and what was "new" and what was. I was rather proud of the fact that "Paris Blues" actually "took off" and is now a classic now your saying Ian Levine was playing it before... I'm mortified Between you and the Top 500 book Northern Soul history will be re-written and I won't be in it.... Please let me have "The Paris Blues" kudos... I think this went on with Charles Darwin and his mates, on who found what monkey first.. didn't it? PS the bidding war record you mentioned was "Prince George - "The Wrong Crowd" which was of course a Colin Curtis & Blackpool Mecca exclusive at the time. You seem pretty clear on your history John - so out of interest just when you first play Arin Demain? Or don't you want to tell!
Geoff Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Tony Clark-The Entertainer/Jimmy Beaumont-Both sides of the London 45/Doris Troy-Whatcha Gonna Do About it..Jimmy Radcliffe- Long After...The Drifters-The Outside World/On Broadway+In The Land Of Make believe.The Ojays-Im Gonna Make It..Barbara Lewis-Hello Stranger,Artistics-Im Gonna Miss You........The Twisted Wheel Rules When were they played at the Twisted Wheel? Several of them were played in London Mod clubs at the time of issue, 64 onwards. As far as I remember Jimmy Radcliffe was the last record played at the Royal ballroom, Tottenham, on Thursday nights, reckoned to be the best night. I adore the beat ballad style, so emotional. How about Prince Harold's Forget About Me? Hadn't heard that since 66 or 67 till a nice person did me a CD with it on. Others that spring to mind as I type this are Lenny Welch's Run To My Loving Arms and Little Anthony & The Imperials' Lost Without You. Both covered by Billy Fury in the UK and were hits. I've got a CD of Little Anthony made up of 2 of his LPs, Goin' Out Of My Head/Payin' Our Dues, got lots of beat ballads on it. And funnily enough, just received the Dreamlovers' You Gave Me Somebody To Love this morning. Pure bliss. Going to the triple birthday bash in Letchworth, and then Boomerang tomorrow, any DJs reading this please play a beat ballad or 2 for me please.
Steve G Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 When were they played at the Twisted Wheel? Several of them were played in London Mod clubs at the time of issue, 64 onwards. As far as I remember Jimmy Radcliffe was the last record played at the Royal ballroom, Tottenham, on Thursday nights, reckoned to be the best night. I adore the beat ballad style, so emotional. How about Prince Harold's Forget About Me? Hadn't heard that since 66 or 67 till a nice person did me a CD with it on. Others that spring to mind as I type this are Lenny Welch's Run To My Loving Arms and Little Anthony & The Imperials' Lost Without You. Both covered by Billy Fury in the UK and were hits. I've got a CD of Little Anthony made up of 2 of his LPs, Goin' Out Of My Head/Payin' Our Dues, got lots of beat ballads on it. And funnily enough, just received the Dreamlovers' You Gave Me Somebody To Love this morning. Pure bliss. Going to the triple birthday bash in Letchworth, and then Boomerang tomorrow, any DJs reading this please play a beat ballad or 2 for me please. Geoff you got so much knowledge in your head about that London scene in the 60s, you ever thought about writing about it? I find the fact that Jimmy Radcliffe was played as a new release in Tottenham on Thursday nights amazing! Perhaps I shouldn't find it amazing, but you should write an article or two about it all, it would be a fascinating read and serve as a more accurate reflection of what the scene was actually like "before northern was invented" than the garbage I read and hear regularly from talking heads that weren't even a twinkle in their father's eye in the mid 60s. GO FOR IT Kiddo!
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